I wrote the Open Letter sometime around January of 2005 and posted it online several months later after receiving no reply from the Kansas School Board. Within days of posting it online, the letter became an internet phenomenon, generating tens of thousands of visits each day, as well as personal responses from the school board members themselves. To date (August 2006), the venganza website has received upwards of 350 million hits, and somewhere in the proximity of 15 million unique visits. This website operates on a dedicated server and uses 600 - 800 GB/month in bandwidth. I’ve received over 15,000 emails in response to the letter.
The letter, after being blogged heavily for months, was printed in several large newspapers, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Chicago Sun Times, and many others. The newspaper articles caught the attention of book publishers, and at one point there were six publishers interested in getting the Word of the Flying Spaghetti Monster out to the public. In the end, the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was released by Random House in March of 2006.
It’s now been over a year since the FSM phenomenon started. I hope that a year from now we will be recognized as a legitimate religious organization, with all the same benefits *and tax loopholes* that the mainstream religions enjoy.
Please leave me a comment on the Letter, the FSM movement as a whole, or whatever you like. Thanks,
-Bobby
I’m doing my Piratey Part for Global Warming.
Spread the Word!
All hail the Noodly Appendage
Having a pirate-themed party this year.
Ramen
this is the truth!!!! I hail the ghetti monster
what about cd pirates i they must not count
I repent my sins and look onward to an eternal life under the watchful appendage of pirate god
I am an ambassador of teh PLanet Strange. I would like to inform you of the great joy that fills our planet. We have recently decided to adopt a religion here, as we had none before now. The leading candidate for this position was pastafarianism, and I am pleased to announce that the vote was unanimous among each and every Strangian. We are now all proud members of the Chruch of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Ramen.
It is with great joy in my heart that I announce my immediate coversion to Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.
Ramen.
You have GOT to be kidding me…seriously. The reason I ask, is because I truly wonder how you can conclude that a “Flying Spaghetti Monster” created and ordained life from before there was ANYTHING. I really would be interested to see your premises and conclusion in a semi-logical format. The other thing, is that I hope and pray that you realize your dreadful inaccuracy and pray that God would forgive you of your blasphemies. They are truly dishonoring at the least. Praying that you change,
The RkticFox
I’m fairly certain that you don’t yourself believe we were created by a flying Spaghetti Monster (considering both spaghetti and the idea of monsters are both products of man’s creativity and imagination), but were simply trying to make a point on how Intelligent design shouldn’t be taught in school.
That is why I am a little confused as to why you said, “I think we can all agree that it is important for students to hear multiple viewpoints so they can choose for themselves the theory that makes the most sense to them.” Unless you actually believe in the Spaghetti Monster (in which case I would have to consider you slightly loony until I’ve seen half-substantial evidence), this sentece goes completely against the point of your letter.
There are other logical flaws in the letter and your claims but I have a feeling there is only so much ground logic holds for you. I can simply pray. As a Christian, I am appauled that you would blaspheme the name of THE POWERFUL GOD by comparing Him to a Spaghetti Monster. I know, however, that His Blood can wash away all sins and that nobody can escape the Love of My Lord Jesus Christ. My Heart Weeps for you…But my Lord spills not only His tears, but His blood for you….
With Love In Christ Alone,
Brianna
Sure! Why not? Makes as much sense as the “Theory” of Evolution!
You sir, are a genius of your age
I too am a believer in spahetti-monsterism. Each day I circumnavigate the perimeter of my dwelling, dribbling rancid tomato sauce from my mouth at random moments, as Rule 35,432,906 demands! . . . or is it 35,432,905? Correct me if I’m wrong. I truly meant no blasphemy.
Good work! Thank you!
I used to point out the possible existence of the giant dragon hiding on the far side of the moon, but I never writ it up.
Upon reading this, you have my full support. I’m off to buy an eyepatch and a wooden leg. And, the Gospel, of course.
Ramen.
Hey, I’m from Germany (so please ignore language misstakes) and I’ve just stumbled across your amazing site… I’ve found some stuff about the fsm earlier on wikipedia, but I’ve only now realized that this is actually a new church:) I just wanted to assure you of my support for your new but obviously true belives, personally I used to belive that the erarth was created as the result of a competion who could make the biggest pizza in the big italian resaurant somewere in space. This belive resulted out of the fact that the earth is flat and only varies on the top side just like a pizza. I’ve eaven managed to prove scintifically by various experiments how life evolved on this big pizza we call earth (I carefully stored a pice of pizza under my sofa, gave it some time… and voila there was life) but now I’ve extensivly read and reaserched about the fsm I had to change my religion an become a fsm believer…
so thank you for opening my eys…
MfG
I am appauled at the absurd response of Christians discussing the matter of Pastafarianism. I think it is a very clever way to belittle the arguments of the Kansas School Board, and also a way to show the author(and Creator’s opinion.) Why shouldn’t the Lord be a Spaghetti Monster? More to the point, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? Finally, where might I purchase full pirate regalia? I am getting mighty sick of Christians forcing their religion down my throat.
RAmen
I was trying to send my 16% monthly tithing, composed of spaghetti - with meatballs, of course, pizza, fish (and fish bones) and tomato juice to the cauldron of abyss but every time I tried, I ended up eating them. I hope the divine monster would not send his wrath of forks upon me.
Please have Gideon International, or a similar outfit, mass distribute the GOSPEL according to the most prolific FSM pirate prophets so that the good and not so good news would be propagated like spam email.
I (burp) thank you. RAmen.
I LOVE YOU!! tahst all I have to say, thats is the simply most beutifully written letter, and so, you now have my LOVe, of course not in teh romantic, sense, but whatever….I love you never the less.
You are truly a brilliant man, and a king amongst prophets. However, I am currently distressed. I am currently a pastafarian, however my wife is catholic. I’ve agreed to have our child baptized, so long as it is done in meatsauce and the service is performed by Johnny Depp in full regalia. Is that particularly blasphemous? Will our great lord forgive me this trespassing? Should I avoid having this done in a church so as not to offend the FSM? I was also wondering which the FSM prefers, Del Monte, or Newman’s Own? I don’t wish to offend him, or ruin the baptism. If it doesn’t make a difference, I prefer Newman’s myself. I look forward to your response wise and venerable leader.
this is a joke, right?
I believe the baptism is kosher (yes, the religious cross is intentional), but the ceremony must be performed on a pirate ship…in full regalia, in order to not offend His Noodly Greatness.
Ramen
Hello All!
I was just wanting to offer to you all a couple of books that I believe would be very helpful and insightful, because it seems that not many people taking part in this page have done any REAL research. I am truly not trying to be offensive in any way. I have a lot of compassion for people who have not really delved into the facts deep enough, and so are confused. These books are:
“Answers to Tough Questions: Skeptics ask about the Christian Faith” (By: Josh McDowell and Don Stewart)
(And/Or “Evidence That Demands a Verdict” (By Josh McDowell)
and “Who is This Jesus, Is He Risen?: Examining the Truth About Jesus” (By: D. James Kennedy, Ph.D. with Jerry Newcombe) — which can be gotten from: Coral Ridge Ministries
P.O. Box 40
Fort Lauderdale, Fl
33302
I truly hope, because I really care about each individual, that you all will really read these books…because I know it will be difficult to even pick one of them up due to lack of desire to find the real truth — and maybe even due to fear of finding the real truth (for some people). There have been prominent men who have delved into the research to the greatest extents in order to get all the facts — only to find out who Jesus really is, that he really lived, and that he really rose again — and those men who were determined to tear down the Christian faith ended up developing an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ instead.
What I am saying here, is that these facts definitely make it something to at least seriously look in to. I am not talking about a superficial glance that is guarded by many preconceived notions from the GetGo…I am talking about an actual intellectual LookSee.
In conclusion, may God’s blessing be with each and every one of you…including the misguided “Christians” whom I saw left comments on this page before..I am sure some of you really meant well, but it is not the true way of Christ.
The real important thing is to find out who Christ REALLY is, but if you want to..in the meantime.. check out answersingenesis.org.
Love to all of my brothers and sisters in Christ.
I certainly do not wish to offend you, Pennhigh, but you seem to misunderstand something. The Flying Spaghetti Monster (bless his noodly apendage), created everything around us. I do not think that your’ fictional messiah is of any real benefit to the people on this site and frankly your attempts to convert are bordering on the offensive.
Now I’m a fairly tolerant person, but to be brutally honest the sado-masochistic imagery of your god-child nailed to a plank, whilst mildly arousing, is not really enough to pull the followers of the one true god to your den of lies. If I believed in a “hell”, as you carpenty enthusiasts put it, I would condemn you to burn in it for eternity for your lies.
Ask yourself, Pennhigh - if that is indeed your real name and not merely another deceipt - what kind of god does not place pirates above all others? There work to combat environmental damage clearly denotes a level of understanding of his noodliness above all others. To think otherwise is both outrageous and absurb.
I call shennanigans on this one, Pennhigh and I think you should take your so called god and stick it in your sanctimonious bumhole.
Speaking as someone who is from Kansas and also as a person who has faith(although not sure in what)I find your letter clever, well written, and thought provoking.
I will point out, however, that just earlier this year in Pennsylvania a case was brought before Federal court in which several parents were outraged at a school who handed out pamphlets about so-called “intelligent design theory” and filed suit against the school and school board. The FEDERAL court ruled in favor of the parents saying that the “theory” of “intelligent design” was based soley on faith and not on scientific evidence and therefore could not be taught in a school by reason of the separation of church and state amendments laid down in the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
Matters of Faith are just that and have their place….in a house of faith(cathedral, sinigogue, church, temple). That place is NOT the science classroom. Science is an institution based on FACT. Faith is an institution based on THEOLOGY. Newton’s faith did not make an apple all on his head. Einstein’s faith did not help him come up with relativity. The space station was not built on faith. I know what you are thinking now “God made the apple fall!” or “Christ gave Einstein the theory of relativity.” To that I say that I feel sorry for you. You have so blindly fallen into your faith that there will be no doubt in your mind that you are right. You will pick my response here apart pointing out all of my logical flaws and hypocracy. To that I say… WARS have begun for less than that. FACT is one of the most bloodiest wars was fought over faith(The Crusades). FACT is some believe we are fighting a war like that one now(on terrorism).
My closing argument is this: The Theory of Evolution has behind it many proven facts. The Theory of Intelligent Design has behind it religious dogma and faith. Looking at that reasoning as the judge in Pennsylvania did my view becomes clear.
KEEP YOUR INTELLIGENT DESIGN AND YOUR FAITH OUT OF THE SCHOOLS AND IN THE CHURCH WHERE IT BELONGS.
LEAVE THE SCIENCE IN THE CLASSROOM AND THE LAB.
Or maybe we should just not teach anything at all and be dumber for it.
RAmen.
I must say, even though I don’t trully believe in your religion, I can point out it’s more “logical” (there’s no such word to express what I mean to say) than most religions, even more than Christianism. Why do I say this? Because it DOESN’T STATES THAT IT’S GOD IS THE ONLY UNIQUE ONE AND THAT OTHERS SUCK, it leaves place to chances. And I love chances. Thanks, I’m a maths addict. Anyhow, to any christian guy out there, I’ll love to say this on your faces, but as you can see, I’m pretty much limited: How can you asure the Christian or whatever religion’s God is the real one? How can you be called by Him taking into account YOU said you CANNOT prove it exists, and It is only fed up by your unfinishing faith?
PD= I’d laugh if a christian said God talked to Him and tomorrow the Flying Spagetti Monster appears in the TV saying It is the only God out there. Really, I’d make a book about that.
Ramen.
Hi all
i’m really happy to see how the tolerance full fill the mind of the Cristhians ;-).
That’s the problem with faith, it is not possible to build a discussion around faith, it as to be accepted as is. And the need of peoples having faith to save (or burn) the others that does not, could be the problem.
ADD FAITH AND ECONOMIC INTEREST AND YOU’LL GET A DANGEROUS MIX
In response to Brianna’s post: “I’m fairly certain that you don’t yourself believe we were created by a flying Spaghetti Monster (considering both spaghetti and the idea of monsters are both products of man’s creativity and imagination),”.
Considering what you said, the idea of gods are too products (or byproducts I might say) of the man’s creativity and imagination. Furthermore, I don’t see a reason in your thoughts not to believe that noodles and monsters pre-existed humanity, and as all gods, were found and worshiped at some point onwards in the human history. Manifestations of early noodly appendages date back to B.C. 5000, providing proof that the FSM is the first and only real god, pre-dating yours and most others’ gods.
Also, His noodly divinity keeps us FSM believers united in a single, monolithic, and true body of religion, in contrast with virtually all other religions which at least once in their history have experiences a schism and formed other branches. Christianity alone (just a random example) has over 700 branches, all having contradicting beliefs, even contradicting the role of Jesus Christ.
In conclusion, my point is, you create religions on what you want and suits you to believe, whereas we base our beliefs on what is true and what’s not. It was our choice to believe in His noodly appendage, and you’ll never see some of us believing in Flying Tagliatelle/Pappardelle/Fettuccine Monsters.
In a word - FABULOUS!! I bow down to you and your (and now mine as well) god - the Flying Spaghetti Monster. May the sauce be with you…
Yeah, everyone keep mocking. Enjoy yourself while you can. Laugh with your father Satan. You poor, poor people; you have no idea.
I heart you….
but it all makes sense now!
why else would every culture dig pasta and noodly-ness?
why else would sphagetti and meatballs be so damn tasty?
why aren’t I having sphagetti for dinner?!
I’m spreading the word! my friends, my co-workers, my boyfriend!
all will worship his graceful noodlyness!!
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is it blasphemy to say god bless the flying sphagetti monster?
Personally I think it is really weird how you people think that the universe was really created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster just because in the Gopspel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster it says that the Flying Spaghetti Monster created everything! Just because there is a book that says that he created everything does not mean that it is true!
See, God really created the universe. I have proof! It SAYS SO in the Bible. So it must be true. Get it?
I just wanted to be the first to comment today.
May the FSM bless all who believe.
Ramen
At last I find the one place where my affirmations of faith are truly held in esteem.
Thou art my god Flying Spaghetti Monster, and mayst His Noodly Appendage guide me.
RAmen
I’m an American who’s been living in Spain for 7 years and I’ve only just heard of your site/religion. Though parody is often taken only at face value as comic relief, the serious arguments behind your open letter are pretty close to irrefutable. What the school board is doing in Kansas is a travesty, and spells red-level danger. Actually, whether life was put into motion by a Christian, Jewish or Islamic God, Greek gods, the Spaghetti Monster or chance subatomic processes is irrelevant to the issue at hand. What Kansas board members and perhaps most Kansas residents and perhaps too damn many Americans fail to realize, is that THEY LIVE IN A WORLD, not only in Kansas or the US. Teaching children Intelligent Design is underpreparing them for that world, handicapping them. It’s like taking little Johnny aside before he runs out onto the baseball diamond and spooning his eyes out and beating one of his legs into disuse, justifying your actions with a claim of worldwide prejudice against the blind and crippled. The world is shrinking. As adults, children now growing up in Kansas will have to meet, work and reason with children now growing up in New York, and quite possibly London, Paris, or Cairo. Do we really want to skew their general knowledge, and worse, store their distorted perceptions of the world in the deepest parts of them, where belief resides? Here’s a cold fact. Europeans hate us. Yes, part of it comes from old grudges, nationalism, yearning for the days when their countries were number one or two, sheer jealousy of our wealth, scope and influence. But that hate is also based on what they see and hear. It is based on their much more modern and civilized worldview, much more humanistic morality. For example, how dare Bush even mention God and Iraq in the same sentence? And here’s what really scares them: HOW COULD THERE REALLY BE AMERICANS WHO SWALLOW THAT HOGWASH? Children growing up on Intelligent Design will not only swallow it, they’ll relish it, ask for more. And when it’s their turn, when they have their fingers on the world’s red buttons, they’ll spew it. Look out, world. America is preparing its ignorant minions, and they shall fall upon thee.
All hail his noodly appendage.
I am a proud pastafarian, and so are all my friends. I would never talk to someone who was so stupid to believe in all of the fake religions out there -cough-.
ALL HAIL FSM!~
i have spoke to the allmighty fsm and it said with a booming voice send me 14.95 and i will heal you,forgive you of all your wrong doings plus a free one of a kind bleesed tee shirt .
I am from Barcelona (Spain), sorry for my deficient english.
I have seen the light, and now I am a proud pastafarian. :D
Geona, while I agree with all your points, this bit made me laugh:
“Here’s a cold fact. Europeans hate us. Yes, part of it comes from old grudges, nationalism, yearning for the days when their countries were number one or two, sheer jealousy of our wealth, scope and influence.”
That attitude is yet another reason why Europeans dislike Americans. Oh and I have some bad news for you, its not just Europeans, its basically the entire planet.
All hail his thick and chunky sauce!
Ramen
Oh dear me, open up that can of worms!! I am a pandeist, can we also teach pandeism– that there was a God who created the Universe by becoming the Universe, leaving nothing of God? Can we teach Last Thursdayism, that the universe was created last Thursday, and everything that appears to the contrary (even our memories of last Wednesday) is God’s illusion to trick us?
//// Pacific PanDeist
I so love reading every one of the posts here. That people think religion should not be in school, that science should not be in religion… dang, one begat the other… but which came first, the religious chicken or the scientific egg? Who knows, but both sure taste good!!!
Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster, may his noodles be of rice so those of us with sensitivities to the wheat demons may partake of his goodness!!
RAmen!
Brilliant, man, brilliant =). In one day, you have done what 21 years of Christians could not do: convert me. All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
PS - To all you Christian nuts who left comments, you really aren’t helping your image at all. May you know the Grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s Noodly Appendage, that you may not be subject to the Lake of Fiery Garlic Breath.
RAmen
I am Australian, and, though I was disappointed that you had to write the letter, I was pleased to find your letter and learn of the interest it generated in the USA: it gives me hope that the US is not too far down the path which Geona fears.
Let us pray.
Oh holy Noodliphant, may thy spaghettishness squirm through the minds of the disbelievers! OH HOLY NOODLIPHANT, forgive them for they know not that only ketchup can purify their ignorant vains! They know not that only YOUR meatballs entwined by your shiny Appendage can carry the message and embodiment of TRUE ETERNITY! Please oh Noodliphant, let us forgive them! Semen.
You are the greatest man who ever lived! Finally I can see the truth!!!
And some idiotic christians should be enlightened!!!
SPREAD THE WORD, BROTHER BOBBY!!!
MAY HIS NOODLY APPENDEGES EMBRACE ME WITH HIS LOVE FOR ALL OF ETERNITY,
RAMEN
All hail the noodly appendage!!!
I know you get a lot of emails claiming that you are against religion or whatnot, but your arguments don’t support those claims. It seems you’re interested in keeping science in the science class. While I have no problem with the theory of Intelligent Design, I do have a problem with it being taught as science. It abandones the scientific method. As such, it can’t possibly constitute a science of any kind. It’s a theoretical proposal that bases itself in an absence of evidence. To be science, it must base itself in the presence of evidence. If someone so wishes to teach ID in a science class, then they should be willing to teach FSMism as well, and likewise to teach German in an English class, and to teach political theory in a math class. You have my full support! Besides, it’s more fun to pillage and plunder and get drunk than to sit in church listening to a man talk about not doing this or not doing that in a mono-tone voice.
Arg, I think this young lad has it in the Gospel Truth! Me mateys and I support this lad in his mission to enlighten the wee tykes to our peaceful ways. Long live Captain Mosey! HUZZAH! HUZZAH!
Interesting, Ryan, your argument against intelligent design being taught… It’s what philosophers refer to as a “straw man” fallacy. That is where you paint an incorrct picture of your opponent’s position and proceed to argue against this “fake” position. The problem is that you are not arguing against the actual position of your opponent at all. First of all, I would inform you that there is plenty of evidence for a young-earth creation. Geological studies of the grand canyon and niagara falls, biological studies of mitochindrial DNA, paleontology, etc… I could write an encyclopedia on all the specifics, so check out some resources like answersingenesis.org. They have articles on all sorts of topics, many of which include very detailed scientific evidence for young-earth creation. Second, I would draw down your ill-founded notion that (macro)evolution theory is based upon any vestige of evidence or experimentation at all. It is not shown by any form of the scientific method, but rather by pure speculation. It kind of SEEMS like science IF you walk into the laboratory assuming evolution to be true, but beginning with major assumptions is not a part of the scientific method. So, for macrevolution (the kind required to turn amoebae into people) to be given scientific evidence, someone somewhere has got to prove, using the scientific method, that some new feature arose by changes in DNA over time. You simply will not find this supposed evidence. No scientist has ever seen any new feature arise in any creature. They are always after the “missing link”… If you look at the proposed constructs of what evolved from what, you will see that absolutely NONE of these creatures are “linked” in the way you would expect if they had arisen by gradual change. Now, what they use in textbooks to support macroevolution is called microevolution. No reasonably informed person would reject microevolution.. you can see it in dog breeds and such. However, microevolution is merely a redistribution of already-present genetic information (i.e. dog breeds again if you study it, no new genetic info). It dows not show any NEW genetic info, a MASSIVE amount of which is needed to account for evolution. The only other supposed “evidence” for evolution is basically that many animals looks kind of similar and have similar bone structures (note that the differences ares still significant enough not to be accounted for by microevolution). So the “argument” for evolution based on “science” is “they look kind of similar, this system kind of makes sense if you think about it with a lot of assumptions and don’t examine the evidence.” All sorts of so-called evolutionary “proofs” can be shown not to support thair claims… many even dis-prove evolution (ref. irreducible complexity). Evolution, in a sense, requires more faith in man’s opinion (not science) than creation does in God. If evolution, then, is good enough to be taught in classrooms, so is intelligent design.
i can see that this is a joke, and very funny to show us how crazy one persons beleafes can seem to some one eles
but i think it as gotten way out of hand when you sale a book and other stuff
but nice to see that you can make money off of anything
just think of the pet rock, some one made a lot of money off of that too and it was just as dumn
Yarr, you spelled midget wrong!
Does anyone know the exact limit of lines allowable in a comment before it becomes too long to read? PennHigh and WB and even Geona all might have very interesting things to say but in fact when a comment is over 15 lines long it is skipped by 90% of readers coming along. Now, studies show that when a blog entry is divided up by blank lines, then the total readable number of lines increases to 25. Interesting.
All Hail His Noodly Appendageness!
Ramen!!
To Nathaniel… You do have a point about the Pet Rock, and how people can make money off really stupid things. More power to them, I say. I never bought a Pet Rock, but I’d buy some FSM merchandise just for fun and to do my part to get in the way of right-wing crackpots insinuating their version of reality into my children’s education. If Bobby makes money, good for him. He deserves it for being so silly and clever at the same time.
I wouldn’t want to be you when you stand before God.
If you are right, and evolution is the only answer, then we will all just be dirt-food when we die. But if you are wrong, and the intelligent design people are right and there is a God, then you’ll be in a tough spot.
By the way, did you ever read what the Kansas School Board had proposed? It doesn’t sound like it from your letter.
Great site and keep up the good work!
@WB - You say that intelligent design is supported by things such as mitochondrial DNA, but you fail (or decide not) to acknowlegde that mitochondria being present in cells today is a proof in favor of evoution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondria#Origin
Not that wikipedia is the best or most reliable source…but the problem, California Boy, is not whether or not we believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but that you are so closed minded that you think that God _had_ to create the Earth in the fallacious way delineated by Intelligent Design.
Rather than let rot the gray matter between your ears, use it, to think, to explore, to understand just _what_ the Evolutionists think, and why they think it, and pray to the god you worship to come to an understanding and peace of the knowledge S/He has helped us learn and the hints at his marvelous works.
Have you seen what reasonable, thinking people have done in Kansas? http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5989687,00.html
It doesn’t sound like it from your posts. This is what happened: Conservative Republicans who pushed anti-evolution standards back into Kansas schools last year have lost control of the state Board of Education once again.
What does this mean? That we’re not teaching pseudo-science in the classroom.
Be ye Touched.
RAmen.
What unbelievable replies from the Christian blasphemers! Their concepts of how science works could not be more flawed.
The ironies are nearly as delicious as the pasta we celebrate.
I love the post by Nathanial, complaining about the gall of our church for daring to sell items that promote our beliefs.
I suppose instead we should try to fear our followers into sending us money like the ‘real’ religions do on TV every sunday morning? Now there’s a true crime if there ever was one.
No one has ever killed in the name of the FSM, or claimed that the FSM is on our side before sending troops into battle against cultures with other beliefs.
Such a shame that the followers of the great pacifist Christ can’t say that.
May your noodles be warm and firm, and your balls saucy and meaty.
Ramen.
What has happened to the Schools? I thought schools were about Reading, (W)Righting and (A)Rithmatic.. and they were houses of “Learing” why are all the groups trying to push an agenda one way or another.. Why not actually TEACH something have more educated children that can read and write and let them make those types of choices for themselves.. NOT push anything on them one way or another in the house of LEARNING…..
WB wrote: “You simply will not find this supposed evidence.”
This is a sign of panic. Notice, also, the arrogant tone. I hope this individual is not a science teacher. Attention WB - science is all about finding evidence, NOT your ‘don’t bother looking cuz it’s not there’ bullshit. I’ve heard of other people affected in a negative way by reading long, baseless posts, like the one by WB, and it almost happened to me. Bless you FSM, for nudging my elbow with your noodly appendage, and aiding in my response.
RAmen.
You are a true genius, I will now become a pirate a fight global warming. Aaaarrr!
Finally, someone understands what I was talking about. “War” has been translated incorrectly for too long. The piece I wrote was called “The Art of the Spaghetti Fight,”.
Much more fun. Much less blood.
The beginning of my text, with proper translation in CAPS should thus read as follows:
“The art of THE SPAGHETTI FIGHT (not “war”)is of vital importance to the PLATE (not “State”). Silly Translators.
His Divine Sauciness has allowed me to return to you that I might correct this error via your “internet” (we refer to it as the INTER-PLATE) in the tomatoey hereafter.
I must now return to the glorious fields of pesto and parmesan — Black Beard and I have a Euchre game at 8:00.
P.S. look into “The Dread Pirate Roberts” — big time Pastafarian prophet that one. Great at Charades.
Noodle on.
S.T.
Brad: the information presented on wiki concerning origins and mitochondria is generally accepted by evolutionists… However, if you actually ask scientific questions (i.e. how did they find out this information?), as opposed to accepting it merely because some scientists say it is so, you will see that it is pure speculation. Basically, the theory (and it is just a theory) that mitochondira were originally earlier life forms is very similar to several other supposed evolutionary links in that it kind of seems to make sense at first due to certain similarites IF you assume that evolution is true. A whole myriad of biological theories have come about this way (ref. “Gap/mutation theory”, which is basically a response to the fact that evolution isn’t supported by the fossil record). However, if you don’t assume evolution, you will see that the evolution can’t really explain mitochondrial origins. A great many staunch evolutionists even the theory about mitchondira given on wiki… I wouldn’t use wiki alone as my source of such info, btw…
“humanity”: straw men and ad hominems will not get you anywhere in a reasonable discussion. I never said one should not look for evidence… I welcome anyone to search the whole universe for evidence on origins, I merely challenge them to do so with an open mind, rather than with naturalistic assumptions.
Fewer pirates? I think that’s the fallacy of the global warming argument. Please consider a recount. We have lots of pirates - only now they wear suits and plunder through the stock market, drug and weapons trade, war contracts, etc.
I was an atheist. Everyone got annoyed when I spent hours trying to convince them that there could be no ‘god’, but now I’ve seen the light of his noodlyness! Now I can spend the days trying to convert people!
My experience:
First i thought this is just some stupid joke. I thought there’s no way some spaghetti with meat balls could have created everything *sigh*, its just doesn’t add up! What a childish idea.
But just for the fun of it I looked at the evidence, read discussions and expert opinions. My world changed. I became a believer.
I challenge everyone laughing or mocking at FSM to study its secrets before passing judgement. Or just go to some local pastafarian meeting to discuss about your beliefs, exceptations and pasta sauces.
As a Flying Spaghetti Monsterist,
Touched by His Noodlely Appendage,
I woke up this morning
Looked around for my shoes
That’s when I knew I’d had
A string-cheese incident
Only the strange remain when the FSM returns!
WB, my argument wasn’t a straw man argument. Remembe, science deals only with the natural. My argument is based on Intelligent design vs. evolution being the main point of education. Personally, I don’t care if evolution is taught, but the theory of evolution was brought about in a scientific manner, and so long as it is taught as a theory, not as a fact, then it’s still got scientific merit. Intelligent Design bases its argument on there being a God, something that cannot be prove. Intelligent Design is a theory, but not a scientific theory. It’s a religious theory. Now, if you want to go with the young-earth as science, that’s fine by me, because that’s based on science. You’re suggestion that I committed a straw man fallacy is erronious because I didn’t claim that evolution is science fact, or that it has been proven. Evolution is a theory, a scientific theory, that explains a lot. However, it does not explain everything. It does leave holes. That doesn’t mean evolution is wrong, just that we don’t know everything we’d like to know. However, the science community has done studies, they’ve found fossiles, they’ve researched and researched. Evolution is a scientific theory. So is the young-earth theory. That’s science. But when you bring an intelligent designer into the process, that abandones science. I said I have no problem with ID being taught in a theology class, but I do have a problem with it being taught in a science class. Now, if science proves evolution false, then evolution will no longer be a scientific theory. If science proves it true, then evolution will become scientific fact. But I did not propose teaching evolution as scientific fact, either. Did I? Nope. In fact, this is exactly what I said: “While I have no problem with the theory of Intelligent Design, I do have a problem with it being taught as science. It abandones the scientific method. As such, it can’t possibly constitute a science of any kind. It’s a theoretical proposal that bases itself in an absence of evidence. To be science, it must base itself in the presence of evidence.” You then argued about a young-earth as a counter to my point. But young-earth theory doesn’t necessarily imply an intelligent designer. Unless you’re committing a logical fallacy, of course, but you wouldn’t do that, because you said yourself that fallacies aren’t good. And your second point, that evolution isn’t founded by any scientific method, is crazy. A problem was posed. A solution pro-posed. A hypothesis generated. And studies/tests done (these include fossiles, how you can say that fossiles aren’t evidence I’ll never understand). It doesn’t necessarily mean they have to be correct, but as long as they’re done, and the same results repeated from other scientists, then the theory is valid. So far, that seems to be the case. Now, we’re finding evidence that the earth may be younger than suspected. Fine. But that doesn’t imply an intelligent designer, nor does a “missing link” in evolution theory prove an intelligent designer. That’s the difference between intelligent design and evolution. We don’t have to prove that evolution is a fact, only that it follows the scientific method, and so far it has. We don’t have to prove ID false, or fact, only that it does or doesn’t follow the scientific method. And since you can’t test God, you can’t scientifically study ID. That makes it completely impossible. Remember, science is not exact or perfect, so we’re not looking for exact or perfect here, we’re only looking to see if it meets the requirements. Evolution theory has thus far, ID hasn’t.
Ramen.
I think pillaging is now in order… along with beer. Lots and lots of beer… and pillaging and plunder.
Great.
from now on I will belief in the FSM. Everything makes sense. This MUST be the truth.
RAmen.
Ingmar, Germany
I want to tell you, that I have information and evidence, that the FSM has left a big stone in Croatia on which are written all rules humans have to obey. I know it absolutely sure because I dreamed about it, or let us say, i hat a vision. It was so clear that I felt like my head was a videorecorder who is recording any thing. Now the problem is, that I don´t know exactly where the place I have seen is, but I am sure that it must be in Croatia because there where some drunken Policeman walking around. I think we should now find some people for searching this stone, because it has all answers we are looking for. And, as far as i know, if you carry it three times around a field the ones who carry it, die. Please write me an E Mail for telling me, what is to do. I am sure, the FSM is leading us in a very special direction. Ramen and Smalleluja
WB, just a question here… are you just that determined to be dense? Are you so scared that your religeon may be wrong that you cannot accept scientific FACT? I have spoken with many scientists (read PhD, and a couple of double PhD’s) and had them explain evidence THEY THEMSELVES have helped to provide the scientific community. The fact that mitochondria have their own dna, that they are symbiotic with our own cells is only ONE piece of evidence that they were once their own creatures.
If evolution does not exist, as you seem to want to insist, then explain what happened in the 1500’s when the bubonic plague was sweeping through europe. We have found a SINGLE GENERATION MUTATION.. that is, in a period of a few months, a change in genetics to provide protection against this disease. We have found that those exposed to the AIDS virus who have never gotten it (but should have) had ancestors on both maternal and paternal sides who had this genetic mutation. Those who got sick with AIDS but have gone into a remission (been found mostly or completely clear of the virus) had ancestors on EITHER the maternal or paternal side with this mutation.
How can you or anyone say that evolution does not happen? This evidence only serves to further prove out evolution. How much farther is it to leap from a disease prevention to other mutations (adaptations to environment) to help our survival? The ONLY “missing link” we have is in a step from Homo Erectus to Homo Sapiens… until then, the genetic mutations are clear, and easy to follow.
Please actually learn those facts you so tout, and get in touch with the noodly reality.
All Hail His Kind and Loving Noodliness, and the Sauce within which He dwells!
RAmen!!
Oh… also… (Taken from a rant of 2 The Ranting Gryphon…) If you say that religeon is scientific enough to study ion science class, then you have to admit that science is religeous enough to teach in church!!
One statement is as logical as the other.
Also… pasta is godly.
YarrrrRAmen!!
Betty - I hear you, and agree to a degree, however these dudes aren’t realy what His Noodlyness would call a bona fide pirate - they are a pale imitation. Lets face it these dudes are more like comparing a vulture to a bald eagle. Anyway I believe as much as we cannot know His mind that the FSM approves of the classical pirate concept as a matter of style rather than content. I mean the Catatonics have the market cornered on cross dressing and child molesting etc. Also speaking as a marketer it is essential to brand your product in an easily identifiable packaging to attract the target market. I believe that FSM in his infinate wisdom has realised the fallability of the creatures that he hath wrought and has given us the pirate as a means to focus our faith. And finaly - if we don’t He gets angry - possibly the most compelling argument.
ups…sorry(( not correct topic i’m too drunk… I’m st01en zasrancheg…
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sorry arain
P.S. st01en - lox
Since early childhood, I have always believed in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I just couldn’t put a name to it. Imagine my relief when I realised that: not only am I not alone in my beliefs, but there’s already a group of like-minded believers, spreading the Spaghetti Monster’s good word.
My only concern is that we need to take it up a notch, to establish religious unity, to weaken opposition to the COFSM and a little economic support wouldn’t hurt either.
Let’s fire up the Spaghetti Inquisition.
Yours in inquistive mood,
Cony Dragon member of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster - Irish Chapter.
The best evidence that I have observed to date that Intelligent Design is actually religion disguised as science is the fact that the only Christian literalists with an axe to grind have made any postings in support of the “science” of Intelligent Design. Honestly, my Christian God was clever enough to create a universe in which physics, chemistry, geology, and yes, biology could function in a logical and systematic way. It makes no sense, then, that this same God would go about “planting” artifacts throughout our earth in order to trick and mislead humanity. What a sick God that would be.
Dear Bobby,
Your letter touched me and I can see that you are a Believer. I believe your should vote for me. I will let you teach whatever you want.
I’m not against teaching evolution in the classroom, but I am against teaching lies. Most of what is taught has been proven false years ago. Look into it! There is no evidence to support anything but microevolution.
People have been duped into thinking evolution is science. Science is the observation. Evolution is an interpretation of the observation. So is intelligent design.
Check out Kent Hovind’s videos on creation and evolution. www.drdino.com
what in the f*** are u guys talking about this has got to be the dumbest peice of s*** that i have ever herd!! this isnt science its a religon, and a religon of nonsense. A spegetti monster HAHAHAHHA WTF???? r u serious!!?!? this is almost as dumb as that scientology bull****….you guys need jesus
Until yesterday, I labeled myself a staunch atheist and true believer in evolution.
However, while in a fit of anger at the christian professor of the “Intro to Philosophy” class that I am being forced to take, I began researching ways to refute my professor’s insistence that evolution is “in for a hard time” since so many scientists (his own son included!) are finding intelligent design difficult to dispute. In the course of my online search, I found this site.
I realize now that this was simply His Noodlyness appearing to me and waking me up to His reality. According to my “professor’s” text book (that, incidentally, he wrote himself) I had a “second-order mystical experience” yesterday when I stumbled upon the Gospel of the FSM. It was as though I had been in a deep sleep for my whole life and suddenly I am awakened. I realize now that there is only One True Noodly Master and that He is good. I am ready to spread the word of His Loving Appendage to everyone that I encounter.
I believe I will begin with my philosophy “professor” first.
I have unfortunatley discovered some of affiliate Pirates, of an off-shute of Davie Jones global, not wearing there eye-patches. I feel these heretics should be forced to walk the plank. I have the promise of 50 ships to go round up these swarthy sea erchins, just send word via the crow and we’ll shove off fore long.
Yo Ho Ho,
PB
CEO Pirates Int.
CC:
Jolly Roger/V.P. 3 Sheets to the Wind, Inc.
This is the best laugh I’ve had in ages! Thanks a lot.
Betty, the pirates you are talking about are a different type of pirate. As they don’t wear the official Pirate uniform, they don’t count as real pirates.
I’m sure this is covered somewhere else.
Why can’t we (you Christians) just get along (cliche? Yes, very! Hail, World Peace!)? Wasn’t the point of being a Christian to be accepting of others? Until Christians can get it together, I’m hoping I will be allowed to bask in His wonderful tomato-y presence and be touched by his noodly appendage!!
RAmen!
I actually did dream of a similar monster in 2000 & later posted it on 8/05 on a msgboard/dreamthread. It was jailed in another dimension long ago, but the end of its tail caught in the door and was blown to bits that peppered the globe. Each bit was then used to influence nearby dreaming minds to ferry it to a stockpile under the guise of taking a vacation. The monster’s power increased the more bits were gathered. Free, it resembled a flying upsidedown turtleshell, tentacles spilling over the side that snatched fleeing humans, severing them in mid-air. So you have the FSM and I have The Vacation Monster.
I used to beleve in sit-in-a-cornerism wherein I would sit in a corner in the shade and think of things, but recently I can only think of the sauceyness of the great spaghetti monster, and the way he guides my life without me even knowing with his noodley appendage. You have another belever. right now im a pirate in mind but not in body. I hope that the FSM grants me piracy and general noodleyness.
Ramen.
I have heard from very reliable sources about NASA’s new theory. They claim that the planet Mars looks a lot like a giant meat ball and therefore it must be a monument for the great FSM possibly built by intergalactic federation. Once the theory is proved there will be no more doubt that Pastafarianism is the oldest religion on Earth and has believers all over Universe. It would also prove that FSM is way more cool than Allah, Budha, Jesus and all the other holly dudes put together.
RAmen!
I recently read a post which said that we coulnd’t seriously believe that we were created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster because the ideas of monsters and spaghetti are man made, and so they started existing after the creation of mankind.
But this leaves out one important point: There are many people who believe that everything we feel are only memories of our soul, which it gathered in former lives. This is called “Anamnesis” (or something), so why shoulnd’t it be possible, that in the process of our creation by the FSM the first ever real memory in our souls was “spaghetti”? And with the speed, in which the Gospel spreads around the world, it seems that there are tons of people who recall this noodly memories.
That makes it logical to assume that it’s all about spaghetti since the beginning.
Arrrrrr, It is with poisoned intellect finding me self in the quandary of dismay over thar simpley written idea of a greater power or Father that has too chosen me to be in this existence, but also, has chosen a turbulent path for me that I may not stray from for fear of His wrath upon me and my vessel. I can also call this literary Slavery.
May the Flying Spaghetti Monster grant you fair winds, following seas, and a bountiful treasure both here and in the afterlife.
Someone wrote in a local newpaper under the opinions that if Christians want schools to teach Intelligent Design, it would be only fair for Scientists to teach Evolution in Church. I think that is a realistic proposition–but we both know the fundamentalists won’t go for it.
I cannot understand why people are so terribly threatened by a THEORY that has no relevance to actual FAITH. Regardless whether “god” created the world or some accident occured, one’s faith need not be reduced. If it is, I would seriously question the strength of that person’s said convictions. Why do the two have to be mutually exclusive?
I think the FSM is the answer to this rift! May HE WHO HAS NOODLY APPENDAGES heal the chasm between those who “believe” and those who “deduce”.
Very creative satire.
On behalf of Pirates everywhere, thanks for raising awareness of our problem. Arrrggg
I know there has been some tension between us ninjas and pirates in the past, but I would just like to make a peace offering on behalf of my ninja brethren and say ‘thank you’ for this wildly creative and valid belief system that you have founded. It is an honor to call myself a pastafarian ninja!
zach
Sep 21st, 2006 at 12:05 pm
what in the f*** are u guys talking about this has got to be the dumbest peice of s*** that i have ever herd!! this isnt science its a religon, and a religon of nonsense. A spegetti monster HAHAHAHHA WTF???? r u serious!!?!? this is almost as dumb as that scientology bull****….you guys need jesus
I think that this guy needs to meet an able english professor.
Ukulele Ninja- I hope this is the beginning of a strong alliance, and may we train Ninja Pirates in the future!
Bansayarr!
I strongly hope we become a real established religion, and with some more stuff (Sargoth-Kuul, the avatar of FSM someone spoke of! PLUSHIES!)
If I ever get famous, I will spend my money on the homeless and a well-deserved temple to us all here in Sweden. RAmen!
Womderfully fantastic,I went onto google looking For personal belive and somethink to belive in other then the fact that i am so attractive (not a view shared by all) and stumble across this brilliant spaghetti God of yours. I love the idea and reasoning you have, also i may help to stop global warming by enlisting people as pirates as i agree with your stats (you can proove anything with a graph). I NEED TO KNOW WHERE CAN I WORSHIP THIS PASTA LORD. GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE ENJOY :-)
(Quoting Kate)
Science is the observation. Evolution is an interpretation of the observation. So is intelligent design.
To Kate:
Intelligent design is a theory expounded on the basis that the creation of certain species follows an intelligent designation instead of an undirected process such as natural selection.
Hmm.
Basically its saying that something “intelligent” formed it, because the design itself is intelligent.
Hmm.
Problem with that is the very foundation of this theory i.e. an intelligent being existing somewhere out there is scientifically impossible to prove. In simple language, this so-called scientific theory is just saying “Hey, this is really really cool. Someone really cool must have done this.”
Please.
Thats not science. Thats a guess. Like when I look at the sky and guess that clouds must be made out of cotton candy because its all soft and poofy.
To Zach:
You are a big potty mouth. Good Christians dont swear, even type-swearing shielded by ***-es. And youre making a bad name for Christians, because you sound like a dumb fuck.
At least get your freakin’ spelling right.
The fact that youre angry about the wrong issues (i.e. in our fanatical worship for His Noodleyness) shows that you, my friend, have been left behind in the evolution process.
Do you even have thumbs?
Repent O ignorant one, or we will send our mighty pirate ships TO DESTROY YOU!
ALL HAIL HIS LORDSHIP, THE MIGHTY ONE, KING OF FILLING CARBOHYDRATES.
Ramen.
Truly the prophet has spoken through you!
Joy unto man that this BLESSED revelation has been made known!
HOLY OF HOLIES, let man rejoice.
PASTA reigns and is known and is loved by man.
Let us strike our special parts with wet noodles.
Let us service the mighty one.
Lay down with Lasagna!
Cry out for Linguini to come within like a ram.
Holy HOLY HOLY…
Where do I sent my money?
I was Christened a Catholic but found it hard to repent in my early teenage years so converted to Islam. This I found a little harsh so tried a spot of Judaism for 3 years during my mid twenties, not particularly keen on the head wear I took up the Hare Krishna thingy for a couple of months before regressing into a Mormon. Alas the lack of booze forced me to become a Hindu which I practiced until I heard the calling of Satan…. But all that blood and torture was not for me so I abandoned it all and became Atheist. That was until 1 hour ago - I’ve found it after 29 years on this planet all hail his Noodleyness…
Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that all these religions believe they’re “the one”? Open your eyes and look around, stand on you own 2 feet (an other similar clichés), learn to think for yourself FSM is the way forward….
Aye Aye
Paulo
This is the best site ever…I’m forwarding to all my friends. By the way…talk like a pirate day was really cold in Arkansas.
RAmen, people. RAmen.
Absolutely delightful!! Whether it is proved true or not, it bears thought.
Its come to my attention that a great number of individuals consider the existence of a greater being than themselves. Im not here to argue that, but rather the existence of the deity designated as the “Christian God”. After carefully reviewing the “facts” (Not just the bible, but other such tomes) its completely beond me how any person could possibly, assuming they have some sort of scientific know-how (highschool education), accept this massacre of physics and old english as the proprietor of the universe. The following are my reasons;
1. The bible defines God as an omnicient and omnipresent entity. This is impossible, as if he where so defined, he would know all that would ever happen. He would also be able to do or change anything. If this where true, God would know eve