Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act

Published May 28th, 2011 by Bobby Henderson


Here’s a video of Zack Kopplin on Hardball last night.  Zack is the student battling the Lousiana Science Education Act – a law that would allow “supplemental textbooks and other teaching materials” into science classrooms.  Zack saw this (correctly) as a backdoor method to teach Creationism and has been leading the fight against it.

Some of us remember the LSEA bill passing in 2008.  Zack’s been trying to get it repealed since then.  He found a senator to sponsor the repeal and has since found thousands of supporters (including over 40 Noble Laureates).  Yesterday Zack brought teachers and scientists to testify in favor of the repeal in front of the Louisiana Senate Education Committee.

Zack makes a couple excellent points on Hardball.  One is that science *is* a process of critical thinking (one of the ostensible purposes of the law is to promote critical thinking).  Another point is that a state’s science standards determine how their students will be viewed elsewhere. 

He also slams Michelle Bachman which is both fair and entertaining.

All in all it was an excellent appearance.  Zack deserves a lot of credit for his work.  I for one am very impressed and I’m confident he has a bright future ahead of him.  Whatever the fate of the repeal, Zack’s done a tremendous service for the cause of rationality.  The fight is as important as the outcome.  The Louisiana legislature may reject reason for a few more years but the rest of the world has benefited from watching this ordeal.   There are bills similar to the LSEA all across the country – it’s an ongoing struggle, and I’m glad there are people like Zack on our side.

Zack, please let us know if you need anything from Team FSM.  We have your back.

422 Responses to “Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act”

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  1. Insightful Ape says:

    A very brave young man. Jerry Coyne recently featured him on his blog, Why Evolution is True. Best of luck to him.

    • Samuel Johnson says:

      I support Zack Kopplin and all of you my friends. I believe that together we can overcome all obstacles and significantly improve the curriculum. We have to do it for our children! The curriculum should be correct and current. Changes are needed now!

      • Keith says:

        But Mr Johnson, sir, according to Boswell’s scribblings you were firmly convinced that the Earth was only 6000 years old. Have you changed your mind, or was Boswell wrong in what he wrote? (If your reply starts with “Why, no sir!” I will know indeed that you are the real thing.)

  2. Atsap Revol says:

    I tip my hat to Zack Kopplin. He is fighting the good fight to structure science classes around reason and eliminate superstition and unsupportable beliefs from curriculum. I vote to present him with the Pastafarian Medal for Intelligent Action.

    Atsap Revol

  3. Arve Eriksson says:

    Dude, I’m too thrilled to feel as moved as I am by this! And this isn’t even civil disobedience! Drown the kid in medals and vote him into office ASAP! (Uh… When will he be old enough, again? Legal age an’ all that?)

    • ppenguinator says:

      Who cares if he’s old enough? Do it anyway!

      • Keith says:

        He sounds a hell of a lot more sensible that most politicians. Perhaps they should lower the voting age in America and other countries (although the thought of Justin Bieber going into politics is pretty hideous).

        • lolhoofd says:

          Justin Bieber as politician?
          he might do more dmg then a war to the country …

          plz dont vote for it … ever …


  4. wafflycat says:

    Good man, Zack Kopplin!

  5. B. says:

    I admire him for taking this fight.

    And I’m deeply troubled by the fact that this is a fight at all. That true science must fight for its existence.

    We live in dark times.


    • Big Guy says:

      You are right, B, these are dark times when systematic collection of information and rational thought must be defended. This is a nation (USA) where one-third of the people believe in ghosts. Superstition and ignorance will overwhelm us if there are not more Zacks willing to challenge the surge of fundamentalist religion.

      • Big Guy says:

        Oh crap, i didn’t mean to cut and paste that message. Must have been one of my clones at work.

        • opiesysco says:

          All these Big Guys are starting to confuse me.
          I thought for a moment that the real Big Guy grew a brain.

      • Big Guy says:

        @ Atheist Big Guy impostor @ 9:21 & 9:24 am May 29, 2011

        tks for promoting me, you are juts a pawn in my personal chess game every post with my moniker attached is another feather in my Christendom cap.

        Christian hater you are not the one & only Big Guy

        • puppygoogoo says:


          You must have a lot of feathers. Do you look like a rooster or one of the New Guinean tribesman? A photo would be nice


      • SageandLavender says:

        Wait wait wait , what is wrong with people who believe in ghosts?

        • The Sauceror says:

          Dear SandL, there is nothing wrong with believing in ghosts. Why, just this morning, I was saying, “damn that ghost who keeps pushing the snooze button on my alarm clock and makes me late for work!”. Oddly, it happens at the same time every morning.

  6. Brian Fritzen says:

    Zack Kopplin:

    National Student of the Decade.

  7. Big Guy says:

    Zack are your parents proud of you?

    The blind leading the blind…

    Only in America can a high school student be afforded so much needless politically correct attention. Yes, it’s only about attention. Zack is like all high school students who are yet to discover themselves searching for their identities. In so he recklessly chooses to promote a childish atheistic view of the world for no other reason than to be contentious.

    Zack God loves you…

    • TimmyAnn says:

      “Childish atheist view of the world”? Yes, it is so much more mature to believe that there an old man with a long white beard who lives in the sky and although he is omnipotent, he is so insecure that he needs his creations to worship him or he gets his feelings hurt and sends them to suffer for eternity.

      • Alphy says:

        Amen to that Timmy. All we need is more religious crap, more superstition and more outragous excuses invented by fundamentalist religious idiots to justify the teaching of such crap as the pseudoscience of ‘creation’ science. Amen, brotha! Hallelujah! More religious horse shit!

    • TiltedHorizon says:

      Children believe in fairy tales, like Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and ridiculous stories in the bible. Of these, the bible is the most vile, imagine how unpopular the former would be if they threatened to kill you or your loved ones for the imaginable crime of not believing it. The legend of Santa would never be taught if the song went: “He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when your awake, he know if you believe in him, so believe for goodness sake! He will KILL YOU!”

      BTW, children tend to ‘find themselves’ by patterning themselves after other peer groups. It is a rare person, or teen in this case, who would risk social suicide for the sole purpose of being contentious. He really believes what is doing is right, leave it to a loving christian to try to undermine a minor.

      Zack, FSM loves you.

      • Midnight Rider says:

        Darnit Zack! Quit using that brain you have! Quit thinking with it! You will never be a good Christian if you are curious about things. :) It makes people like Big Guy uncomfortable when you make assertions based on logic. We will have NONE of this independent thought….it just leads to understanding….and we dont want understanding! Cuz when we use our thinking to figure something out, we might figure out that the church has been lying to us. And when we discover that…well, it will have no control over us. And THAT is the essence of Christendom…or I might say Christendumb. The Christian church is control over your mind. Look at Big Guy. He can’t think for himself. He has been programmed. He just spews the crap his Christian programmers have given him. He is afraid to have a legitimate, creative, thought independent of his programmers…

        • Pirate Johnson says:

          Let’s just call the Christian “Big Guy”, Little Guy. I don’t think that the actual Big Guy commented the anti-intelegence, teen-bashing comment.

        • Alphy says:

          Hey Zack, your response reminds me of a comment an elderly religious educator made to me. She said: “Alphy stop thinking. There is no need to think. It has all been done for you.” I ought to have told her – no sister I will think for myself. I quess there is nothing worse for all these ‘loving’, ‘spiritual’ people than to be surrounded by free thinkers. Ignorance, long may it live! Truth is too hard to take. especially the truth that we have evolved. I love FSM!

    • tekHedd says:

      Remember, if you reply to a troll, you fail.


    • chadachada123 says:

      Now, while we all agree that this particular “Big Guy” is a troll, I feel like we should all take note of what he tries to do here. At no point in this topic does it say that Zack is an atheist, and one needs not be an atheist to see that creationism is a load of superstitious gunk. Atheism and evolution are completely unrelated, and this should be noted when dealing with people like Big Guy here that AREN’T trolls.

    • Simon says:

      I hope Zack’s parents are proud of him. If he were my kid I would make sure everyone knew it.

  8. Big Guy says:

    link to http://www.weirdload.com]

    Malachi Martin and the “Enemy Within”

    Satanic Plots and the Fall of the Catholic Church

    An exerpt:

    From 1958 until 1964, Malachi Martin served in Rome as a Jesuit priest, where he was a close associate of, and carried out many sensitive missions for, the renowned Jesuit Cardinal Augustin Bea and Popes John XXIII and Paul VI. Released afterwards from his vows of poverty and obedience at his own request (but still a priest), he ultimately moved to New York and became a best-selling writer of fiction and non-fiction.

    Martin had first made explicit reference to a diabolic rite held in Rome in his 1990 non-fiction best-seller about geopolitics and the Vatican, The Keys of This Blood, in which he wrote:

    Most frighteningly for [Pope] John Paul [II], he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops’ chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the ‘superforce.’ Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI’s reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to ‘the smoke of Satan which has entered the Sanctuary’. . . an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican. Besides, the incidence of Satanic pedophilia — rites and practices — was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. The cultic acts of Satanic pedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel’s rites.
    (p. 632. Emphasis added)

    These allegations have largely gone unnoticed, possibly because Martin was so crafty in his descriptions that he might even have been referring to the coronation of Pope Paul VI. But he revealed much more about this alleged ritual in one of his last works, Windswept House: A Vatican Novel (1996).

    In this story, he vividly described a diabolical ceremony called “The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer” supposedly held in St. Paul’s Chapel within the Vatican, but linked with concurrent satanic rites here in the US, on June 29, 1963, barely a week after the election of Paul VI. In this novel, before he dies, a pope leaves a secret account of the situation on his desk for the next occupant of the throne of Peter, a thinly-disguised John Paul II.

    According to The New American, Martin confirmed that the ceremony did indeed occur as he had described. “Oh yes, it is true; very much so,” the magazine reported he said. “But the only way I could put that down into print is in novelistic form.”

    Windswept House is a sweeping novel, set on the grand global stage and the unfolding of the next stage of civilization, the ominously-named New World Order. It tackles head on a number of heavy issues from abortion to the Third Secret of Fatima, but the essential message seems to be this: Satanists lurk in the shadows, from the heart of the Vatican down to the local parishes, manipulating those fooled by the false spirit of Vatican II. They are doing their damnedest to subvert the Roman Catholic Church, while Pope John Paul II, intent on his geopolitical millennial endgame, fiddles about, waiting for a sign from the Blessed Virgin while the Church literally goes to hell around him.

    In Windswept House, Martin was quite explicit about the conditions in the Vatican, opening the novel with the above-mentioned satanic ritual. In it, Satan was formally enthroned in the Vatican in the Chapel of St. Paul (by all reports a dark and appropriately spooky place). The ceremony was co-ordinated via telephone with another simultanious rite in South Carolina.

    (This could be a reference to the claims of “Leo Taxil” who wrote spurious exposés of the Masons and fallen priests as devil-worshippers in the 19th century. He, too, claimed South Carolina — Charleston, to be exact — was a satanic headquarters. This was the hometown of Albert Pike, the only Confederate general memorialized in Washington, D.C., who reformed the Scottish Rite and was indeed an admitted “Luciferian.”)

    Obama is also a Luciferian.

    • TiltedHorizon says:

      Congrats Biggy, you actually provided a citation. The irony is you only did it as a reaction to us calling you out on the cutting and pasting. Which raises a valid point, nothing you have done here has changed us but it appears we have changed you.

      Does that mean we, the followers of FSM, are winning? That is a rhetorical question, I am not really expecting an answer since I have yet to get one from you.

      • lolhoofd says:

        sadly we both lose
        big guy for being like that he loses in life and we for leting him run free on our peacefull forum


        • TiltedHorizon says:

          Sadly I have to agree, poor Biggie, he lives in a bubble.

    • Midnight Rider says:

      If the Pope and Priests all convert to Pastafarianism, there will be peace among us and we will all live happily ever after. Because FSM ministers are not expected to be celibate hopefully there wont be as many pedophile ministers as there are in the Catholic religion.

    • puppygoogoo says:

      does anyone else find its strange the reference he gave is from weirdload.com? or is it just me?


      • TiltedHorizon says:

        A weird load link from the Patron Saint of Wanking, seems apropos and equally funny.

    • Rico Ganz says:

      I was wondering about the Satanic pedophilia, is that something to do with loving evil feet? If so, the Vatican has gone too far this time as it really should be Satanic unguphillia. Just trying to help.

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