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641 - April 3rd, 2007 at 4:32 pm - Wench Nikkiee Says:
@Alchemist
“toxick Magick is the direct application of one’s power and abilities to speedily bring about the destruction of mediocrity and stupidityâ€
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hahahahahahaha
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@DPG
RAmen Peter -
642 - April 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 pm - Wench Nikkiee Says:
I’d like to wish to Hungdaddy that it be touched By His Noodly Appendage.
His Noodlyness may have to get in line though :)) -
643 - April 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 pm - Alchemist Says:
@DPG
“Btw, should you go into some scientific direction, you’ll come to long for clear, black-and-white situations”
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The phrase so beloved by chemists “ok - so imagine that it’s blue, it should be blue!” or “Yellow! NO - OK everyone, exit the lab NOW!” -
644 - April 3rd, 2007 at 4:46 pm - DutchPastaGuy Says:
@Wench Nikkiee
“His Noodlyness may have to get in line though :))”
And a pretty long line it would be too. First there’s hungdaddys left hand touching himself. Then there’s his right hand. Then there’s his blow-up doll. Then there’s his hamster. The list goes on and on. -
645 - April 3rd, 2007 at 9:14 pm - Rowdy Wench Says:
@ DPG - “First there’s hungdaddys left hand touching himself. Then there’s his right hand. Then there’s his blow-up doll. Then there’s his hamster. The list goes on and on.” Wahahahaha! I’m sad I missed hungdaddy. It’s been a rough week around here and I’ve gotten behind! :( I didn’t read Batman’s comments but I really liked what you had to say to Jordan.
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646 - April 3rd, 2007 at 10:01 pm - Jingles Says:
LONG POST
@Jordan
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Just to add to what DPG was saying, you mentioned being asked to believe things are true without knowing why. It sucks, but there is a reason.
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It is, as your teacher told you, because you are too low level, but that is not at all a bad thing. Quite simply, the truth is ridiculously complicated.
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Highschool is spent teaching what are best described as “lies-to-children” (I’d strongly suggest you read Science of the Discworld, by Terry Pratchett, Jack Cohen and Ian Stewart, it’s where I nicked the term).
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You are told basic approximations, and nice little stories, because they suffice for anything you will be asked to do. To explain how they actually work requires (more often then not) several pages of mathematical explanantion, which in turn need to be explained, as the methods used are not at all simple (If you ever do a degree with physics or calculus components, you will learn to loath multi-dimensional integration).
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If you wish to study the subject more, they’ll peel away that layer of lies (approximations would really be a better term), and replace them with a slightly truer, but much harder to understand, set of approximations. As you progress further, the lies slowly approach the truth.
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The thing is, scientists don’t actually know the truth, and have no way of conclusively proving it if we do, so this process keeps going ad infinitum. That’s how science works. We keep going to infinity, getting closer and closer to the true answer, but we must sacrifice transperency in the process.
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To actually understand what they are talking bout at present, all that string theory gunk, requires a ridiculous level of mathematical skill, something they simply can’t teach you at highschool.
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Now, please compare this to religion. Religion tells you a lie as well, at the beginning. BUT (and I use bad grammar intentionally) rather then strip it away as you progress, it instead builds on it. Each subsequent piece of information relies on the previous, and does nothing to correct the original flaws.
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So, eventually, you end up with people whose entire lives are based around an easily faulted premise, yet most attempt to attack the initial fault will fail. Why?
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Simply because the person has so much rding on that one premise, that for them to acknowledge the fault, their whole world is exposed as false. It is why so often, the devout will refuse all evidence to the contrary. Just look at Answers in Genesis’ promotion of the idea that pi = 3 exactly, or their insistance that the world is only 6000 yrs old.
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It’s why those that break from religion generally do so while still young, and why there is conflict between religions if only one is right, then the other is living a lie (and obviously, no dirty heathen knows more than we do!).
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There is a big difference between science and religion. Science approaches truth, religion covers it with crap. -
647 - April 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 pm - Rowdy Wench Says:
@ Jingles - By FSM, you are brilliant! I’m glad to see you posting tonight because I always think you have really good things to say.
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648 - April 3rd, 2007 at 10:48 pm - Wench Nikkiee Says:
A huge RAmen Jingles :))
I wish I had the ability, both mentally and literally, to explain things the way you do :))
RAmen -
649 - April 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 pm - Mathy Kid Says:
Awesome comments Batman, DutchPastaGuy, and Jingles. Thank you for giving me excellently phrased arguments to steal. I will print out your stuff and show it to Jordan in Chemistry class tomorrow and see what he says…
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650 - April 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 pm - Rowdy Wench Says:
@ Wench Nikkiee - I am always in awe of Jingles’ posts!
I just went back and read some more of this thread from earlier…I’ve been so busy I’ve missed out on a bunch of fun! *insert dejected Rowdy Wench*. -
651 - April 3rd, 2007 at 11:32 pm - Wench Nikkiee Says:
Hi Rowdy
Yeah :) Didn’t see your post up when I posted.
RAmen
ps gotta run off again :( -
652 - April 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 pm - Jingles Says:
Awww… *blushes* If you keep this up, I’ll have an ego to match thump-diddly-umps…
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653 - April 3rd, 2007 at 11:53 pm - Rowdy Wench Says:
@ Jingles - Glad to help! :)
@ Wench Nikkiee - Time for bed for me! I’ll be around tomorrow…hope to catch you then!
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654 - April 4th, 2007 at 12:00 am - Jingles Says:
Nighty-night!
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655 - April 4th, 2007 at 4:09 am - Wench Thumper â„¢ Says:
@Alchemist
“You’ve got a long way to go before you can compete with TLM as “my favourite trollâ€.”…I’m a little wounded…I thought I was your favourite troll…what about the bit about the rockbadger???…you can’t tell me that wasn’t good trollin’…
@Jingles
“I’ll have an ego to match thump-diddly-umps…”…That’s Wench Thump-diddly-umps…don’t worry about my ego…Alchemist just set it back a bit…at least for the 5 minutes or so it takes me to post this anyway…good post by the way…very sensible…wish I’d said it…
@The Wenches
Helloooo Sisters!!! how are we all going??? I’m still waiting on that “girl chat”…now that I’m a wench ‘n’ all… -
656 - April 4th, 2007 at 4:17 am - Wench Nikkiee Says:
Hello Wench Thumper :)
“I’m still waiting on that “girl chatâ€â€¦now that I’m a wench ‘n’ all…”
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How about the painful pleasures of childbirth? :p -
657 - April 4th, 2007 at 4:24 am - Wench Nikkiee Says:
Hmm…I’ve heard many stories from fellow wenches and all were told in graphic detail with lots of facial expressions.
Hang on I know! Have you got a good recipe for pumpkin scones…..no.. not the genetic makeup of hungdaddy….the edible ones? -
658 - April 4th, 2007 at 4:42 am - Wench Nikkiee Says:
Ooops…I’m out Wench Thumper…need sleep :(
Catch you on the roundabout :)) -
659 - April 4th, 2007 at 5:53 am - Red DutchPasta Kidd Says:
eeewww wench Nikkiee, thats not a subject I’d be happy to discuss. Th scones is a much better idea, I love baking and cooking.
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Wench Thumper what would you like to discuss,new-found sister? We could talk shops, except I don’t really care about clothes that much… I love shopping for books though, is there anything you like shopping for? -
660 - April 4th, 2007 at 6:29 am - Wench Thumper â„¢ Says:
@Wenchy
I was present at a child birthing once…not pleasent for any concerned…had nightmares for a week…still…wasn’t as bad as witnessing a 7 pound baby produce 3.5 pounds of poo at my first nappy change…had nightmares for two weeks…
@Red
Do the girls like to talk about cricket??? I’d sure like to talk about cricket!!! *insert excited wench wabbit*…
