What exactly do you think you are going to prove?

Published July 22nd, 2011 by Bobby Henderson

What exactly do you think you are going to prove? it’s just disrespectful to other human beings faiths and beliefs, and im sure u of all people should know u can’t put any sense into say a devout christian. Honestly, what your doing is the equivalant of making a rude, sarcastic joke to a child that doesn’t understand humor. u cant tell a christian thats been raised from birth to believe that there’s a magic man in the clouds that he’s wrong. you’ll just get what uve been getting, hate mail, and death threats. God is the equivalant of santa exept the child is never told he isn’t real until it’s to late. and u think your doing a good thing by making up this pastafarian crap to prove how absurd the idea of god is. what i don’t think u understand is that u cant argue with idiots about this stuff as most christians are dont know a thing about science.(I apoligize to all respectable christian scientists). as an athiest, im disgusted what youre doing. like making fun of christians being killed by somali’s, and u quoting, "apparently they thought there god could give them safe passage"(yes ive read ur website). really, did it ever, or does it ever occur to you that these people are actually human being’s with family’s and feeling’s, and just because they think the world was created  differantly than u, u have to mock them… that’s kind of a dick move. your being no better than they are(religious people) by making fun of and disrespecting other people just ’cause they think differantly than u. oh wait u are religous, u worship a flying spaggetti monster. which means i have the right to ridicule u on how stupid your dumbfuck religion is(oh may the great pasta diety forgive me for my sin) and dont deny that u worship the all mighty pasta king, because your the leader of the church. with the true words of your religion written on a piece of paper. it’s ironic that u, by trying to prove how bad religion is. go about it by u yourself inbodying everything that is wrong with human beliefs. u are everything that is wrong with athiesm. u go around acting all superior and pompus, like u know better than everyone else and tell them why there wrong mockingly. the world would be a better place if u took all your "followers" (butt pirates) got on a pirate ship and ate spaggetti until you all died of overeating.have u ever heard the term live and let live? and i love it how  u post all the hate mail u get on a your page to be ridiculed by your cronies( who by the way need to get of the internet and do something productive)yes we all the the bible huggars are gonna say dumb stuff because they’re uneducated. but that doesn’t mean u have to be immature and make fun of there faults so just lay off. even though this message sounds hostile just know i agree with what your’e trying to do (i think) educating people, i just wholly disagree with how u are going about it.


A short response from Bobby:

It’s not our intention to mock or offend anyone. But I realize people sometimes feel mocked  or offended.

It might be fair to say that we’re disrespectful.  I would agree that most Pastafarians don’t respect the notion that religion should sit on a pedestal.  We don’t think that because an action is explained in the context of religion it is exempt from the scrutiny it otherwise would have been subjected to.  Religion is not a free pass for crazy ideas and crazy actions. 

I would agree that it’s not our place to pass judgment on those who see the world through a lens of religion.  But neither is it our place to ignore when personal belief becomes public action.  We can accept that some choose to teach their kids the earth is 6000 years old and that dinosaurs are a myth.  But if they push for those ideas to be taught in our schools, it’s no longer a question of respecting personal belief.

The idea that rational minded people must be anti-religion is a wrong one, I think.   If we must draw a line to divide ourselves, I’d prefer the line be positioned between reasonable and unreasonable people, rather than religious and non-religious people.  

It’s one thing to see the world through a lens, and another thing to act as if it’s the only lens that can exist.

I believe there is no group more tolerant of other religious and nonreligious groups than Pastafarians, without question.  The death of the Christian sailors by pirates was a sad thing for everyone who heard of it, I’m sure.  My hope is that it doesn’t happen again.  The hard question is:  will criticizing the decision to venture into dangerous areas on the basis of faith help avoid a similar situation in the future?  I don’t know the answer.  But I wonder how many of their friends and family wish they had shaken them and said this is a bad idea, don’t do this.  This is one of the hard questions – this line between respect and concern. 

965 Responses to “What exactly do you think you are going to prove?”

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  1. kipton says:

    why can’t you learn how to spell out a three letter word instead of using one letter to represent that word. May the FSM forgive me for saying this but you are a slack-jawed slattern who doesn’t understand the world around you and therefore you feel the need to attack the beliefs of a secure group of people. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    • kipton says:

      For the love of FSM, take a damn grammar class.

      • nun sequitur says:

        Well KIPTON mayb i will abide by ur wishes & take a ‘grammar’ class when u obtain some class & stop bashing, or take a class urself in empathy or compassion…sometimes i think my having been abused is a better lesson than anything else, which is not to advocate abuse, but 2 point out there r things 2 b learned if u manage 2 let it happen.

        • nun sequitur says:

          & it wouldnt matter, if i overheard u talking 2 some1 else this way, id say the same thing 2 u. ..b aware not every1 has access 2 ur level of educatedness, or have things hampering communic8n beyond immediate control…i could learn 2 use smaller words instead of just trunc8ng some smaller 1s, but it further interrupts thinking…not sure this speaks 4 every1 doing this, but just some insight..as if u care.

    • nun sequitur says:

      Y cant i ‘learn’ 2 spell out a 3 letter word, instead of..asks KIPTON


      • nun sequitur says:

        & further on that, i m not ‘attacking’ any1…some would argu i m responding 2 an attack in ur clearly contemptuous words…i suggest u take ur finger pointed in my face & examine it closely…u will notice there r 3 fingers pointed towards u. I chose the higher ground here & s-p-e-l-l-e-d out words i would normally shorten. ..religion has nada 2 do with this post, so 2 any1 responding concerning that, remove ur head from ur netheregions & pay attention, please.

      • tekhedd says:

        Apparently it also uses less keystrokes to leave caps lock engaged.

        • ponderingtom says:

          So, ‘u’ instead of ‘you’ and ‘2’ instead of ‘to’ saves you ‘chronic pain’, but it didn’t hurt to type ‘s-p-e-l-l-e-d’? That actually hurt ME to spell it that way.

        • nun s equator says:

          it hurts 2 type no matter what i do. whatevr affects flo of thought least is what comes out & hav been attackd 4 it. Dont kno y i type @ all it is pointless pursuit. Th more i trunc8 the more i get pickd apart. it is best there remains some legibility 2 my outpourings, however unwelcome…& if u doubt my physical pain u r MISTAKEN. i m a dolt here, 4 even responding, i admit…

        • nun s equator says:

          …as 2 leaving caps engaged,


  2. Reverend Jon says:

    yes we all the the bible huggars are gonna say dumb stuff because they’re uneducated.


  3. Kakistos says:

    ah, a great example of the constructive power of irreverence.

  4. kyle says:

    1. It really isn’t fair to have your 1st grader write your hate-mail.
    2. Eating spaghetti until I die sounds like an amazing way to go out.
    3. Did he really call us butt pirates?

  5. Franklin says:

    You tell us to get off the internet and do something productive when, apparently what you is sit around sending paragraphs of hate mail to churches you don’t like. I will get off the internet when you do.

    • Nicolas says:

      I agree, Barney/Franklin, bu we never know if god is a spaghetti monster. Which he obviously is. Duh!

      • Franklin says:

        Where is the proof he isn’t.

        • AK says:

          I think thats is bull shit but i mean, its only my opinion.

        • Franklin says:

          Where is the proof?

        • Alphadi says:

          i think this is a pretty good way to sin in the name of another god

        • Alphadi says:

          how does de spaghetii monster come to be WHO BOILED HIM

        • Rosa says:

          bt dont u eat spaghetti? does tht mean u eat ur god?

  6. karl says:

    Arent u basically worshipping ur own poo?

    • Franklin says:

      I don’t know about you but I don’t poop pasta.

      • nun s equator says:

        There was a featured artist whom cre8d an entire structure which masticated food on 1 end, proccessd it thruout the twists & turns, mechanically, then emitted @ its far ‘end’ a heaping mass of what remained…it received a bit of attention judging by th fact we read of it @ all & also evidently garnered some criticisms…it is ART. who criticized it, people whom refrain from elimination? i wish i could recall the name of th artist, but i dont…he & the man whom did the nude chocolate jesus which was placed in a shop window in NYC, life sized & garnered a heap of detractors…i cannot recall his name, either. some1 ought make a giant nude fsm…

    • hamish says:

      The spaghetti you find on your menu – is crafted in His likeness. But this doesn’t mean what you eat is Him. But even if you DO eat Him, he’s not a vengeful God. He won’t smite. That’s the forgiving nature of His noodly appendage.

      Btw. in case you’re Christian (as I am, by birth)… you know that you eat the body and blood of Christ too.

      So… aren’t YOU worshipping your own poo? Worse yet… aren’t YOU worshipping a very very tiny part of your own poo?

  7. karl says:

    This religion actually came out because of something school related, this was supposed to be a parody are u going to follow it?

    • Nicolas says:

      bella, stop hating. i know ur jelous

  8. hamish says:

    “u can’t put any sense into say a devout christian. Honestly, what your doing is the equivalant of making a rude, sarcastic joke to a child that doesn’t understand humor.”

    They’re not exactly the target group here. Who is the right audience for the site?

    1. Other FSMers – Inside jokes all around. Plenty for everybody. Fun all the way.

    2. ‘Children’ and ‘Adults’ who CAN understand humor – Hey, they preach to the innocent, impressionable children about the bearded spaceman all their life. Maybe some of them – not all, but some – can read this and understand that it’s ok to question things… ok to believe in logic, and that the power of critical reasoning is really a powerful force.

    Now, the other children you were speaking about… the ones who can’t understand sarcasm. The joke is lost on them, alas. So he misunderstands the joke, frowns, and possibly pens an angry rant about how lame the joke is? about how offensive the joke is, perhaps.

    We’re fine with that.

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