Proof of Influence of FSM in Shakespeare

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Postby Entropy » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:20 am

I think A Midsummer Night's Dream was clearly a metaphor for the Flying Spaghetti Monster's involvement in the world. Oberon was the Flying Spaghetti Monster and Puck was His Noodly Appendage. Titania represented people who were unfaithful believers; she had upset the FSM by not wearing her pirate outfit, and was being shown the truth through use of Puck. Puck also was messing with the Scientists (represented by the Athenians).

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Postby black bart » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:33 am

I couldn't agree more with your excellent analysis. I also conjecture that in 'King Lear' (act 4 scene 1) the Kings eyes were representative of the holy meatballs and had to be popped out in time for lunch. :D
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Postby Swatopluk » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:07 pm

Now a similar analysis for The Tempest would be appropriate.
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Postby vallerand » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:23 am

That a monster should be such a natural!

Trinculo in The Tempest

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Postby Swatopluk » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:00 am

Is Caliban connected to Mepastaphiles the Rotten?
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Postby black bart » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:38 am

Never mind Caliban...
I wouldn't mention that you're a Pastaphile while we're on line!!!! :?
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Postby Griffin » Sat May 20, 2006 8:48 pm

Half-part, mates, half-part.
Come, let's have her aboard suddenly

Pericles Act IV, Scene I

No doubt at all about this reference. I think we all know who Shakespeare is refering to here.
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Postby Swatopluk » Sun May 21, 2006 5:15 am

Does anybody know how many pirate references are there in the works of Shakespeare?
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Postby Griffin » Sun May 21, 2006 9:59 pm

Apart from the whole play about Pirates ? Or including it?
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Postby Swatopluk » Mon May 22, 2006 10:49 am

Better count that as one. But of course we don't know about the lost* plays (e.g. Love's Labours Won).

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reading the silences

Postby Sarah » Mon May 22, 2006 5:57 pm

Merchant of Venice is clearly a play with coded references to Pastafarianism. (They have to be coded, of course, because of the danger to life, limb, and theatrical popularity had Shakespeare revealed himself as a devout Pastafarian in the time of the Tudor and Stuart repressive state church.) As with all such coded references, the key is to take a post-modern approach and read the silences in the text, carefully noting the presence of the absences. So, in Salanio's speech about the danger to Antonio's argosies:

Salar. My wind, cooling my broth,
Would blow me to an ague, when I thought
What harm a wind too great might do at sea.
I should not see the sandy hour-glass run 28
But I should think of shallows and of flats,
And see my wealthy Andrew dock’d in sand
Vailing her high-top lower than her ribs
To kiss her burial. Should I go to church 32
And see the holy edifice of stone,
And not bethink me straight of dangerous rocks,
Which touching but my gentle vessel’s side
Would scatter all her spices on the stream, 36
Enrobe the roaring waters with my silks;
And, in a word, but even now worth this,
And now worth nothing? Shall I have the thought
To think on this, and shall I lack the thought 40
That such a thing bechanc’d would make me sad?
But tell not me: I know Antonio
Is sad to think upon his merchandise.

You will note that there is absolutely NO reference to pirates at all--though clearly they would be a considerable threat to any ocean-going business venture of the time.

There would be no reason for Shakespeare not to mention pirates in this context unless it was his desire--nay, his *need*--to disguise his Pastafarianism.

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Postby Alpaca » Mon May 22, 2006 6:09 pm

Ah, clever! The sudden very lack of evidence is evidence in itself!

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Postby Swatopluk » Tue May 23, 2006 12:18 pm

But he is mentioning broth and draws connections to sea-related things.
Any other reason but hidden hints to His favored topics(eating, pirates)?
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Postby Griffin » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:40 am

Swatopluk wrote:But he is mentioning broth and draws connections to sea-related things.


How old IS Black Bart's recipe? More research needed. Inform Cap'n Jack immediately. It is possible that Bart has stolen the orginal recipe and this should be added to the alleged crimes list.

Thanks Sarah. You may not realise how important this quote may be.
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Postby dutch convert » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:00 pm

merchant of venice
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Shylock
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"O father Abram, what these christians are. Whose own hard dealings teaches them suspect The thoughts of others!"
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Here clearly Shakespeare refers to his own difficulties in his life. He knows about the Flying Spaghetti Monster but he cannot find a way to discuss his religion. Now, through Sylock, he here shares his most deepest concern and frustration.
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