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Rated "R" or not?

Postby Rainswept on Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:52 am

OK there is a ton of discussion about whether Dark Knight should have gotten a stronger rating than "PG-13" in the US and "12A" in England. One review I read said:

ABC News wrote: it bears only a PG-13 rating, the same sticker slapped on "Mamma Mia!," whose most offensive scenes are arguably those of Pierce Brosnan singing.


I wanted to see what folks on here think.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby MeatballEucharist on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:03 pm

I saw a movie called "This Film Is Not Yet Rated". It reveals some interesting points on the MPAA. Including a religeous connection to the rating process.
Beyond that I think Dark Knight is intesting in that it isn't explicitly violent but the actions and mood of the movie and it's presentation provided the emotional and dark weight without showing some of the glossed over violence scene. But I see nothing wrong with the movie as it is rated though I'm hopeing for an unrated DVD.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby fueledbycoffee on Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:22 pm

To my knowledge, they never used the word "fuck," and none of the violence was really explicit. Any time the Joker was cutting on someone the camera moved away. The only thing that could've done it was Two-Face's face. However, you must recall that a decade ago, we saw someone literally ripped in half in The Lost World, and that was PG-13. There's been worse PG-13 movies.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby Rainswept on Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:54 pm

I think that movies are getting made as PG-13 at a crazy rate tho, and it saddens me. I refused to watch a PG-13 Die-Hard for instance. I mean, they aren't doing anything wrong by catering to the highest number of people who see it, but by FSM I wish there were a few more movies made just for adults.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby fueledbycoffee on Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:25 pm

Good business states that if possible, cast the widest net you can with your product. You can't blame them. (PS. I do.)
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby Edd on Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:30 pm

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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby fueledbycoffee on Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:51 pm

Would be, but it's not. It's absolutely disgusting what the studio's have done, especially to film and music. At least comic books are typically allowed some freedom. Of course, they PG-13'd Mark Millar's run on The Authority, so nothing's safe anymore.

There is hope, though. Indie music and film, self-published authors, alternative comics, and free online art galleries are helping somewhat, even if it's harder to scrape through the filth and find the good stuff. At least it's not just a lukewarm gray paste, like mainstream stuff.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby Capellini on Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:00 pm

I am hoping that they will take the new tv rating system and extrapolate it to movies. By specifying more specifically WHAT is in the movie that you as a parent might want to be concerned with, it will allow (hopefully) for more creative freedom regarding the audiences you're courting.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby HeathenPastafarian on Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:21 pm

Capellini wrote:I am hoping that they will take the new tv rating system and extrapolate it to movies. By specifying more specifically WHAT is in the movie that you as a parent might want to be concerned with, it will allow (hopefully) for more creative freedom regarding the audiences you're courting.


I haven't seen The Dark Knight yet. But....

But I think Cap's idea is a good one. Some parents care about their kids not seeing violence, others sex, etc and that way they maybe parents can make better decisions. I remember when American Pie came out, I was like 22 and parts of it embarassed me and I could not believe the kids that were there in the theater. Same with Kevin Smith movies....I love his movies (Chasing Amy, Mallrats, Clerks, etc), but Jay and Silent Bob is not a movie that I would let my young teenager see, it's rated R, yet the theater was filled with teenagers.

It's funny growing up, I was not allowed to watch the Dukes of Hazzard because the bad guys were the law enforcement officers and my mom didn't want my bro and I to get that idea; not to trust the police. Now my husband was allowed to watch Dukes, but he couldn't watch He-Man because it had to do with witchcraft and sorcery and his parents are fundamentalist Christians. I always crack up thinking about that difference in what was important to each parent.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:03 am

A PG-13 rating for "The Dark Knight" seems just about right. The equivalent of that here in Aus is M, which just seems to fit the movie perfectly. Sure, it has dark themes, and will most likely scare the little kiddies, but it's not catered to a below 7 audience. It's made for teenagers and above. There's nothing explicit, like a man's head being chopped off, or any sex scenes.

Comparing "Mamma Mia" to "The Dark Night" in terms of rating is like comparing apples to oranges. They're completely different genres.


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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby GreenRain22 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:13 am

>.> I don't mind PG-13 ratings. Reason being is so that I can get into the movie theaters whenever my mom dosen't have time to watch it with me.

However, I DO mind whenever they cut out ANYTHING bad out of the movie to shorten it to PG-13. That sucks.

Ratings totally are connected with religion; I figured that out without watching the movie. (But the Not Yet Rated thing sounds interesting). In my eyes, a PG-13 Die Hard is good news for me: I can get in the theaters. But if they cut out any of the great cussing and violence, fooey on them.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby ~NoodleDemon~ on Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:10 am

And here was me thinking that European television was all enlightened and showed boobies, etc. on screen.

Maybe that's the Aussies.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby Detective TurtleHolmes on Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:44 am

~NoodleDemon~ wrote:And here was me thinking that European television was all enlightened and showed boobies, etc. on screen.

Maybe that's the Aussies.

Sadly, no.

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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby WelshRarePasta on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:08 pm

I don't know, when I lived in the UK (1990s) they used to show unedited films on channel 4 all the time after 10pm. Sex, drugs, cursing, violence, got the whole gamut, and it was good. Think it was summer of 96 they showed every Kubrick film, unedited, uninterrupted, from his student days through his most recent at that time. Was brilliant.
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Re: Rated "R" or not?

Postby Moral Minority on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:32 pm

~NoodleDemon~ wrote:And here was me thinking that European television was all enlightened and showed boobies, etc. on screen.

Maybe that's the Aussies.


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