Fallacy of your satire

Published June 14th, 2010 by Bobby Henderson

Hello, I have purchased and read your book, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and I would just like to share with you a constructive feedback of your book. For its objective purpose of proving the illogicality of the provincial-minded nature of those who stand in opposition to allowing the scientific theory of the Big Bang/Theory of Evolution from being taught publicly, it served its purpose well. However I would like to call to mind the hypocritical nature of the book. I believe consistency with one’s own message is important to achieve a total victory and it satirically charges Christians with creating blind assumptions. I understand the comparison of pirate decrease to global temperature increase was to further the point of the illogicality of religion, but you assumed there was a lesser amount of pirates. In fact there are more pirates now than there was in the 1700’s, the lack of the Pirates of the Caribbean-esque romanticism is the only reason this fact is not widely spread. You made an assumption which went against fact which defeated your principle of factual basis. One may argue that was the continuation of satire but that would be most likely incorrect as the faux-correlation of coincidence is the satire and not the actual analyzes as global temperature is indeed rising since the last minor ice age in the Napoleonic Era.

Furthermore it appears you attack religion as a whole entity as illogical and we’d be better off it was nonexistent as the end of the book turns into repetitive bashing, This is the same mindset as the illogical fundamentalists whom do not hear the logic of scientific theory who completely disregard science as it is alien to their beliefs. Religion is extremely important in its influence in sociology as it combats the modern mainstream schools of thought such as widespread apathy, post-modernism and rampant sensationalism. It teaches values of selflessness and charity opposing the media advocacy of self-service which even in an evolutionary sense is not nature as we are social animals which rely upon societal advancement, not just the advancement of self. Religion plays a large role in academic studies as well, I’m sure you’re aware that one of the theorists of the Big Bang Theory was a Catholic priest. To the (logically) theistic, the belief in God does not interact with evolution or creation as God is a theory pertaining to spiritual well being while evolution pertains to physical creation. Religion (or belief in God) does not isolate one from logic, rather the fallacy assuming that because one is religious they must abandon reason. I think if you had pulled back on the senseless bashing of theists and made it rather a criticism of the solely illogical due to their ignoring of blatant scientific evidence even the Pope would have agreed with you. Book such as the one of your own writing are dangerous as human beings tend to take the extremity of each end, by the extensive mockery of the religious you isolate them while creating a malicious current in atheists against theists, which is academically wrong as scholarly debate should be through procedure of logic but your book goes from such to foolery. Such anti-God contempt creates social hysteria making people, for example, atheistic in assumption of its logic while in fact they have little intelligence to even contemplate the bane of their existence.This correlates with the thesis of The Prince as one should be firm in their own beliefs and adhered to logic but they can also not crush the other side as that creates blatant opposition for the sake of opposition rather than following a conventional and more satisfying procedure of scholarly victory.

I hope your book has accomplished your objective and enlightens the close-minded Kansas Board of Education.

Maroun Shami


This is the type of email I like to receive.  I don’t agree with a lot of what Maroun is saying but I have a lot of respect for him voicing his criticism.  –bobby

228 Responses to “Fallacy of your satire”

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  1. scott johnson says:

    Pirates, pirates, pirates….i would have to disagree Maroun Shami…the fictional romanticized pirates are deffinatley on the decline, even endangered or perhaps already extinct. We’re not talking about the group of vigilanties roaming the indian ocean taking oil tanker hostage, but peg legged, eye patch wearing, parot owning, rum drunk pirates….you take the satire you admit to knowing hte book was too seriously and in doing so, you fail to see the humor and morals at their fullest. I understand despite you trying to prove otherwise, you have the mental capacity of a 5 year old. Which could be over come by simply not taking yourself so serriously…i know i dont!

  2. Judah says:

    If you don’t believe your religion is right and all other religions are wrong, when they clearly conflict with your own, then you are either ignorant to what your religion teaches or you do not truly belong to your religion.

  3. Someone out there says:

    Do you also respect people who still believe in Santa Clause at age 30? If not, where do you draw the line?

    The belief in a personal deity is very primitive superstition and similar to the belief in a Tooth Fairy or Santa Clause and I do not see why it is wrong to ridicule such a primitive superstition. It is not an attack on religion per se, as not all religions hold such primitive superstitions. For example, some forms of Buddhism and Pantheistic interpretations of Polytheism are entirely philosophical, entirely logical and compatible with modern science. The FSM by no means offends these people as their criticism is just a criticism of primitive superstition and not philosophy.

  4. Zoro says:

    Phallacy of our faith? Great! Our faith has a fertility aspect as well now!! Thank you for enlightening us!

    Live long and pasta.

  5. Bill Yeager says:

    Maroun, you use the old apologistic fall-back of declaring religion’s ‘usefulness’ or even ‘necessity’ in combating many negative aspects of modern society. This is completely bunk as a defence because the dysfunctional behaviour we witness everyday is born out of dysfunctional and toxic nurture during childhood, whether through harmful religious dogma or nontheist ignorance (yes nontheists can be assholes too!), we are responsible for the harms we inflict on our young and these harms are the source of every culture’s psychological malaise. If you want proof, see http://developingchild.harvard.edu/initiatives/council/

    Adults who rape, murder, assault and abuse are not ‘evil’, they are psychologically and, as current research is now showing, neurologically damaged individuals who do not have a background of positive nurture in a truly healthy family and social environment. Raising children to believe in supernatural entities and encouraging ‘magical thinking’ does little to positively enhance their mal-adjusted psyche. But then, raising children to be irreligious through ignorance, rather than education, promoting a wealth of expectation and a poverty of ideas and ambition through shallow and harmful values, such as consumerism, materialism and celebrity, are capable of creating unthinking and unquestioning drones too.

    Religion offers no solution that a nontheistic, civil society, cannot offer. If anything it simply serves to mask much of the symptomatic problems of the ‘human condition’ and, in doing so, fails to be a remedy and, for much of the time, actually compounds the psychological malaise by the application of ever more complex and supernatural excuses for ‘the evil that men do’. This means that, instead of the global society being able to unite together and rapidly solve our inherent cultural problems which are borne out of the ignorance of ‘tradition’ and ‘normalisation’, we are required, by law, to have to ‘respect’ the delusions of the pious.

    That is why we are passionate, or even angry, about the repeated excuses and defence of the indefensible we witness daily from theists, here and in real life. We can see real and tangible ways to positively address the world’s problems, you just see another reason to reinforce your unquestioned delusion. Guess what, you’re wrong and we’re right, accept it and become part of the solution instead of the problem.

    • Seven says:

      I wish I was your kid. No creepiness intended.

  6. Brad says:

    Ok..I am WAY late to this discussion and I have not been able to read all of the comments, not even the original author’s comments…but hear me out on the pointlessness of all of this.

    When someone starts quoting the Bible as “He said”– like is ACTUALLY HAPPENED you are going nowhere in an argument. The Old Testament is obviously a group of stories passed down from generation to generation (and in many cases peoples to peoples) meant to help explain the heritage of a people and a religion, and to pass on a moral code to live by. Ok, but the New Testament, taken as gospel (sorry for the pun), is just plain silly. The Gospels were not written by eye witnesses. The majority of them were written long after Jesus’ death. I may not be exact in dating here (being it is 9 in the morning and the Backyardignas are blaring in the background), but the earliest of the Gospels dates to at least 30 years after Jesus’ death. Other date more than a century.

    So…my point. When people quote the quotes in the Bible like they are ACTUAL comments by ACTUAL witnesses, you are fighting a battle you can’t win. Their minds have been made up when they were little kids that this stuff was all 100% factual.

    If people want to use the Bible(s) as a text to reference and use for a moral code, fine. But if they believe that the Flood or the Exodus or other events happened as described in the Bible you have been pushed too far into the realm of faith to dent their armor.

    Just move on to the next one. Remember, no extreme liberal ever watched O’Reilly and said to themselves “Hmm…I have been wrong all along!” and no Dittohead ever watched MSNBC and thought of the folly of their beliefs.

    Thanks for your time.


  7. Jeff says:

    You do not need religion to teach selflessness and “do onto others” to your children. You just teach them that. Its called being a good parent. Religion is a way to teach those things. I’m not saying its wrong, however, the things attached to religion make it such a negative topic. The only reason the hate box is here because people that leave comments like this where you say its all to bash religion are leaving hypocritical remarks doing the same thing that they claim bobby is doing. This is an battle that will never be won. So give it a rest. Stop arguing and just keep teaching great morals. We may not all agree on our beliefs but please tell me we can all just be genuinely nice people.

  8. roni poja says:

    Nice blog! I just love your style. It is very fascinating.

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