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What exactly do you think you are going to prove?

Published July 22nd, 2011 by Bobby Henderson

What exactly do you think you are going to prove? it’s just disrespectful to other human beings faiths and beliefs, and im sure u of all people should know u can’t put any sense into say a devout christian. Honestly, what your doing is the equivalant of making a rude, sarcastic joke to a child that doesn’t understand humor. u cant tell a christian thats been raised from birth to believe that there’s a magic man in the clouds that he’s wrong. you’ll just get what uve been getting, hate mail, and death threats. God is the equivalant of santa exept the child is never told he isn’t real until it’s to late. and u think your doing a good thing by making up this pastafarian crap to prove how absurd the idea of god is. what i don’t think u understand is that u cant argue with idiots about this stuff as most christians are dont know a thing about science.(I apoligize to all respectable christian scientists). as an athiest, im disgusted what youre doing. like making fun of christians being killed by somali’s, and u quoting, "apparently they thought there god could give them safe passage"(yes ive read ur website). really, did it ever, or does it ever occur to you that these people are actually human being’s with family’s and feeling’s, and just because they think the world was created  differantly than u, u have to mock them… that’s kind of a dick move. your being no better than they are(religious people) by making fun of and disrespecting other people just ’cause they think differantly than u. oh wait u are religous, u worship a flying spaggetti monster. which means i have the right to ridicule u on how stupid your dumbfuck religion is(oh may the great pasta diety forgive me for my sin) and dont deny that u worship the all mighty pasta king, because your the leader of the church. with the true words of your religion written on a piece of paper. it’s ironic that u, by trying to prove how bad religion is. go about it by u yourself inbodying everything that is wrong with human beliefs. u are everything that is wrong with athiesm. u go around acting all superior and pompus, like u know better than everyone else and tell them why there wrong mockingly. the world would be a better place if u took all your "followers" (butt pirates) got on a pirate ship and ate spaggetti until you all died of overeating.have u ever heard the term live and let live? and i love it how  u post all the hate mail u get on a your page to be ridiculed by your cronies( who by the way need to get of the internet and do something productive)yes we all the the bible huggars are gonna say dumb stuff because they’re uneducated. but that doesn’t mean u have to be immature and make fun of there faults so just lay off. even though this message sounds hostile just know i agree with what your’e trying to do (i think) educating people, i just wholly disagree with how u are going about it.

-David

A short response from Bobby:

It’s not our intention to mock or offend anyone. But I realize people sometimes feel mocked  or offended.

It might be fair to say that we’re disrespectful.  I would agree that most Pastafarians don’t respect the notion that religion should sit on a pedestal.  We don’t think that because an action is explained in the context of religion it is exempt from the scrutiny it otherwise would have been subjected to.  Religion is not a free pass for crazy ideas and crazy actions. 

I would agree that it’s not our place to pass judgment on those who see the world through a lens of religion.  But neither is it our place to ignore when personal belief becomes public action.  We can accept that some choose to teach their kids the earth is 6000 years old and that dinosaurs are a myth.  But if they push for those ideas to be taught in our schools, it’s no longer a question of respecting personal belief.

The idea that rational minded people must be anti-religion is a wrong one, I think.   If we must draw a line to divide ourselves, I’d prefer the line be positioned between reasonable and unreasonable people, rather than religious and non-religious people.  

It’s one thing to see the world through a lens, and another thing to act as if it’s the only lens that can exist.

I believe there is no group more tolerant of other religious and nonreligious groups than Pastafarians, without question.  The death of the Christian sailors by pirates was a sad thing for everyone who heard of it, I’m sure.  My hope is that it doesn’t happen again.  The hard question is:  will criticizing the decision to venture into dangerous areas on the basis of faith help avoid a similar situation in the future?  I don’t know the answer.  But I wonder how many of their friends and family wish they had shaken them and said this is a bad idea, don’t do this.  This is one of the hard questions – this line between respect and concern. 



962 Responses to “What exactly do you think you are going to prove?”

  1. Cap'n Grey Beard says:

    I just reread the original post. I find it astounding that people whio start out sounding rational quickly lose it.

    Suddenly it’s all “don’t mock them, educate them”. Like we haven’t tried that. Then he calls us a @dumb fuck religion” but cannot see that we claim to be no more than every other dumb fuck religion.

    These people are the barrier. To bastardise a quoted wisdom; these are the people who do nothing and thereby let evil reign.

    RCGB

    • Rasputin says:

      Hey Cap’n GB, to quote Ten Bears from “The Outlaw Josey Wales”: “There is iron in your words”.

    • Maureen says:

      People who want to preach should use a spell-checker and learn basic grammar. But as he is probably an American I’ll make allowances….Just don’t get me started on syntax!

      • Fat Bastard says:

        Maureen, since the demise of the worker’s unions, I believe that a large group of Americans now finds a perverse sense of solidarity by bonding through shared ignorance. Bad spelling, syntax and grammar is simply a badge that this group proudly wears, as well as a covert insult. I suspect these correlate with evangelists.

  2. Gnocchi St.Pudding says:

    Dear SillyKiwiMan, I say CONGRATULATIONS to you Kiwis! You are the greatest Rugby playing nation on the globe. Well done, guys. Fantastic. Amazing.

    • SillyKiwiMan says:

      Thanks GSP, I’d like to see two official religions in my home country, Pastafarianism as well as Rugby Union.

      • Rasputin says:

        For the assistance of Americans: Rugby is similar to American Football but without the padding and helmets.

        • James 000 says:

          Also… it requires that the players are physically fit as opposed to bulldozer-built.

          Ramen

  3. Pastadamus says:

    “yes we all the the bible huggars are gonna say dumb stuff because they’re uneducated.”

    What’s this? A secret code, possibly?

  4. James 000 says:

    Us guyz whom foller the FSM peer to half the type to be stuk on the spellung and gram-err stuff. Like y r we lik dat

    Edit:
    We followers of the FSM seem to have a penchant for correct grammar and spelling. Who was it that said “he is lacking in creativity who thinks there is only one way to spell a word” ?

    • Captain Birdseye says:

      It was a ‘mercan without a dictionary who said it.

  5. Larry says:

    To David,

    Are you one of those people who wants to kill everyone who is not part of their religion? I think there was someone like that in history that reminds me of you (Adolf Hitler)

  6. Fuffles the Frying Pan says:

    Wow. So many grammatical and spelling errors; just delete this, retake first grade, and try again.

  7. mad william bonny says:

    Arrrrgh, Excelsiors words caused an epiphany last night….or maybe it was the beer……or both! They have built a great big boat in Kentucky. Hundreds of miles from the nearest sea. Landlubbers stupidity? or a Divine Noodly Prophecy about global warming. I believe the latter.

    It should be a point of pilgrimmage for Pastafarians, dressed in your finest pirate regalia, to visit this shrine. Proclaim it’s importance to the Pastafarian religion and leave offerings to the noodly one….chocolate dubloons.

    I plan to make this pilgrimmage this year and encourage all pastafarians to make the trek. How glorious it could be to have a hundred, nay a thousand pirates in one day among the non- believers. Could someone set up a beer bust after?

    Ramen

    • Captain Birdseye says:

      MWB, I hope to hear that you took the ship and made Ken Ham walk the plank.

    • theFewtheProudtheMarinara says:

      There is a brilliant idea here. What if dozens of us showed up on Talk Like a Pirate Day in full regalia at the Ark Museum? Personally I’d like to ask the guide a few questions. OK, a HUNDRED questions. Like if Yahweh disliked 99.99% of the human race so much, why did he wait 900 years to kill their great-to-the-40th-power grandchildren?

  8. Saint Gnocchi says:

    Hello there,

    Im in an area that does not have great internet connection
    Long live the Spaggetti Monster

    • Rasputin says:

      Hey St. G, you can still eat pasta, drink beer and fornicate in His name.

    • Keith says:

      Still great to hear from you, ST. G!

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