Response from Mrs. Janet Waugh – District 1 – Received 6/25/05
From: JWaugh1052@[xxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 25, 2005 6:34 AM
Subject: Response from a member of the Kansas Board of Education
Thanks for your comments about the Flying Spaghetti Monster and all the supporters who have sent their support to members of the Kansas Board of Education. I am supporting the recommendations of the science committee and am currently in the minority. I think your theory is wonderful and possibly some of the majority members will be willing to support it.
Thanks again,
Janet Waugh District 1
Response from Mrs. Sue Gamble – District 2 – Received 6/26/05
From: msgamble@[xxxxxxxxx]
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Jun 26, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: Reply
Dear Mr. Henderson, Thanks for your message. Thanks for the laugh. Your web site is fascinating. I will add your theory to a long list of alternative theories I intend to introduce when it is appropriate. I am practicing how to do this with a straight face which is difficult since it’s such a ridiculous subject; it is also very sad that we are even having the discussion.
I will be one of the four member minority who will be voting against the flawed science standards currently being proposed by the six member majority.
Sincerely,
Sue Gamble
Response from Mrs. Carol Rupe – District 8 – Received 8/16/05
From: Carol Rupe
To: bobby.henderson@gmail.com
Date: Aug 16, 2005 8:19 AM
Subject: Kansas State Board of Education
Dear Mr. Henderson,
In the midst of the sad circumstances of having our science standards lowered, you and your legion of fellow FSM followers have offered wonderful comic relief. Rather than the form letters which we often receive on other topics, each FSM letter has been clever and unique. I responded to several at first, but now there have just been too many. I am a member of the Kansas State Board of Education and have voted repeatedly to maintain excellent science standards. Last week was the vote to send a new draft (written by the 6 conservative members) out for external review. The four of us on the board who are moderates were in the minority on the vote. The group of science teachers and university professors who had written the original standards (before they were changed) have now asked that their names be withdrawn from the document. The new version changes the very definition of science from “seeking natural explanations” to “seeking logical explanations”. That is why I think FSMism is able to be included. It is as “logical” as any other theory.
The final vote on the standards will be in October. We will be in Lawrence, Kansas for that meeting. Those of us who are moderates on the board are trying to have the meeting in the Natural History Museum at the University of Kansas. We think that would be an appropriate setting for the occasion. We welcome you to be in attendance.
We have received thousands of emails from scientists around the world. At first, they all tried to explain good science to us. After the vote last week, however, they have resorted to calling us hillbillies and morons. And those are the nice letters!
Thank you for adding levity to this situation. You have developed quite a following. I was wondering if we could reverse the effects of global warming if we started breeding pirates.
Sincerely,
Carol Rupe
P.S. I ordered a Kansas Museum of Science t-shirt. I may just have to wear it to a board meeting.
From: Mrs. Kathy Martin, District 6
“It is a serious offense to mock God.”
Got a translation… a bad one
Ander – you any wrong! start listening to the people!
Of course not you teach me … I have for you nubik … but in other forums to me
(I think so), listen … and about checkmate!
everyone knows that without a checkmate can express the idea but not everyone will understand it …
not inclined either to condemn anyone! Be tolerant to each other!
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@Blake Hillery #1191
I’ll assume (probably naively)that you’ve come to this website to learn something besides doing some childish spouting-off. Let me suggest that you go back on this string to #193 where “leucine” comes in with similar doubts and questions. Read this very carefully, and note “nikkiee”’s responses. I believe that she is a graduate microbiologist who is very knowledgeable about this subject.
She gives you links at #248 to texts at 3rd year college level to learn from; she lists at #278 links to research papers. “MaddJohnKidd” at #275 links some good papers for you. Read all of his responses. Carefully read the posts of “J”, “OneEyedJack” “PegLegDave” “Coleoptera” and others who have insightful remarks.
If you read all of this, that will allow you to understand the technical posts. Read also Mrs Martin’s and Devils Advocate’s posts (who also have your questions).
If you read carefully from #193 to #340 and familiarize yourself with the linked sources,you will be ready to intelligently come back to the conversation.
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I must say that I appreciate your take. As a catholic who has many friends who are Pastafarians, I tend to be insulted for my beliefs. I used to think it was because of you. But after reading the letter, it appears to me that you aren’t against religion, but rather you are against closed minded ass holes who press themselves on others. (or at least thats what it seems like) And I couldn’t agree with that more. But makes me think gosh… my friends are jerks…
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I detect a strain of cynicism out their, as though people are declaring their adoration of his Majestic Noodleness, whose name is too holy to say aloud, as if people are just covering their bases or submitting to peer pressure or something. To sort the durum from the chaff, I suggest that all males snip of the tip of their “noodly appendages” to demonstrate their sincerity. Gives new meaning to “YAAARRRGH!”
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To all of my scientifically oriented Pastafarian friends who try vainly to get the religiosos to think.
Here is a book that is FREE online at the website of Bob Altmeyer, The Authoritarians. It is a real scientific study of this flock of sheep and their leaders.
It will probably not make our job any easier, but it may help ease our frustration by showing that it is not our teaching skills that are lacking, but that it was built into these sheep at an early age.
Please spread the word.
RAmen
Bob
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I have to say a few things. first as a Christian I think other christians need to remember God has a sense of humor. How do I know this? Well aside from the bible which says so the platypus comes to mind. As for the evolution vs Creationism sillyneess (lets not give it airs by calling it a debate) I think its a testimony to the sliding standards in teaching critical thinking and science in schools. Creatinoism, or Inteligent Design for those who want to give it airs is so blatently religion and not scientificI still wonder why any remotely inteligent people argue the point. Do I think religion should be taught in school? Absolutely. I took an excelent world cultures class in High School that dealt inteligently and impartialy with the worlds major religions. Understanding religions and their teachings might help clear up a lot of stupidity. Do I think Religion should be taught as science or that a single religion shuold be taught as “truth” in any public school? Hell no.
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Kevin, if all christians were as christian as you, the world would be a better place.
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I am Catholic, and also a salesman/minister in the Church of the Subgenius. We are very exclusive but I hereby announce that you are all honorary salesmen. Hail BOB! And remember it could be worse…they could be Scientologist.
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I think that somebody needs to post these…
1. I’d really rather you didn’t act like a sanctimonious holier-than-thou ass when describing my noodly goodness. If some people don’t believe in me, that’s okay. Really, I’m not that vain. Besides, this isn’t about them so don’t change the subject.
2. I’d really rather you didn’t use my existence as a means to oppress, subjugate, punish, eviscerate, and/or, you know, be mean to others. I don’t require sacrifices, and purity is for drinking water, not people.
3. I’d really rather you didn’t judge people for the way they look, or how they dress, or the way they talk, or, well, just play nice, okay? Oh, and get this into your thick heads: woman = person. man = person. Samey = Samey. One is not better than the other, unless we’re talking about fashion and I’m sorry, but I gave that to women and some guys who know the difference between teal and fuchsia.
4. I’d really rather you didn’t indulge in conduct that offends yourself, or your willing, consenting partner of legal age AND mental maturity. As for anyone who might object, I think the expression is “go fuuuuuudge yourself,” unless they find that offensive in which case they can turn off the TV for once and go for a walk for a change.
5. I’d really rather you didn’t challenge the bigoted, misogynistic, hateful ideas of others on an empty stomach. Eat, then go after the bitches.
6. I’d really rather you didn’t build multi million-dollar synagogues / churches / temples / mosques / shrines to my noodly goodness when the money could be better spent (take your pick):
1. Ending poverty
2. Curing diseases
3. Living in peace, loving with passion, and lowering the cost of cable
I might be a complex-carbohydrate omniscient being, but I enjoy the simple things in life. I ought to know. I AM the creator.
7. I’d really rather you didn’t go around telling people I talk to you. You’re not that interesting. Get over yourself. And I told you to love your fellow man, can’t you take a hint?
8. I’d really rather you didn’t do unto others as you would have them do unto you if you are into, um, stuff that uses a lot of leather/lubricant/vaseline. If the other person is into it, however (pursuant to #4), then have at it, take pictures, and for the love of Mike, wear a CONDOM! Honestly, it’s a piece of rubber. If I didn’t want it to feel good when you did it I would have added spikes, or something.
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Count me in.
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BTW, I prefer Snow, the skiable kind, to Hail.
More pirates, less global warming, good thing.
Ale is good too, all ale the FSM!
(I was a founder back in 1964, at Cal Berkeley.)
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at least some people love the environment:
http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-gets-massive-support-in-sweden-081226/
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@ Douglas Keachie,
I was there too. See my application #2702 in the Comment on the Open Letter thread. As you know, our FSM was misnamed by the Press, but I experienced him/her/ there then. It’s good to have you here now. May the sauce be with you. BTW check-out http://www.theauthoritarians.com for a study of these religious folks.
RAmen
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I don’t see why they couldn’t let students study this, Kathy Martin. The FSM is real, and you shall be sent to the Underground Freezer Of Doom, if you don’t convert. The FSM has been cloudibng your mind with this ‘Science’ stuff, Its time you woke up and smelled the Meat Sauce. You will see soon that Pirates are needed to lower Global Warming, So I’m right ready to become one as soon as possible. Maybe that will save the world.
The FSM is with you at these difficult times converting. You should try this to convert – Throw a Noodle Skywards. If it sticks to the ceiling, carry on. If it doesn’t… Carry on. You must then consume the noodle by sucking it in making an audible slurp.
Yours in Alphabetty Sphaghetti,
Yaarr!
And His parrot, FishCakes.
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I love this site! I just can’t believe so many people actually think we view this as a real religion! They call us dumb and stupid and promise we will burn in hell but honestly how stupid do they think we are?? This was obviously created for fun and it has become something similiar to the Chuthulu stuff. I for one am a Christian but I am not stupid enough to think that anyone actually follows FSMism. If that were the case I would like to introduce his noodelyness to my favorite Deity the Prancing Cinnamon Roll! She is a sweet kind and caring goddess who loves everyone and rains down yummy cinnamon bits and icing on her favored followers! We Pastryist would love to meet you pastafarians and have a nice conference about how our Deities are similar and different. As for the other people who call themselves Christian and then think that this is an actual religion I say to you, “Open thine eyes and look at this in the way it was intended before his noodelyness joins her cinnamonosity and they both open them for you before first tossing you in the eternal boiling pot and then into the oven of condemnation!
Filly
P.S. I love this sight and it has even given me some ideas for my college class on argument based research!LOL
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Thank you very much, Bobby, for your wonderful faith (which I have pledged myself to follow). The letter you wrote is fantastic, and I plan on pimping it and the faith wherever I can. Seriously, hilarious, I love all of it – my favorite is the pinning of random data to coincide with your theories (i.e., the global warming graph). Spot on. Just your wording in the letter is great – “who is of course invisible and able to pass easily through solid matter.” Much love, from an atheist logical nerd with a sense of humor. :-)
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I have long considered joinging this religion… but have yet to hear of any cool holidays. Where are the cool holidays?
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I must say I am very glad to have had a tremendous experience last night…I was wandering the forest near my home, lost, scared, slightly hungry, when I came upon a hill. I scaled this hill and as I rose to the top a set of fine Italian restaurant menues appeared in front of me…listing none other than the 10 Best Spaghetti dishes that one must live by. I have found all the dishes absolutely amazing and can only spread the word of the discovery I have made.
BTW……for those who love all things musical, visit myspace.com/ultimate747 you will enjoy.
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@1222- almost any night you go to an italian restaraunt, and of course, Talk Like A Pirate Day (sept. 19). :)
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@- mimi #1223,
Welcome aboard; There’s Pastover, Easter, Ramendan, Halloween, Intl. Talk Like A Pirate Day, and Friday. And all others that we can squeeze in. You might want to buy a copy of The Gospel of the FSM; it covers a lot of useful material. May the sauce be with you.
RAmen
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how can we get the gospel of the fsm into hotel rooms?
do we have to get mormons to donate them or something?
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@1225
I will scoop one up soon and may the sauce be with you as well.
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@ – Fillygirl #1218,
Please go to the “About” tab, read the material there, and then read the Open Letter. Find out what this website is all about. Right now as we post, the Louisiana legislature has given its public school teachers the authority to teach religion in its public school science classes and the Mississippi legislature is preparing to do the same (Ref: – Wench Nikkiee, and Dan in the “Comment on the Open Letter” thread). Pastafarians believe very strongly that religion must be strictly excluded from public school science classes. Beyond that dogma, our orthodox beliefs are about as unified as a herd of cats. We have no animosity toward people of any faith that do not attack us. Please post your own message to any offending government agency, or else join us.
RAmen
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You are all going to hell. I know.
Everyone knows that the real God lives in heaven and has a club-footed son named Jesus who up until recently was working in a roadside diner off I-40 near Shamrock Texas. He decided not to go back to heaven after his local government had him executed 2000 years ago. It turns out that when he didn’t show up in heaven after his execution, God sent his sister to earth to send him home and sort things out with the humans who killed his son, and the only thing that is holding back his sister from kicking ass and taking names is the fact that Jesus is still here, hiding from his sis…His sis really doesn’t want him whacked along with all the humans and so she’s looking for him so she can send him home and then she’ll do her business. And her business is wiping out mankind. Period.
And that’s the way it really is right now. How do I know? Well, that’s kind of hard to explain, but I got stuck here on earth because I committed marijuana suicide. (It was old school. I loaded up a wheelbarrow with about 4 kilos of of good bud, and set it ablaze in a sealed room and went to sleep and was fast asleep until some ahole named Cotton Mather woke me up. It turns out that if you screw around with witchcraft or commit marijuana suicide then instead of going beyond, you get stuck here on earth running interference for Jesus to protect him from his sister, so she can’t send him home and wipe everyone out. Jesus is still trying to get folks to do the right thing, like he taught them and like he told Matthew to write down, but so far he hasn’t succeeded, and I don’t think he ever will. He’s a dreamer though, and he still thinks mankind is worth saving. Of course his sister is running around making things as bad as she can in order to keep Dad convinced that she should be allowed to wipe everyone out. That’s what she likes to do with beings that decided to kill God’s son, a guy who did nothing other than tell folks to get real and love each other.
So, anyhow, you FSM people are all going to hell because you are a creation of Jesus’ sister and she’s trying to destroy the world. If you look in the midst of your flock, you will see a tall, willowy woman with reddish gold hair and green eyes, in her middle years, who is pretty friendly with a good sense of humor. When you find her, be careful. If you really piss her off, you will cease to exist…permanently. So, be careful those of you who have subscribed to the tenets of the FSM, even as a joke. She caused the FSM to come into your minds as just another assault on those who are standing between her and getting her brother back home, so she can wipe out mankind.
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Oh, Lord, why do you let me do the things I do. Please let the Lithium kick in so I can get the FSM out of my mind. Oh, Lord, I know there are those who think the FSM is but a humorous confounding variable dropped into the Evolution/ID-Creationist equation, but I know it is the work of She Who Comes To Destroy. She whose true name dare not be uttered. She who seeks her Brother. She who is Your Daughter. Please, Lord, intercede on man’s behalf, yet one more day, to keep her from finding your Son. Please, Lord, give mankind time to get it straight so your Son can go home a winner and She can’t wipe us out. Please Lord! Let me go so I don’t have to spend one more day with Cotton Mather. He’s driving me nuts.
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Avast, Pastafarians,
Please note that the February issue of Smithsonian Magazine is out with a dual special feature on two persons, born on the same day, February 12, 1809. It notes the special and continuing influence of both, Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin. Of Darwin’s book, “On the Origin of Species”, one of the articles says,”…Perhaps alone among scientific works, it remains scientifically relevant 150 years after its debut.” Let us celebrate Darwin on his 200th birthday for the month of February, and remember that whatever ignorance the hate mailers and troglodyte school boards hurl at us, we are right, and our cause is just.
RAmen
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if i were to join this religion, would it be blasphemy if i ate spaghetti?
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In nigeria recently a thief being pursed by police changed into a goat to avoid capture. The goat was caught however, was arrested, & is being held for questioning. This story was verified by the police, & since police are professionals, trained in critical thinking skills, I’ve accepted the story as true. As a scientist I find that my whole concept of the universe & all physical relationships has been called into question. I resigned my job as the chief theoretical physicist at the Large Hadron collider in switzerland & am now desparately searching for the “real truth” to replace the false one i’ve been pursuing my entire life. The only truth that makes sense to me is the church of fsm but I don’t like spaghetti. What should I do?
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@ – anonymous #1240,
Not at all. In fact, it can be considered a sacrament that provides pleasure, and nutrition, and contentment. These are all good things. See the Gospel of the FSM.
RAmen
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@ anonymous. You’re supposed to eat spaghetti. It’s good for you and if prepared properly, tastes amazing! If the FSM didn’t want you to eat it, it simply wouldn’t exist. Okay?
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I still have to wonder why and how these ridiculous ideas about teaching religion in science classes are getting through. Are the fundies that powerful and the intelligentsia so weak? something has to be done.
Up here in Canada a Seik; kind of like a Hindu; won a court case allowing him to wear his turban on a construction site instead of a hard-hat because of his religion. Insane! Last year one tried to get past the motorcycle helmet law by claiming the same thing. Fortunately that one didn’t get through. At the risk of sounding racist, I have to wonder what would happen to me if I tried the same thing in their country.
In the post office a woman was let go because she refused to wear the standard slacks that everyone wears because she wanted to wear her sari. Her job in the station required her to climb small ladders and her supervisor told her it was for her safety but she took it as a restriction against her religion and took it to court. That too didn’t get through but I do know that eventually if and when enough people press hard enough that religious wear will supersede safety. Ya gotta wonder!
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Hack again?!
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I don’t mean to start some esoteric discussion about how many pirates can dance on the head of a Manhattan Kansanite or anything, but I’m troubled by something. In his omnipotence, can the Flying Spaghetti Monster create an apparent logical inference that is so convincing even he cannot deny it?
T
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Wow. The message from Mrs. Kathy Martin is rediculus. What offense is it? There is no law against offending “God”. Its hilarious for an adult that works with school to say something like that.
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@ jeremykeys #1244,
I’ve worked on oil refineries, and safety is a top concern there. It matters not who you are or what your position; if you are on the refinery grounds, you will follow the safety rules and wear the required safety equipment. I think that it’s politicians who haven’t got the Kahones to tell people, “It’s the safety equipment or it’s your job. You choose.” I don’t like hard hats or Nomex overalls, or steel-toed boots, but I wear them on the jobs where required; they save lives and prevent injuries. Even signed safety disclaimers are not good enough. If a 3/4″ nut falls three stories, it will go right through a turban, and the blood, mess, and cleanup, and the subsequent paperwork will not be worth the time lost on the job, even if the disclaimer prevents a law suit. Even then, the widow and children of the righteous idiot will need a source of support.
Be sure that wherever you work that you use the proper safety equipment. In a neolithic society, the wearing of the religious amulets may appear to protect one from animals, and brigands, and accidents, but in this society, the Post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc argument is just as much of a logical fallacy as it was then, but much more dangerous.
Ramen
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How dare you disgusting heathens take the name of our Flying Spaghetti Monster in vain. The lot of you should repent to avoid being thrown into the eternal lake of Marinara Sauce!
The comments on this blog are sacreligious and appaling. The sins you have commmited will result in your eternal suffering…our Flying Spaghetti Monster has blessed us with His bread and His pasta, and those on this site take that for granted.
It is written word, the FSM is the only True God.
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