i am not sure if this is the right way to go about it. But i have been reading some stuff that has been in the hate mail. Now i am not here to write some more hate mail. at the moment i am quite impartial to what is the supreme being that i know is there, yet do not know what it is. My first point is that an athiest believes in no god what so ever, doesnt believe in any reason for being created. So therefore the creator of this site cannot be an athiest.
Second i dont see the point of abusing someone elses faith. Everyone is entitled to there own faith. Whether it is wrong completely or not at all may never be shown to us. The way that some of the posts have been done are that of a person who is only open to themselves. If you do not like the FLM there is no need for you too talk about it. you do not need to come back again and agian to try and slur its name. Once would be enough. to be honest what you remind me of is the crusades, you are trying to wipe anyway out of the way of what you think is right. Yet even your religious leader the pope apolagised for it. i am not having a go at christians as well. i am just trying to put a point of reason on the board.
i hope you will not see this as an attack on anyone. i wish you well with what you do in life
I’m just here to say I love Balls. But I only really love His Balls. I love His MeatBalls in my face, His Balls on my chest, His Balls all over every part of my body.
Your messages to the pastafarian people has been reached.
Not to mention the entire point of these religious beliefs. I love the irony of the hate mail section.
From Spaghetti Monster’s vantage
He could not reach Alan Sandage
With his Noodly Appendage
But It’s good enough for me.
Gimme that Old Time Religion (3 times)
It’s good enough for me.
Sandage, who calculated the first good value of the Hubble Constant, turned Christian later, claiming that the universe is too complicated to have arisen by chance.
This image… has 35000… and then 45000…
And the temperature went up. I think that this graph has been changed by the FSM, praise be to him, however, for the benefit of society we should change the graph to look some what intelligent. ;)
Could the creators of these wonderful brochures TWEAK some of the graphics for better reproduction on black and white copiers? Some areas appear too light even with darkness settings at maximum.I have been printing via network to a high end XEROX copier so I’m not losing resolution from scanning the original. All of the text seems to be fine EXCEPT within the pirates/global temperature graph and the visibility of his holiness as portrayed in the masterpiece “I Want To Believe” and “over the mountain with midget”. Under the best of circumstances, lighting allows for a reasonable level of readability, however most of my efforts towards conversion take place in poorly lit areas adjacent to strippers and beer.
Via Con Pasta
ÃŽ’m Mike, a 15 years old student from a “gymnasium”(highest possible education here) in Switzerland and I came across the FSM’s wikipedia article and i loved it. Here in Switzerland we have to attend religion as a school subject that counts as much as maths, physics and every other subject. Now we have to give a speech about the religion we feel is the right one. Because I don’t believe in a God who created the world and stuff, I’d like to have my speech about your “religion”. I’ve got only one problem, and that’s where I’d really appreciate your help: It has to be a half-an-hour-speech and i’m afraid i don’t have enough information about your parody-religion. If you could supply a little bit more information, I’d appreciate that. I know I should buy the Gospel, unfortunately it would take too long(and would be too expensive) to have it shipped from the U.S. and it’s not avaiable in Switzerland. So I hope you’ll help me give a fun speech about your religion, I’m sure I’d be able to convert some of my school-buddies…Because the FSM-theory is just as logical as everything being created by a supernatural power like let’s say….God…
Dear Mike,
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I’m not Bobby, but I read your post and have a question for you. Are you required to pick a religion or is atheism an option? Requiring you to pick a religion makes it sound as if deciding to reject all religion isn’t a reasonable choice.
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RAmen.
It’d be nice if there were .gif or .jpg files about 100×100 pixels, suitable for use as avatars in the online forums. Anybody know of a source for those?
I hope you get to read this, I can’t be on-line every day so i just saw your entry.
Anyway, I was talking to my teacher about this when I first got the idea to have my speech about the FSM(right after i got to this page) and he told me I could have it about atheism. And one topic of my speech will be “parody religions” and my exemple will be the Flying Spaghetti Monster” but I’d really appreciate a little more information to make it sound a little more “serious”, you know!?
What we really need are some FSM tracts to hand out with Halloween candy. The evangelicals will be handing out Jesus propaganda, we must fight back in the name of His Noodliness by presenting these young, malleable minds with the Truth!
Great idea, I’ll be handing out flyers for sure…:D But tell me, where are you from? Because here in Switzerland, no Jesus Propaganda’s being handed out…just curiosity…
This website is so interesting. I came upon it when I mentioned to a classmate I was doing a persuasive speech on the topic of evolution vs. creationism. I LOVE IT!!! Much like Mike, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE more information about FSM. I think it is my newlyfound religion!
This has to be the worse so called “church” yet. This is just an excuse for people that are lazy as hell and feel like “worshipping” there own way. You obviously don’t take yourselves seriously…or is that another one of your spaghetti mosters “traits.” Can’t you see that you’re taking a real set of religions and just placing a few ideals of “noodly” shit in its [there] place?!?! My god…and if that sorry excuse for a god really is you “supreme being,” I’m just gonna let you know that I just shit out your “supreme being” last night after I went to Fazolli’s…..
I feel sorry for you….
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But how can FSM be shit as it uses the same set of logic and beliefs that hold up Islam, Christianity and any of the other “supreme being” religions. By saying that this is shit you are effectively saying all them are shit too.
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…Either that or you are not using logic and intelligence? So which is it?
What we really need are some FSM tracts to hand out with Halloween candy. The evangelicals will be handing out Jesus propaganda, we must fight back in the name of His Noodliness by presenting these young, malleable minds with the Truth!
Best,
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That has to be one of the most hypocritical things I’ve seen in ages. You believe that evangelicals are screwing up the minds of kids, yet you wish to do it yourself just to make fun of evangelicals? You want to ruin our children so you can act stupid and not make any valid point?
Yep, why not! Why should all the God Botherers have all the fun! At least we don’t have a corpse on an execution device as our symbol! FSM is a symbol that all the kiddies & adults can enjoy in an uplifting way!
@ I feel sorry for you….
“……Can’t you see that you’re taking a real set of religions…….”
Could you please explain the term “real set of religions” ?? At least you had the idea to use the term “set of….” . However I do believe that term is an oxymoron! Yet another one!
“Davey lets face it if you believe in a supreme being you are probably not blessed with intelligence.”
Everything else aside, I take offense at this. I have seen the power of God in my life and the lives of the people around me. I know from experience that there is no such thing as coincidence. Even if you do not believe in God as such, if you will pay attention, you will see the synchronisity that runs our universe. Whether you believe that there is intelligence to it or not, there is an order to our universe that is undeniable.
To me, it is obviously clear that it is by intelligent design and not by happenstance. I have an IQ of well over 180. That’s called being “blessed with intelligence” in case you couldn’t otherwise tell. To completely ridicule someone else’s belief system and insult them for it is not only ignorant, but it’s also childish.
I see that the theory (note theory and not law) of evolution does have it’s points, but it is still full of holes. There are so many questions that evolution simply does not support. I don’t feel that I need to get into these right now, since I’m sure you’ve heard them before, but the fact of the matter is that it takes at least as much faith (if not more than) to believe in evolution than in creation. Evolution is in and of itself like a religion with its own religious hierarchy, symbols, and bigots. I’m not pointing any fingers here. I’m simply stating a fact.
I will also extend to you that we can all agree that the separation of church and state is a total and complete farce. On your end of it, you see the church trying to pry their way into the government and schools. On my end of it, I see the government trying it’s hardest to take the place of religion. I would like to see a true, clear and total split there that would not make a forum like this necessary. I don’t see that happening anytime soon, unfortunately.
In the meantime, I will pray for you and yours that you will at least learn respect and tolerance. In the best case scenario, you will learn the Truth, and the Truth will set you free. Until then, I’m sure that this message will earn me the brunt of your ridicule. It’s up to you, though. Will you prove me right or wrong? Sincerely, but not hatefully,
Come on someone - merchandise! I want FSM badges and FSM pack lunch boxes for the kids, I want everyone to know that I have been touched by the great noodly one!!
“WHERES YOUR GOD NOW?!?!? ”
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In FSM heaven worshipping at the great Noodly ones “feet” and drinking from one of the fabled beer volcanoes whilst enjoying the company of the strippers.
Considering an IQ of 165 is considered genious, Mr. Robot must be a FLIPPING GENIOUS — Or I might of thought that if I didn’t read his comments..
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“I know from experience that there is no such thing as coincidence.” -Robot Michael
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Are you kidding me? This must be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Of course there is such thing as coincidence.
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definition of coincidence  [koh-in-si-duhns]. ‘1. a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance’
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You’re telling us that if you woke up, and put on your pink Barney shirt, and so does some other idiot across city, you guys meeting wouldn’t be because you both COINCIDENTLY ran into each other?
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Imagine this, there are two 8-balls on a billiard table. All of the other balls are also on the table. So 16 balls all together with the extra 8-ball. If they all started moving on their own and bumping into the walls, balls will start hitting. Maybe the two 8-balls will collide very early. This would be something you morons consider a miracle. Either way, the two 8-balls will eventually collide. Idiot, next qoute.
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“Evolution is in and of itself like a religion with its own religious hierarchy, symbols, and bigots.”
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Maybe you should explain this to me. Since when was Evolution a religion, didn’t you just say it was a theory? When was the last time you learned about Evolution in school and then you were asked to donate money to the god of evidence? Scientists done go out and try to find new people to worship their theory of evolution, they teach it because of the vast amounts of observations and evidence they have to teach. Not because some old dead guy wrote a book about what they saw. I’m pretty sure there are symbols so we could remember what we were studying [for organization], not to worship. As far as bigots go, people are partial to their beliefs in evolution because you can’t prove that the evidence, bones, carbon samples, telescopes, phsyics [that actually exist] doesn’t exist. While we have already proven that it DOES.
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I’m not going to qoute anymore of your dumb reply because it’s all just a bunch of crap. I’ll end this comment with this.
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You people believe in god because you are afraid of death, because the thought of you being gone forever scares the living shit out of you. I predicting that eventually no one will believe in this religion because all it has caused is wars, and maybe some good deeds. I guess the only good thing about religion are the good things people do out of it. Still doesn’t mean it’s true. I hope you’re athiest now.
The second double sided brochure contains a spelling error, Nitrogen-14 is spelled Nitorgen-14. Unless this is a new substance created by the noodly appendage of our saucy master, I which case I humbly ask forgiveness.
@ Evyl Robot Michael-
Respect and tolerance? Because the Christian church is famous for respect and tolerance, right? Please. You don’t see the Pastafarians hate-mailing pastors and other church leaders.
May you be touched by his noodly appendage.
RAmen.
@Evyl Robot Michael–”I see that the theory (note theory and not law” –Do me a favor and look up the meaning of scientific theories, because I’m tired of explaining it every other day.
“In the best case scenario, you will learn the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.”–Oh yes, that’s tolorant right there. ‘If you’re real real lucky you’ll learn the TRUTH! Because my way is the only way!1111!!!one!’
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Please. The only absolute is that there are no absolutes, so stop acting like there are. (Ok, which famous dead guy said that…)
@Evyl Robot Michael-
There is no way in Pasta-Hell, that your could be IQ is 180. That isn’t even “blessed”. In 5th grade, I took an IQ test because the school system thought I was Autistic. My IQ was 146. That’s high enough to get into Mensa. If you were so fucking smart, you wouldn’t be spending your time here; No, you’ll be out teaching or getting a friggin’ Ph.D. Haven’t you ever heard that the smarter you are, the more atheist you get. Get a science book. Coincidences are real. God is not. FSM is.
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Oh, and as for holes in the evolution theory, it’s a given. We don’t know everything, but we will eventually. We just haven’t found the evidence yet. And it takes no faith to believe in evolution. It’s not a religion, IT’S FUCKING SCIENCE!
Did you hear about the thieves that stole a truck load of viagra? Police don’t have any suspects yet, but they’re on the look out for hardened criminals.
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ba dum bah!
@Evyl Robot Michael:
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I’m gonna help you out and re-write your post, correcting all the obvious errors so that you can see where you went wrong, ‘k?
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Here we go (corrections are in caps, pay attention!):
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“Everything else aside, I AM PETTY ENOUGH TO take offense at this. I AM DELUDED ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT I have seen the power of God in my life and the lives of the OTHER DELUDED people around me. I CAN CONVINCE MYSDELF THAT I know from experience that there is no such thing as coincidence, SO THAT I CAN TELL MYSELF THAT GOD DID IT. Even if you do not believe in God as such, if you will pay attention, you will see the ALLEGED synchronisity that runs our universe, WHICH I SUPPOSE SCIENTISTS HAVE BETTER EXPLANATIONS FOR
@ DJH - [Round of applause]
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It is amazing the sheer *arrogance* that people use religion to justify. It’s one thing to get your wish-fulfilment at the movies, but its another to set yourself up as some kind of Superman/Gandalf and claim it all stems from God’s Divine Will.
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First it’s the ‘cleverer than thou’ attitude:
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‘I have an IQ of well over 180.’
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So many visitors here who are so keen to convince us that they are intellectually the end result of some weird in-vitro experiment involving Einstein and Stephen Hawking. And then they move on to slightly mad stuff, like this:
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‘In the meantime, I will pray for you and yours that you will at least learn respect and tolerance.’
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It’s like, as well as convincing themselves that they are more intelligent than *everyone* else, they also have to believe that they have some magical ability to affect events from afar. Religion legitimises special X-Men powers under the name of prayer. Evyl Robot Michael, a word of warning: let this go before you end up praying for cakes not to rise. We’ve seen it before, and it ain’t pretty.
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And lastly this:
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‘Until then, I’m sure that this message will earn me the brunt of your ridicule. It’s up to you, though. Will you prove me right or wrong?’
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Or ‘Not only am I a GENIUS, who has MAGIC DIVINE POWERS OF PRAYER, but I can also SEE THE FUTURE’. Yes, well done. I’ll try one on you, shall I? I predict that you will take all of these responses with a pinch of salt and carry on believing in god. Well, now, you wouldn’t want to *prove* my powers of prediction, would you?
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So you correctly anticipate ridicule. Congratulations. As long as you keep saying ridiculous things, I’m happy to keep proving you right.
Wow! I suppose I should be flattered! You know, I expected a response from that, but I had no idea whatsoever that I would get you guys going for nearly a month about it. Seriously though, I meant no offense. I’m terribly sorry that some of you were offended by my words. When I say that I will pray for you, it is a blessing and not a curse. When I say that I have seen the power of God in my life, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there. When I say that I don’t believe in coincidence, I mean that there is no mere chance. Yes, I’m familiar with Mensa. I have my personal opinions about letters after names that are neither here nor there. My comment about intelligence was not indeed to belittle anyone in this forum, but rather to illustrate the fallacy in the comment, “Davey lets face it if you believe in a supreme being you are probably not blessed with intelligence.” which was intolerant and offensive. Furthermore, I would prefer to post for myself and not have my posts “corrected.” I would love to have a respectful dialog here in which you do not automatically assume that I am belittling you, and you in turn do not attempt to belittle me. I hope this is possible.
It is not possible when you continue to say idiotic things like “I don’t believe in coincidence, I mean that there is no mere chance.” It is hard to have a conversation with someone so obviously out of touch with how the real world works.
Michael,
The very existence of religious belief, and the nonsense that you people believe in, your continuing insistence that everyone should think as badly as yourselves, your insistence that you will “pray” for us (I would rather you spat in my face, frankly) belittles all of humanity. Evolve. Grow up. Stop being such bloody children and take responsibility for yourselves, you bloody shambles.
Evyl Robot Michael,
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I agree with you in taking offense to Davey’s statement. There are intelligent people that believe in any number of religions. Although there is a proven correlation between education and atheism, that should not be taken to mean that anyone that believes in a religion is not intelligent. I take it to mean that religion does not stand up well when people are exposed to alternate viewpoints and critical thinking.
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I am pleased to see that we both believe in the power of prayer. I will pray to His Noodly Greatness that you will be delivered from the clutches of your false god and brought to the Great Table of Truth. I hope that did not offend you. My prayers are a blessing, not a curse. Get the point?
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I recommed you find some new arguments. The points you made are overused and will not fly in this forum. Bringing them here demonstrates a lack of research on the topic. The “It is true because I believe” or “My belief fills me with joy” argument is no argument at all. Think of it this way. (paraphrasing Sam Harris) If I believe that there is a diamond the size of volkswagon in my back yard, I will be ecstatic and start shovelling away with zeal. It doesn’t matter if there is a diamond. So long as I believe it is there, I will be happy. A better statement would be to simply say “I believe in XYZ because it works for me.”
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Also, let’s try to avoid the “evolution is a ‘theory’” and “God of gaps” arguments. The scientific use of the word ‘theory’ is not the same as in common conversation. Of course there are gaps in the evidence for evolution. There always will be. Science is a contiuous process to fill in the gaps, but there will always be gaps. Despite this, there is a mountain of evidence that fits the theory of evolution. Someone with your IQ should be above these cheap and weak tactics.
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Finally, synchronicity. This one dumbfounds me more than anything else you said. Synchronicity is nothing more than then the tendency of the human brain to find patterns. It is simply how our mind works. Synchronicity is not much removed from horoscopes and fortune cookies. The mind will see meaning where there is none if we want it to.
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OEJ
I also want to congratulate you, Michael, on your choice of username. Evyl Robot is indeed the case. It seems you have overdosed on the opiate of the masses.
@ Evyl Robot Michael
‘When I say that I have seen the power of God in my life, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there.’
I was wondering what you meant by that. ‘unless you had been there.’ unless I had seen the power of God? Or unless I at one time thought myself ’saved’?
I know what it is like, I was brought up Lutheran, and was a good little church-goer for most of my life. However, after learning a few things, I began to see the holes in everything that I was taught about God. Now, I am happier than I ever was when I was ’saved’. I don’t feel condemned if I do just one tiny thing wrong. I don’t feel guilty or evil for doing something that humans are bound to do anyway.
While I appreciate that you have found something you can believe in, I would also appreciate it if you didn’t make such broad genralizations about what others supposidly don’t understand.
I’m just saying that I’ve been there, and it wasn’t for me.
*a-hem*
I’ll happily stand by any offense that I’ve caused with my own words, as you know, but in this instance the offending sentence wasn’t one of mine, it was a comment directed to me, hence “Davey” being the first word in the sentence.
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I agree you don’t have to be stupid to be religious, and, conversely, you don’t have to be smart to be an atheist. Intelligence and belief don’t correlate that well, or that easily. However, a lot of otherwise perfectly intelligent and sane people do end up believing the most outrageous nonsense as a result of organised religion’s conditioning of them (usually as children), which I think is a shame. It’s one of the many things I find intolerable about religion - it makes fools out of perfectly decent people.
@Mike:
‘When I say that I have seen the power of God in my life, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there.’
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I’ll paraphrase a comment I’ve already made on another thread:
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When I say that my life was changed by reading Carl Sagan’s “Cosmos”, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there.
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The thing is, Mike, I wouldn’t *expect* you to be there. I don’t *need* you to be there. I have no desire to evangelise or pray to *force* you to be there..
You should read it, anyway, just so’s you know the glory can exist without having to believe in ghosts.
Shit Bobby we’ve now got the ID lot in the uk (website attached)!
I’d very much like as much support as possible. Maybe fellow pastafari’s could mail the truth in science people and ask them help promote FSM as well as ID in UK schools. I’d very much apprieciate the lobbying potential of his noodly apendage
Regards Andy Collins
PS sorry i posted here, but could’nt find any other way of contacting you!
Let’s list all those we consider idiots for believing in God:
William Shakespeare
C.S. Lewis
Martin Luther King jr.
Bill Clinton
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Regan
Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Christopher Columbus
Isaac Newton
Louis Pasteur
Johnny Cash
Elvis Presley
Jeff Gordon
John Woo
Robert Duvall
Dalai Lama
Richard Gere
Nelson A. Rockefeller
Hugo L. Black
John D. MacArthur
Cornel West
John Grisham
Wait - are we listing Jewish people too or Just Christians we think are stupid? Someone else needs to take over writing this list - I am getting tied.
What a list of fools. When will they all learn to worship the His Noodly appendages?
I’m pretty sure that the Dalai Lama is a Buddhist and therefore an atheist. Also if I were attempting to make the faithful of the world look good I wouldn’t admit to Ronald Reagan, Christopher Columbus, or Nelson A. Rockefeller. And finally we might enjoy the work of famous musicians and actors and such that doesn’t make them intelligent or legitimise their religious views.
P.S. - C.S. Lewis is just a Tolkien wanna’ be.
Praise the pasta
RAmen
not fools, just misled.
and by the way, it would be somewhere in the trillions.
we don’t generally consider people fools for believing in other religions, just for blindly following them. an open mind is always welcome.
I don’t know the Dalai Lama but I do know the Llama Song. I’m pretty good at -’Jesus can’t play rugby’ - as well!
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Sorry - absolutely nothing of relevance to add to this thread. Just felt left out and wanted to contribute (^_^ - like it)
I am just trying to make sure I understand which aspects of people’s believe in God we find so abhorrent. My former friends tell me that I “hate Jesus†and tell me stories of their God’s greatness and love and all the many people who have found peace and salvation through their believe. I try to explain all the evil that has been done in the name of their God and all the intolerance I have seen in people who claim to be pious. The seem to think that people have the capacity to be evil and intolerance no matter what they believe. I have been touched by His noodly goodness and they think I am crazy.
I run a Pastafarian congregation in the town of North Woods and we run a small “School of the Devine Noodle†for grades k-12. We also have a small and fledgling Pirate Militia willing to sacrifice for the great doughy stringy one.
Johnny Corvette, Enlighten leader of the First Fundamentalist Pastafarian Congregation of the North Woods.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there Johnny. Most genocides have been committed in the name of .
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I suspect most folks on this site would get on with Jesus. The thing is - we are here - he isn’t!
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I feel for you -you said ‘your former friends’. Sorry for that. I’ve also lost friends because of my evil ways. Some were quite nice.
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As to peoples belief in god. I speak for myself here. I really don’t care what others believe in - non of my business. I just wish they would do the same.
RAmen
Penne - you’re making me blush.
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Do as thou wilt (my spelling, grin) that’ll get the buggers biting. (not a Satanist myself. It’s an interesting pastime but I can’t ever see me sacrificing things- (although my ex girlfriend - hmm - no,no,no - I will not think bad thoughts.)
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I always thought genesis was allegorical! What happened to the nephilim ( not the 80s band but the big bad things that ate christians .
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This has got to be one of my most irrelevant posts ever. Wibble, wibble.
@Gnocci Man: “by the way, it would be somewhere in the trillions”.
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A trillion is 10 to the power of 12 (E+12, for short, or 1 followed by 12 0’s). A sensible guess as to the number of people who have ever lived is 106 billion (one tenth of a trillion) .. details here: http://www.prb.org/Template.cfm?Section=PRB&template=/Content/ContentGroups/02_Articles/0ct-Dec02/How_Many_People_Have_Ever_Lived_on_Earth_.htm
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My apologies .. I’ve been getting pamphlets from the First Church of Pedantology. It’s very tempting; they have 12 Apostrophes and everything. Must be strong .. beer, strippers, beer, strippers.
One Oared Marc - for some reason I’m singing “Strange Kind of Woman”. For the past three days - aargh. It’s a good song my sweet child in time -(gulp) oh for fsm’s sake - Nurse - pass me the Tori Amos - stat.
Ahhahahaha!
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I went to my brothers wearing my custom FSM shirt. He quickly asked me what it means so I told him and showed him this website. Later we went out and got drunk and he said to his friends “Hey, you see this shirt, FSM stands for the flying spaghetti monster as he’s part of some weird religion called Pastafarism” I told them it was a lie and he’d made it up on the spot as he’s a born liar. Strangely, they believed me.
ode to the wonders of cheap, noodly, college food that reminds us, everytime we we stumble home from the party and need something quick to eat, that we were created by FSM.
Today marks my 10th attempt to submit materials to you over the past two months. I have used both your automated system and attachments. I do not understand why I have not received a response. Are you getting the messages?
If the materials are not up to your standards, if you could send a short response to that effect, it would be the courteous thing to do.
The desktop images have been uploaded again. The musical piece can be found here:
My parents just put an angel on top of their Xmas tree. It is with great frustration that I am unable to buy an FSM substitute. Please correct this matter. Xmas would be much easier to tolerate if I could look up at the tree and see noodly appendages instead of a god damn angel.
Since the Seattle Airport caved in and allowed Christmas trees to be displayed in their lobby, is there any chance of us getting a beer volcano? I think there is an equal time issue here…
Ok…. Some of these people crack me up. If you think that this website was created by a cult of robe wearing pasta believers…praising the Oh holy Carb Grail by the bowls filled… you are the same people that this website is mocking. So if you don’t get it, then just accept the fact that you are the “mockee†You know, the ones that believe the many tales presented in organized religion as face value. This site was created to “mock” the whole idea of religion itself. A religious satire if you will.
If you believe that someone actually walked on water and that some gold statue smited an entire army dead in one single holy swoop or that some old dude built this giant arc and had every freaking animal in harmony board the thing and play Gilligan’s Island…etc etc… then there is no reason why you can’t accept a giant ball of flying spaghetti into your life.
What’s the difference?
You say tomato I say tomato…Same Shit.
This site is hilarious.
If one were intelligent, one would see the humor in it. If one were intelligent, one would see what exactly this site is mocking and pointing out. If one were intelligent, one would not rant and F-ing Rave about how the pasta cult needs to read a self-help religion book and find “God” and state such intelligent statements such as “the creator of this site cannot be Atheist if he believes in FSM”. Duh. That’s exactly it! Who would have thought? Oh yeah, I’m acting as if religious fanatics and advent bible goers are, you know… Ok you get my drift.
If you don’t, then just don’t try to. You may hurt yourself. I don’t want to shake your faith.
If they were intelligent they would
(A) Look at history and science and stop being so god damn ignorant
(b) Understand the purpose of this ingenious website
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(c) Believe in the Holy Almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster!
So help my unpeeled garlic leaves!
Let the High Holy Pasta God himself Smite thee in your religious stupidity!
long winded wankery.
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You can always tell someone with no real argument because they produce long reams of tripe with poorly thought out arguments hidden in long, ambiguous, generally meaningless statements that abound throughout that whole thing (I’ve read maybe a page and got bored).
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I’ve noticed that dawkins is much more to the point, makes watertight arguments explained in such a way that a total moron could understand them and yet he still gets people like this monk making irrelevant points that have been fully and decisively covered in the book.
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I’ve read some point that I think the monk was trying to make about dawkins being arrogant, which is pretty rich coming from a monk writing as if he were god in the first person and who seems to believe that he has the absolute truth about everything, ever and it’s Christianity! He also reads bits of the book and then carefully omits bits to make it seem that it was not addressed in the book, which is quite dishonest and basically the same thing as lying. Undoubtedly he wouldn’t see it that way as it doesn’t say, word for word “ye shall not deliberately miss-quote to make an argument that is not actually valid”
I’ve noticed that opponents of the FSM, bless His noodles, do not use punctuation very often. This observation may lead to the discovery of another trend related to the FSM: The frequency of proper punctuation usage on posts as it relates to belief in the FSM. Also, they ridicule the idea that a Flying Spaghetti Monster could have created the Universe, because, as they say, “How could a Flying Spaghetti Monster exist before anything existed?”
How could their deity exist before anything existed?
Brilliant!
I am religious but this is just brilliant in terms of getting religious fanatics from various religions to see that zealots exist everywhere. Science must be kept pure until we can (and i belive eventually we will) prove the existence of “god” (or some sort of overseeing being). Intelligent design is a farce and (ironically) I pray that its kept away from kids.
Religion has killed millions for thousands of years. Sometimes I wonder if the world would be safer without religion. Kudos to FSM for trying to get ppl to see the stupidity of our beliefs.
Religion has its place to bring order to society. It has become increasingly confrontational now that various religions are meeting geographically.
What do you think god thinks of us? We are bigoted against ppl that dont think or look like us. Do bible-thumping, holier-than-thou individuals make god proud of us?
Over the years religion has been used to justify slavery in the west, the spanish inquisition, war in the middle east, female subordination, bigotry, the KKK & its brother Al Qaeda.
Welcome Dr G.
Stick around, I think you may like it here.
Just don’t go to heavy on your god thing. I’m happy that you believe in a god. As are most in the CoFSM. But we really don’t want to here about your god.
Ours is a beer loving, stripper loving monster god.
(Good monster) But he’s as real as the god you have in mind.
Ramen
@The atheist revolutionary Jan 3rd, 2007 at 4:33 am
“I took some prints of FSM wallpapers and flyers on the door of my local church at night”
Isn’t that a bit of a cheat way to get hatemail though?
Oh well, brace for the influx folks. Wonder if they know how to use the net?
Just come across your site. I heard of a similar theory going called “The Magic Purple Rhino” (i.e. you can’t stop me believing that a magic purple rhino is stood behind me)
I am a little concerned about your religion. I think you have approached this in a very slap-dash way. How will you deal with the fundamental beliefs that will arise (probably in Italy) as the long downtrodden pasta peasants find out how much it is needed in other countries. Pizza emporiums will be bombed. The price of pasta will go through the roof, and George Bush will be forced to go on another “holy war” to liberate the oppressed pasta-producing countries of the world (to secure the pasta for himself). Before you know it, there will be wars (jihad) over who invented pasta (italians or chinese?) I think this kind of thing needs clearing up right now before you have an ecumenical crisis.
I am available for mediation services if required!!!!
Hi there Rich and welcome to the fold. You raise some interesting questions. How will we deal with fundamental beliefs in Italy? Probably take the piss out of them.
George Bush - take the piss out of him.
Holy war - take the …well.
Who invented pasta? No one, He invented us! (Probably as a piss take)
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Once again welcome (word of advice TheLaughingMan loves it when you honour him by using his real name - Daffodil.)
Oh great. Just when I was starting to get some sleep again :) Topix.net, never been there before, ignored all your posts about it, and then you post a link. You utter ********. “.. Christians are hypocrites! ..No, you’re a hypocrite for calling christians hypocrites ..etc”
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I think I could have some fun there!
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Thanks Peter
Ah yes Alchemist.
You found one of the hippocrate threads?
Those folks (the good christian ones) Know my ISP addy over there, and they never respond to me anymore. Breaks my f***king heart! It does! However, it doesn’t stop me from telling them the important things in life.
It’s a blast!
I’m not game to go over there just yet. I have to read all this paperwork to read and, as usual, the forums have distracted me into a state of tardiness. Plus, My stomach is still a little uneasy from the pseudo science forums. Will wait til it settles a bit before I let myself be faced with more snake oil sellers.
Have bookmarked your link though, sounds like fun.
RAmen
Hahaha. Well, thanks to you I’ve only gone and registered. I be Erinyes over there, some other bugger’s got alchemist :(. Going to lurk and learn for a while before I start to play :)
you people are such assholes. I will make sure you all burn in hell. you fucking morons!
how dare you talk about me? the only real GOD and you equate me to pasta?
What The Fuck? Fucking Retards! you Retards will pay!
@GOD Jan 4th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
“fuck you what do you know I am GOD!!!!!!!!! I know”
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Well you aren’t the real God, the FSM, so which pseudo god are you? Are you one of the invisble ones?
@Jingles Jan 4th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
“Maybe he just wants a shoe?”
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Hi Jingles
Could be. I wonder how many feet it has? Maybe it has an extra foot instead of a brain? (keeping with the creation version of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics)
Propaganda?
It’s only Propaganda if you can’t back it up!
LOL
-NM
luving it
i am not sure if this is the right way to go about it. But i have been reading some stuff that has been in the hate mail. Now i am not here to write some more hate mail. at the moment i am quite impartial to what is the supreme being that i know is there, yet do not know what it is. My first point is that an athiest believes in no god what so ever, doesnt believe in any reason for being created. So therefore the creator of this site cannot be an athiest.
Second i dont see the point of abusing someone elses faith. Everyone is entitled to there own faith. Whether it is wrong completely or not at all may never be shown to us. The way that some of the posts have been done are that of a person who is only open to themselves. If you do not like the FLM there is no need for you too talk about it. you do not need to come back again and agian to try and slur its name. Once would be enough. to be honest what you remind me of is the crusades, you are trying to wipe anyway out of the way of what you think is right. Yet even your religious leader the pope apolagised for it. i am not having a go at christians as well. i am just trying to put a point of reason on the board.
i hope you will not see this as an attack on anyone. i wish you well with what you do in life
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I’m just here to say I love Balls. But I only really love His Balls. I love His MeatBalls in my face, His Balls on my chest, His Balls all over every part of my body.
Faith Through His Balls
hey, I have been touched by the noodly appendage. He’s got BIG balls!
C-ya
capn col
Your messages to the pastafarian people has been reached.
Not to mention the entire point of these religious beliefs. I love the irony of the hate mail section.
I am of love informationing pamphlets! Propoganda no lie us! Praise for love am God!
New verse for “Old Time Religion”
(cf. Astarte, Chthulhu, and other verses at sites such as
http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiOLTIMR2;ttOLTIMREL.html)
From Spaghetti Monster’s vantage
He could not reach Alan Sandage
With his Noodly Appendage
But It’s good enough for me.
Gimme that Old Time Religion (3 times)
It’s good enough for me.
Sandage, who calculated the first good value of the Hubble Constant, turned Christian later, claiming that the universe is too complicated to have arisen by chance.
Sorry, that should be
With It’s Noodly Appendage.
http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.jpg
This image… has 35000… and then 45000…
And the temperature went up. I think that this graph has been changed by the FSM, praise be to him, however, for the benefit of society we should change the graph to look some what intelligent. ;)
Hi
Are there any plans to produce greetings cards for believers to send to each other in time for this winter’s soltice?
Regards
Will
Sorry “solstice”
What we really need is a good FSM Christmas tree topper. I’m working on one now but I’m a mediocre sculpture at best.
love the materials. how about an AIM compatible buddy icon
Could the creators of these wonderful brochures TWEAK some of the graphics for better reproduction on black and white copiers? Some areas appear too light even with darkness settings at maximum.I have been printing via network to a high end XEROX copier so I’m not losing resolution from scanning the original. All of the text seems to be fine EXCEPT within the pirates/global temperature graph and the visibility of his holiness as portrayed in the masterpiece “I Want To Believe” and “over the mountain with midget”. Under the best of circumstances, lighting allows for a reasonable level of readability, however most of my efforts towards conversion take place in poorly lit areas adjacent to strippers and beer.
Via Con Pasta
Dear Mr. Henderson,
ÃŽ’m Mike, a 15 years old student from a “gymnasium”(highest possible education here) in Switzerland and I came across the FSM’s wikipedia article and i loved it. Here in Switzerland we have to attend religion as a school subject that counts as much as maths, physics and every other subject. Now we have to give a speech about the religion we feel is the right one. Because I don’t believe in a God who created the world and stuff, I’d like to have my speech about your “religion”. I’ve got only one problem, and that’s where I’d really appreciate your help: It has to be a half-an-hour-speech and i’m afraid i don’t have enough information about your parody-religion. If you could supply a little bit more information, I’d appreciate that. I know I should buy the Gospel, unfortunately it would take too long(and would be too expensive) to have it shipped from the U.S. and it’s not avaiable in Switzerland. So I hope you’ll help me give a fun speech about your religion, I’m sure I’d be able to convert some of my school-buddies…Because the FSM-theory is just as logical as everything being created by a supernatural power like let’s say….God…
Sincerly yours,
Mike, Switzerland
Dear Mike,
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I’m not Bobby, but I read your post and have a question for you. Are you required to pick a religion or is atheism an option? Requiring you to pick a religion makes it sound as if deciding to reject all religion isn’t a reasonable choice.
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RAmen.
It’d be nice if there were .gif or .jpg files about 100×100 pixels, suitable for use as avatars in the online forums. Anybody know of a source for those?
Ooohhh, I want to be Britney Spears!
Dear RAmen
I hope you get to read this, I can’t be on-line every day so i just saw your entry.
Anyway, I was talking to my teacher about this when I first got the idea to have my speech about the FSM(right after i got to this page) and he told me I could have it about atheism. And one topic of my speech will be “parody religions” and my exemple will be the Flying Spaghetti Monster” but I’d really appreciate a little more information to make it sound a little more “serious”, you know!?
Mike
Mike,
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I think you can find all you need to know about FSM online. First, explore this site, especially the letter to the Kansas School Board by Bobby Henderson http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ Look at the Wikipedia entries for “Flying Spaghetti Monster”, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster and “Eight I’d Really Rather You Didn’ts” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gospel_of_the_Flying_Spaghetti_Monster#The_Eight_.22I.27d_Really_Rather_You_Didn.27ts.22
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Those three sources will tell you almost as much about FSM and Pastafarians as the Gospel will. By the way, RAmen is not my name. It is a Pastafarian practice to sometimes end discussions by combining “Amen” and “Ramen” (as in Ramen noodles). Good luck!
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RAmen.
Okay, thanks a lot, I’ll post the mark i got for that speech here if i don’t forget it…
Again, thanks…
Mike
Mike,
What we really need are some FSM tracts to hand out with Halloween candy. The evangelicals will be handing out Jesus propaganda, we must fight back in the name of His Noodliness by presenting these young, malleable minds with the Truth!
Best,
D
Can we have one of those little dancing dashboard thingys of FSM?
Or maybe like the Garfields with suction caps for inside car window?
D,
Great idea, I’ll be handing out flyers for sure…:D But tell me, where are you from? Because here in Switzerland, no Jesus Propaganda’s being handed out…just curiosity…
Mike
Guys,
This website is so interesting. I came upon it when I mentioned to a classmate I was doing a persuasive speech on the topic of evolution vs. creationism. I LOVE IT!!! Much like Mike, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE more information about FSM. I think it is my newlyfound religion!
This has to be the worse so called “church” yet. This is just an excuse for people that are lazy as hell and feel like “worshipping” there own way. You obviously don’t take yourselves seriously…or is that another one of your spaghetti mosters “traits.” Can’t you see that you’re taking a real set of religions and just placing a few ideals of “noodly” shit in its [there] place?!?! My god…and if that sorry excuse for a god really is you “supreme being,” I’m just gonna let you know that I just shit out your “supreme being” last night after I went to Fazolli’s…..
I feel sorry for you….
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But how can FSM be shit as it uses the same set of logic and beliefs that hold up Islam, Christianity and any of the other “supreme being” religions. By saying that this is shit you are effectively saying all them are shit too.
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…Either that or you are not using logic and intelligence? So which is it?
Hmm… somebody missed the point (again).
Davey lets face it if you believe in a supreme being you are probably not blessed with intelligence.
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Mike,
What we really need are some FSM tracts to hand out with Halloween candy. The evangelicals will be handing out Jesus propaganda, we must fight back in the name of His Noodliness by presenting these young, malleable minds with the Truth!
Best,
D”
That has to be one of the most hypocritical things I’ve seen in ages. You believe that evangelicals are screwing up the minds of kids, yet you wish to do it yourself just to make fun of evangelicals? You want to ruin our children so you can act stupid and not make any valid point?
Yep, why not! Why should all the God Botherers have all the fun! At least we don’t have a corpse on an execution device as our symbol! FSM is a symbol that all the kiddies & adults can enjoy in an uplifting way!
@ I feel sorry for you….
“……Can’t you see that you’re taking a real set of religions…….”
Could you please explain the term “real set of religions” ?? At least you had the idea to use the term “set of….” . However I do believe that term is an oxymoron! Yet another one!
“Davey lets face it if you believe in a supreme being you are probably not blessed with intelligence.”
Everything else aside, I take offense at this. I have seen the power of God in my life and the lives of the people around me. I know from experience that there is no such thing as coincidence. Even if you do not believe in God as such, if you will pay attention, you will see the synchronisity that runs our universe. Whether you believe that there is intelligence to it or not, there is an order to our universe that is undeniable.
To me, it is obviously clear that it is by intelligent design and not by happenstance. I have an IQ of well over 180. That’s called being “blessed with intelligence” in case you couldn’t otherwise tell. To completely ridicule someone else’s belief system and insult them for it is not only ignorant, but it’s also childish.
I see that the theory (note theory and not law) of evolution does have it’s points, but it is still full of holes. There are so many questions that evolution simply does not support. I don’t feel that I need to get into these right now, since I’m sure you’ve heard them before, but the fact of the matter is that it takes at least as much faith (if not more than) to believe in evolution than in creation. Evolution is in and of itself like a religion with its own religious hierarchy, symbols, and bigots. I’m not pointing any fingers here. I’m simply stating a fact.
I will also extend to you that we can all agree that the separation of church and state is a total and complete farce. On your end of it, you see the church trying to pry their way into the government and schools. On my end of it, I see the government trying it’s hardest to take the place of religion. I would like to see a true, clear and total split there that would not make a forum like this necessary. I don’t see that happening anytime soon, unfortunately.
In the meantime, I will pray for you and yours that you will at least learn respect and tolerance. In the best case scenario, you will learn the Truth, and the Truth will set you free. Until then, I’m sure that this message will earn me the brunt of your ridicule. It’s up to you, though. Will you prove me right or wrong? Sincerely, but not hatefully,
Michael
I mean come on…
who wouldnt want to join a religion that has
1. A flying spaghetti monster as a ruler
2. Pirates as a main focus
3. Beer volcanoes
4. Stripper factories
jeeze i mean come on…
what does any other religion have to offer thats better than that?!?!
WHERES YOUR GOD NOW?!?!?
Come on someone - merchandise! I want FSM badges and FSM pack lunch boxes for the kids, I want everyone to know that I have been touched by the great noodly one!!
“WHERES YOUR GOD NOW?!?!? ”
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In FSM heaven worshipping at the great Noodly ones “feet” and drinking from one of the fabled beer volcanoes whilst enjoying the company of the strippers.
he sent his only child, chef boyardee, to suffer for our sins.
I can only get one of the brochures to line up correctly for folding. Any tips?
Considering an IQ of 165 is considered genious, Mr. Robot must be a FLIPPING GENIOUS — Or I might of thought that if I didn’t read his comments..
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“I know from experience that there is no such thing as coincidence.” -Robot Michael
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Are you kidding me? This must be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Of course there is such thing as coincidence.
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definition of coincidence  [koh-in-si-duhns]. ‘1. a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance’
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You’re telling us that if you woke up, and put on your pink Barney shirt, and so does some other idiot across city, you guys meeting wouldn’t be because you both COINCIDENTLY ran into each other?
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Imagine this, there are two 8-balls on a billiard table. All of the other balls are also on the table. So 16 balls all together with the extra 8-ball. If they all started moving on their own and bumping into the walls, balls will start hitting. Maybe the two 8-balls will collide very early. This would be something you morons consider a miracle. Either way, the two 8-balls will eventually collide. Idiot, next qoute.
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“Evolution is in and of itself like a religion with its own religious hierarchy, symbols, and bigots.”
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Maybe you should explain this to me. Since when was Evolution a religion, didn’t you just say it was a theory? When was the last time you learned about Evolution in school and then you were asked to donate money to the god of evidence? Scientists done go out and try to find new people to worship their theory of evolution, they teach it because of the vast amounts of observations and evidence they have to teach. Not because some old dead guy wrote a book about what they saw. I’m pretty sure there are symbols so we could remember what we were studying [for organization], not to worship. As far as bigots go, people are partial to their beliefs in evolution because you can’t prove that the evidence, bones, carbon samples, telescopes, phsyics [that actually exist] doesn’t exist. While we have already proven that it DOES.
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I’m not going to qoute anymore of your dumb reply because it’s all just a bunch of crap. I’ll end this comment with this.
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You people believe in god because you are afraid of death, because the thought of you being gone forever scares the living shit out of you. I predicting that eventually no one will believe in this religion because all it has caused is wars, and maybe some good deeds. I guess the only good thing about religion are the good things people do out of it. Still doesn’t mean it’s true. I hope you’re athiest now.
I love the image that mixes the FSM with DNA. Talk about “The Selfish FSM”!!
The second double sided brochure contains a spelling error, Nitrogen-14 is spelled Nitorgen-14. Unless this is a new substance created by the noodly appendage of our saucy master, I which case I humbly ask forgiveness.
nice im going to spread the word at my school!!!!!! and tis not propaganda tis truth
@ Evyl Robot Michael-
Respect and tolerance? Because the Christian church is famous for respect and tolerance, right? Please. You don’t see the Pastafarians hate-mailing pastors and other church leaders.
May you be touched by his noodly appendage.
RAmen.
@Evyl Robot Michael–”I see that the theory (note theory and not law” –Do me a favor and look up the meaning of scientific theories, because I’m tired of explaining it every other day.
“In the best case scenario, you will learn the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.”–Oh yes, that’s tolorant right there. ‘If you’re real real lucky you’ll learn the TRUTH! Because my way is the only way!1111!!!one!’
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Please. The only absolute is that there are no absolutes, so stop acting like there are. (Ok, which famous dead guy said that…)
@Evyl Robot Michael-
There is no way in Pasta-Hell, that your could be IQ is 180. That isn’t even “blessed”. In 5th grade, I took an IQ test because the school system thought I was Autistic. My IQ was 146. That’s high enough to get into Mensa. If you were so fucking smart, you wouldn’t be spending your time here; No, you’ll be out teaching or getting a friggin’ Ph.D. Haven’t you ever heard that the smarter you are, the more atheist you get. Get a science book. Coincidences are real. God is not. FSM is.
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Oh, and as for holes in the evolution theory, it’s a given. We don’t know everything, but we will eventually. We just haven’t found the evidence yet. And it takes no faith to believe in evolution. It’s not a religion, IT’S FUCKING SCIENCE!
Hi Eric
Just read your long comment on Michael had to say and I loved it…Just wanted to say that…
Mike, Switzerland
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I’m not saying that you are a dick, but is it true that when you eat viagra you get taller?
Did you hear about the thieves that stole a truck load of viagra? Police don’t have any suspects yet, but they’re on the look out for hardened criminals.
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ba dum bah!
Good one OEJ!
RAmen
Have a look at a few viral and bacterial mutations too leucine, it might help with the big picture.
RAmen
My above comment was posted in this thread by mistake.
RAmen
@Evyl Robot Michael:
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I’m gonna help you out and re-write your post, correcting all the obvious errors so that you can see where you went wrong, ‘k?
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Here we go (corrections are in caps, pay attention!):
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“Everything else aside, I AM PETTY ENOUGH TO take offense at this. I AM DELUDED ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT I have seen the power of God in my life and the lives of the OTHER DELUDED people around me. I CAN CONVINCE MYSDELF THAT I know from experience that there is no such thing as coincidence, SO THAT I CAN TELL MYSELF THAT GOD DID IT. Even if you do not believe in God as such, if you will pay attention, you will see the ALLEGED synchronisity that runs our universe, WHICH I SUPPOSE SCIENTISTS HAVE BETTER EXPLANATIONS FOR
Hey - what happened to the rest of my post!
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Boo!
@ DJH - [Round of applause]
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It is amazing the sheer *arrogance* that people use religion to justify. It’s one thing to get your wish-fulfilment at the movies, but its another to set yourself up as some kind of Superman/Gandalf and claim it all stems from God’s Divine Will.
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First it’s the ‘cleverer than thou’ attitude:
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‘I have an IQ of well over 180.’
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So many visitors here who are so keen to convince us that they are intellectually the end result of some weird in-vitro experiment involving Einstein and Stephen Hawking. And then they move on to slightly mad stuff, like this:
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‘In the meantime, I will pray for you and yours that you will at least learn respect and tolerance.’
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It’s like, as well as convincing themselves that they are more intelligent than *everyone* else, they also have to believe that they have some magical ability to affect events from afar. Religion legitimises special X-Men powers under the name of prayer. Evyl Robot Michael, a word of warning: let this go before you end up praying for cakes not to rise. We’ve seen it before, and it ain’t pretty.
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And lastly this:
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‘Until then, I’m sure that this message will earn me the brunt of your ridicule. It’s up to you, though. Will you prove me right or wrong?’
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Or ‘Not only am I a GENIUS, who has MAGIC DIVINE POWERS OF PRAYER, but I can also SEE THE FUTURE’. Yes, well done. I’ll try one on you, shall I? I predict that you will take all of these responses with a pinch of salt and carry on believing in god. Well, now, you wouldn’t want to *prove* my powers of prediction, would you?
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So you correctly anticipate ridicule. Congratulations. As long as you keep saying ridiculous things, I’m happy to keep proving you right.
DJH - You’d done more? It was a great start.
Wow! I suppose I should be flattered! You know, I expected a response from that, but I had no idea whatsoever that I would get you guys going for nearly a month about it. Seriously though, I meant no offense. I’m terribly sorry that some of you were offended by my words. When I say that I will pray for you, it is a blessing and not a curse. When I say that I have seen the power of God in my life, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there. When I say that I don’t believe in coincidence, I mean that there is no mere chance. Yes, I’m familiar with Mensa. I have my personal opinions about letters after names that are neither here nor there. My comment about intelligence was not indeed to belittle anyone in this forum, but rather to illustrate the fallacy in the comment, “Davey lets face it if you believe in a supreme being you are probably not blessed with intelligence.” which was intolerant and offensive. Furthermore, I would prefer to post for myself and not have my posts “corrected.” I would love to have a respectful dialog here in which you do not automatically assume that I am belittling you, and you in turn do not attempt to belittle me. I hope this is possible.
–ERM
It is not possible when you continue to say idiotic things like “I don’t believe in coincidence, I mean that there is no mere chance.” It is hard to have a conversation with someone so obviously out of touch with how the real world works.
Michael,
The very existence of religious belief, and the nonsense that you people believe in, your continuing insistence that everyone should think as badly as yourselves, your insistence that you will “pray” for us (I would rather you spat in my face, frankly) belittles all of humanity. Evolve. Grow up. Stop being such bloody children and take responsibility for yourselves, you bloody shambles.
Evyl Robot Michael,
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I agree with you in taking offense to Davey’s statement. There are intelligent people that believe in any number of religions. Although there is a proven correlation between education and atheism, that should not be taken to mean that anyone that believes in a religion is not intelligent. I take it to mean that religion does not stand up well when people are exposed to alternate viewpoints and critical thinking.
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I am pleased to see that we both believe in the power of prayer. I will pray to His Noodly Greatness that you will be delivered from the clutches of your false god and brought to the Great Table of Truth. I hope that did not offend you. My prayers are a blessing, not a curse. Get the point?
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I recommed you find some new arguments. The points you made are overused and will not fly in this forum. Bringing them here demonstrates a lack of research on the topic. The “It is true because I believe” or “My belief fills me with joy” argument is no argument at all. Think of it this way. (paraphrasing Sam Harris) If I believe that there is a diamond the size of volkswagon in my back yard, I will be ecstatic and start shovelling away with zeal. It doesn’t matter if there is a diamond. So long as I believe it is there, I will be happy. A better statement would be to simply say “I believe in XYZ because it works for me.”
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Also, let’s try to avoid the “evolution is a ‘theory’” and “God of gaps” arguments. The scientific use of the word ‘theory’ is not the same as in common conversation. Of course there are gaps in the evidence for evolution. There always will be. Science is a contiuous process to fill in the gaps, but there will always be gaps. Despite this, there is a mountain of evidence that fits the theory of evolution. Someone with your IQ should be above these cheap and weak tactics.
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Finally, synchronicity. This one dumbfounds me more than anything else you said. Synchronicity is nothing more than then the tendency of the human brain to find patterns. It is simply how our mind works. Synchronicity is not much removed from horoscopes and fortune cookies. The mind will see meaning where there is none if we want it to.
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OEJ
I also want to congratulate you, Michael, on your choice of username. Evyl Robot is indeed the case. It seems you have overdosed on the opiate of the masses.
@ Evyl Robot Michael
‘When I say that I have seen the power of God in my life, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there.’
I was wondering what you meant by that. ‘unless you had been there.’ unless I had seen the power of God? Or unless I at one time thought myself ’saved’?
I know what it is like, I was brought up Lutheran, and was a good little church-goer for most of my life. However, after learning a few things, I began to see the holes in everything that I was taught about God. Now, I am happier than I ever was when I was ’saved’. I don’t feel condemned if I do just one tiny thing wrong. I don’t feel guilty or evil for doing something that humans are bound to do anyway.
While I appreciate that you have found something you can believe in, I would also appreciate it if you didn’t make such broad genralizations about what others supposidly don’t understand.
I’m just saying that I’ve been there, and it wasn’t for me.
*a-hem*
I’ll happily stand by any offense that I’ve caused with my own words, as you know, but in this instance the offending sentence wasn’t one of mine, it was a comment directed to me, hence “Davey” being the first word in the sentence.
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I agree you don’t have to be stupid to be religious, and, conversely, you don’t have to be smart to be an atheist. Intelligence and belief don’t correlate that well, or that easily. However, a lot of otherwise perfectly intelligent and sane people do end up believing the most outrageous nonsense as a result of organised religion’s conditioning of them (usually as children), which I think is a shame. It’s one of the many things I find intolerable about religion - it makes fools out of perfectly decent people.
Sorry Davey.
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I took that quote the wrong way and didn’t take the time to find the original post. Mea Culpa.
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OEJ
@Mike:
‘When I say that I have seen the power of God in my life, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there.’
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I’ll paraphrase a comment I’ve already made on another thread:
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When I say that my life was changed by reading Carl Sagan’s “Cosmos”, you wouldn’t understand unless you had been there.
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The thing is, Mike, I wouldn’t *expect* you to be there. I don’t *need* you to be there. I have no desire to evangelise or pray to *force* you to be there..
You should read it, anyway, just so’s you know the glory can exist without having to believe in ghosts.
Shit Bobby we’ve now got the ID lot in the uk (website attached)!
I’d very much like as much support as possible. Maybe fellow pastafari’s could mail the truth in science people and ask them help promote FSM as well as ID in UK schools. I’d very much apprieciate the lobbying potential of his noodly apendage
Regards Andy Collins
PS sorry i posted here, but could’nt find any other way of contacting you!
-chapter 6 online in “lame” thread
Let’s list all those we consider idiots for believing in God:
William Shakespeare
C.S. Lewis
Martin Luther King jr.
Bill Clinton
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Regan
Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Christopher Columbus
Isaac Newton
Louis Pasteur
Johnny Cash
Elvis Presley
Jeff Gordon
John Woo
Robert Duvall
Dalai Lama
Richard Gere
Nelson A. Rockefeller
Hugo L. Black
John D. MacArthur
Cornel West
John Grisham
Wait - are we listing Jewish people too or Just Christians we think are stupid? Someone else needs to take over writing this list - I am getting tied.
What a list of fools. When will they all learn to worship the His Noodly appendages?
@Johnny Corvette. Your list would actually be billions long, but it is not the act of believing in a god that is stupid, it is the execution.
Execution as in how Martin Luther King jr and Gahndi practiced thier faith? Or more like Charles Darwin and Albert Einstein did?
They are all fools to worship anything but His spagehttiness.
I’m pretty sure that the Dalai Lama is a Buddhist and therefore an atheist. Also if I were attempting to make the faithful of the world look good I wouldn’t admit to Ronald Reagan, Christopher Columbus, or Nelson A. Rockefeller. And finally we might enjoy the work of famous musicians and actors and such that doesn’t make them intelligent or legitimise their religious views.
P.S. - C.S. Lewis is just a Tolkien wanna’ be.
Praise the pasta
RAmen
not fools, just misled.
and by the way, it would be somewhere in the trillions.
we don’t generally consider people fools for believing in other religions, just for blindly following them. an open mind is always welcome.
I don’t know the Dalai Lama but I do know the Llama Song. I’m pretty good at -’Jesus can’t play rugby’ - as well!
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Sorry - absolutely nothing of relevance to add to this thread. Just felt left out and wanted to contribute (^_^ - like it)
-chapter 7’s up. …get it? 7up?-huh?
I am just trying to make sure I understand which aspects of people’s believe in God we find so abhorrent. My former friends tell me that I “hate Jesus†and tell me stories of their God’s greatness and love and all the many people who have found peace and salvation through their believe. I try to explain all the evil that has been done in the name of their God and all the intolerance I have seen in people who claim to be pious. The seem to think that people have the capacity to be evil and intolerance no matter what they believe. I have been touched by His noodly goodness and they think I am crazy.
I used to be a devoted and pious believer in the Dream Mine.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Dream-Mine/
Have since converted and only worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I run a Pastafarian congregation in the town of North Woods and we run a small “School of the Devine Noodle†for grades k-12. We also have a small and fledgling Pirate Militia willing to sacrifice for the great doughy stringy one.
Johnny Corvette, Enlighten leader of the First Fundamentalist Pastafarian Congregation of the North Woods.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there Johnny. Most genocides have been committed in the name of .
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I suspect most folks on this site would get on with Jesus. The thing is - we are here - he isn’t!
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I feel for you -you said ‘your former friends’. Sorry for that. I’ve also lost friends because of my evil ways. Some were quite nice.
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As to peoples belief in god. I speak for myself here. I really don’t care what others believe in - non of my business. I just wish they would do the same.
RAmen
-Alchemist,I for one love your evil ways.Never change!(Unless of course,you’d like to get more evil,that is)
@One Oared Marc
“but it is not the act of believing in a god that is stupid, it is the execution.”
RAmen One Oar
“your evil ways”
Oh dear. Now I have a Carlos Santana song rolling in my head endlessly.
Penne - you’re making me blush.
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Do as thou wilt (my spelling, grin) that’ll get the buggers biting. (not a Satanist myself. It’s an interesting pastime but I can’t ever see me sacrificing things- (although my ex girlfriend - hmm - no,no,no - I will not think bad thoughts.)
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I always thought genesis was allegorical! What happened to the nephilim ( not the 80s band but the big bad things that ate christians .
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This has got to be one of my most irrelevant posts ever. Wibble, wibble.
@Gnocci Man: “by the way, it would be somewhere in the trillions”.
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A trillion is 10 to the power of 12 (E+12, for short, or 1 followed by 12 0’s). A sensible guess as to the number of people who have ever lived is 106 billion (one tenth of a trillion) .. details here: http://www.prb.org/Template.cfm?Section=PRB&template=/Content/ContentGroups/02_Articles/0ct-Dec02/How_Many_People_Have_Ever_Lived_on_Earth_.htm
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My apologies .. I’ve been getting pamphlets from the First Church of Pedantology. It’s very tempting; they have 12 Apostrophes and everything. Must be strong .. beer, strippers, beer, strippers.
One Oared Marc - for some reason I’m singing “Strange Kind of Woman”. For the past three days - aargh. It’s a good song my sweet child in time -(gulp) oh for fsm’s sake - Nurse - pass me the Tori Amos - stat.
Ahhahahaha!
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I went to my brothers wearing my custom FSM shirt. He quickly asked me what it means so I told him and showed him this website. Later we went out and got drunk and he said to his friends “Hey, you see this shirt, FSM stands for the flying spaghetti monster as he’s part of some weird religion called Pastafarism” I told them it was a lie and he’d made it up on the spot as he’s a born liar. Strangely, they believed me.
ode to the wonders of cheap, noodly, college food that reminds us, everytime we we stumble home from the party and need something quick to eat, that we were created by FSM.
http://www.bored.com/videoparodies/ramennoodles.htm
i think this man has been touched by His Noodly Appendage. what do you think?
“Hey, man! where are my meatballs?”
RAmen
Today marks my 10th attempt to submit materials to you over the past two months. I have used both your automated system and attachments. I do not understand why I have not received a response. Are you getting the messages?
If the materials are not up to your standards, if you could send a short response to that effect, it would be the courteous thing to do.
The desktop images have been uploaded again. The musical piece can be found here:
http://www.soulhill.com/music.html
Nice stuff, Iondot. Got any sea shanties?
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OEJ
My parents just put an angel on top of their Xmas tree. It is with great frustration that I am unable to buy an FSM substitute. Please correct this matter. Xmas would be much easier to tolerate if I could look up at the tree and see noodly appendages instead of a god damn angel.
Since the Seattle Airport caved in and allowed Christmas trees to be displayed in their lobby, is there any chance of us getting a beer volcano? I think there is an equal time issue here…
An AIM buddy icon would be fantastic. Livejournal ones, too, perhaps?
Ok…. Some of these people crack me up. If you think that this website was created by a cult of robe wearing pasta believers…praising the Oh holy Carb Grail by the bowls filled… you are the same people that this website is mocking. So if you don’t get it, then just accept the fact that you are the “mockee†You know, the ones that believe the many tales presented in organized religion as face value. This site was created to “mock” the whole idea of religion itself. A religious satire if you will.
If you believe that someone actually walked on water and that some gold statue smited an entire army dead in one single holy swoop or that some old dude built this giant arc and had every freaking animal in harmony board the thing and play Gilligan’s Island…etc etc… then there is no reason why you can’t accept a giant ball of flying spaghetti into your life.
What’s the difference?
You say tomato I say tomato…Same Shit.
This site is hilarious.
If one were intelligent, one would see the humor in it. If one were intelligent, one would see what exactly this site is mocking and pointing out. If one were intelligent, one would not rant and F-ing Rave about how the pasta cult needs to read a self-help religion book and find “God” and state such intelligent statements such as “the creator of this site cannot be Atheist if he believes in FSM”. Duh. That’s exactly it! Who would have thought? Oh yeah, I’m acting as if religious fanatics and advent bible goers are, you know… Ok you get my drift.
If you don’t, then just don’t try to. You may hurt yourself. I don’t want to shake your faith.
If they were intelligent they would
(A) Look at history and science and stop being so god damn ignorant
(b) Understand the purpose of this ingenious website
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(c) Believe in the Holy Almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster!
So help my unpeeled garlic leaves!
Let the High Holy Pasta God himself Smite thee in your religious stupidity!
Oh Holy Smiter!
Long live the FSM!!!
@The Virgin Garlic’A religious satire if you will.’
RAmen The Virgin Garlic.’ It’s a long mental wank from a xtian, but you may enjoy this:
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“A Christmas thunderbolt for the arch-enemy of religionby John Cornwell as God, Times Online”
http://richarddawkins.net/articleComments,461,A-Christmas-thunderbolt-for-the-arch-enemy-of-religion,John-Cornwell-as-God-Times-Online,page1,commentReceived#comments
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Apologies for sending you there if you follow the link, but it is a good representation of what many of us are dealing with.
RAmen to your missive!
long winded wankery.
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You can always tell someone with no real argument because they produce long reams of tripe with poorly thought out arguments hidden in long, ambiguous, generally meaningless statements that abound throughout that whole thing (I’ve read maybe a page and got bored).
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I’ve noticed that dawkins is much more to the point, makes watertight arguments explained in such a way that a total moron could understand them and yet he still gets people like this monk making irrelevant points that have been fully and decisively covered in the book.
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I’ve read some point that I think the monk was trying to make about dawkins being arrogant, which is pretty rich coming from a monk writing as if he were god in the first person and who seems to believe that he has the absolute truth about everything, ever and it’s Christianity! He also reads bits of the book and then carefully omits bits to make it seem that it was not addressed in the book, which is quite dishonest and basically the same thing as lying. Undoubtedly he wouldn’t see it that way as it doesn’t say, word for word “ye shall not deliberately miss-quote to make an argument that is not actually valid”
I’ve noticed that opponents of the FSM, bless His noodles, do not use punctuation very often. This observation may lead to the discovery of another trend related to the FSM: The frequency of proper punctuation usage on posts as it relates to belief in the FSM. Also, they ridicule the idea that a Flying Spaghetti Monster could have created the Universe, because, as they say, “How could a Flying Spaghetti Monster exist before anything existed?”
How could their deity exist before anything existed?
“Faith is blind.”
@Beastly Rich
RAmen Beastly. I had to read through it in two parts. John Cornwall is an idiot!
Brilliant!
I am religious but this is just brilliant in terms of getting religious fanatics from various religions to see that zealots exist everywhere. Science must be kept pure until we can (and i belive eventually we will) prove the existence of “god” (or some sort of overseeing being). Intelligent design is a farce and (ironically) I pray that its kept away from kids.
Religion has killed millions for thousands of years. Sometimes I wonder if the world would be safer without religion. Kudos to FSM for trying to get ppl to see the stupidity of our beliefs.
Religion has its place to bring order to society. It has become increasingly confrontational now that various religions are meeting geographically.
What do you think god thinks of us? We are bigoted against ppl that dont think or look like us. Do bible-thumping, holier-than-thou individuals make god proud of us?
Over the years religion has been used to justify slavery in the west, the spanish inquisition, war in the middle east, female subordination, bigotry, the KKK & its brother Al Qaeda.
God help us all from religion.
Welcome Dr G.
Stick around, I think you may like it here.
Just don’t go to heavy on your god thing. I’m happy that you believe in a god. As are most in the CoFSM. But we really don’t want to here about your god.
Ours is a beer loving, stripper loving monster god.
(Good monster) But he’s as real as the god you have in mind.
Ramen
Knsaa Museam of science was excellent. But sadly still there are people that the picture is true
I took some prints of FSM wallpapers and flyers on the door of my local church at night
Allhail FSM
RAmen!!
@The atheist revolutionary Jan 3rd, 2007 at 4:33 am
“I took some prints of FSM wallpapers and flyers on the door of my local church at night”
Isn’t that a bit of a cheat way to get hatemail though?
Oh well, brace for the influx folks. Wonder if they know how to use the net?
Hi,
Just come across your site. I heard of a similar theory going called “The Magic Purple Rhino” (i.e. you can’t stop me believing that a magic purple rhino is stood behind me)
I am a little concerned about your religion. I think you have approached this in a very slap-dash way. How will you deal with the fundamental beliefs that will arise (probably in Italy) as the long downtrodden pasta peasants find out how much it is needed in other countries. Pizza emporiums will be bombed. The price of pasta will go through the roof, and George Bush will be forced to go on another “holy war” to liberate the oppressed pasta-producing countries of the world (to secure the pasta for himself). Before you know it, there will be wars (jihad) over who invented pasta (italians or chinese?) I think this kind of thing needs clearing up right now before you have an ecumenical crisis.
I am available for mediation services if required!!!!
Peace be with you all.
Rich
Hi there Rich and welcome to the fold. You raise some interesting questions. How will we deal with fundamental beliefs in Italy? Probably take the piss out of them.
George Bush - take the piss out of him.
Holy war - take the …well.
Who invented pasta? No one, He invented us! (Probably as a piss take)
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Once again welcome (word of advice TheLaughingMan loves it when you honour him by using his real name - Daffodil.)
Rich, not sure! But I do know what happens if you piss off the FSM, he poops on you!
Heres proof…
http://www.topix.net/content/ap/4125659851162812917706725415483395612179
Oh great. Just when I was starting to get some sleep again :) Topix.net, never been there before, ignored all your posts about it, and then you post a link. You utter ********. “.. Christians are hypocrites! ..No, you’re a hypocrite for calling christians hypocrites ..etc”
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I think I could have some fun there!
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Thanks Peter
@Rich Northwood
“Before you know it, there will be wars (jihad) over who invented pasta (italians or chinese?)”
The invention of Pasta have been extensively debated in another thread.
http://www.venganza.org/2006/11/15/spaghetti-and-pasta-didnt-exist-till-the-500-900ad.htm
Ah yes Alchemist.
You found one of the hippocrate threads?
Those folks (the good christian ones) Know my ISP addy over there, and they never respond to me anymore. Breaks my f***king heart! It does! However, it doesn’t stop me from telling them the important things in life.
It’s a blast!
I’m not game to go over there just yet. I have to read all this paperwork to read and, as usual, the forums have distracted me into a state of tardiness. Plus, My stomach is still a little uneasy from the pseudo science forums. Will wait til it settles a bit before I let myself be faced with more snake oil sellers.
Have bookmarked your link though, sounds like fun.
RAmen
Hahaha. Well, thanks to you I’ve only gone and registered. I be Erinyes over there, some other bugger’s got alchemist :(. Going to lurk and learn for a while before I start to play :)
Erinyes.
HAHAHAHA, They’ll you for that one!
Ramen
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you people are such assholes. I will make sure you all burn in hell. you fucking morons!
how dare you talk about me? the only real GOD and you equate me to pasta?
What The Fuck? Fucking Retards! you Retards will pay!
Hey look at me! i’m retareded i beleive in a plate of spaghatti
Yea right you FUCKING LOSERS! BURN IN HELL
It would appear that the Lord has a bit too much time on his hands…
fuck you what do you know I am GOD!!!!!!!!! I know
What is god doing up at this hour? Shouldn’t he be in bed by now?
FUCK YOU TO! STEEL MY SHEETS ASSHOE
ASSHOE? No thanks, I prefer the oars if you don’t mind.
Hi boys any of you want to play with a woman?
@GOD Jan 4th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
“fuck you what do you know I am GOD!!!!!!!!! I know”
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Well you aren’t the real God, the FSM, so which pseudo god are you? Are you one of the invisble ones?
ASHOE? Maybe this wanna be God has a cold.
Maybe he just wants a shoe?
Maybe this GOD is the one that usually goes by the name “WANK”?
@Jingles Jan 4th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
“Maybe he just wants a shoe?”
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Hi Jingles
Could be. I wonder how many feet it has? Maybe it has an extra foot instead of a brain? (keeping with the creation version of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics)