Comments on: Comment on the Open Letter http://www.venganza.org Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:22:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Kevin http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-898297 Kevin Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:39:37 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-898297 the fsm is pretty funny but seriously - where did stuff come from? how did planet size rocks, stars/suns, gases come to be? we need to ask ourselves if we really believe something came from nothing and life came out of no life. where did seeds come from? a sequoyah tree seed is tiny and out of the seed comes the largest living thing on earth. just a few questions to get the noodle thinking. the fsm is pretty funny but seriously – where did stuff come from? how did planet size rocks, stars/suns, gases come to be? we need to ask ourselves if we really believe something came from nothing and life came out of no life. where did seeds come from? a sequoyah tree seed is tiny and out of the seed comes the largest living thing on earth. just a few questions to get the noodle thinking.

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]]> By: Jey http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-898295 Jey Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:12:19 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-898295 The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster by Bobby Henderson I am going to buy this Gospel so I can pray to the Him. He who created all of the world and us. Hail to Holy Spagheti Monster. Let us pray brothers ans sisters, AMEN. The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster by Bobby Henderson
I am going to buy this Gospel so I can pray to the Him.

He who created all of the world and us.

Hail to Holy Spagheti Monster.

Let us pray brothers ans sisters, AMEN.

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]]> By: Gordon_UK http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-898235 Gordon_UK Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:20:27 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-898235 To Dontbestupid & Blackblade4 As you seem to be experts in Intelligent Design maybe you can explain why I have a coxis? Or why the nerve to my Larynx goes from my brain via the hart? The design doesn’t seem very intelligent. Blackblade4 Your argument lacked any substance and seems to be just a rehash of a bland attack you found on the internet. Though it was quite funny, I liked the bit about vampire bats which would have been “the death knell for the mammalian species” and therefore disproves Darwin! It seems the author missed one small error on this, as bats are nocturnal i.e. feed at night all the mammals would be sleeping and as bats hunt using sonar they would look like part of the landscape. Dontbestupid Intolerable? We are only reacting to people like yourself, remember you came to this site and I can see no other reason you would do that but to attack us. You also said that “there IS lots of scientific evidence supporting the concept of intelligent design”, well where is it? So far nothing testable has been provided unlike Darwinism! Next time bring proof. RAmen Gordon To Dontbestupid & Blackblade4

As you seem to be experts in Intelligent Design maybe you can explain why I have a coxis? Or why the nerve to my Larynx goes from my brain via the hart? The design doesn’t seem very intelligent.

Blackblade4
Your argument lacked any substance and seems to be just a rehash of a bland attack you found on the internet.

Though it was quite funny, I liked the bit about vampire bats which would have been “the death knell for the mammalian species” and therefore disproves Darwin! It seems the author missed one small error on this, as bats are nocturnal i.e. feed at night all the mammals would be sleeping and as bats hunt using sonar they would look like part of the landscape.

Dontbestupid
Intolerable? We are only reacting to people like yourself, remember you came to this site and I can see no other reason you would do that but to attack us.

You also said that “there IS lots of scientific evidence supporting the concept of intelligent design”, well where is it? So far nothing testable has been provided unlike Darwinism!

Next time bring proof.

RAmen
Gordon

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]]> By: Peter snyders http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-898129 Peter snyders Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:54:16 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-898129 i would like to say thanks you for finally standing up to the mainstream religions, though i myself am not a pastafarian i am very grateful for something greater then possibility of "learning" intelligent design theory, which though due to my Australian schooling i have so far been protected from, is being offered to students like myself. i would also like to note that if when i die i raise my eyes to see in front of me the noodelly savior before my eyes i will willingly wear the garb of a pirate and bow to his tenticaly will. P.s. i would also like to say to all the other religions *ahem* Christianity (but their are other offenders): we have been putting up with your faiths, you inquisitions, your crusades, your attempts to destroy individuality and other "pagan" religions, your ridiculous hats that look like bullets (i'm talking to you pope), so just put up, shut up and get together and wait for judgment day with a smile as we will finally find out who is right, who's in hell, or who was reincarnated as a bunny, i know who my moneys (or soul as the case may be) is on. and it isn't the bunny. P.P.s i would appreciate it if this message was received in a more public spot of the website. i would like to say thanks you for finally standing up to the mainstream religions, though i myself am not a pastafarian i am very grateful for something greater then possibility of “learning” intelligent design theory, which though due to my Australian schooling i have so far been protected from, is being offered to students like myself. i would also like to note that if when i die i raise my eyes to see in front of me the noodelly savior before my eyes i will willingly wear the garb of a pirate and bow to his tenticaly will.

P.s. i would also like to say to all the other religions *ahem* Christianity (but their are other offenders): we have been putting up with your faiths, you inquisitions, your crusades, your attempts to destroy individuality and other “pagan” religions, your ridiculous hats that look like bullets (i’m talking to you pope), so just put up, shut up and get together and wait for judgment day with a smile as we will finally find out who is right, who’s in hell, or who was reincarnated as a bunny, i know who my moneys (or soul as the case may be) is on. and it isn’t the bunny.

P.P.s i would appreciate it if this message was received in a more public spot of the website.

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]]> By: logicnow http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-898108 logicnow Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:32:48 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-898108 LMAO I love it!!!!!!!! {:o) Bobby, normally I don't comment on blogs but this was an absolute MUST! I can't express in words how brilliant you are, so I prayed to FSM and was led by Him to just come here and write whatever I could. Indeed, His spirit led me here, and since I'm here, that proves He must be real!!!!! On that note, I do believe the Christians have the right idea of forcing their beliefs to be taught in school. I do, because I believe FSM should be taught in schools as well, and I know if Christians get away with forcing their religious beliefs on others, we can then use their new system of global forced religion to introduce FSM into the mainstream school system. And I don't expect they would complain, seeing as how it was their own idea to make religious teaching mandatory for school children. You see, it all works out perfectly! PS - Tho I don't know you, I am very proud of the human race on account of you. Hopefully you'll make a difference. It's people like you who usually do! LMAO I love it!!!!!!!! {:o)

Bobby, normally I don’t comment on blogs but this was an absolute MUST! I can’t express in words how brilliant you are, so I prayed to FSM and was led by Him to just come here and write whatever I could. Indeed, His spirit led me here, and since I’m here, that proves He must be real!!!!! On that note, I do believe the Christians have the right idea of forcing their beliefs to be taught in school. I do, because I believe FSM should be taught in schools as well, and I know if Christians get away with forcing their religious beliefs on others, we can then use their new system of global forced religion to introduce FSM into the mainstream school system. And I don’t expect they would complain, seeing as how it was their own idea to make religious teaching mandatory for school children. You see, it all works out perfectly!

PS – Tho I don’t know you, I am very proud of the human race on account of you. Hopefully you’ll make a difference. It’s people like you who usually do!

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]]> By: shaney http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-897795 shaney Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:33:06 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-897795 To Dontbestupid & blackblade4 It looks as though you have looked for information with regards to natural selection. This information http://www.tdtone.org/evolution/TDTns.htm it is good that you are seeking answers. Why not look at the other side of the theory, whether it confirms your beliefs or opens your eyes at least you will have two points of view. I suggest buying this book or even better the audio book, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Greatest-Show-Earth-Evidence-Evolution/dp/1846571758/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258448722&sr=8-3 “Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.”…………. Albert Einstein The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper……. Eden Phillpotts: The people of earth once worshiped the sun, believe the world was flat and the universe revolved around the earth. Many scientists paid a heavy price for their theories, thankfully logic and time have helped us see some truth. Or has it, most of humanity still believes in one of the reincarnations of the sun god. Most humans have little interest in the global world, fear ties them to there tiny unbending world. As for the universe, let’s face it most people think the world revolves around them………S Medhurst To Dontbestupid & blackblade4
It looks as though you have looked for information with regards to natural selection.
This information http://www.tdtone.org/evolution/TDTns.htm it is good that you are seeking answers. Why not look at the other side of the theory, whether it confirms your beliefs or opens your eyes at least you will have two points of view.
I suggest buying this book or even better the audio book, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Greatest-Show-Earth-Evidence-Evolution/dp/1846571758/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258448722&sr=8-3

“Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.”…………. Albert Einstein

The universe is full of magical things, patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper……. Eden Phillpotts:

The people of earth once worshiped the sun, believe the world was flat and the universe revolved around the earth.
Many scientists paid a heavy price for their theories, thankfully logic and time have helped us see some truth.
Or has it, most of humanity still believes in one of the reincarnations of the sun god.
Most humans have little interest in the global world, fear ties them to there tiny unbending world.
As for the universe, let’s face it most people think the world revolves around them………S Medhurst

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]]> By: Orestes http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-897743 Orestes Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:16:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-897743 Please, be nice! Everyone trying to offend the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster and its believers is just jealous their god isnt as awesome! Please understand your religion makes no sense - let it go! Noah couldnt possibly have saved the koalas! Him and his folk didn't even know Australia existed back then! You are fortunate that The Flying Spaghetti Monster is chilled out and not a vengeful god. Please, be nice! Everyone trying to offend the Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster and its believers is just jealous their god isnt as awesome! Please understand your religion makes no sense – let it go! Noah couldnt possibly have saved the koalas! Him and his folk didn’t even know Australia existed back then! You are fortunate that The Flying Spaghetti Monster is chilled out and not a vengeful god.

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]]> By: Dontbestupid http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-897471 Dontbestupid Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:40:42 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-897471 Thank You Blackblade 4! Darwinist today are acting just as intolerable as religious fanatics have been over the centuries. The largest flaw in this satire is that there IS lots of scientific evidence supporting the concept of intelligent design, it has just been supressed by the dominant scientific community, exactly the way that heliocentrism was blasphemied when it was introduced. This scientific evidence has nothing to do with religion, only logical conclusions. At the very least, there are lots and lots of holes in Darwin's Theory, so much that it is a pitiful joke of a theory, with little to no scientific backing whatsoever. To make these claims with such confidence is so... ignorant. I am not in any way "preaching" a religion, just pointing out the complete inconsistency and hypocrosy of the argument this satire was meant to make. Ben Stein's movie "Expelled" might be a good place to start, or simply a google search. Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: Rory King http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-897090 Rory King Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:13:59 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-897090 All hail His holy apendage! All hail His holy apendage!

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]]> By: Morigun http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-897063 Morigun Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:07:40 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-897063 Seriously, why do you people who are so religious and consider this to be absolute heretical blasphemy even bother to come to this site and bash it. Learn to help yourselves before trying to claim you know how to save everyone else from all these unspeakable horrors. Learn to freaking laugh at yourselves a bit as well and don't take offense to everything. You do realize that taking God's name in vain is a sin and disobeying one of the ten commandments. Go punish yourself every-time you say "Oh my God" or the like. So you do freak on anyone that says this and yes, OMG still counts. Seriously, why do you people who are so religious and consider this to be absolute heretical blasphemy even bother to come to this site and bash it. Learn to help yourselves before trying to claim you know how to save everyone else from all these unspeakable horrors. Learn to freaking laugh at yourselves a bit as well and don’t take offense to everything. You do realize that taking God’s name in vain is a sin and disobeying one of the ten commandments. Go punish yourself every-time you say “Oh my God” or the like. So you do freak on anyone that says this and yes, OMG still counts.

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]]> By: Johnathan Daniel Ralls http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-897059 Johnathan Daniel Ralls Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:39:30 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-897059 And as the holy Flying Spaghetti Monster with his/her/its noodley appendage reached down through the bear volcanoes and the stripper factory, into my life and blessed me with the power to speak out about his divine grace, i thank you FSM for your intervention and pray for all of you that his noodleyness will touch your souls as well. RAMAN And as the holy Flying Spaghetti Monster with his/her/its noodley appendage reached down through the bear volcanoes and the stripper factory, into my life and blessed me with the power to speak out about his divine grace, i thank you FSM for your intervention and pray for all of you that his noodleyness will touch your souls as well. RAMAN

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]]> By: Katie http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-896673 Katie Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:16:19 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-896673 You guys just basically hilight all the ways that all the other religions teach so much bullshit and you have friggin converted me, add me to your million plus members (Y). Most religions leave so much out and only put in the bits that control people in the ay the present government want and anything new discovered would be held back s as not to make them look like FOOLS. I am officially writing this on all forms and will be telling everyone about it in R.E. We'll see if i get put back on report for it. Ha Freaking Legend You guys just basically hilight all the ways that all the other religions teach so much bullshit and you have friggin converted me, add me to your million plus members (Y).

Most religions leave so much out and only put in the bits that control people in the ay the present government want and anything new discovered would be held back s as not to make them look like FOOLS.

I am officially writing this on all forms and will be telling everyone about it in R.E.
We’ll see if i get put back on report for it.
Ha

Freaking Legend

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]]> By: RJ http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-896397 RJ Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:02:48 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-896397 By far the best thing I've seen on the internet, and there's some awesome porn out there...so, quite an achievement. By far the best thing I’ve seen on the internet, and there’s some awesome porn out there…so, quite an achievement.

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]]> By: Jesso http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-896384 Jesso Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:10:03 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-896384 So, I guess Satan (3719) can't read? Because he obviously missed the "READ THIS FIRST" part on the homepage, or he is just illiterate and doesn't know what satire means... You also obviously have a wonderful grasp on vocabulary when you need to lace everything you say with curse words. I would prefer to hear from you how this is any different from any other "bullcrap shit" religion on this planet. Oh, and we are all laughing. At your expense. (And you obviously have not much of a life either if you took the time to post on this website). So, I guess Satan (3719) can’t read? Because he obviously missed the “READ THIS FIRST” part on the homepage, or he is just illiterate and doesn’t know what satire means… You also obviously have a wonderful grasp on vocabulary when you need to lace everything you say with curse words. I would prefer to hear from you how this is any different from any other “bullcrap shit” religion on this planet.

Oh, and we are all laughing. At your expense.

(And you obviously have not much of a life either if you took the time to post on this website).

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]]> By: Trey http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-896304 Trey Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:12:50 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-896304 P.s. 3710 AKA fore_eyes16, you little rebel you, trying not to follow the crowd! :) you clearly have not read the responses that out good prophet Bobby recieved from the school board. i assure you that is as legit as it gets. may his noodliness touch you in all the right places. RAmen! :) P.s.
3710 AKA fore_eyes16, you little rebel you, trying not to follow the crowd! :) you clearly have not read the responses that out good prophet Bobby recieved from the school board. i assure you that is as legit as it gets. may his noodliness touch you in all the right places.

RAmen! :)

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]]> By: Trey http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-896294 Trey Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:25:56 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-896294 "Omg what a fucking waste of time it was making this!" good job at waisting your type sending a response 'Satan' or whatever your name is, last time i checked 'Satan(real or not) doesn't, nor never had, a life, so good job at calling the kettle black. you got a great laugh, so did I. Thanks for keeping me entertained. :) “Omg what a fucking waste of time it was making this!” good job at waisting your type sending a response ‘Satan’ or whatever your name is, last time i checked ‘Satan(real or not) doesn’t, nor never had, a life, so good job at calling the kettle black. you got a great laugh, so did I. Thanks for keeping me entertained. :)

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]]> By: jtcyler@vatican.it http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-896255 jtcyler@vatican.it Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:11:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-896255 Ho pensato che avrei dovuto dire ciao dal Vaticannelloni migliori saluti Uovo Benedetto II Papa di tutte le tagliatelle Ho pensato che avrei dovuto dire ciao dal Vaticannelloni

migliori saluti

Uovo Benedetto II
Papa di tutte le tagliatelle

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]]> By: Satan http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-896030 Satan Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:15:39 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-896030 What the hell kind of bullcrap shit is this!? 4year old's would have been ashamed if the saw this site! Omg what a fucking waste of time it was making this! You can't have ANY life at all! But hey... I got a great laugh thou ;) Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: blackblade4 http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-895403 blackblade4 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:19:26 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-895403 As for evolution I found 16 errors on the internet. presented by The Doubting Thomas http://www.tdtone.org/evolution/TDTns.htm [ 1. There is no connection at all between the two concepts "artificial selection" and(Darwinian) "Natural Selection". 2. The belief in evolution, per se, is based on several logical fallacies, one in particular, a "post hoc propter hoc" type of argument. 3.Belief that "selection" of some kind is the cause of evolution, is an example of the process of inverse reasoning, properly called "inverse logic", which is also a logical fallacy. 4. The idea that any type of action (a "cause") outside of the life of the organism is the cause of evolution is a "cause/effect" reversal. 5. Darwinian Natural Selection is ubiquitous: Kettlewell's experiment with the moths (supposedly demonstrating selection) is no proof of any aspect of evolution. 6. The cause of diversity is not a "selection" process; for analogy, this concept is supported by the operation of a hypothetical Natural Selection "machine". The output of the machine (like evolution) is not caused by any form of selection, as one might conclude, rather it is a phenomenon which is unknown. Survival of the Fittest 7. Darwinists define the two terms, Natural Selection and Survival of the Fittest, by their effects on organisms, as opposed to stating a detailed description of the process, or mechanism of operation, of either term; they are thus each, a non-sequitor. 8. The term Survival of the Fittest is a tautology. It predicts an undefined winner which can only be identified by the outcome of the competition in which the competitor is engaged. 9. Survival of the Fittest is also ambiguous, a misleading term that is unscientific. 10. All organisms such as the Oak tree, Fruit Fly, and others, have aspects of their organisms which are not the "fittest" by any definition. 11. If Darwin's theory was truly in operation, the number of species would be reduced from what is now evident. 12. The "fitness" of species is limited by a factor unknown to Science. 13. The "Malthusian" concept would not effect "evolution" except as to the "rate" of evolution; it promotes stasis rather than evolution. 14. Darwin's theory can neither explain the existence of the wide variety of open niches which exist on this planet, nor can any principles or laws it establishes explain the characteristics of current existing or non-existing species, or proto-species to fill the open niches. Two Themes involving Science, used in the study of Evolution: The “Five Senses Hypothesis” 15. Science Studies almost invariably operate under an assumption, not a part of Science, but rather a proper consideration of Philosophy. This assumption is called "naturalism". As science, it is erroneous. 16. Currently, the most prevalent interpretation of Darwinism virtually excludes all other I am a Bible bleaving christain. Thanks Blackblade4 Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: doug simpson http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/discussion/#comment-894661 doug simpson Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:24:56 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/about/open-letter/open-letter-comments/#comment-894661 Dude FSM is fuckin awesome. You guys rule Dude FSM is fuckin awesome. You guys rule

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