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from a scientist

I support your intent of countering the “intelligent” design “theorists” and their stealth efforts to bring in Creationism into the classroom (and kick out science). However, what’s this business of pirates vs. global surface temperature. Sure, you make a point that there’s a difference between correlation and causation. Perhaps you’re trying to point out that the true cause of GW may not be man-made green-house gas emissions. Well, the scientists have studied this problem and have come to the conclusion that it is. Please don’t give with one hand and take with the other. You support the scientists in Darwinian evolution and on the other hand don’t in GW science.
I suggest you remove your references to pirates and global surface temperature (your curve does look compelling though).
Regards,
Alan

[A response: No deal, Alan. I tend to agree with the Global Warming hypothesis, and I certainly think it makes sense to err in that direction whether or not you agree with it - I'm all for conservation and green technologies. But, there is an almost religious type of dogma surrounding the Global Warming issue that makes me uncomfortable. Global warming is probably happening, but that is a world apart from saying it is Truth that must be supported. I'm against dogma and a priori reasoning, not any specific beliefs. -bobby]

I’m sorry to come off strong

I’m sorry to come off strong and all but as my school we have believers that follow this. I dont mind in what you believe in for all seriousness BUT the pictures, some are a mockery that you are apperntly trying to put on catholics,jews,lutherians,e.t.c. We dont blast on your religion DONT BLAST ON MINE OR OTHERS! You guys want to be taking serious? well then do it proffessional..
-chris

wow you people are crazy

wow you people are crazy i pray to my LORD jesus christ that you people wake up God created man in his own image and im sorry but if you look like noodles with meatballs growin out your BUTT you need to go back to SPACE or get back in the pan where you’ll be somebodys dinner!

people will believe anything!!

i am verryyy happy i was well homeschooled becuase i would be in jail for punching a teacher in the face when she tried to tell me about this so called spagetti monsterr!

i hate to be the breaker of bad news but when you look around when u die u wont be with your master meatball you’ll be burning in the pits of HELL and i am a REAL christian and that hurts to know that so many people are gonna be in hell! over a random guy that started a joke and has nothing better to do besides make up some god for fun then see how many people are loving this idea.
God bless you wacked out meatball loving freaks!
-christy

You are an idiot

You are an idiot. You’re nothing more than a evangelist for idiocy. Anyone who sends you a penny for sitting on your dumb ass and spewing moronic brain excrement into the world deserves to spend eternity with you and your flying shit monster. Get a life. I’d say get a job but what idiot would hire you?
-Harrison

tired of having your religion bashed

Tired of having your religion bashed because its different? Tired of ignorant people telling you that your wrong? Tired of people telling you that your closed minded? WELL HEY IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM JOIN THEM! Here on this site you’ll find open forums in which you can bash all the other “religions” and tell people how wrong their “religion” is. So come on in and be as close minded as the ones you despise!
-drew

Why knock god

Okay, so I know you’re probably not even going to read this, but I had to express myself.
First, a bit of my religious background. I was raised a Baptist, slowly came to realize that I didn’t believe a word the Bible says, and became Wiccan for two years. Then I had a “long dark night of the soul,” more commonly known as existential crisis, during the course of which I became agnostic. However, my closest friends are two devoted Catholics, an atheist, and another Wiccan. I do not make fun of or demean their beliefs, and they do not make fun of or demean me. None of us attempt to convert anyone, although we are willing to share information if asked for it. I am not sure what I think about the Kansas School Board issue, as it concerns the definition of science as well as faith, but I do know that even if I do not agree with some of my friends, I would never tell them they are being illogical.
Recently at my college, a spoken word artist performed. He was also agnostic, and one poem he wrote in particular spoke to me. He compared God to Diet Coke, saying that Diet Coke helps him get through the hard times in the same way that God helps others. So why take that away from people? The majority of Christians aren’t hurting anyone, are they? If their beliefs help them get through their lives without the despair I feel everyday due to my doubts, why ridicule them for it?
If you have actually read all this, thank you for your time. A reply, if you have time to write one, would be appreciated, but you do not have permission to repost my words anywhere.
Sincerely,
Z.E.

are you guys retarded

[i think this is fake.. but who knows]

Are you guys fucken retarded? Fucken trying to fuck every religion up? Why don’t you suck MY noodely appendages you ass wipe! Your dip shit ass site isn’t going to keep me from going to church!

-Sincerely Aaron V.

you guys are a joke

YOU GUYS ARE A JOKE BELVING IN A STUPID SPAGETTI MONSTER U FUCKING QUEERS GET A FUCKING LIFE AND A JOB AND A NEW RELIGION
-chris

what!?!

I don’t care who you are, or what the f*** you’re
thinking, but if that CRAP shows up in our school
systems, my girls will NOT GO TO SCHOOL! Jesus Christ
is our Lord and Saviour, and I hope for the sake of
your soals that you wise up and get back to the REAL truth!

GOD BLESS
LOVE DEEDEE

of course intelligent design should be taught

Of course intelligent design should be taught.
For the simple philosophical premise of it being more than enough, And the fact that having consciousness within creation automatically proves its being designed, since consciousness is the only thing that can comprehend “design” and “not designed” infact, its the only thing that can comprehend at all. So if creation were not designed, it would not contain consciousness capable of “design” and we wouldnt all be here debating this would we.
-brian

Who’s doing the demonizing?

Who’s doing the demonizing? I suppose you live south of the 49th, but Athiests who refrain from thrusting an agenda on others (and yes, lots of religious folks do do that) do not get very much flack here. Nor do Sihks, Buddhists or Unitarians. These sects do not, and this is where it might be instructional to your group to sit up and pay attention, construct websites with the single clear purpose being to discredit spiritual people. You are disrespectful and frankly, not too evolved. The rest of the world is striving to move toward to-ler-ance and you’d be well advised to follow suit. I don’t wear a turban, carry a hymn book, wear a cross, a ceremonial sword, I don’t wear blessed underwear or confer with tree goods but I do know that we’d all be better off saying, “I agree to disagree” and cease and desist with campaigns to uncover someone else’s faith as a sham. I think defamation is the word you’re looking for, as opposed to demonisation, unless whereever you’re from really IS the way it’s depicted in South Park (I thought it was a parody!) no one is “DEMONISING” intellectual curiousity,…that’s called ’science’.

Your logic is not up to snuff. So, if this is not in the name of humour, it’s in the name of logic. Excuse me while I go and ponder that disconnect. There are many, many illogical things that happen in the world with amazing regularity. Does that necessitate a campaign to discredit it? One example, so many people gorge on fastfood that obesity is an epidemic. —> Therefore we should start a campaign to uncover their stupidity and shame them into more informed behaviour while acting as laugh material for the rest of us non-fatties. (the ones who know “the truth” about food)

Have you ever heard of relativism? Do you know that the chances are very, very good that Jesus, the Bhudda (arguably several incarnations) and Muhhomed (sp?) all walked the earth?
-Meichan

A distinction

A distinction:

I appreciate what you’re saying, and I think it’s important to hear. In writing with such wry and caustic humour, you’re able to really effectively reveal the absurdity of what’s happened. There is a difference, however, between parody and ridicule. At points your sarcasm (“one third time for logical conjecture,” etc.) becomes quite harsh and implies that the religious view denies logic and reasoning wholesale.

You’re dealing with something that, more than being a “precious belief” per se, is an important part of many people’s identity. Many define themselves, not just peripherally, but primarily as “Christians.” Attacking that belief system without at least giving it some hint of respect or sensitivity is akin to mocking a person’s chosen lifestyle, personality, or preferences as not just different but illogical and wrong. You can’t in one section write ironically about the deductive demerits of believing in written scripture as a priori truth and then claim to avoid attacking the very heart of a person’s belief system and philosophical identity. You have literally brought the very basis of not only Christian teaching but religious belief in general into question, and in a fairly patronising and uncompromising way.

I’m not asking you to “present both sides” or any equally bullshit measure. But I am asking you to be empathetic. When criticising the core of a person’s self-identity (what they believe in), it’s important to be a little more humane.

Ryan

Where is the damn solid evidence

Where is the damn solid evidence for Darwinian macroevolution? All I have ever heard and read is marginal evidence and lots of supposition along with a non or atheistic worldview that specifically rules out the possibility of considering the existence of God. Science cannot imply God? Complexity cannot imply God? To you people, it cannot because evolution is true. Since evolution is true, complexity is due to evolution a priori. Tautological, completely.

Whenever a theory such as irreducible complexity is brought forth that might lend credence to the argument that you all so despise–the very NOTION of the existence of God–then research is done with the goal in mind (implicit or explicit) of finding an explanation that fits within evolutionary theory. Peer review rules out the possibility of even considering any outside-the-box thinking. Toe the pseudoscientific philosophical line or be ridiculed and marginalized.

I look at you blind believers in “science” as members of a political party. If I were to go into the Democratic National Convention and tell them that Republican ideas are correct, even if my ideas hold value they will be shunned. You Darwinists are essentially sore afraid that one day someone might posit something scientific that is unexplainable by any scientific means. And you might have to entertain the notion of God! *gasp* “But that isn’t science…we can’t consider it! God doesn’t exist, only infinitely finely-tuned physical laws that don’t vary and an essentially infinitely complex universe!” Chaotic haphazard happenstance. Yep, you guys have it all figured out.

Certainly you FSMers are among the most cynical and, yes, terrified of the notion that someday you might have to draw a conclusion that will force you to consider something that is not purely scientific (i.e. to you, that means something supporting Darwinian macroevolution) in your eyes.

I know, since I don’t agree with you guys’ philosophy I have a “poor understanding” of all things science, I’m ignorant of the plethora of evidence, blah blah blah. I’ve heard it. Save the glib condescension for the next generation of potential converts to either of your–dare I say–pathetic religions.

Nothing personal to any of you guys. I suppose you all have good intentions. I do wish you well and sincerely hope you find Truth.

-A Darwinian macroevolution-denying Physician

[this message was left as a comment on another thread]

are you kidding me?

flying spaghetti monster? Are you kidding me? I don’t think there’s any documents or books that date back as far as the Bible and are as accurate as the Bible. Try reading the book of Job. There’s so many things mentioned in that book alone that could not have been known by people, unless God brought it to light. Fresh water springs feeding oceans, deep trenches in the oceans, dinosaurs(40-42), yes dinosaurs not whales or hippos; many of these things we didn’t know until much, much later.
-erin

Ok ok. I just have to say this first

Ok ok. I just have to say this first…I am a satanist…..oh what now christains (ur next)!!! Even though i can tell in everyway this is fake its funny as hell, but it has been given more thought than some of the other “fake” religions going around. I dont know why this was created because my person views see christains take there religion form paganism, Eygption Gods, and even for Roman Myths. I think mocking a religion is horrilbe in any form ( that means ge off my back christains!!!). So this is kinda like a F you to christains on ur side, but from me to you i think you lost you mind if you believe this. If you cant see or even detect it how did it come to be known? Pirates have been proven to be thieves and they still are today (which is more prof), and the fact about the natural world, hurricanes and ect. are getting worse because the world population is increasing rapidly. So before you start saying stuff that doesnt make since like christains that are against gay marrige you better look more it the facts than wha you believe.

-Blake

r … u … serious?

r…u…serious? Ur LYING to everyone! Ur CONDEMNING them. And for what? U think ur COOL making up ur own “RELIGION”. Ur ridiculous. Ur IGNORANT. I will eat ur good for nothing spaghetti monster. Then I’ll be ur idle to worship. Ignorant. I’d smack u if that came about. Oh how I wish I could drive to u. Take all ur pasta away. Then! Just maybe, then, u could make up the swimming unicorn of wonder. I’m a Christian. And being a Christian doesn’t make me perfect. I am holding myself back from cursing at u. That’s pointless. Ur a fool. And u’ll burn in hell for being a fool. I hope, one day, u make the right decision.
-nicole

this is getting to be pretty sophomoric

This is getting to be pretty sophomoric.

Why not go back to being an atheist instead of a broken hinge that squeaks whenever it sees religion?

your a joke

Do something better with your life, your a joke.

why would you spend so much time to take the hope or beliefs away from others?

I was just curious about why it is you think that the monster is in any way equal belief to other religions. Why exactly did you begin this religion (?), what were your thoughts? I can begin to come to my own conclusions on your thought process, but i wonder if you could exlplain it to me. This subject seems to be pretty important to you, but why would you spend so much time to take hope or beliefs away from others? Do you think that you are simply much more intelligent than the many brilliant men who have come to the conclusion that God exists, or have you simply discovered something they had no access to?

Please respond to this e-mail, this is the MOST important subject any person will ever face. I would appreciate a response.
-Owen

fsm? what?

I stumbled upon your website and I just have to say, WHAT THE HECK? I’m trying to understand, but I just don’t get it. You invented your own religion that says pirates are holy and that we should pray to noodles? Are you on something? I’m trying to be open minded, but when I looked at your “evidence” all you had was people’s opinions. That’s all fine and well, but I need a little more proof than that. You can’t just go around making up new religions and shoving it down people’s throats. If I wanted to, I could say that the world was crated by aliens and that to go to heaven you have to be a gypsy and pray to cabbage, but that doesn’t make it true. Did you make this religion just to make fun of others or do you really believe it? If you do, the way you’re advertising it to the world isn’t going to make anyone take your religion seriously. And if the FSM is god and is the ultimate being in the universe, why would it take the form of a flying spaghetti monster. People are going to make fun of you even more than the mormons. If you’re trying to convert people put more information on the site, cause I looked at it and it still makes no sense to me.

Weirding me out a bit, but still curious,
Tina

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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