Florida evolution showdown – part 2

Published January 20th, 2008 by Bobby Henderson


My Clay Sun has published a report on the recent Clay County School Board meeting:

Despite impassioned opposition from science experts, teachers and some clergy, Clay County School Board members unanimously resolved Tuesday night that evolution should be presented as a theory, and not fact, in the classroom.

The board passed a resolution, proposed by Superintendent David Owens, asking the Florida Department of Education to reword its newly proposed state standards, which presents evolution as “the fundamental concept underlying all of biology and is supported in multiple forms of scientific evidence.”

The Baker County, Florida, School Board approved a similar resolution a month ago.

The Florida State Board of Education is scheduled to vote Feb. 19th on proposed changes to state science standards.

Creationists will likely continue their campaign that evolution is “just a theory”, and as such should not be presented as fact. Their argument is that unless a theory has been “proved”, it is no more valid than any other theory. They don’t realize – or choose not to acknowledge – that most theories in science have not been “proved”, and it’s not the purpose of science to provide dogmatic proof of anything.

Scientists will likely continue to get worked up and make compelling logical arguments that will go right over the Creationists’ heads. They’ll not accept that appeals to logic don’t work on those who have abandoned logic for faith.

Here are some links if you’d like to read more.

My Clay Sun report on the Clay County School Board resolution

Florida Today article on the upcoming State School Board vote

Florida Citizens for Science coverage of the issue

We need to decide how we’ll proceed …


170 Responses to “Florida evolution showdown – part 2”

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  1. Dr Dagger says:

    Lots of people say “there’s no evidence either way so it must be equal probability” about God, but there’s no evidence that there isn’t an element that tastes exactly like chocolate, is green, one millilitre weighs the same as a car and is normally 5000 degrees celsius, so is it equal probability?

  2. Atheist Pitbull says:

    This is showing social evolution, by destroying their own education system they are condemning their children to an inferior future. If creationists are so afraid of evolution their faith must not be very strong. This is simply ridiculous, we have to keep Florida from demeaning evolution like this or other states will begin to follow suit and they may even begin to attack the FSM ‘theory’ of life.

    I am ready to contact any board member, freedom from religion group, news group, anyone to bring this situation to the front pages and let the sensible people take action.

    -Atheist Pitbull

  3. flyingspaghettiapostle says:

    To hell with the counties – go after the heart of the education system the school board itself!!! RAmen.

  4. bald pirate says:

    it is more powerful weapon to make them look IDiots, than simply reject ID/crea bull***t

  5. Benji says:

    I am afraid that we cannot do much. Our best hope is that people in florida will be concerned about it and work out together against this political crap.

    RAmen, my friend, RAmen… this country is going as crazy as the world, as crazy as any God who would create it… I am so glad that I found here some people to understand that. HE (the FSM) necessarily created it by accident, or being drunk.

    But no time to despair, let work for the next generation. We certainly need to increase visibility, whitout to get shot. Hard task.

  6. You_don't_know_me says:

    Evolution is a theory as much as Gravity is a theory. When will they learn?

    Anyways, I say we try and get our theory of creation included.

  7. Stevo says:

    Such a shame. I agree that logical arguments can unfortunately go no where.

    I obviously don’t live in Clay County, and I’m curious: do schools in that area have “World Religions” classes at any level of public education? Some variation of this class exists at the majority of Canadian high schools – is this the case in the States?

  8. Brandon says:

    I am from Florida Citizens for Science. It is apparent that you folks had quite an effect on Polk County a while ago. With that in mind, I would recommend that you go ahead and take the same approach with the other counties and the state BoE.

    Scroll down a bit on the FCS blog and you’ll see a post that lists darn near every single person and county that has come out as anti-evolution. Reference and contact information is all there for your use.


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