Response from Mrs. Janet Waugh - District 1 - Received 6/25/05

From: JWaugh1052@[xxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 25, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: Response from a member of the Kansas Board of Education

Thanks for your comments about the Flying Spaghetti Monster and all the supporters who have sent their support to members of the Kansas Board of Education. I am supporting the recommendations of the science committee and am currently in the minority. I think your theory is wonderful and possibly some of the majority members will be willing to support it.

Thanks again,

Janet Waugh District 1

Response from Mrs. Sue Gamble - District 2 - Received 6/26/05

From: msgamble@[xxxxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 26, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: Reply

Dear Mr. Henderson, Thanks for your message. Thanks for the laugh. Your web site is fascinating. I will add your theory to a long list of alternative theories I intend to introduce when it is appropriate. I am practicing how to do this with a straight face which is difficult since it’s such a ridiculous subject; it is also very sad that we are even having the discussion.

I will be one of the four member minority who will be voting against the flawed science standards currently being proposed by the six member majority.

Sincerely,

Sue Gamble

Response from Mrs. Carol Rupe - District 8 - Received 8/16/05

From: Carol Rupe
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Aug 16, 2005 8:19 AM
Subject: Kansas State Board of Education

Dear Mr. Henderson,

In the midst of the sad circumstances of having our science standards lowered, you and your legion of fellow FSM followers have offered wonderful comic relief. Rather than the form letters which we often receive on other topics, each FSM letter has been clever and unique. I responded to several at first, but now there have just been too many. I am a member of the Kansas State Board of Education and have voted repeatedly to maintain excellent science standards. Last week was the vote to send a new draft (written by the 6 conservative members) out for external review. The four of us on the board who are moderates were in the minority on the vote. The group of science teachers and university professors who had written the original standards (before they were changed) have now asked that their names be withdrawn from the document. The new version changes the very definition of science from “seeking natural explanations” to “seeking logical explanations”. That is why I think FSMism is able to be included. It is as “logical” as any other theory.

The final vote on the standards will be in October. We will be in Lawrence, Kansas for that meeting. Those of us who are moderates on the board are trying to have the meeting in the Natural History Museum at the University of Kansas. We think that would be an appropriate setting for the occasion. We welcome you to be in attendance.

We have received thousands of emails from scientists around the world. At first, they all tried to explain good science to us. After the vote last week, however, they have resorted to calling us hillbillies and morons. And those are the nice letters!

Thank you for adding levity to this situation. You have developed quite a following. I was wondering if we could reverse the effects of global warming if we started breeding pirates.

Sincerely,
Carol Rupe

P.S. I ordered a Kansas Museum of Science t-shirt. I may just have to wear it to a board meeting.

From: Mrs. Kathy Martin, District 6

“It is a serious offense to mock God.”

1194 Responses to “Kansas School Board Responses to the Open Letter”

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  1. 221 - November 12th, 2006 at - Mad John Kidd Says:

    Reloj Checador…

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    Bueno, amigo! Recepcion a bordo del pirata del companero. Donde esta usted en de Mexico? Tristemente, la mayoria no tienen espanol en esto web del sititio.

    .

    For the gringos, I said to him: Welcome aboard fellow pirate. Where are you from in Mexico? Sadly, most do not speak Spanish on this web site. (At least, that’s what I think I said, my Spanish is a little rusty.)

  2. 222 - November 12th, 2006 at - Devils Advocate Says:

    But Nikki, genetic homologies is just further evidence of a common creator. Just because different species share traits doesnt mean that they have a common ancestor, its just means that god was lazy.

  3. 223 - November 12th, 2006 at - Mad John Kidd Says:

    btw, Reloj said: “Hello, very good site, congratulations from Mexico! I hope you continue working on your web site!!!”

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    props to bobby!

  4. 224 - November 12th, 2006 at - J Says:

    @ Devils Advocate
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    I can just see that - God’s reference from his work on The Creation:
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    ‘Got the job done in just about a week. A few odd ‘vestigial’-style organs and quite a lot of inter-species corner-cutting. All in all, a decent worker. Omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, bit lazy.’

  5. 225 - November 12th, 2006 at - Mad John Kidd Says:

    @J

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    God: “Oh, and may I introduce my son, the blood-sucking, flesh-eating zombie from hell which I came up with as a mere after thought. Sadly, these humans make such a big fuss over it.”

  6. 226 - November 12th, 2006 at - Mad John Kidd Says:

    Sorry, was that a bit harsh, or what?

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    @ J

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    Several attempts to reach you via email, concerning your Open Letter, have failed. I would be willing to add my name to the list but I’m not sure how to go about it. Any suggestions.

  7. 227 - November 12th, 2006 at - Styu2 Says:

    One of my 14 year old physics students asked me:”Sir - what is the meaning of life”. Quick as a flash I replied “for a biologist it is to have sex and keep the species going. For a Christian it is to love each other.”
    What would His-Noodleyness say?
    What would the diehard ID fans say?

  8. 228 - November 12th, 2006 at - Devils Advocate Says:

    @ J

    ‘vestigial’-style organs doesnt mean that they had no use at the time of creation. And its reasonable to think that if something works, then its perfectly OK to repeat the process. Apperantly God thinks its OK since thats how he created us.

  9. 229 - November 12th, 2006 at - Cap'n Saucy Says:

    Styu2, are your biologist and Christian responses necessarily mutually exclusive? I don’t think they have to be. I don’t know what diehard ID fans believe is the meaning of life, and I haven’t read m7y Gospel enough to know what the FSM says is the meaning of life, but I imagine it would have something to do with metaphorically sailing the seven seas and generally having a merry time. That’s pretty simplistic, I know, but that’s about as close as I can bend the tenets of Pastafarianism to my own answer, which is “to be”. If reproduction and love enter the picture, great!

  10. 230 - November 12th, 2006 at - One Eyed Jack Says:

    Styu2,
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    At the risk of sounding all existential, the meaning of life for any person is the meaning they decide. So, an answer to your student’s question would be something along the lines of, “What do you think?”
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    Now let me put my pirate hat on. A Pastafarian might say, “Enjoy life and try not to be a prick.”
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    An ID fan might say, “I don’t know. God hasn’t told me what to think yet.”
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    OEJ

  11. 231 - November 12th, 2006 at - Theodore Nicholson Says:

    Mocking God? sounds like a serious offense. Of course, that all depends on your view of God. Is God a omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being, or is he a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It’s your choice… I just caution everyone NOT to put God, FSM, Allah, Buddha in a box…either way he/she is far greater than us and not always to be understood. Does a flu virus understand humans…probably not…do we understand the true nature of the divine being…probably not…

  12. 232 - November 12th, 2006 at - Nowtheworldhasmeaning Says:

    @Devils Advocate,
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    The only reason we had the idea of a God was because it was assumed that the only way to make something complex was by having something more complex to produce it. That assumption can no longer be used due to evolution coming along.
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    Now you are correct that a God could have done all these things but the odds are stacked against it, in the same way the odds that the Green elephants ruled the universe before the orange piglets took over. Now if I started preaching such things, then rightly so, I’d be mocked.
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    In fact the odds that a God exist are so small that I’d write it mathematically as one over infinity, which as everyone knows this tends to zero.
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    Saying things like “genetic homologies is just further evidence of a common creator. Just because different species share traits doesnt mean that they have a common ancestor, its just means that god was lazy” is just pointless as it is all but a proven fact that many of mans illnesses come from the fact that he has evolved.
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    As it is said the imperfections within species prove evlution better then the perfection parts. IF God created us (and many other species) then he buggered up big time, blind spots, appendix that are not needed, illnesses due to certian parts of our bone structure not set up for upright walking.

  13. 233 - November 12th, 2006 at - Nowtheworldhasmeaning Says:

    Theodore Nicholson
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    God does not exist, trying to understand something that does not exist is as fruitless as saking who would win in a fight Dark Vadar or Spiderman?
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    “Does a flu virus understand humans…probably not…do we understand the true nature of the divine being…probably not… ? ”
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    A Virus does not have consciousness so the probably not part is definitely not. But this is still pointless as God was created by man, as a answer to questions he could not understand. We already know why man create God, and so our understanding of God is complete. Now the hard part is to unbrain wash the masses.

  14. 234 - November 12th, 2006 at - J Says:

    @ Mad John Kidd, and ANYONE ELSE struggling with my email address in the Open Letter,
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    I can’t explain this but, whilst the link in the letter doesn’t work, if you just type the email address as it appears, it should work fine. That’s what happens when I try to email myself, anyway.
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    The FSM allows these minor technological weirdnesses as a way of testing us, I expect.

  15. 235 - November 12th, 2006 at - RknButts Says:

    Xmas coming again.Sorry if my englis is a little not good.
    Como padres que decimos los juguetes son más un más costoso, la realidad son ellos son realmente relativamente un discurso más barato. El problema es cabritos ha perdido su palmo de atención. ¡Mi hija pasa una hora que mira a través de un sitio en línea de las compras y me dice que lo que ella desea para Navidad, toda cambia dos días más adelante! Rubydooby… un diverso punto de vista Esto es un sitio realmente fresco, sorry culd not write the english…but i like yur site.

  16. 236 - November 12th, 2006 at - bulls eye Says:

    Ms. Martin,

    If God is everywhere and everything, omnipotent and omnipresent, then no one can mock God- as it turns out, God is mocking himself. That also means that God is mocking you.

    May noodly love descend upon thee…

  17. 237 - November 13th, 2006 at - ben Says:

    Mrs. Martin:
    What is God but a figment of Man’s imagination? It is man who helps himself, and it is he who makes his own miracles. Besides, does not the 1st Amendment separate Church and State? if you want to teach religion in state schools, then go to Canada or Russia or some other country.

    Don’t get me wrong, i am just as good a person as you. The difference is that i don’t force my religion on others.

    Also, if the FSM relly is God (which it is) then are you not committing “a serious offense” by mocking Him?

    May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage.

  18. 238 - November 13th, 2006 at - Alfred-o Says:

    Dear Kathy Martin:

    Go and use your christianity as a pillow for your wrongs somewhere else!

    Though Shalt Not Insultith The Wrath of The FSM!

    RAmen

    Now to eat some spaghetti…

  19. 239 - November 14th, 2006 at - nikkiee Says:

    Devils Advocate Nov 12th, 2006 at 5:50 am

    ‘vestigial’-style organs doesnt mean that they had no use at the time of creation. And its reasonable to think that if something works, then its perfectly OK to repeat the process. Apperantly God thinks its OK since thats how he created us.
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    I think you are trying to be clever and failing miserably. Either that or you are just painfully ignorant.
    RAmen

  20. 240 - November 14th, 2006 at - nikkiee Says:

    I don’t believe I mentioned boring?

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American




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