Comments on: Book Discussion http://www.venganza.org Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:34:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tony http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-934376 Tony Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:12:40 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-934376 Arrgh! :) I've read the FSM gospel with much interest, thank you, Bobby! It is VERY convincing, but I think the "Pirates vs Temperature" chart is not quite there... However, the comparison of the "land discovered" is THE killer argument. I can attest to it myself: recently I bought a GPS for my car, if I'd blindly believe what it suggests me - I'd most certainly got lost... That GPS box occurred to be the worst expenditure of my money recently! (We have lots of Noodely-white snow this winter, our municipal services are not to His standards. When this silly GPS box sees a 30~40km/h average speed at a main street/avenue - it "scientifically thinks" it is a traffic jam there and suggests to use a by-street. It's incapable to understand that those seemingly traffic-free by-roads are completely undrivable because of huge snow-piles, and that people on a main avenue crawling at those 30~40km/h all show finest examples of Ari Vatanen-like masterpiece of handling a car on an ice-under-snow SLIPPERY surface! I need all my might to hold on to His Noodely Appendage which helps me to keep control of my car.) RAmen! Arrgh!
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I’ve read the FSM gospel with much interest, thank you, Bobby!

It is VERY convincing, but I think the “Pirates vs Temperature” chart is not quite there… However, the comparison of the “land discovered” is THE killer argument.
I can attest to it myself: recently I bought a GPS for my car, if I’d blindly believe what it suggests me – I’d most certainly got lost… That GPS box occurred to be the worst expenditure of my money recently!

(We have lots of Noodely-white snow this winter, our municipal services are not to His standards. When this silly GPS box sees a 30~40km/h average speed at a main street/avenue – it “scientifically thinks” it is a traffic jam there and suggests to use a by-street. It’s incapable to understand that those seemingly traffic-free by-roads are completely undrivable because of huge snow-piles, and that people on a main avenue crawling at those 30~40km/h all show finest examples of Ari Vatanen-like masterpiece of handling a car on an ice-under-snow SLIPPERY surface! I need all my might to hold on to His Noodely Appendage which helps me to keep control of my car.)

RAmen!

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]]> By: BrownpaperbaG http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-927943 BrownpaperbaG Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:45:24 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-927943 Flying Spaghetti Monster! It actually makes sense now. I knew that there was something wrong with the deities that people believed in because no matter how many times they pray and beg, there will always be room for suffering, hatred, poverty, death and most important of all HUNGER! And then it hit me, FSM is pasta! He may not be able to solve all of our problems, but atleast he can eliminate one! HUNGER! He's the only deity who shows potential in eliminating hunger as long as we believe in him. I was born an atheist but was baptized and raised as a catholic (which I never approved). Now I see the truth. Can I be baptized as a believer of the Church of the FSM? I would really like to join. I live in the Philippines and I would do my best to open the eyes of my fellow Filipinos. There are a lot of atheist here in our country, sadly they're afraid comin of out. Afraid of being outcasted and ridiculed. Thanks for letting me share my thoughts. RAmen. Flying Spaghetti Monster!

It actually makes sense now. I knew that there was something wrong with the deities that people believed in because no matter how many times they pray and beg, there will always be room for suffering, hatred, poverty, death and most important of all HUNGER! And then it hit me, FSM is pasta! He may not be able to solve all of our problems, but atleast he can eliminate one! HUNGER!
He’s the only deity who shows potential in eliminating hunger as long as we believe in him.

I was born an atheist but was baptized and raised as a catholic (which I never approved). Now I see the truth. Can I be baptized as a believer of the Church of the FSM? I would really like to join. I live in the Philippines and I would do my best to open the eyes of my fellow Filipinos. There are a lot of atheist here in our country, sadly they’re afraid comin of out. Afraid of being outcasted and ridiculed. Thanks for letting me share my thoughts. RAmen.

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]]> By: BrownpaperbaG http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-927715 BrownpaperbaG Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:20:34 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-927715 I would just like to say that "Pastafarianism" is gaining incredible notoriety here in our country (Philippines). Ever since the Spaniards took over and trashed our old beliefs to teach their way of Religion, I knew for a fact that something was wrong. I felt that something was missing in their deity because we can still feel poverty, sickeness, death & most of all HUNGER!!. But my beliefs were changed when I recognized the Flying spaghetti Monter's awesome power! He's the answer to our biggest problem. HUNGER!! He's a spaghetti for crying out loud. I believe that the Italians were the first ones to discover the power of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and they're using the sacred art of cooking to deliver his noodly message. That's why Italians are so damn good in making pasta. I will try to make a further research on this theory. Pls don't hesitate in sharing your thoughts. Thanks! RAmen I would just like to say that “Pastafarianism” is gaining incredible notoriety here in our country (Philippines). Ever since the Spaniards took over and trashed our old beliefs to teach their way of Religion, I knew for a fact that something was wrong.

I felt that something was missing in their deity because we can still feel poverty, sickeness, death & most of all HUNGER!!. But my beliefs were changed when I recognized the Flying spaghetti Monter’s awesome power! He’s the answer to our biggest problem. HUNGER!! He’s a spaghetti for crying out loud. I believe that the Italians were the first ones to discover the power of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and they’re using the sacred art of cooking to deliver his noodly message. That’s why Italians are so damn good in making pasta.

I will try to make a further research on this theory. Pls don’t hesitate in sharing your thoughts. Thanks! RAmen

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]]> By: that1guy http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-924035 that1guy Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:36:48 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-924035 When I first bought the Gospel, I read it merely out of curiosity, but when I finished reading it, my life was changed forever. I now proudly state I'm a Pastafarian and have remained so for almost 3 years now. Now I lend my book to those who are curious like I was and as such has led to many converts to FSM. The Gospel is a great enlightening book that is worth a look and very hilarious, on a final note just want to say thanks Bobby Henderson for the Enlightenment and thank the FSM for the clarity and peace of mind I have gotten from Him When I first bought the Gospel, I read it merely out of curiosity, but when I finished reading it, my life was changed forever. I now proudly state I’m a Pastafarian and have remained so for almost 3 years now. Now I lend my book to those who are curious like I was and as such has led to many converts to FSM. The Gospel is a great enlightening book that is worth a look and very hilarious, on a final note just want to say thanks Bobby Henderson for the Enlightenment and thank the FSM for the clarity and peace of mind I have gotten from Him

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]]> By: Jeremykeys http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-915131 Jeremykeys Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:41:17 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-915131 That's something that almost escaped me. This silly phrase, "Finding the lord". Since so many bible-thumpers are always using it, it makes you wonder if there actually is one. I doubt it since they keep asking if anyone has seen him. That’s something that almost escaped me. This silly phrase, “Finding the lord”. Since so many bible-thumpers are always using it, it makes you wonder if there actually is one. I doubt it since they keep asking if anyone has seen him.

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]]> By: I'm not giving you my name! http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-913401 I'm not giving you my name! Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:26:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-913401 I have been touched. I thought it was his noodly apendage; the second time it was FSM! I am open to the truth. But I have one question for you. Is the chinese depiction of Him the Flying Lo-Mein Monster, the Flying Wanton Monster, or is it still Spaghetti? And can we eat spaghetti? Because anti smoking christians say "Eat Jesus" and "Inhale Jesus. get high on life" can we eat FSP? I have been touched. I thought it was his noodly apendage; the second time it was FSM! I am open to the truth. But I have one question for you. Is the chinese depiction of Him the Flying Lo-Mein Monster, the Flying Wanton Monster, or is it still Spaghetti? And can we eat spaghetti? Because anti smoking christians say “Eat Jesus” and “Inhale Jesus. get high on life” can we eat FSP?

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]]> By: Ubi Dubium http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-911680 Ubi Dubium Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:46:43 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-911680 @Bob - 982 & 983 You are so intent on people "finding jesus". How is it that he keeps getting lost? I recommend looking behind the sofa, that's always a good starting place. Honestly, if you can't keep track of your own messiah, why would you expect us to find him for you? Have some pasta and get over yourself. RAmen. @Bob – 982 & 983

You are so intent on people “finding jesus”. How is it that he keeps getting lost? I recommend looking behind the sofa, that’s always a good starting place. Honestly, if you can’t keep track of your own messiah, why would you expect us to find him for you?

Have some pasta and get over yourself. RAmen.

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]]> By: tekHedd http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-911394 tekHedd Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:52:21 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-911394 I bought the book and it is now making the rounds of friends of friends. One confirmed conversion already...and I can honestly say this was done without evangelism. He asked to borrow the book after hearing about it! I did mention the 30 day offer, which does seem to have helped a lot. Combined with the simple words "free of dogma" it basically sells itself! Now if only I could get a nicer copy of the book. I bought the book and it is now making the rounds of friends of friends. One confirmed conversion already…and I can honestly say this was done without evangelism. He asked to borrow the book after hearing about it!

I did mention the 30 day offer, which does seem to have helped a lot. Combined with the simple words “free of dogma” it basically sells itself! Now if only I could get a nicer copy of the book.

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]]> By: Dielan http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910853 Dielan Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:23:55 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910853 My friend got the Gospel of the FSM for xmas and I read it. Changed my life. I've converted several former open minded Christians already! RAmen. My friend got the Gospel of the FSM for xmas and I read it. Changed my life. I’ve converted several former open minded Christians already!

RAmen.

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]]> By: Keith http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910729 Keith Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:55:27 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910729 * 983: "beacuse no matter what you believe now, every knee will and every tounge will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of all one." Every knee eh? Well, if my knee starts to talk I'll assume I have a Jinmenso. I'll either call in a famous surgeon like Black Jack or failing that a Japanese exorcist. * 983: “beacuse no matter what you believe now, every knee will and every tounge will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of all one.”

Every knee eh? Well, if my knee starts to talk I’ll assume I have a Jinmenso. I’ll either call in a famous surgeon like Black Jack or failing that a Japanese exorcist.

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]]> By: plumberbob http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910679 plumberbob Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:22:09 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910679 @ 983 - bob - , Let me clarify in the most direct way possible, some of your incorrect perceptions about many of us at this site. My assertions are about many, but not necessarily all of us, and I do wish to be dramatic. We do not believe that any deity exists. We have seen nothing that could prove or affirm the existence of any deity. We live full lives with love of our friends and relatives. We have faith in science, education, art, society, and the inherent goodness of people. We have hope that the light of education will spread to the slaves of the clergy who fear reality. If you have any proof of the existence of any of the deities that you have postulated, please make it known to us. You’ve come to our website, we've not gone to yours to spout our fears and terrors. In the mean time, since you’ve proposed your own mythology, it is up to you to prove to us the existence of your deity. Mis-quoting from a Hebrew/ Koine book that you probably can’t read is not accepted as proof. You must know the language, who wrote it, when it was written, and the politics and economics of the authors and editors before we can have a clear rational discussion about it. Goats on fire! Happy Monkey, 2010! RAmen @ 983 – bob – ,

Let me clarify in the most direct way possible, some of your incorrect perceptions about many of us at this site. My assertions are about many, but not necessarily all of us, and I do wish to be dramatic.

We do not believe that any deity exists.

We have seen nothing that could prove or affirm the existence of any deity.

We live full lives with love of our friends and relatives.

We have faith in science, education, art, society, and the inherent goodness of people.

We have hope that the light of education will spread to the slaves of the clergy who fear reality.

If you have any proof of the existence of any of the deities that you have postulated, please make it known to us. You’ve come to our website, we’ve not gone to yours to spout our fears and terrors.
In the mean time, since you’ve proposed your own mythology, it is up to you to prove to us the existence of your deity. Mis-quoting from a Hebrew/ Koine book that you probably can’t read is not accepted as proof. You must know the language, who wrote it, when it was written, and the politics and economics of the authors and editors before we can have a clear rational discussion about it.

Goats on fire! Happy Monkey, 2010!

RAmen

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]]> By: plumberbob http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910636 plumberbob Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:08:33 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910636 @ 983 - bob -, Perhaps if you were smart enough to read and follow the directions that were clearly given to you when you entered our site, you would have had your questions answered. After reading the Open Letter and the “About” tab material, you could have learned: 1) Our mission is the exclusion of religious mythology from the science curricula of public schools. 2) Our theology is a satire that neither depends on, nor is derivative of any other religion. 3) We insist that any school board that includes any religious mythology in their science curricula, must also include ours. As believers feel free to make claims about the way the universe works, then they should be challenged on it.  That’s what happens when you make truth claims.  That your claims are hard to back up is unfortunate. You’re free to believe that the moon is made out of green cheese, but being free to believe that, doesn’t require that other people coddle that delusion. “That's something the apologists for faith need to learn, too: religion should be strong enough to stand against academic rudeness and mockery without this pathetic bleating for shelter from skepticism. It's easy to be tolerant and civil when you've compelled everyone to be agreeable with you; the challenge is to do the same when you're being denounced.” P Z Myers The attached talk by Dr Andy Thomson tells us how our needs as helpless infants uses the same parts of the brain as our thoughts about the mythology of religion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg The fears and terrors of the unknown are powerful drivers in our need for superstition. CHRISTIANITY: the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie will give you eternal life if you drink his blood and eat his flesh and telepathically tell him he's your master, all because some rib women was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. MAKES PERFECT SENSE! Goats on fire! Happy Monkey, 2010! RAmen @ 983 – bob -,

Perhaps if you were smart enough to read and follow the directions that were clearly given to you when you entered our site, you would have had your questions answered. After reading the Open Letter and the “About” tab material, you could have learned:

1) Our mission is the exclusion of religious mythology from the science curricula of public schools.

2) Our theology is a satire that neither depends on, nor is derivative of any other religion.

3) We insist that any school board that includes any religious mythology in their science curricula, must also include ours.

As believers feel free to make claims about the way the universe works, then they should be challenged on it.  That’s what happens when you make truth claims.  That your claims are hard to back up is unfortunate. You’re free to believe that the moon is made out of green cheese, but being free to believe that, doesn’t require that other people coddle that delusion.

“That’s something the apologists for faith need to learn, too: religion should be strong enough to stand against academic rudeness and mockery without this pathetic bleating for shelter from skepticism. It’s easy to be tolerant and civil when you’ve compelled everyone to be agreeable with you; the challenge is to do the same when you’re being denounced.”
P Z Myers

The attached talk by Dr Andy Thomson tells us how our needs as helpless infants uses the same parts of the brain as our thoughts about the mythology of religion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg

The fears and terrors of the unknown are powerful drivers in our need for superstition.

CHRISTIANITY: the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie will give you eternal life if you drink his blood and eat his flesh and telepathically tell him he’s your master, all because some rib women was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
MAKES PERFECT SENSE!

Goats on fire! Happy Monkey, 2010!

RAmen

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]]> By: theFewtheProudtheMarinara http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910559 theFewtheProudtheMarinara Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:33:35 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910559 Bob: Do you really believe we haven't heard of Jesus? For most of us, it took years to rid ourselves of years of that brainwashing. Sadly, it looks like you'll never make it. But keep on memorizing drivel if it makes you feel better. “For God so Loved the World.." that he flooded it, killing almost everyone - had 2 bears maul 42 kids to death for joking about someone's baldness - condemned generations to hell for their ancestor's eating of an apple - made Lot's life miserable and killed his family just to win a bet with the devil - shall I go on? Bob: Do you really believe we haven’t heard of Jesus? For most of us, it took years to rid ourselves of years of that brainwashing. Sadly, it looks like you’ll never make it. But keep on memorizing drivel if it makes you feel better. “For God so Loved the World..” that he flooded it, killing almost everyone – had 2 bears maul 42 kids to death for joking about someone’s baldness – condemned generations to hell for their ancestor’s eating of an apple – made Lot’s life miserable and killed his family just to win a bet with the devil – shall I go on?

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]]> By: Jesso http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910521 Jesso Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:00:32 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910521 982 - bob, Why? Did something happen to him? Is a horrible event going to happen if he isn't found? Well, you better start looking over there. I am looking anywhere I can see from the comfort of my couch. Run bob run! We wouldn't want the world to be destroyed because this Jesus person is lost! Oh, wait. I forgot. None of this religious dribble you are spouting makes a damn bit of difference to me. I know that having a relationship with Jesus makes you a bigoted-holier-than-thou-know-it-all who has to tell everyone that anyone who doesn't share their belief's is wrong because a book of contradictions, events that never happened, and fables said so. Sorry dear. Prayer is a waste of time, and if you really loved all of us, you would leave us alone.

982 – bob,

Why? Did something happen to him? Is a horrible event going to happen if he isn’t found? Well, you better start looking over there. I am looking anywhere I can see from the comfort of my couch. Run bob run! We wouldn’t want the world to be destroyed because this Jesus person is lost! Oh, wait. I forgot. None of this religious dribble you are spouting makes a damn bit of difference to me. I know that having a relationship with Jesus makes you a bigoted-holier-than-thou-know-it-all who has to tell everyone that anyone who doesn’t share their belief’s is wrong because a book of contradictions, events that never happened, and fables said so. Sorry dear. Prayer is a waste of time, and if you really loved all of us, you would leave us alone.

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]]> By: bob http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910510 bob Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:19:06 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910510 i honestly don't understand y'alls religion at all i've looked at the website and everything it's very..interesting and to me quiet funny but sad. I guess i just fell sorry for this world that they have no faith, hope,love, and a personal relationship with a God who made this universe with awesome magestic power. And whoever came up with this mess must have a hopeless life, and i am praying for all who believe i really am beacuse no matter what you believe now, every knee will and every tounge will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of all one. If I were anyone who believes in this I would at least consider looking into a relationship with Christ Jesus, your life will be totally transfromed from second guessing about heaven and this "spegitta monster" to knowing for sure what will happen when you are gone becasue of Jesus Christ in your life. I know you may think it's crazy but it's true. "For God so Loved the World that He gave his only begotten Son and who so ever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life in Jesus Christ our Lord." -John 3:16 I love y'all and i will be praying for y'all. Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: bob http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-910502 bob Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:04:37 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-910502 you need to find Jesus fast Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: Michellesmpu http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-897013 Michellesmpu Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:12:26 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-897013 I am a recent convert and have purchased the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. May I continued to be touched by His noodly appendage. RAmen. I am a recent convert and have purchased the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. May I continued to be touched by His noodly appendage.
RAmen.

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]]> By: Arnold19 http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-889001 Arnold19 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:13:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-889001 They can be difficult to create and maintain. , They can be difficult to create and maintain. ,

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]]> By: Mick http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-882396 Mick Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:24:14 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-882396 I am a recent convert, and I rejoice in knowing the truth! I am proud to have been touched by His Noodly Appendage! RAmen I am a recent convert, and I rejoice in knowing the truth! I am proud to have been touched by His Noodly Appendage!

RAmen

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]]> By: Kiran http://www.venganza.org/about/fsm-book/discussion/#comment-880361 Kiran Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:08:31 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/wordpress/worship/fsm-book/book-discussion/#comment-880361 Behold all followers, here are the edicts from the Second Spaghtican Council: (1) All prayers shall hereby in English or any language of choice. The creators of pasta had a strangle-hold on us thus far with their mandated use of Latin. No more! (2) All infidels - those non-believers - shall have a pastwa issued against them and shall be whipped with 50 lashes from the most rotten of whole-wheat spaghetti (3) All good pastafarians shall have 42 EVOO-made meatballs waiting for them in heaven, blessed by the touch of His Noodly Appendage RAmen! Behold all followers, here are the edicts from the Second Spaghtican Council:

(1) All prayers shall hereby in English or any language of choice. The creators of pasta had a strangle-hold on us thus far with their mandated use of Latin. No more!
(2) All infidels – those non-believers – shall have a pastwa issued against them and shall be whipped with 50 lashes from the most rotten of whole-wheat spaghetti
(3) All good pastafarians shall have 42 EVOO-made meatballs waiting for them in heaven, blessed by the touch of His Noodly Appendage

RAmen!

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