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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Zankou 2.0 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:49 pm

Capellini wrote:ASOIAF is a fantasy series set in an alternate medieval type environment, knights and kings and castles and dragons, plus treason, incest, king slaying, patricide, rape, murder, poison, infidelity, war, jousting, kidnapping and all the other stuff that made that time period so much fun. Oh, and there are zombies.

You've just described a veritable orgasm of literary pleasure. Such a book is not possible; 'Twould destroy the universe.


If anyone is looking for a good read, the Outlander series by Diana Gabaldon is excellent.
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Capellini on Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:13 pm

Zankou 2.0 wrote:
Capellini wrote:ASOIAF is a fantasy series set in an alternate medieval type environment, knights and kings and castles and dragons, plus treason, incest, king slaying, patricide, rape, murder, poison, infidelity, war, jousting, kidnapping and all the other stuff that made that time period so much fun. Oh, and there are zombies.

You've just described a veritable orgasm of literary pleasure. Such a book is not possible; 'Twould destroy the universe.


If anyone is looking for a good read, the Outlander series by Diana Gabaldon is excellent.


Not only does it exist, it exists in 4 separate books, and what will be a total of 7 upon completion.
True terror lies in the futility of human existence.

Malcolm Reynolds is my co-pilot.

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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Zankou 2.0 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:25 pm

Capellini wrote:
Zankou 2.0 wrote:
Capellini wrote:ASOIAF is a fantasy series set in an alternate medieval type environment, knights and kings and castles and dragons, plus treason, incest, king slaying, patricide, rape, murder, poison, infidelity, war, jousting, kidnapping and all the other stuff that made that time period so much fun. Oh, and there are zombies.

You've just described a veritable orgasm of literary pleasure. Such a book is not possible; 'Twould destroy the universe.


If anyone is looking for a good read, the Outlander series by Diana Gabaldon is excellent.


Not only does it exist, it exists in 4 separate books, and what will be a total of 7 upon completion.

I refuse to believe you without proof. I'll set up a PO box, you can mail them to me.

Or, ken could send us both bus fare.
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Rainswept on Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:15 pm

Capellini wrote:ASOIAF is a fantasy series set in an alternate medieval type environment, knights and kings and castles and dragons, plus treason, incest, king slaying, patricide, rape, murder, poison, infidelity, war, jousting, kidnapping and all the other stuff that made that time period so much fun. Oh, and there are zombies.


You left out the army of eunuchs who can't feel pain, and the face-changing assassins (Those are my favorite!)
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:58 am

If anyone wants to read a rather interesting coming of age fantasy novel, with ninjas, read the Otori series, by Lian Hearn. (A pseudonym.)

It does not present anything mind-bogglingly new, but is still quite a good tale. Unfortunately, it skips over some of the things which would have made the book so much better. (Like ninja training!)
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Capellini on Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:17 am

Rainswept wrote:
Capellini wrote:ASOIAF is a fantasy series set in an alternate medieval type environment, knights and kings and castles and dragons, plus treason, incest, king slaying, patricide, rape, murder, poison, infidelity, war, jousting, kidnapping and all the other stuff that made that time period so much fun. Oh, and there are zombies.


You left out the army of eunuchs who can't feel pain, and the face-changing assassins (Those are my favorite!)



That's right, I forgot the Faceless Men. I also forgot the Sand Snakes, which is a shame because I know Ken would love them. Golden skinned, flowing haired, sex-crazed, voluptuous women armed with daggers and poisons?

Zank, I would happily send you a copy of the first book. But amazon could do it for you also.
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Zankou 2.0 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:20 am

Capellini wrote:
Rainswept wrote:
Capellini wrote:ASOIAF is a fantasy series set in an alternate medieval type environment, knights and kings and castles and dragons, plus treason, incest, king slaying, patricide, rape, murder, poison, infidelity, war, jousting, kidnapping and all the other stuff that made that time period so much fun. Oh, and there are zombies.


You left out the army of eunuchs who can't feel pain, and the face-changing assassins (Those are my favorite!)



That's right, I forgot the Faceless Men. I also forgot the Sand Snakes, which is a shame because I know Ken would love them. Golden skinned, flowing haired, sex-crazed, voluptuous women armed with daggers and poisons?

Zank, I would happily send you a copy of the first book. But amazon could do it for you also.

I'm checking my library/bookstore at the next possible moment.


I have to finish Outlander first, and I still have two and a half books to read. Then, I have several books I need to get ahold of and devour.

As well as three video games I am attempting to get and play through.

I'm going to have a busy(and possibly expensive) summer.
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Rainswept on Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:30 pm

I finished my slow and careful reread of all the SoIaF novels and prequels. Now I am sad. :cry:
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Elastoman on Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:58 am

I honestly can't believe that no one has mentioned The Chronicals of Thomas Covenant. Especially with this crowd.

Quick synopsis - Thomas Covenant is a popular, successful writer with a beautiful wife and child. Then he contracts leprosy....

Anything more would ruin the surprise. But seriously, this is one of the collections of books that made me love reading, and made me want to write. Sure, I may not be the next Hemmingway, but WOW. Really good stuff.
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Rev. Rowan Redbeard on Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:03 am

I can't say that I was particularly thrilled with them. I picked up the series, then stopped. Something I almost never do. Eventually I made myself finish reading them, then I sold them back to the used bookstore. Again, something I almost never do.

I can't put my finger on why or how, but it just seemed a bit forced to me, and rather unoriginal.
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Elastoman on Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:27 am

Fair enough, Rev. Something in 'em resonated with me. Haven't done the self-analysis to figure out what, and not really inclined to do so, considering the source material. ;)

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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Rainswept on Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:59 am

Elastoman wrote:I honestly can't believe that no one has mentioned The Chronicals of Thomas Covenant. Especially with this crowd.

Quick synopsis - Thomas Covenant is a popular, successful writer with a beautiful wife and child. Then he contracts leprosy....

Anything more would ruin the surprise. But seriously, this is one of the collections of books that made me love reading, and made me want to write. Sure, I may not be the next Hemmingway, but WOW. Really good stuff.


Opinions differ I guess. I found Lord Foul's Bane to be the most unpleasant fantasy book I've ever read, and wouldn't touch the rest of them with a ten foot pole.

Never before had I read a book that actually made me feel dirty. I found the protagonist to be well... less than heroic. To this day it's the only series I actively warn my friends not to read.
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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Capellini on Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:29 am

Rainswept wrote:I finished my slow and careful reread of all the SoIaF novels and prequels. Now I am sad. :cry:


So what do you think the 'word' that Brienne screamed was?
True terror lies in the futility of human existence.

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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby Elastoman on Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:22 pm

Rainswept wrote:Never before had I read a book that actually made me feel dirty. I found the protagonist to be well... less than heroic. To this day it's the only series I actively warn my friends not to read.


But that was half the fun. . .

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Re: Song of Ice and Fire and other fantasy series.

Postby ~NoodleDemon~ on Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:02 pm

HA!

Finally, I've found Capellini's weakness!

I must tell worley!

Btw, The Dark Tower was a good series (for those who didn't already read it). It is pretty damn depressing, though. So much death - it's obviously Stephen King's fetish. Not that it's unusual, but it makes for a depressing read, if interesting.

I found Wheel of Time to be pretty good too, though very disjointed and somewhat hard to get into.
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