Proof of Influence of FSM in Shakespeare

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Postby Alpaca on Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:34 am

"How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is
To have a thankless child."
--Lear, King Lear 1.4.302-3

Here, Lear remarks how miserable it is to eat uncooked pasta "sharper than a serpent's tooth" when ungrateful children don't cook it for you.

Note that while this expression may seem questionable today, it made sense in the Elizabethan era because of the familial structure of the time, and the toughness of uncooked pasta.
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Postby Duke on Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:20 am

Yes, it was quite common to complain about uncooked pasta, back in the day.


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Postby Griffin on Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:56 pm

Quote wrote:Here is one of those rare films that qualify as aromatic. At moments you can actually taste Hoffman's Midsummer Night's Dream. Against its backdrop of gurgling fountains and piazzas, there are baskets of ripe tomatoes and garlic. Pasta dough is rolled flat across a table. Meat roasts slowly on a spit. There are cups of espresso and glasses of wine. Midsummer Night's Dream is more live-action Bon Appetit than Shakespearean comedy, and through it all, the fairies fly through the sky with playful abandon.

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The Italian influence on Shakespeare - for example Verona - leads to speculation that the forest is indeed an Italian forest. The Gruaniad reported spaghetti growing on trees way back in the 1960's.
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Postby Alpaca on Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:01 pm

MSND is frought with pasta references. The very story-within-a-story structure reflects the obvious influence of stuffed conchiglie pasta shells.
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Postby Griffin on Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:25 pm

never mind ravioli.
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Leaky

Postby black bart on Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:09 pm

Thou art so leaky that we must leave thee to thy sinking.


Antony and Cleopatra

Clearly a reference to the cullender used for straining pasta!
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Postby Griffin on Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:13 pm

A delight, a visual representation of MSND and the tale within the tale.

http://www.babooshkashop.co.uk/webuploa ... 0small.jpg

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10 Piece Shakespeare Matryoshka - Russian Nesting Doll

The forest is clearly demarked and it is just possible to make out the pasta in the bottom left hand corner.
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Postby Alpaca on Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:16 pm

"What's done cannot be undone."
--Lady Macbeth, Macbeth 5.1.71

Lady Macbeth realizes that she cooked the pasta too early, and as she watches it get cold while she waits for the dinner guests, she mourns that it cannot be uncooked.

In a scene found exclusively in the pi folio, Lady Macbeth then goes on to eat it all and make a new pot for the guests. And ghost(s).
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Postby Griffin on Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:43 am

Has anyone checked the ingredients used by the three witches?
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Garlic

Postby black bart on Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:20 am

Eye of newt, Wing of bat and a bag of tortellini!


You talk greasily, your lips grow foul.


Love's Labour's Lost.

Another obvious reference, here the object of the comment has been eating garlic rich pasta.
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Postby The Black Spot on Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:07 pm

"Is this a dagger I see before me,
The handle toward my hand?"

Macbeth - Macbeth 2.1

Here Macbeth is seated at the dinner table ready to eat a plate of spag bol. He picks up his fork, goes to pick up his spoon, but sees that he has been given a knife. This is the defining moment of the play, and the horror of being unable to eat his meal signals Macbeth's descent into madness.
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Food

Postby black bart on Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:27 pm

If pasta be the food of love, serve on, give me surfeit of it


Twelfth Night

I think this is obvious and so true even to this day of romantic Italian meals - washed down with a nice bottle of Chianti and with a soundtrack of 10ccs Life is a Minastroni!
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Re: Garlic

Postby Griffin on Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:29 pm

black bart wrote:
You talk greasily, your lips grow foul.


Love's Labour's Lost.

Another obvious reference, here the object of the comment has been eating garlic rich pasta.


I disagree with this interpretation. I believe foul was mistranscribed from the First Folio and was originally fowl. This was clearly a reference to Chicken Asiago - the coincidence of the use of Iago in Othello is too pronounced to doubt it. The grease would stem from the use of fatty bacon. http://www.thatsmyhome.com/chickencoop/chiasi.htm
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Postby Alpaca on Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:22 pm

"It out-Herods Herod."

--Hamlet, Hamlet 3.2.14-15


This is an obvious reference to Harrods, which we'll assume sold pasta in Elizabethan times.
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Thrown

Postby black bart on Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:37 am

Some are born great, some achieve greatness and some have pasta thrown upon them....


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