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Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby SonarMB on Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:02 am

Just a quick note. One idiot Communications Minister and we are at risk of losing our religion.

Australian communications minister Stephen Conroy's attempts to clean up the web Down Under have been officially recognised by British ISPs - with a nomination for their Internet Villain of the Year Award.

Conroy is cited in ISPA's annual boo-hiss list for "continuing to promote network-level blocking despite significant national and international opposition". The Australian government is pushing a blacklist of banned sites for ISPs to filter that includes dentists, online poker and religious material.
:furious:

How will his Noodleness be able to communicate with us? :cry:

Its enough to make one dress in our Holy vesments and stage a pirate riad into Cantberra!!!!


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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Tigger_the_Wing on Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:20 pm

Source?

I don't recall hearing anything of this - and I live in Canberra. :confused:
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby KMill on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:31 pm

I heard a few rumours about this...

I'll default to my standard rumour response: I think it's bullshit and/or I don't care.

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Is it even possible to prevent an entire country from accessing specific ISPs?? I would've thought that where there's a will, there's a way.
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby ET, the Extra Terrestrial on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:39 pm

KMill wrote:I would've thought that where there's a will, there's a way.

Actually, I think the saying goes: "Where there's a will, there are at least three lawyers." (Sorry, Ubi Dubius)
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby henry morgan on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:29 pm

we cannot lose our fellow australians
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Tigger_the_Wing on Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:53 pm

Well, since the OP hasn't been back I thought I'd better do a little research.

Interview with the office of Senator Conroy here. From last October.

The announcement on 31st December2008 here.

Senator Conroy says it will be mandatory for all internet service providers to provide clean feeds, or ISP filtering, to houses and schools that are free of pornography and inappropriate material.


Note: amusing missing comma makes it appear that filtering will not be mandatory to houses and schools that already have pornography! :haha:

Alllegedly, the sites that will be affected by Australian ISP filters are those already filtered out, voluntarily, by some ISPs in other countries (such as the UK, Sweden, Norway and Canada) because they contain
… child pornography, cruelty or real violence, and sexual violence.
Of course, that list could cover news articles too and in any case none of those countries has made filtering mandatory yet. And what of typos that end up filtering out innocent sites (because someone typed in a 3 instead of a 4, for instance.

Anyway, the DPP has said it would be pointless, as it wouldn't work and Senator Conroy now seems to be agreeing with him. Article from 5th August here.

In further written comments made to this website today, Cowdery questioned whether an internet filtering scheme would help him catch and prosecute more criminals such as child porn traders. He said compromises to freedom of expression would also need to be considered.

People looking to view banned material on the web would probably be able to bypass the filters, while those peddling material such as child porn would most likely change their tactics to avoid detection by the filters.


From my reading, it seems that 'religious' sites (like this one!) would only be on the banned list accidentally. I think that this is going to die a quiet death in a pile of other dusty folders with unworkable ideas.
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:24 am

Unworkable? Like in China, you mean?

It can be a gradual process of making the people indifferent or want ISP filtering, not some instant 404 blasting.It can happen, and I believe it very well could in the next few generations.

You know the Department of Edgykayshin are discontinuing critical thinking from the curriculum?
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Charlie on Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:31 am

Detective TurtleHolmes wrote:Unworkable? Like in China, you mean?

It can be a gradual process of making the people indifferent or want ISP filtering, not some instant 404 blasting.It can happen, and I believe it very well could in the next few generations.

You know the Department of Edgykayshin are discontinuing critical thinking from the curriculum?


Wow. Sounds alot like 1984. And what . . . the . . . you're getting ideas from Mr. Thompson? I'm surprised you're even awake when he begins talking. I still confused whether he's serious most of the time or very paranoid.
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Charlie on Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:31 am

Charlie wrote:
Detective TurtleHolmes wrote:Unworkable? Like in China, you mean?

It can be a gradual process of making the people indifferent or want ISP filtering, not some instant 404 blasting.It can happen, and I believe it very well could in the next few generations.

You know the Department of Edgykayshin are discontinuing critical thinking from the curriculum?


Wow. Sounds alot like 1984. And what . . . the . . . you're getting ideas from Mr. Thompson? I'm surprised you're even awake when he begins talking. I'm still confused whether he's serious most of the time or very paranoid.
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Julius Aurora on Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:33 am

Charlie wrote:I'm still confused whether he's serious most of the time or very paranoid.


Hmph. He is very serious, most paranoid people are.
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:54 pm

It's a bit of English and SOS. But my point still stands. Maybe not paranoid, just cynical.
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Re: Australian Pastafrians at risk!

Postby Dudeman55556 on Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:31 pm

SonarMB wrote:Just a quick note. One idiot Communications Minister and we are at risk of losing our religion.

Australian communications minister Stephen Conroy's attempts to clean up the web Down Under have been officially recognised by British ISPs - with a nomination for their Internet Villain of the Year Award.

Conroy is cited in ISPA's annual boo-hiss list for "continuing to promote network-level blocking despite significant national and international opposition". The Australian government is pushing a blacklist of banned sites for ISPs to filter that includes dentists, online poker and religious material.
:furious:

How will his Noodleness be able to communicate with us? :cry:

Its enough to make one dress in our Holy vesments and stage a pirate riad into Cantberra!!!!


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