2368 Responses to “Comment on the Open Letter”

1. 61 - September 19th, 2006 at 9:08 pm - Daniel Says:
   
   

   Not that wikipedia is the best or most reliable source…but the problem, California Boy, is not whether or not we believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but that you are so closed minded that you think that God _had_ to create the Earth in the fallacious way delineated by Intelligent Design.

   Rather than let rot the gray matter between your ears, use it, to think, to explore, to understand just _what_ the Evolutionists think, and why they think it, and pray to the god you worship to come to an understanding and peace of the knowledge S/He has helped us learn and the hints at his marvelous works.

   Have you seen what reasonable, thinking people have done in Kansas? http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5989687,00.html
   It doesn’t sound like it from your posts. This is what happened: Conservative Republicans who pushed anti-evolution standards back into Kansas schools last year have lost control of the state Board of Education once again.

   What does this mean? That we’re not teaching pseudo-science in the classroom.

   Be ye Touched.
   RAmen.

2. 62 - September 19th, 2006 at 11:44 pm - Matey, with pasta on the Platey Says:
   
   

   What unbelievable replies from the Christian blasphemers! Their concepts of how science works could not be more flawed.

   The ironies are nearly as delicious as the pasta we celebrate.

   I love the post by Nathanial, complaining about the gall of our church for daring to sell items that promote our beliefs.

   I suppose instead we should try to fear our followers into sending us money like the ‘real’ religions do on TV every sunday morning? Now there’s a true crime if there ever was one.

   No one has ever killed in the name of the FSM, or claimed that the FSM is on our side before sending troops into battle against cultures with other beliefs.

   Such a shame that the followers of the great pacifist Christ can’t say that.

   May your noodles be warm and firm, and your balls saucy and meaty.

   Ramen.

3. 63 - September 20th, 2006 at 5:38 am - uh.. Yeah.. Says:
   
   

   What has happened to the Schools? I thought schools were about Reading, (W)Righting and (A)Rithmatic.. and they were houses of “Learing” why are all the groups trying to push an agenda one way or another.. Why not actually TEACH something have more educated children that can read and write and let them make those types of choices for themselves.. NOT push anything on them one way or another in the house of LEARNING…..

4. 64 - September 20th, 2006 at 8:43 am - humanity Says:
   
   

   WB wrote: “You simply will not find this supposed evidence.”
   This is a sign of panic. Notice, also, the arrogant tone. I hope this individual is not a science teacher. Attention WB - science is all about finding evidence, NOT your ‘don’t bother looking cuz it’s not there’ bullshit. I’ve heard of other people affected in a negative way by reading long, baseless posts, like the one by WB, and it almost happened to me. Bless you FSM, for nudging my elbow with your noodly appendage, and aiding in my response.
   RAmen.

5. 65 - September 20th, 2006 at 9:11 am - TheTree Says:
   
   

   You are a true genius, I will now become a pirate a fight global warming. Aaaarrr!

6. 66 - September 20th, 2006 at 9:23 am - Sun Tzu Says:
   
   

   Finally, someone understands what I was talking about. “War” has been translated incorrectly for too long. The piece I wrote was called “The Art of the Spaghetti Fight,”.

   Much more fun. Much less blood.

   The beginning of my text, with proper translation in CAPS should thus read as follows:

   “The art of THE SPAGHETTI FIGHT (not “war”)is of vital importance to the PLATE (not “State”). Silly Translators.

   His Divine Sauciness has allowed me to return to you that I might correct this error via your “internet” (we refer to it as the INTER-PLATE) in the tomatoey hereafter.

   I must now return to the glorious fields of pesto and parmesan — Black Beard and I have a Euchre game at 8:00.

   P.S. look into “The Dread Pirate Roberts” — big time Pastafarian prophet that one. Great at Charades.

   Noodle on.

   S.T.

7. 67 - September 20th, 2006 at 1:08 pm - WB Says:
   
   

   Brad: the information presented on wiki concerning origins and mitochondria is generally accepted by evolutionists… However, if you actually ask scientific questions (i.e. how did they find out this information?), as opposed to accepting it merely because some scientists say it is so, you will see that it is pure speculation. Basically, the theory (and it is just a theory) that mitochondira were originally earlier life forms is very similar to several other supposed evolutionary links in that it kind of seems to make sense at first due to certain similarites IF you assume that evolution is true. A whole myriad of biological theories have come about this way (ref. “Gap/mutation theory”, which is basically a response to the fact that evolution isn’t supported by the fossil record). However, if you don’t assume evolution, you will see that the evolution can’t really explain mitochondrial origins. A great many staunch evolutionists even the theory about mitchondira given on wiki… I wouldn’t use wiki alone as my source of such info, btw…
   “humanity”: straw men and ad hominems will not get you anywhere in a reasonable discussion. I never said one should not look for evidence… I welcome anyone to search the whole universe for evidence on origins, I merely challenge them to do so with an open mind, rather than with naturalistic assumptions.

8. 68 - September 20th, 2006 at 1:27 pm - Betty Says:
   
   

   Fewer pirates? I think that’s the fallacy of the global warming argument. Please consider a recount. We have lots of pirates - only now they wear suits and plunder through the stock market, drug and weapons trade, war contracts, etc.

9. 69 - September 20th, 2006 at 1:41 pm - puffaliaz Says:
   
   

   I was an atheist. Everyone got annoyed when I spent hours trying to convince them that there could be no ‘god’, but now I’ve seen the light of his noodlyness! Now I can spend the days trying to convert people!

10. 70 - September 20th, 2006 at 3:04 pm - Olli Says:
    
    

    My experience:
    First i thought this is just some stupid joke. I thought there’s no way some spaghetti with meat balls could have created everything *sigh*, its just doesn’t add up! What a childish idea.

    But just for the fun of it I looked at the evidence, read discussions and expert opinions. My world changed. I became a believer.

    I challenge everyone laughing or mocking at FSM to study its secrets before passing judgement. Or just go to some local pastafarian meeting to discuss about your beliefs, exceptations and pasta sauces.

11. 71 - September 20th, 2006 at 4:32 pm - Barry Silbergeld Says:
    
    

    As a Flying Spaghetti Monsterist,

    Touched by His Noodlely Appendage,

    I woke up this morning

    Looked around for my shoes

    That’s when I knew I’d had

    A string-cheese incident

    Only the strange remain when the FSM returns!

12. 72 - September 20th, 2006 at 4:35 pm - Ryan Says:
    
    

    WB, my argument wasn’t a straw man argument. Remembe, science deals only with the natural. My argument is based on Intelligent design vs. evolution being the main point of education. Personally, I don’t care if evolution is taught, but the theory of evolution was brought about in a scientific manner, and so long as it is taught as a theory, not as a fact, then it’s still got scientific merit. Intelligent Design bases its argument on there being a God, something that cannot be prove. Intelligent Design is a theory, but not a scientific theory. It’s a religious theory. Now, if you want to go with the young-earth as science, that’s fine by me, because that’s based on science. You’re suggestion that I committed a straw man fallacy is erronious because I didn’t claim that evolution is science fact, or that it has been proven. Evolution is a theory, a scientific theory, that explains a lot. However, it does not explain everything. It does leave holes. That doesn’t mean evolution is wrong, just that we don’t know everything we’d like to know. However, the science community has done studies, they’ve found fossiles, they’ve researched and researched. Evolution is a scientific theory. So is the young-earth theory. That’s science. But when you bring an intelligent designer into the process, that abandones science. I said I have no problem with ID being taught in a theology class, but I do have a problem with it being taught in a science class. Now, if science proves evolution false, then evolution will no longer be a scientific theory. If science proves it true, then evolution will become scientific fact. But I did not propose teaching evolution as scientific fact, either. Did I? Nope. In fact, this is exactly what I said: “While I have no problem with the theory of Intelligent Design, I do have a problem with it being taught as science. It abandones the scientific method. As such, it can’t possibly constitute a science of any kind. It’s a theoretical proposal that bases itself in an absence of evidence. To be science, it must base itself in the presence of evidence.” You then argued about a young-earth as a counter to my point. But young-earth theory doesn’t necessarily imply an intelligent designer. Unless you’re committing a logical fallacy, of course, but you wouldn’t do that, because you said yourself that fallacies aren’t good. And your second point, that evolution isn’t founded by any scientific method, is crazy. A problem was posed. A solution pro-posed. A hypothesis generated. And studies/tests done (these include fossiles, how you can say that fossiles aren’t evidence I’ll never understand). It doesn’t necessarily mean they have to be correct, but as long as they’re done, and the same results repeated from other scientists, then the theory is valid. So far, that seems to be the case. Now, we’re finding evidence that the earth may be younger than suspected. Fine. But that doesn’t imply an intelligent designer, nor does a “missing link” in evolution theory prove an intelligent designer. That’s the difference between intelligent design and evolution. We don’t have to prove that evolution is a fact, only that it follows the scientific method, and so far it has. We don’t have to prove ID false, or fact, only that it does or doesn’t follow the scientific method. And since you can’t test God, you can’t scientifically study ID. That makes it completely impossible. Remember, science is not exact or perfect, so we’re not looking for exact or perfect here, we’re only looking to see if it meets the requirements. Evolution theory has thus far, ID hasn’t.

13. 73 - September 20th, 2006 at 5:00 pm - Daniel Says:
    
    

    Ramen.

14. 74 - September 20th, 2006 at 5:45 pm - Ryan Says:
    
    

    I think pillaging is now in order… along with beer. Lots and lots of beer… and pillaging and plunder.

15. 75 - September 20th, 2006 at 11:00 pm - Ingmar Says:
    
    

    Great.
    from now on I will belief in the FSM. Everything makes sense. This MUST be the truth.
    RAmen.
    Ingmar, Germany

16. 76 - September 21st, 2006 at 12:03 am - Nikola Kos Says:
    
    

    I want to tell you, that I have information and evidence, that the FSM has left a big stone in Croatia on which are written all rules humans have to obey. I know it absolutely sure because I dreamed about it, or let us say, i hat a vision. It was so clear that I felt like my head was a videorecorder who is recording any thing. Now the problem is, that I don´t know exactly where the place I have seen is, but I am sure that it must be in Croatia because there where some drunken Policeman walking around. I think we should now find some people for searching this stone, because it has all answers we are looking for. And, as far as i know, if you carry it three times around a field the ones who carry it, die. Please write me an E Mail for telling me, what is to do. I am sure, the FSM is leading us in a very special direction. Ramen and Smalleluja

17. 77 - September 21st, 2006 at 1:19 am - Thaco Says:
    
    

    WB, just a question here… are you just that determined to be dense? Are you so scared that your religeon may be wrong that you cannot accept scientific FACT? I have spoken with many scientists (read PhD, and a couple of double PhD’s) and had them explain evidence THEY THEMSELVES have helped to provide the scientific community. The fact that mitochondria have their own dna, that they are symbiotic with our own cells is only ONE piece of evidence that they were once their own creatures.

    If evolution does not exist, as you seem to want to insist, then explain what happened in the 1500’s when the bubonic plague was sweeping through europe. We have found a SINGLE GENERATION MUTATION.. that is, in a period of a few months, a change in genetics to provide protection against this disease. We have found that those exposed to the AIDS virus who have never gotten it (but should have) had ancestors on both maternal and paternal sides who had this genetic mutation. Those who got sick with AIDS but have gone into a remission (been found mostly or completely clear of the virus) had ancestors on EITHER the maternal or paternal side with this mutation.

    How can you or anyone say that evolution does not happen? This evidence only serves to further prove out evolution. How much farther is it to leap from a disease prevention to other mutations (adaptations to environment) to help our survival? The ONLY “missing link” we have is in a step from Homo Erectus to Homo Sapiens… until then, the genetic mutations are clear, and easy to follow.

    Please actually learn those facts you so tout, and get in touch with the noodly reality.

    All Hail His Kind and Loving Noodliness, and the Sauce within which He dwells!

    RAmen!!

18. 78 - September 21st, 2006 at 1:24 am - Thaco Says:
    
    

    Oh… also… (Taken from a rant of 2 The Ranting Gryphon…) If you say that religeon is scientific enough to study ion science class, then you have to admit that science is religeous enough to teach in church!!

    One statement is as logical as the other.

    Also… pasta is godly.

    YarrrrRAmen!!

19. 79 - September 21st, 2006 at 1:50 am - Juannino Says:
    
    

    Betty - I hear you, and agree to a degree, however these dudes aren’t realy what His Noodlyness would call a bona fide pirate - they are a pale imitation. Lets face it these dudes are more like comparing a vulture to a bald eagle. Anyway I believe as much as we cannot know His mind that the FSM approves of the classical pirate concept as a matter of style rather than content. I mean the Catatonics have the market cornered on cross dressing and child molesting etc. Also speaking as a marketer it is essential to brand your product in an easily identifiable packaging to attract the target market. I believe that FSM in his infinate wisdom has realised the fallability of the creatures that he hath wrought and has given us the pirate as a means to focus our faith. And finaly - if we don’t He gets angry - possibly the most compelling argument.

20. 80 - September 21st, 2006 at 3:14 am - st01en_lox Says:
    
    

    ups…sorry(( not correct topic i’m too drunk… I’m st01en zasrancheg…
    fcuk
    ,,

    sorry arain

    P.S. st01en - lox

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