Response from Mrs. Janet Waugh - District 1 - Received 6/25/05

From: JWaugh1052@[xxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 25, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: Response from a member of the Kansas Board of Education

Thanks for your comments about the Flying Spaghetti Monster and all the supporters who have sent their support to members of the Kansas Board of Education. I am supporting the recommendations of the science committee and am currently in the minority. I think your theory is wonderful and possibly some of the majority members will be willing to support it.

Thanks again,

Janet Waugh District 1

Response from Mrs. Sue Gamble - District 2 - Received 6/26/05

From: msgamble@[xxxxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 26, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: Reply

Dear Mr. Henderson, Thanks for your message. Thanks for the laugh. Your web site is fascinating. I will add your theory to a long list of alternative theories I intend to introduce when it is appropriate. I am practicing how to do this with a straight face which is difficult since it’s such a ridiculous subject; it is also very sad that we are even having the discussion.

I will be one of the four member minority who will be voting against the flawed science standards currently being proposed by the six member majority.

Sincerely,

Sue Gamble

Response from Mrs. Carol Rupe - District 8 - Received 8/16/05

From: Carol Rupe
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Aug 16, 2005 8:19 AM
Subject: Kansas State Board of Education

Dear Mr. Henderson,

In the midst of the sad circumstances of having our science standards lowered, you and your legion of fellow FSM followers have offered wonderful comic relief. Rather than the form letters which we often receive on other topics, each FSM letter has been clever and unique. I responded to several at first, but now there have just been too many. I am a member of the Kansas State Board of Education and have voted repeatedly to maintain excellent science standards. Last week was the vote to send a new draft (written by the 6 conservative members) out for external review. The four of us on the board who are moderates were in the minority on the vote. The group of science teachers and university professors who had written the original standards (before they were changed) have now asked that their names be withdrawn from the document. The new version changes the very definition of science from “seeking natural explanations” to “seeking logical explanations”. That is why I think FSMism is able to be included. It is as “logical” as any other theory.

The final vote on the standards will be in October. We will be in Lawrence, Kansas for that meeting. Those of us who are moderates on the board are trying to have the meeting in the Natural History Museum at the University of Kansas. We think that would be an appropriate setting for the occasion. We welcome you to be in attendance.

We have received thousands of emails from scientists around the world. At first, they all tried to explain good science to us. After the vote last week, however, they have resorted to calling us hillbillies and morons. And those are the nice letters!

Thank you for adding levity to this situation. You have developed quite a following. I was wondering if we could reverse the effects of global warming if we started breeding pirates.

Sincerely,
Carol Rupe

P.S. I ordered a Kansas Museum of Science t-shirt. I may just have to wear it to a board meeting.

From: Mrs. Kathy Martin, District 6

“It is a serious offense to mock God.”

1115 Responses to “Kansas School Board Responses to the Open Letter”


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  1. 901 Wench Nikkiee Nov 3rd, 2007 at 2:09 am

    @The Beer Baron Oct 27th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
    “My deity could beat up your deity!”
    .
    Of course! Our deity has bigger balls!
    RAmen

  2. 902 Song Nov 11th, 2007 at 2:20 pm

    I know it’s been said before, but, for the love of the Noodly One, if it can’t be proven, it’s not science.

  3. 903 The Love Slug Nov 14th, 2007 at 9:29 am

    Is it just an American spelling oddity or should it be an “offence” to mock God, not an offense ? I suppose if colour can be color and ignorance can be bliss then silence is golden.

    Slug D’Amour

    P.S. The FSM lives in my right shoe.

  4. 904 Blessed Union of Sauce Nov 17th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    May the good master have mercy on your sauce Mrs. Martin. You and your kind obviously do not understand what kind of damage you are doing by dishing out the wrong kind of sauce that the great master has designed for us. Please try worshiping Him in the way we have been taught…you may find yourself fulfilled….AAARGG.

  5. 905 rsm Nov 17th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    I just wanted to let everyone know that Carol rupe will not be standing for re-election in 2008. I spoke with her at a political function several weeks ago and she confirmed this. A very good candidate currently serving on the Wichita local BOE, Connie Dietz, has filed for this State BOE position as her replacement.

    One further note…… Even 1 1/2 years out from the infamous FSM incident in my classroom, many state education leaders still remember how Connie Morris stepped into a big pile of **** when she demanded that the FSM symbol on my classroom door be removed during a tour of my school in 2006. I was reminded of this just this past week when the state school superintendent’s association held a meeting in my building and many inquired about one of our “claims to fame”!

    FYI: here is a link to our local newspaper/blog thread on the FSM

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/11/cult-of-flying.html

    Ramen

  6. 906 Captain Zack Nov 17th, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    I have just discovered pastafarianism and it is about as close to religion as my agnostic self can get. Besides, I live for all forms of pasta and realize now the reason behind my lifelong search for all noodly forms. I see now how the FSM has actually been present in me all these years and showing me the way, the truth and the light, because no one gets to have high carbo loads without the FSM.

    The whole idea of the FSM is a wonderful counterpoint to the sorry BS of the ID weenies. They are entitled to believe in whatever god they choose, but shouldn’t expect to be able to force their beliefs on others and have them taught as facts. A few things bother me about these folks.

    1. They refuse to think. If something cannot be satisfactorily explained by current scientific knowledge or there are conflicting data, it must be wrong and therefore “god did it.” ID is the panacea of the intellectually lazy.

    2. They are intolerant of any beliefs but their own, meaning they are right and everyone else is wrong. This is the key failing of virtually all religions (except possibly pastafarianism). All religions believe they are the only one that is right so everyone else is going to go to hell (or its equivalent). This of course means everyone is going to wind up in the same place. Which is, of course, true. We all die.

    3. ID adherents focus on creationism based on middle eastern creation myths from a book of questionable authorship. Yet they accept many other elements of science–a paradigm of selected beliefs. The bible, doesn’t mention nuclear physics or relativity, so they are OK as science. Which makes one wonder that if the bible stated the world was flat and the universe revolved around the earth if those points would the ID folks want those to be taught in schools along with the science.

    Arrrgh! Avast mateys, it’s pasta for breakfast.

  7. 907 The Pirate Red Nov 19th, 2007 at 11:53 pm

    Do you think his holiness is Ragu or Prego?

  8. 908 Derrick Osborne Nov 20th, 2007 at 1:24 am

    Dear FSM,

    I want to give thanks to you for allowing me to graduate from USD #259, Northeast Magnet, Wichita, KS. I believe that Your almighty plan was for me to attend the same school of thought that Mrs. Carol Rupe taught at and I thank you for that. I appreciate that not all of us share in the limited mentality’s that reside in the State of Kansas, such as those of Ms. Kathy Martin, District 6. It is because of people like her that the State of Kansas is unable to attract substantial investment. Because of these simpletons, most of the creative class of Kansas choose too relocate to other cities, where intelligent design is manifested at IKEA or in a Mercedes Benz. Thank you, Oh FSM for the wisdom and courage to leave behind the Ms. Kathy Martin’s of the world. Thank You!!!

    Derrick Osborne
    San Diego

  9. 909 PizzaToGo Nov 20th, 2007 at 1:38 am

    I love pasta, my girlfriend does, both my kids do too - and like monsters! What a match. They especially want the cool T-shirts - I guess in Germany the Religion-Thing isn’t as important to most. To each her/his own…
    But why not teach Dan Simmons’ Hyperion Cantos in school too? It would also make an extremely long and really cool Movie - to further spread the religion…
    Guess that would count as blaspemy here - hmm!
    It would be a lot more fun in class than reading the Bible though.
    Ok, my son prefers the pirates…
    Hell - Pasta for everyone!

  10. 910 Zinc Alloy Nov 20th, 2007 at 6:38 am

    After a lifetime of searching I am blessed to be touched by His Noodly Appendage.
    All the major and minor religons cannot hold a light to the FSM.

  11. 911 Belz Boulderstone Nov 20th, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    My life has been touched. I can’t believe that there is a long list of hate mail. It seems unfair. We are only trying to worship His Noodleness.

    In conclusion.

    Yaaaaaaaaaar.

    =]

    Go in noodles. Praise be to Him.

  12. 912 Ben Nov 21st, 2007 at 12:46 am

    I just want to saw that we should accept Kathy’s advice and no longer mock god, it goes against The Flying Spaghetti Monster’s first “I’d really rather you didn’t”.

  13. 913 Jeff M Nov 21st, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    It’s supremely arrogant to believe that anything in existence is not of God. The FSM is perfectly within the realm of God. Y’all who insist that there’s only one kind of God are the sinners. It’s your narrow and automatic concept that is mistaken. No one gets to define what God is and is not, regardless of how threatened or insecure you are from someone else’s ideas. In other words, get over yourself.

  14. 914 Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ Nov 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    Flying Spaghetti Monster… PHAH! That’s the most rediculous thing I’ve ever heard of. Obviously made up by feeble minds. Your story doesn’t even have him turning water into wine, walking on water or returning from the dead. Come on!

    Love,


    Jeebus
    www.OffensiveChrist.com

  15. 915 Pluto (Not sorry at all!) Nov 23rd, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    @ Jeff M
    Well said. How ever I think that the attacks by fundamental idiots will continue. The fact is they ignore or condemn anything that does not fit in to their world view, so you will also be ignored I’m afraid.
    .
    @Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ
    Loved the YMCA pic on your site. You should make it into a t-shirt

  16. 916 Jack Hanson Nov 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pm

    How dare you even propose that the great and bountiful spagheti monster is as equivalently dismissive as any half baked theory about the intelligent design of creation. All is encompassed within his noodly mass and any deviation from his life maintaining form is prompting his apocalyptic anger. We the faithful of his noodly whim swear a sacred oath in his name to defend his masterful presence and our obligation to inform others of his one true manisfestations with any means he permits us. I swear that if his theory does not take the place of all others including the heresies of Christianity that we will strike a most grevious blow at you and whet his noodly appendages with the blood of the faithless YOU. Dam you to the rancid pits of his places of punishment.

  17. 917 Patrick Nov 27th, 2007 at 2:11 am

    Yarrr-harrr-harr! Really, really funny, but dangerous… God is patient, but eventually we will all be held accountable.

  18. 918 FSM forever Nov 27th, 2007 at 6:08 am

    FSM is the Toleratant, and Created the illusion of christianity to hide the true believers!

  19. 919 OrthodoxCleric Nov 27th, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    As one of the only true representatives of His Noodleness I am calling for a return to conservative FSM orthodoxy. It is true that FSM is Tolerant (and Tolertant). It is also true the FSM has required all TRUE FSM believers to SMITE everyone who does adhere to the rules I just made up. Return to the true faith or face being set adrift aboard a burning ship by a loving FSM.

  1. 920 La Stella del Mattino » Il Flying Spaghetti Monster ispira un dibattito religioso traballante Pingback on Nov 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 pm

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American

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