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Just debated a Creationist...

Postby EarthRise » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:05 am

It made me feel dirty and drained.

Frankly, I don't know how many more debates I want to get into now.
[...] the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory.
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Postby PantyGnawer » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:06 am

What flavor? YEC? ID? Boisenberry?

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Postby Rainswept » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:13 am

I have a friend who describes herself as a post-atheist, meaning she's been an atheist long enough that she no longer feels the desire to debate morons.


I'm not quite there yet, myself. :shellfish:
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Postby EarthRise » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:18 am

PirateGuy wrote:What flavor? YEC? ID? Boisenberry?


Not actually sure. I'm thinking Young Earth.

She definitely had the worst definitions of evolution, though, which was expected.
[...] the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory.
-Darwin

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Postby PantyGnawer » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:58 am

EarthRise wrote:Not actually sure. I'm thinking Young Earth.


There is your first mistake.

Anti-evolutionists come in many flavors. Before even engaging one you need to get them to establish where they are coming from, in order to know how to base your arguments.

If you are just defending evolution, then your defenses will be the same regardless of the flavor. But if you are going on the offensive then you have to know the flavor.

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Postby EarthRise » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:23 am

PirateGuy wrote:
EarthRise wrote:Not actually sure. I'm thinking Young Earth.


There is your first mistake.

Anti-evolutionists come in many flavors. Before even engaging one you need to get them to establish where they are coming from, in order to know how to base your arguments.

If you are just defending evolution, then your defenses will be the same regardless of the flavor. But if you are going on the offensive then you have to know the flavor.


But I wasn't on the offensive. We were arguing the role of Intelligent Design and the 'failures' of evolution.
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Postby PantyGnawer » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:00 am

EarthRise wrote:But I wasn't on the offensive.


Well then, what good are ya?

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Postby thatgamerguy » Wed May 28, 2008 9:56 am

Remember the greatest argument, NO YOU! But be prepared for him to not get it and continue arguing.

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Postby sosondowah » Wed May 28, 2008 10:04 am

hah. i work with two southern baptists and once upon a time the topic of evolution came up. i said something about it and they glared me.
i said, "what?"
they said "oh, you're one of those people..."
"those people?"
"yeah, the ones who believe in evolution"

i just shrugged.

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Postby KC Observer » Wed May 28, 2008 10:34 am

You should have then said..."Oh, your THOSE people. People who "...believe in an invisible man in the sky who watches everything we do, every minute of every day, with a special list of ten things he does not want us to do, and if we do ANY of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever 'til the end of time. But, he loves you. He loves you and he needs money!" (The preceeding is from George Carlin)

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Postby sosondowah » Wed May 28, 2008 12:08 pm

you can't teach a cripple to walk if the cripple refuses to stand up.

besides there really is no polite way of saying there is no god. how do you politely and discreetly say to someone that they have devoted their whole life on a lie?

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Re: Just debated a Creationist...

Postby tehgrisp » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:14 pm

I wonder how many people have been "converted" to atheism, not including personal experiences, insights, and logic unless preceding another's argument.
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