Kansas School Board Responses to the Open Letter

Response from Mrs. Janet Waugh - District 1 - Received 6/25/05

From: JWaugh1052@[xxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 25, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: Response from a member of the Kansas Board of Education

Thanks for your comments about the Flying Spaghetti Monster and all the supporters who have sent their support to members of the Kansas Board of Education. I am supporting the recommendations of the science committee and am currently in the minority. I think your theory is wonderful and possibly some of the majority members will be willing to support it.

Thanks again,

Janet Waugh District 1

Response from Mrs. Sue Gamble - District 2 - Received 6/26/05

From: msgamble@[xxxxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 26, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: Reply

Dear Mr. Henderson, Thanks for your message. Thanks for the laugh. Your web site is fascinating. I will add your theory to a long list of alternative theories I intend to introduce when it is appropriate. I am practicing how to do this with a straight face which is difficult since it’s such a ridiculous subject; it is also very sad that we are even having the discussion.

I will be one of the four member minority who will be voting against the flawed science standards currently being proposed by the six member majority.

Sincerely,

Sue Gamble

Response from Mrs. Carol Rupe - District 8 - Received 8/16/05

From: Carol Rupe
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Aug 16, 2005 8:19 AM
Subject: Kansas State Board of Education

Dear Mr. Henderson,

In the midst of the sad circumstances of having our science standards lowered, you and your legion of fellow FSM followers have offered wonderful comic relief. Rather than the form letters which we often receive on other topics, each FSM letter has been clever and unique. I responded to several at first, but now there have just been too many. I am a member of the Kansas State Board of Education and have voted repeatedly to maintain excellent science standards. Last week was the vote to send a new draft (written by the 6 conservative members) out for external review. The four of us on the board who are moderates were in the minority on the vote. The group of science teachers and university professors who had written the original standards (before they were changed) have now asked that their names be withdrawn from the document. The new version changes the very definition of science from “seeking natural explanations” to “seeking logical explanations”. That is why I think FSMism is able to be included. It is as “logical” as any other theory.

The final vote on the standards will be in October. We will be in Lawrence, Kansas for that meeting. Those of us who are moderates on the board are trying to have the meeting in the Natural History Museum at the University of Kansas. We think that would be an appropriate setting for the occasion. We welcome you to be in attendance.

We have received thousands of emails from scientists around the world. At first, they all tried to explain good science to us. After the vote last week, however, they have resorted to calling us hillbillies and morons. And those are the nice letters!

Thank you for adding levity to this situation. You have developed quite a following. I was wondering if we could reverse the effects of global warming if we started breeding pirates.

Sincerely,
Carol Rupe

P.S. I ordered a Kansas Museum of Science t-shirt. I may just have to wear it to a board meeting.

From: Mrs. Kathy Martin, District 6

“It is a serious offense to mock God.”

1154 Responses to “Kansas School Board Responses to the Open Letter”

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1141 - August 15th, 2008 at 2:17 pm - obfg Says:

Kathy Martin is a nitwit.
1142 - August 15th, 2008 at 9:40 pm - tsalathe Says:

Actually, I find most any religion crazy! Why because religion has caused wars and hate. Christians, and Muslims being some of the worst haters. Don’t believe me? Just look at the hate mail, so called Christians using four letter word your mother said never never to use. I could go on about this subject for a good while. Myself, I don’t believe in a processed food product being a higher power either. I got a good laugh out of it.

No I am not an atheist either, I am Agnostic. Not a militant one! You can believe it what you want. But you really don’t know, and I don’t either. I guess if I was to become religious though I would rather be one who believes in reincarnation. Nature does not like to waste things, she recycles so I could see ones soul being done in the same manner.

One other last note to think about, a friend told me he thought of a higher being like a Clock maker. Builds the clock (meaning earth) sets life on it and moves on never to look upon it again. Goes off and builds a new clock…so on and so forth. Who is to say he is wrong…or anyone else for that matter. So for all those Christians out there that are going off on FSM believers you need to sit back and read one of your precious bible quotes: “Judge not, lest ye be judged!”
1143 - August 17th, 2008 at 3:55 pm - Tarquin F Smythe QJM Says:

It is a serious offence to mock God….The Flying Spaghetti monster is our ‘God’ and could/might wreak his/her/its wrath on the mortal who would so much as snigger/chotle/guffaw at his noodliness.
A pestulence on the non believer. and so say all of us. hahharrrr me hearties.
1144 - August 19th, 2008 at 5:00 pm - Lex W. Malsbleckly Says:

Kathy Martin there is pretty intolerant. I’m Catholic, and it’s taught that “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain” yet many people each day do. Is that not mocking the judgement of our God? So when someone says the Flying Spaghetti is an insult to God, they should shut their hypocracy-filled mouths and think again.
1145 - August 21st, 2008 at 6:15 am - Billy Says:

This is the greatest thing I have every seen in my life. Truly outstanding!!! And for those who are bitching about it, shut the fuck up, freedom of religion is a beautiful thing. til you can prove it 100% or even 10% shut up about other religions, fuckers. YAY FSM!!!
1146 - August 21st, 2008 at 10:48 am - Pasta Bryan Says:

Aaaah, Miss Kathy Martin, you mean it is a serious offence to mock YOUR god. And with such a possition you’re undoubtedly saying OUR God doesn’t exist, which is a mock to OUR God.

But of course that doesn’t matter, because it’s not YOUR God.

Thank heavens the board of education has enlightened people like you deciding what goes into a science curriculum in such an unbiased fashion.
1147 - August 22nd, 2008 at 7:50 pm - Chappy Fokker Says:

Oh man, I cant believe it took me so long to find out about FSM and IPU. They might have mentioned the school board allowing ‘ID’ in schools on one of the episodes of Penn and Teller’s: Bullshit but I guess FSM came after they aired the show.

I should be working but this is too interesting to stop reading about. lol
I need edit my FB profile to reflect my belief in this religion. XD

-chappy
1148 - August 23rd, 2008 at 5:47 pm - Mr.Fsm Says:

Well, when you can prove to me that the FSM does not exist, I will stop believing in him. Untill then, I shall carry on in my beliefs ;)

“It is a serious offense to mock God

Insulting our religon, by calling it a mockery of your religon, is in turn mocking our God, therefore a serious insult ^.^
1149 - August 24th, 2008 at 4:25 pm - Kit Says:

It seems to me that the core problem is when one’s personal beliefs, which are your own damn business start getting imposed on others. If you want to learn about creationism, go to your church, synagogue, mosque, temple where religion is taught. If you want to learn about evolution, go to your high school, college or university where science is taught. As the two things are incompatible, it makes the most sense to just seperate them. If you don’t believe in one or the other, just smile and nod, when you hear about it and if you really want to press it, say that you don’t believe in what you have just been told but RESPECT other views. What you believe is up to you and what other people believe is up to them, so long as you don’t try to make people believe what you do, we can all live in relative harmony with other. It’s when people try to tell others what to do that we get pissed off. And if you say: “What you believe is wrong, what I believe is right” isn’t that basically insulting the other person’s intelligence?
1150 - August 25th, 2008 at 2:28 am - chris Says:

i find Mrs Kathy Martin to be a person who has yet to experience the true power of his noodlie appendage, there for i per pose that we send our most intelligent and enlightened member to debate the importance and existence of her god in comparison to OUR god i think Mrs Kathy Martin will quickly retract such a hypocritical and incorrect comment. Further more it is no where written that “it is an offense to mock god”. Mrs Martin i regret to inform you that it is not an offense to do so, it is simply frowned upon by people who are way to up tight. Finally don’t bother asking me to prove that FSM exist cause the simple fact is I CAN NOT but guess what you can not prove the existence of YAHWEH either and if you dare Google who Yahweh is the i think you will find your previous statement even more hippo critical as you do not even know the name of the god you are worshiping, now ain’t that offensive??
have a good day
1151 - August 27th, 2008 at 12:18 pm - Raven Says:

I love how those in favor of the Spaghedeity write intelligent, well-thought-out responses to your letter, while the lone dissenter gives you a whopping 8 words.
1152 - September 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm - kirkslashspock@gmail.com Says:

I think people are missing the most important issue here. The FSM… is He bathed in a homemade marinara sauce, or a name brand? Personally I couldn’t worship a pasta that reeks of Newman’s Own Sockarooni. It is too spicy.
1153 - September 2nd, 2008 at 12:14 pm - cw Says:

All oyu people are idiots. A clump of pastry can’t be a higher powe. And i go with that other guy on that reincarnation thing. It’s not my right to make fun of your religion hough so i’ll back off.
1154 - September 2nd, 2008 at 8:28 pm - CrapuloN Says:

how can you look around at the world we live in and not realise that it must of been created by some kind of flying pasta monster, it is just simple logic. And also, what kind of lame person goes onto a religeous website just to tell everyone that the entire theory is stupid, grow some balls and fuck off.

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American