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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
I really love how a lot of us take the time to answer hate-mail posts but to no avail. No one ever writes back. No one wants a legitimate debate. Everyone just wants to complain and remain ignorant.
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That’s right. That’s you Geltown and all the others who never even try.
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RAmen,
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P.E.T.
this is a response to RAmen,or P.E.T,or whatever you call yourself to make you feel cool…
all i have to say is stop reigning on peoples parades. why do you have to go around crushing the beliefs of others. is it beacause you do not have any of your own. what is so wrong with people having faith in something that cannot be explained or seen. faith gives people purpose and hope for something good to come out of something bad like death. besides, where did the human race come from if there is no god and if you really believe that human beings evolved from the primates then you must be ignorant. scientist themselves have not concluded the origin of mankind. so stop with your scientific bullshit and actually think about the possibility of a super natural being that created all living and none living matter.
Hey Tom,
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You have to realize a few things. It makes little difference to me, personally, if people choose to live a life of faith. That is their choice and that’s all there is to it. However, if they also choose to attempt, as you have, to ignorantly impose things that you have heard onto the scientific world, that is where my problem comes in. With ignorance of scientific data and research comes ideas like “Intelligent Design,” the premise of FSMism.
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Tom, I don’t “believe” that “human beings evolved from primates,” I have come this conclusion based on overwhelming fossil, genetic, environmental, chemical, and archaeological evidence. Scientists have not concluded upon the DETAILS of human origins (i.e. the exact cladistic relationships between the robust australopithecines of South and East Africa, the Miocene origins of African apes, the earliest forms of stone tool technology); the premise of humans evolving from primates is universally accepted as true (among all mainstream academics, I’m not talking about “Answers in Genesis” Ph.Ds here).
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I’m totally open to giving you the details of how and why we have come to these conclusions. If you decide to lead a life of faith, please do so and I won’t bother you about it. If you try to say that I am wrong in the physical evidence that I have personally excavated and researched, then I will absolutely respond otherwise. Please, more questions, we can have a mature and intelligent dialogue!
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P.E.T.
if you don’t believe in God, how is He supposed to accept you in Heaven ? the only thing that he is asking is that you love Him and love the others. Now it’s your choice
Dale Scerri,
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I think you have missed the point of a lot of this. If there isn’t a god, then there isn’t a heaven to go to. Now, as I said, I have no problem with people believing whatever they want to unless it is pushed on me or is used as “evidence” against scientific data. So, please, believe what you want to believe and I will do the same. The thing I don’t understand is the notion that belief is good enough. What about action? If I don’t believe in god because he/she/it didn’t provide ANY evidence for themself but provided an unbelievable volume of evidence contrary to his/her/its own existence, but I lead a good, moral and humble life anyway, what is the problem here? Is this god going to smite me for eternity for leading a good life based on factual evidence that he/she/it provided for me? That doesn’t seem like a fair game to me.
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RAmen,
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P.E.T.
Geltown, Tom and now Dale,
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What’s the deal, guys?
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RAmen,
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P.E.T.
LOL. Everyone is sad. Especially the people who know which bits in the bible are which. However everyone on this website is not silly. Apart tom eyles he’s a nob
I’m with RAmen/P.E.T. on this one. I have absoloutly no problems with people having faith in things that don’t exist. Thats their perogative. My problem is when they try to force those beliefs into out politics and our schools. Didn’t the founding fathers of the US hope to create a nation free from religious bigotry that had infected the european governments? What happened there?
Wow!
Some people have said some very nice things about me. I’m actually touched. I haven’t been on for a wile because I can’t post from work anymore and spend my evening talking to Pam.
I have the energy to argue with these people because I hate to see lies sprouted about as the truth.
If I inspire anyone here to use a bit of logic and reasoning, regardless of which side of the debate you are on I consider it time well spent.
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Now for a little of what I do best!
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@ tom
“all i have to say is stop reigning on peoples parades. why do you have to go around crushing the beliefs of others.”
If those beliefs are crushed then they were never that strong in the first place.
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“is it beacause you do not have any of your own.”
I can’t answer for “P.E.T” but for me it’s because these lies (and we have shown them to be such) are dangerous to all humanity. Religion kills! That’s not some stupid proper gander; it’s a stone cold fact. More people have died directly or indirectly from the religious beliefs, and the rejection of the facts that goes with these beliefs, then anything else ever. Only religion can make a man feel so justified for doing something so wrong.
It’s still the great divider in the world. Something to hate each other for.
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“what is so wrong with people having faith in something that cannot be explained or seen.”
It prevents them from seeing the truth which might save their life and, as mentioned above, gives them more reason to hate and kill.
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“faith gives people purpose and hope for something good to come out of something bad like death.”
Without it, death would not seem so bad. The idea of heaven might give you something to look forward to when you die, but surly hell is something to fear. Would a suicide bomber blow himself up if he didn’t ‘believe’ paradise awaited him?
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“besides, where did the human race come from if there is no god and if you really believe that human beings evolved from the primates then you must be ignorant.”
No, to believe that means you looked at all the supporting evidence, not a bunch of disprove crap written in a self contradicting book.
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“ scientist themselves have not concluded the origin of mankind.”
Yes they have. Read some of the evidence and you would know that.
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“so stop with your scientific bullshit…”
Have to cut in mid sentence. Scientific theories go through testing and have to stand up to scrutiny. Religion refuses to face scrutiny and just…. Well does what you’re doing tom.
“ and actually think about the possibility of a super natural being that created all living and none living matter.”
And think about that being, being a ball of flying spaghetti tom. No do you see the point?
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@ Dale Scerri- “if you don’t believe in God, how is He supposed to accept you in Heaven ?”
Well see the problem there is you have to believe in heaven too?
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“the only thing that he is asking is that you love Him and love the others.”
Have you read the bible? God actually asks you to kill those of different belief. To tolerate him will bring his wrath! Look in ‘Judges’, its all there. If you don’t utilise complete genocide then god will bitch slap you.
If you want to argue a point at least have the decency to know what you are arguing for. You, Dale, are arguing for a genocidal, incest loving, tyrannical egomaniac.
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“Now it’s your choice”
Yes, and I chose reason.
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Nice to be back.
Hugs and kisses
Pluto
Hey Pluto,
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Nice to have you back. Thanks for the help, unfortunately, these guys find enough gusto to post their “opinions” but then can’t find the guts (logic?) to comment on ours. It’s an unrewarding world, but I simply find their lack of commentary as a waving white flag.
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I’m glad we could convince you guys (Geltown, Tom and Dale), so RAmen to you now that you’ve switched over to the Noodly side.
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P.E.T.
FSM called me this morning. He’s really upset ‘cos God hasn’t paid the rent this month. Does anybody have God’s bank account or credit card number? FSM is really upset…
@Pirates Evolve Too
It’s nice to be back.
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Well what can I say?
The strength of some people’s convictions is non-existence.
When you build a house out of a tissue of lies a weak breeze will blow it down. Built on bricks of logic it will always stand tall.
For all the ppl here I am quit young but I beleive in the holyness of God. And to those who beleive in evalution there is something I never got in my lessons. How could something be created of nothing. (ths is on how the earth egsists)
Most Holy FSM is kind, generous, loving, forgiving and delicious. His Noodly appendages have been nourishing his followers with succulent goodness and zest (with a hint of garlic) since the great victory against the Salami Beast in 3765 BC. The Most Holy FSM is willing to offer his children an eternal plate at the Pasta Bar; simply surrender and give yourself freely to our Noodly Protector, and you will savor in his omnipresent carbohydrates for all of eternity. For those who refuse to see and savor in his Noodly goodness, and for those who may deny his Glory, you will be tortured and burned for all of eternity. He has blessed you with free will, after all, so the choice is yours.
djb1001
in Response to this person “Tom”
I don’t believe you understand how often Christians come up to agnostics and atheists and tell them they’re going to go to hell unless they convert NOW. Unless they do what their religion says they will burn in hell. This is a little something I would distinguish as “raining on my parade.”
Christians have a form of explaining why they do the things they do such as Adam and Eve, the Crucifiction, Moses, etc, etc.
The FSM is merely a way to explain why Agnostics and Atheists believe what they think is real through the use of colorful and I hope true stories.
Why can you shove a pamphlet in my face and call it equal? Why can’t I shove a pamphlet in yours explaining why i believe what I believe? Ludacris.
And in all seriousness I think the FSM has spoken to me more in 3 days than God has spoken to me in 18 years.
And he told me pirates rode dinosaurs.
Go figure.
@Eliza
“How could something be created of nothing?”
And who created God? Or God came from nothing?
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And who created the creator of God?
and so on…
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Anyway, evolution is not about the origin of life, but about the variety of species in the natural world. So, you can’t apply your sentence here, because the universe, the sun, the earth and even life was yet existing.
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“ths is on how the earth egsists”
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As I have said, that’s not the matter of evolution, it’s called cosmolgy. More or less, there was a big and hot mass of gas that, as it was cooling, and by de effect of the gravity, condensed and formed the sun and the planets -you know, like earth. We can see now other stars forming this way
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You may wonder where this mass came from…well, probably it came from the explosion of an older star…that star was formed by a bigger amount of gas cooling… that gas came from the Big-Bang (a explosion that created the universe, space and time, but that theory has from far less evidence than evolution, at the moment)
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I hope His Noddly Master will enlighten you to become a rational adult person
RAmen
I believe that it is important to remember that Christianity imposes it’s ideas on the masses daily through it’s near monopolization of American culture. So many Christians who feel they are not “raining” are actually reigning so to speak. I love the FSM and embrace the clever way you are exposing the impositon of religion on many people who have no desire to share their version of truth
Eliza, the first thing you have to do is read a lot of books on various subjects. Often ones that have opposing viewpoints. Read the Bible from cover to cover. But don’t just read it, thinks about it. What is being said in this book? Study history from all sorts of different angles. The first commandment is “Thou shall not kill.” Then go and learn about the Spanish inquistion or the Crusades. Think about these things. You might change your mind on religion.
Another thing to consider is the big question, who made God? And you can’t say that God was always there because before the universe there was probably nothing.
Except raw pasta, uncooked ground beef, green tomatoes and spices waiting patiently to exist.
this is a response to Eliza….
I know that it is really hard to believe something came out of nothing….but
people who believe in God have the exact same problem. Who created God? Is it easier
to understand his origins than other explanations?
It’s never been properly explained to me why a omnipotent, benevolent god would require human belief in order to accept people into heaven. Seems a bit petty doesn’t it?
Even Santa kept bringing me presents for a coupla years after I busted his cover.
I think the gods must have low self esteem issues.