Pirates descended from vikings?

[Dudeman55556]

As we all know, we all descended from pirates. But what came before pirates? Recently at a Scandinavian festival, the truth came to me. People out of pirates, pirates out of vikings! They share many traits, such as scarce bathing, raiding small coastal towns , drinking a lot and general awesomeness. Pirates swore a lot, and as some of you might know, many english swear words, like shit and ass to mention a few, originally were Scandinavian words. I even once saw a guy wearing an FSM shirt and a viking hat.

Plus, look at techno viking.

[Cardinal Fang]

I see your reasoning, and on the surface it has merit. However the Gospel of the FSM tells us pirates have always been around.

I postulate that vikings were instead an evolutionary offshoot of the pirate. This is supported by the fact that most of the viking population were involved in looting and pillaging, and Scandanavia is cold - cause: effect.

CF

[Tigger_the_Wing]

I'm with CF on this one! Actually, I think I'm with her on most, if not ALL things. Very clever, our CF!

[Clifford]

Mmm, a good argument there, but I agree with CF.

I put Vikings as a type of pirate, alongside Vandals for example.

[Dudeman55556]

I put Vikings as a type of pirate, alongside Vandals for example.

I guess that makes sense. But in that case, we need a new viking smiley. The pirate one just doesnt work for that.

[Cardinal Fang]

You mean like:



CF

[Tigger_the_Wing]

Cool! (Except that vikings didn't have horned helmets. That's a Victorian myth.)

[Ubi Dubius]

Sure they did (and do!). Well, painted on, anyway. Here's a picture:

[Cardinal Fang]

Cool! (Except that vikings didn't have horned helmets. That's a Victorian myth.)

Would this be the same Victorian myth that says pirates were ruthless bloodthirsty robbers, not lovely people who gave sweets to kids...

CF

[Tigger_the_Wing]

Cool! (Except that vikings didn't have horned helmets. That's a Victorian myth.)

Would this be the same Victorian myth that says pirates were ruthless bloodthirsty robbers, not lovely people who gave sweets to kids...

CF

Probably!

Remember, though, only the other side in the frequent wars between European countries had pirates.

Our side (whichever that was) had 'privateers'; i.e. captains and crews not part of the official Navy that nonetheless would attack enemy shipping. Which was good.

[Clifford]

Cool! (Except that vikings didn't have horned helmets. That's a Victorian myth.)

Clifford likes this

[Dudeman55556]

You mean like:



CF

That's amazing! But now someone needs to add it to the smilies thing.

[tyop]

Silly noobling. Pirate : generic as Viking : specific. One could generically say they are in the military without necessarily specifying which branch. There are Vikings (rape and pillage), Carribean Pirates (gold, slaves, warmer weather), Butt Pirates (another kind of booty), Somalian Pirates (rice, boats full of no-name brand cheap products, old computers), Software and Media Pirates (pre-release cam videos of movies in theaters now, expensive software cracked and released for free), the list never ends.

[ET, the Extra Terrestrial]

This thread seems to be wandering away from its original subject. The most casual observer can easily see the intent of the OP (followed nicely by the first few replies) was to have a discussion about people and things vaguely related to pirates, that begin with the letter "V". I see Vikings, Vandals, and Victorian myths. Vikings were vicious, as I'm sure you all remember, and usually victorious in their raids. They succeeded in establishing the colony of Vinland (now Iceland) by settling various viable villages. When they died, they looked forward to Valhalla.

I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with the Vandals. Perhaps someone else can give a brief synopsis.

[Tigger_the_Wing]

This thread seems to be wandering away from its original subject. The most casual observer can easily see the intent of the OP (followed nicely by the first few replies) was to have a discussion about people and things vaguely related to pirates, that begin with the letter "V". I see Vikings, Vandals, and Victorian myths. Vikings were vicious, as I'm sure you all remember, and usually victorious in their raids. They succeeded in establishing the colony of Vinland (now Iceland) by settling various viable villages. When they died, they looked forward to Valhalla.

I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with the Vandals. Perhaps someone else can give a brief synopsis.

I'm looking into it…

Vandals were allied to Visigoths. They may have lived in Vendel (Sweden) by the shores of lake Vanërn? or Vendsyssel (Denmark). They once had a king called Visimar. They were vicious, vagrant, vagabonds during the reigns of the Roman emperors Valens, Valerian and Valentinian III. They may have drunk Valpolicella when vandalising valuable vinyards during the valise* of Rome.


*OK, sack.