Comments on: Springfield Street-Corner Evangelizing http://www.venganza.org Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:31:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Peter http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-474069 Peter Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:19:01 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-474069 Aren't Christians agressive little people. They also seem to use expletives quite easily - almost as if they are not very eloquent. I would have more respect for them if they would come out with a couple of hearty sea-oaths and curses occasionally. Aren’t Christians agressive little people. They also seem to use expletives quite easily - almost as if they are not very eloquent. I would have more respect for them if they would come out with a couple of hearty sea-oaths and curses occasionally.

]]> By: Mosselman http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-471795 Mosselman Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:07:00 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-471795 RAmen to the cheesemakers and Rallelujah for seeing the light using my powerswitch. Bless all gods men created the past 5000 years or so. And goodnight from Holland as well. RAmen to the cheesemakers and Rallelujah for seeing the light using my powerswitch. Bless all gods men created the past 5000 years or so. And goodnight from Holland as well.

]]> By: adam http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-430266 adam Mon, 05 May 2008 19:46:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-430266 the translation of the bible took serval years to do and it was done by those that belived in the Lord Jesus Christ . for the bible say dont tamper with God's Word. "For i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, "Surely I come quickly." Amen. Even so, come Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen." Revelation 22:18-21 and you guys say "RAmen you know you just taking that from the bible you just added the letter R in front of Amen, your guys theory on how this world got here and how we got here doesnt make any sence either. How does making a mountain and trees and a midgit start a whole world popualtion?PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT I would really like to know. You can even e-mail me at jesusdied4all316@yahoo.com. And I just wanna Say GOD BLESS you fellow Christians on here tring to tell these people bout Jesus and my God Bless your guys heart and help the rest of you see the light of our Lord Jesus Christ. the translation of the bible took serval years to do and it was done by those that belived in the Lord Jesus Christ . for the bible say dont tamper with God’s Word. “For i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, “Surely I come quickly.” Amen. Even so, come Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.” Revelation 22:18-21 and you guys say “RAmen you know you just taking that from the bible you just added the letter R in front of Amen, your guys theory on how this world got here and how we got here doesnt make any sence either. How does making a mountain and trees and a midgit start a whole world popualtion?PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT I would really like to know. You can even e-mail me at jesusdied4all316@yahoo.com. And I just wanna Say GOD BLESS you fellow Christians on here tring to tell these people bout Jesus and my God Bless your guys heart and help the rest of you see the light of our Lord Jesus Christ.

]]> By: sam http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-405453 sam Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:32:05 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-405453 bunch of homos and retards! that's for sure! bunch of homos and retards! that’s for sure!

]]> By: sam http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-405445 sam Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:27:26 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-405445 what kind of foolishness is this!? have you gone mad you freaks!? i would say that this is the stupidest and dumbest cult ever! hahaha…. you bunch of idiots, look at yourselves your hilarious! try to recruit Richard Famador, will ya? he might as well join your ignorance and stupidity…. hahaha…. you freaks are jokes! go home to your grandmamas and suck your milk bottles! you might have your minds fixed again…. what kind of foolishness is this!? have you gone mad you freaks!?
i would say that this is the stupidest and dumbest cult ever! hahaha….
you bunch of idiots, look at yourselves your hilarious!
try to recruit Richard Famador, will ya?
he might as well join your ignorance and stupidity….
hahaha….
you freaks are jokes!
go home to your grandmamas and suck your milk bottles!
you might have your minds fixed again….

]]> By: Piratey Ninja http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-374471 Piratey Ninja Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:11:41 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-374471 I'm so going to try and get together with some friends to do this. Great work to all here who are sticking up for the FSM. And anyone else notice the others here don't actually make an argument, just spew quotes from a book...? xD RAmen to all of ya. I’m so going to try and get together with some friends to do this. Great work to all here who are sticking up for the FSM. And anyone else notice the others here don’t actually make an argument, just spew quotes from a book…? xD

RAmen to all of ya.

]]> By: James http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-333322 James Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:43:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-333322 Hey Wilbur, Wassa, good message, everyone will all go on their knees and worship the true savior, I didn't really get the Jesus bit, but we pastafarians know were right. And Wilbur, what do you mean it will be too late? Because your god, FSM is kind to all, non-believers or otherwise. Glad to see other people following the world of FSM and thier able to justify their beliefs with other people's religious texts! Pastafarians kick ass. -J.T.S. Hey Wilbur,
Wassa, good message, everyone will all go on their knees and worship the true savior, I didn’t really get the Jesus bit, but we pastafarians know were right. And Wilbur, what do you mean it will be too late? Because your god, FSM is kind to all, non-believers or otherwise. Glad to see other people following the world of FSM and thier able to justify their beliefs with other people’s religious texts! Pastafarians kick ass.
-J.T.S.

]]> By: Pluveus http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-318950 Pluveus Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:17:03 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-318950 I agree with Thomas, the major problem with organized religion, especially with fundamentalism, is that it gets too engorged with dogma, and it begins to loathe and lash out against anything that presents a different idea. No reasonable, intelligent Pastafarian will dispute or cast down the things that Jesus taught about loving other people, about not using the name of God to abuse and rob the less fortunate(wow, that sounds familiar), and about a God that forgives his creations if they wish to be forgiven and will let love in their heart. The quote from Mohandas Gandhi on page 91 of the Gospel says it best. "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." I agree with Thomas, the major problem with organized religion, especially with fundamentalism, is that it gets too engorged with dogma, and it begins to loathe and lash out against anything that presents a different idea. No reasonable, intelligent Pastafarian will dispute or cast down the things that Jesus taught about loving other people, about not using the name of God to abuse and rob the less fortunate(wow, that sounds familiar), and about a God that forgives his creations if they wish to be forgiven and will let love in their heart. The quote from Mohandas Gandhi on page 91 of the Gospel says it best. “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

]]> By: Fredrik Mattsson http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-315149 Fredrik Mattsson Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:48:17 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-315149 haha, great stuff! let me know if your followers do something in sweden! Ramen haha, great stuff! let me know if your followers do something in sweden!
Ramen

]]> By: Thomas http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-311769 Thomas Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:43:09 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-311769 It seems the christians here completely missed my point. That's only fair, because I'm quite confident I don't get their's either. I will make a last attempt to clearly state what I mean. Devotees of any religion tend to take Their holy scriptures literally word for word. In my opinion that's sometimes even dangerous, but in any case I would consider it unwise, because what is written simply can't be an accurate tale of what really happened (for instance) 2000 years ago. I will illustrate my point with some bible history, as I know a fair bit about it. I once was a catholic, until I grew old enough to ask myself the question why I should believe the stories my parents and teachers were telling me. . First off, the bible as we read it today is a translation. The bible has been translated plenty of times throughout history, going from one language to another or changed to more modern wordings. And inevitably, plenty of it's original content has been lost in translation. This already is a reason taking the text of the bible literally is rather pointless, as it's original text is probably quite different. For instance, using the bible, a French monk once tried to calculate Jesus' exact birth date. Eventually, he concluded Jesus had to be born somewhere between 4 and 6 before Christ... . The old testament is a part of the Tanakh (The jewish 'bible', to clear that up). It is, in short, the part that tells about the beginning of the world, the greatness of God, loyal worshippers of God, the risks of denying God and the promise of a saviour. The old testament as we read it today differs incredibly from how it was written originally. This is because it was rewritten by the jews during the Babylonian exile (a true and historically proven event). During this exile, while the jews were kept (mostly) as slaves by the Babylonians, the Jewish faith began to fade. Some reasoned the Babylonian gods had to be more powerful, as they had defeated "God's chosen people". Most of them took over Babylonian faith beacause the Babylonians encouraged this with rewards and easier lives. To counter this, the faithful jews rewrote the Tanakh, making it more spectaculair by adding a great deal of miracles. In the original scripture for instance, the red sea never split on Mozes' command. Instead God made the east wind blow all night to make the sea slightly retreat. In the original story God was simply with his people, not present as a column of fire and smoke. It is also no coincidence that the name of the most important Babylonian god, Baal, became one of the names of the devil. . The new testament was actually written about 300 years after Jesus' death. I'm not sure what the sources of Matteüs, Marcus, Lucas and Johannes (these are the actual names of Matthew, Mark, Lucas and John. they were 'englishized' because they were too hard to pronounce in the English language) were, but I doubt they had some accurate video footage about Jesus' life. In other words, they were writing down a story about events that had been passed on mostly from mouth to mouth over 300 years. Sories going from mouth to mouth tend to get more spectaculair every time they're told, and this would explain most of the miracles taking place in the bible. In addition to the sheer impossibility of that story going on for 300 years unchanged, they most likely didn't write down everything, only the things they believed should be in the book. Lastly it is aknown fact they had no information wathsoever about Jesus' birth and young years. The writers made up the whole 'Christmas story' (born in a manger and stuff). In the middle ages, the bible was given it's final form (excluding later translations and edits for more modern language) by the Vatican. There were plenty of gospels, over 30, yet the Vatican chose to only include the 4 that are known today. Crudely stated, they only included those that fitted them best. Or reflected the Christian faith best IN THEIR OPINION. This is the stuff they didn't teach me in sunday school, this IS the stuff that seems far more plausible and is backed up by more than one thick book. I'm not saying here the bible is a piece of trash. Eventually, it preaches some noble values like 'love thy neighbour' and that's a good thing. I AM saying here it is rather pointless to take the bible or any other holy book from any other religion literally. (The sceintology holy book was actually a science fiction novel for crying out loud...) These books are meant to pass on a faith and it's ideas, not simply words. It seems the christians here completely missed my point. That’s only fair, because I’m quite confident I don’t get their’s either. I will make a last attempt to clearly state what I mean.
Devotees of any religion tend to take Their holy scriptures literally word for word. In my opinion that’s sometimes even dangerous, but in any case I would consider it unwise, because what is written simply can’t be an accurate tale of what really happened (for instance) 2000 years ago.
I will illustrate my point with some bible history, as I know a fair bit about it. I once was a catholic, until I grew old enough to ask myself the question why I should believe the stories my parents and teachers were telling me.
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First off, the bible as we read it today is a translation. The bible has been translated plenty of times throughout history, going from one language to another or changed to more modern wordings. And inevitably, plenty of it’s original content has been lost in translation. This already is a reason taking the text of the bible literally is rather pointless, as it’s original text is probably quite different.
For instance, using the bible, a French monk once tried to calculate Jesus’ exact birth date. Eventually, he concluded Jesus had to be born somewhere between 4 and 6 before Christ…
.
The old testament is a part of the Tanakh (The jewish ‘bible’, to clear that up). It is, in short, the part that tells about the beginning of the world, the greatness of God, loyal worshippers of God, the risks of denying God and the promise of a saviour. The old testament as we read it today differs incredibly from how it was written originally. This is because it was rewritten by the jews during the Babylonian exile (a true and historically proven event). During this exile, while the jews were kept (mostly) as slaves by the Babylonians, the Jewish faith began to fade. Some reasoned the Babylonian gods had to be more powerful, as they had defeated “God’s chosen people”. Most of them took over Babylonian faith beacause the Babylonians encouraged this with rewards and easier lives. To counter this, the faithful jews rewrote the Tanakh, making it more spectaculair by adding a great deal of miracles. In the original scripture for instance, the red sea never split on Mozes’ command. Instead God made the east wind blow all night to make the sea slightly retreat. In the original story God was simply with his people, not present as a column of fire and smoke. It is also no coincidence that the name of the most important Babylonian god, Baal, became one of the names of the devil.
.
The new testament was actually written about 300 years after Jesus’ death. I’m not sure what the sources of Matteüs, Marcus, Lucas and Johannes (these are the actual names of Matthew, Mark, Lucas and John. they were ‘englishized’ because they were too hard to pronounce in the English language) were, but I doubt they had some accurate video footage about Jesus’ life. In other words, they were writing down a story about events that had been passed on mostly from mouth to mouth over 300 years. Sories going from mouth to mouth tend to get more spectaculair every time they’re told, and this would explain most of the miracles taking place in the bible. In addition to the sheer impossibility of that story going on for 300 years unchanged, they most likely didn’t write down everything, only the things they believed should be in the book. Lastly it is aknown fact they had no information wathsoever about Jesus’ birth and young years. The writers made up the whole ‘Christmas story’ (born in a manger and stuff).

In the middle ages, the bible was given it’s final form (excluding later translations and edits for more modern language) by the Vatican. There were plenty of gospels, over 30, yet the Vatican chose to only include the 4 that are known today. Crudely stated, they only included those that fitted them best. Or reflected the Christian faith best IN THEIR OPINION.

This is the stuff they didn’t teach me in sunday school, this IS the stuff that seems far more plausible and is backed up by more than one thick book.
I’m not saying here the bible is a piece of trash. Eventually, it preaches some noble values like ‘love thy neighbour’ and that’s a good thing. I AM saying here it is rather pointless to take the bible or any other holy book from any other religion literally. (The sceintology holy book was actually a science fiction novel for crying out loud…) These books are meant to pass on a faith and it’s ideas, not simply words.

]]> By: Captain Cinralle' http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-301924 Captain Cinralle' Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:42:13 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-301924 "He who unbelieve'th and goes by the sheep's turn, shell yonder a sea of hopelessness across a meadowe sky. No cross for an un-foreseeing yonder that will plucke'th essence of nutmeg from thayn chest. And so shall He lead a virtue greater than lords of yore, believe and shall you be believed in." ElDante 13:42 “He who unbelieve’th and goes by the sheep’s turn, shell yonder a sea of hopelessness across a meadowe sky. No cross for an un-foreseeing yonder that will plucke’th essence of nutmeg from thayn chest. And so shall He lead a virtue greater than lords of yore, believe and shall you be believed in.” ElDante 13:42

]]> By: Pasta_Girl http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-301623 Pasta_Girl Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:43:22 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-301623 "I'd Really Rather You Didn't Use My Existence As A Mean To Opress, Subjugate, Punish, Eviscerate, And/Or, You Know, Be Mean To Others. I Don't Require Sacrifices And Purity Is For Drinking Water, Not People." (The Gospel of FSM, The Eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts," Verse 2) This is One of My Golden Rules! Isn't He he greatest God of all gods? RAmen!!! “I’d Really Rather You Didn’t Use My Existence As A Mean To Opress, Subjugate, Punish, Eviscerate, And/Or, You Know, Be Mean To Others. I Don’t Require Sacrifices And Purity Is For Drinking Water, Not People.” (The Gospel of FSM, The Eight “I’d Really Rather You Didn’ts,” Verse 2)

This is One of My Golden Rules! Isn’t He he greatest God of all gods?

RAmen!!!

]]> By: Brittni_Lover_of_RAmen http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-294193 Brittni_Lover_of_RAmen Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:06:49 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-294193 omg, u guys are an insperation peace love and pirates RAmen omg, u guys are an insperation

peace love and pirates

RAmen

]]> By: Tehstockmaster http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-293996 Tehstockmaster Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:53:25 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-293996 RAmen to that. may you be touched by his noodly appendage. RAmen to that. may you be touched by his noodly appendage.

]]> By: wilbur http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-291289 wilbur Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:53:25 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-291289 Mark 16:16 says he that believeth not shall be damned. You unbelievers must realize that someday "every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord" but for many it will be forever too late. For the glory of God, please repent and "save yourselves from this untoward generation." Jesus said, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Contrary to popular opinion, the way to eternal life is through dying to yourself and in love to Christ obeying His teachings in the new testament. Mark 16:16 says he that believeth not shall be damned. You unbelievers must realize that someday “every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord” but for many it will be forever too late. For the glory of God, please repent and “save yourselves from this untoward generation.”
Jesus said, “If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Contrary to popular opinion, the way to eternal life is through dying to yourself and in love to Christ obeying His teachings in the new testament.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-280185 Thomas Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:13:31 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-280185 You can slap around our ears with bible citates all you want, but you forget that anyone who's not a christian sees that book for what it really is: just another book. Why so many people believe it contains only devine truth is one of those mysteries of the last 2000 years. To non-christians, a bible citate means nothing, or a morality lesson (completely loose from any religion) at best, and thus bible citates are completely worthless when trying to convince us. A book is no proof as you can write whatever you want in it. And claiming it is only truth, even for thousands of years, doesn't make it truth. You can slap around our ears with bible citates all you want, but you forget that anyone who’s not a christian sees that book for what it really is: just another book. Why so many people believe it contains only devine truth is one of those mysteries of the last 2000 years. To non-christians, a bible citate means nothing, or a morality lesson (completely loose from any religion) at best, and thus bible citates are completely worthless when trying to convince us.

A book is no proof as you can write whatever you want in it. And claiming it is only truth, even for thousands of years, doesn’t make it truth.

]]> By: mike http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-279570 mike Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:19:58 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-279570 Is eating spa-geddy and meatballs like communion? Is eating spa-geddy and meatballs like communion?

]]> By: wilbur http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-272856 wilbur Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:13:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-272856 Indeed there seems to be no fear of God here. Repent and obey the Gospel of Christ. It is your only hope. Jesus said that his word will judge us on the last day. John12:48 Indeed there seems to be no fear of God here. Repent and obey the Gospel of Christ. It is your only hope. Jesus said that his word will judge us on the last day. John12:48

]]> By: Johnathan http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-251667 Johnathan Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:27:57 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-251667 I ate you're flying God for suppper lastnight. Delish I ate you’re flying God for suppper lastnight. Delish

]]> By: Captain Capelli d'angelo http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-238340 Captain Capelli d'angelo Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:48:02 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/spread-the-word/springfield#comment-238340 God who created man and gave us His Word (the Bible) will send His son Jesus with His mighty angels. In flaming fire Jesus will take “vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; when he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe(because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.” 2 Thessalonians 1:7 This is why we preach Jesus’ teachings. HEY WILBUR! In the immortal words of Mr. Universe..."bring in on, bring it on..." God who created man and gave us His Word (the Bible) will send His son Jesus with His mighty angels. In flaming fire Jesus will take “vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; when he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe(because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.” 2 Thessalonians 1:7
This is why we preach Jesus’ teachings.

HEY WILBUR! In the immortal words of Mr. Universe…”bring in on, bring it on…”

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