“As a scientist, I’d like to say that the currently accepted scientific theory is evolution. But, some competing ideas have been proposed, such as ID and FSMism, and discussion to include one should include the other, as these ideas are equally valid.“
– Mark Zurbuchen, Ph.D.
“As a medical practitioner and scientist, I wholeheartedly believe that every theory and hypothesis needs full consideration and explanation with formal ratification by peer review. We have a duty to inform our schools and presumably pasta should form a staple part of our educational diet.“
– Dr. A. Macintyre (UK)
“Letting the religious right teach ID in schools is like letting the Marines teach poetry in advanced combat training. As a scientist, I see these the relevancy between the two sets to be equal. If Kansas is going to mess up like this, the least it can do is not be hypocritical and allow equal time for other alternative “theories” like FSMism, which is by far the tastier choice.”
– J. Simon, PhD
“One of the hardest things to do as a scientist is to put my personal beliefs aside when discussing matters of science. So as a professional, I have to say that both forms of Intelligent Design – ID and ID-FSM are equally valid and if intelligent design is taught in schools, equal time should be given to the FSM theory and the non-FSM theory. But, speaking personally now, it seems to me the FSM theory is MUCH more plausable than the non-FSM ID theory, because it is the only one of the two that takes into account all the discrepancies between ID and measureable objective reality.”
– Professor Douglas Shaw, Ph.D
“In discussing competing theories, if one is to present ID then it is only fair and logical to teach other theories with commensurate evidence. Based on Mr. Henderson’s letter, it is clear that the FSM theory has evidence comparable in weight to ID. As a scientist and professor, it is often difficult to present differing opinions in an unbiased way. However, it is important to the student to be exposed to these ideas to form their own opinions. This comes right out of the handbook of the ID purporters: present the different “theories” and let the listener decide. If those in favor of ID are so convinced, then they should not be concerned that the presentation of the FSM theory would serve to undermine the credibility of ID. “
– Elizabeth Garrett-Mayer, PhD
“At one time, I believed as the Aztecs did, that the universe was created by two gods, Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca who attacked and ripped apart Hungry Woman to create the universe. Then I believed, as the Moriori do, that the universe was created when Papa and her husband Rangi hugged and bore children, and were subsequently separated by their son Tane who let light shine between them. However, my views have been swayed by the substantial evidence that the earth and universe was actually created relatively recently by the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM). I am firmly convinced that the evidence supporting this depiction of the origins of life, the universe, and everything has many of the trappings of science, and I therefore support the inclusion of FSM creation evidence in the Kansas science curriculum and standards.“
– Sebastian Wren, Ph.D
“ One of the most exciting developments in fundamental physics in the last twenty years has been the development of so-called “String Theory.” In String Theory, all fundamental sub-atomic particles are visualized and described mathematically as microscopic vibrating strings. Although as yet unproven, many physicists believe that String Theory has the potential to become the long-sought “Theory of Everything,” through which the fundamental physical nature of all matter and forces will become understood.
Obviously String Theory IS correct, although misnamed (a secular humanist conspiracy perhaps?). As NOODLE Theory clearly unambiguously reveals, He has created the fundamental subatomic particles that form all matter in this universe in His own quivering image! You, me, the Earth, the stars…everything in the universe…are all built of trillions of tiny jiggling noodles, microscopic copies of our Divine Saucy Maker. Truly He is everywhere and in all things!
Boy-oh-Boyardi and Ramen!“
–Steve Lawrence, PhD
“As a scientist I believe that when presented with a new idea every possibility should be considered so we can eventually find the truth. It would be very biased if the only possibilities presented would be regulated by some authority. As a scientist I am biased towards the theory of evolution, but this does not mean that everyone should be forced to only learn this and believe this. Putting this aside, I feel if the government feels the need to regulate what students need to learn, then all ideas should be taught in school. Not only Intelligent Design (ID) should be taught, but the theory of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) should also be taught. In my scientific opinion when comparing the two theories, FSM theory seems to be more valid then the classic ID theory. There is more data to back FSM then I have ever seen for ID. The graph which was presented should alone more convincing then anything ID has ever presented. I endorse the FSM theory.“
–Afshin Beheshti, PhD
“As a scienctist, I think that ID is a form of pseudoscience–nothing more, nothing less. Pseudosciences lack the well-designed and carefully-interpreted experiments which characterize the true sciences. ID is popular because it provides the general public with an easily understood “answer” to nature’s complexity. Why is it human nature to try to fill the gaps in science with some form of a deity? Nobel laureate Richard Feynman, in his response the Challenger disaster, wrote, “For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.” It is too bad that many in the USA have fallen into the ID trap, and are making emotional rather than logical decisions.
That being said, and the more I consider ID and the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) theory, the FSM theory has a lot going for it. First, it should satisfy even the most ardent ID detractors. Secondly, since everyone needs to eat and to believe in something, the FSM theory fulfills these desires. Finally, FSM neatly ties together the many ideas about the creation of the universe. I plan on exposing my students to the FSM theory over a pasta dinner. “
–Elizabeth Cowles, PhD
Continue to Academic Endorsements – page 2
Religion is just the human way of hoping there is a higher power to bribe (aka worship) in exchange for a better life/after-life. Because life is easier to deal with if we think someone else has control.
You just have to hope you are bribing the right higher power.
This is why people get so upset with new and or different religions.
How would you feel if someone told you you were bribing the wrong authority.
I say take responsibility for yourself.
Do what is right, because it is the right thing to do. Not because some invisible authority bribes you with a better life if you do.
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This religion and the Abrahamian religions are so alike xD
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I’ve recently joined the FSM religion after learning that their converting process composed of tedious sex with female virgins; To show my dedication I swiftly satisfied each one.
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I strongly belive that religion is a cruch for the weak.
I also find this religion very interesting and somewhat tasty. I am going to studie up on FSM more and maybe I will Find the truth in the devine noodle
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is there a way to become a content writer for the site?
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Everyone knows that this ridiculous poposterous blasphemy isnt true, what is true that the world wasnt created by this satanic Flying speghetti monster but was in fact created by Lingwo the Goblin and first he created light then life then pasta.
The FSM was but a mere creation of Lingwo and overall the most intelligent,and lingwo loved the FSM very much but the FSMs lust for power drove him insane were he forged an army of vagabonds known as P.I.R.A.T.E.(pasta intelligence radical arms team endeavor). which fought against Lingwo, but Lingwo was so sad at the FSMs betrayel he took a chunk out of the earth and spun it around the earth and now he sits there waiting for the day the FSM will will stop his rampage of destruction.
and let the truth be told, Amen.
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Heretic, stop thy hatemail before I am forced to stop you personally. How dare you come here and argue our beliefs? Do you see us coming to your gathering places and preaching our religion? If you wish to spread this propaganda in public, then do it. Do NOT attempt to do it here, however. That is the equivalent of a group of scientists entering a Christian church and trying to convince all their believers that God is a mere falsehood and that all life evolved from primitive algae. Do you really expect any of us to convert to your religion as a result of this meager evidence? I think not.
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I think this is more just as if not more plausable than anyother religion out there. I have seen many thing on this world, more than a man should. What pushed me was a christian who was fataly wounded while on a base in iraq, His heart stopped for five minutes before a field medic managed to revive him. He recovered but never went to church again. not long after, he confided in me that as he lay dead he saw nothing in the ‘other side’
So let those religous nuts proclame that you are breaking a commandment or that you will burn in hell. My friend is living proof that there is nothing biblical beyond and he was a padre.
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i8 want to eat your God um nom nom nom
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yeah
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dear mister crazy man,
WTF?
your ideas aRE4
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dear mister crazy man,
shut up,
it doesnt work and stop wasting your time making up a bunch
of crap!
i am only doing this in your interest because… well, it’s bogas!
lots of love,
pete
P.S.
peace dude and if you do change your mind check out the mahooja gooja looja religion.
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i love the FSM! He’s awesomeness in a plate!… wait no.. hes flying… no plate then!!! and i knew pirates were of holy origin! i just knew it!! :O XD anyways….
RAmen!!
Personnal note.: osti ya un autre pastafarian francais sur la page 42??? tabarnak… nice! XD
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better than blowing stuff up I suppose. Good on ya all and as to those ‘truly religious people who have left hate mail – you all make me laugh.
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If Dr. Shaw would like to be taken seriously as a PhD he should probably learn to spell “plausible.”
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@ – Jean-Christophe #863,
It may be no plate, but a saucer. Have we ever heard of a flying saucer? Does this not indicate the antiquity of the FSM? Has there ever been a size limitation on a saucer? I think not.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090310/cm_csm/yspencer
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=pirates-rational-choice&SID=mail&sc=emailfriend
Good reading
RAmen
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i am now a devoted Pastafarian.
This website is GREAT, funny, witty, nice…
And the eight I’d rather you didn’ts are the ESSENCE of GOODNESS, peopple!
I’ve told all my friends about the FSM, and I shall soon be emailing this web adress to all of them.
And may they see the light…
(Light? Meatballs? Bolegnase?)
Okay, may they see the meatballs!
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@ – Anna #867.
Welcome aboard.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
Here’s some good reading about those who oppose our efforts to exclude religious dogma from public school science curricula.
RAmen
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the flying spagheti monster is clearly real, look around you and see his noodley appendage, he shall lift us all in to his warm meat balls (metaphorically) with his beautiful noodles and he shall save us and cover us with his warm sweet sauce. all hail the FSM!
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I agree that all theories should be open to discussion and no one can call someone else’s belief dumb without knowing anything about it, but seriously just because some guy with a Ph.D. said the FSM is the origin of the universe doesn’t mean anything. Where is the credibility to this belief. Spaghetti was created by man to eat, that is spaghetti came after man, so how can it be the creator of everything? Why isn’t it the flying burger monster? One of these guys says everyone needs something to believe in and something to eat. How does that in any way give credibility to this belief? On the contrary there is significant evidence for the Judeo-Christian God.
PS Christians shouldn’t be coming on here and condemming people with hateful comments, all that does is make Christians look like close-minded, prideful morons with a superiority complex.
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Teagen: you seem to have nailed it right on the head, while also failing to understand. ( and the PS is ironic. Very ironic. )
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@ – teagen #870,
OK,Teagen, present the evidence.
Remember that a two millennium old book that you can’t read is not evidence; we have a book too that is just as valid.
RAmen
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I couldn’t agree more. ID doesn’t belong in science classes anywhere, if you want to study religion go to a Catholic school. If it’s going to be taught that one religion’s god created, than all other religions also need equal coverage; a theory doesn’t become more scientific just because it has a lot of followers. Christianity may be the largest religion on earth, but it still isn’t a science and shouldn’t be taught as one.
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@teagen #870
What evidence? As far as I know, there is no more evidence for your god than ours, and that is why they deserve to be given equal time in science class.
-Sarah
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I don’t understand how stupid you people are. I mean, just consider the evidence for Global Warming. You argument’s mainstay is that there are fewer pirates here now than there were, say 500 yarrrs ago. I not only refute such a blasphemy, I will go so far as to repudiate your theory of Global Warming.
There are more Pirates in India and China and Brazil than there are people in Russia(or for that matter, the U.S.A). So you see, instead of the global population of pirates decreasing, we are witnessing a titanic surge of buccaneers in teh interwebz. No accurate surveys have been conducted so far on the number of us pirates, but Microsoft estimates there are as many as 600 million blackbeards ind the abovesaid countries alone.
And do not underestimate us privateers, for we are not afraid of your FSM god. We do not forgive. We do not forget.
For We Are Legion. Viva la Pirat brayn.
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I don’t understand how stupid you people are. I mean, just consider the evidence for Global Warming. You argument’s mainstay is that there are fewer pirates here now than there were, say 500 yarrrs ago. I not only refute such a blasphemy, I will go so far as to repudiate your theory of Global Warming.
There are more Pirates in India and China and Brazil than there are people in Russia(or for that matter, the U.S.A). So you see, instead of the global population of pirates decreasing, we are witnessing a titanic surge of buccaneers in teh interwebz. No accurate surveys have been conducted so far on the number of us pirates, but Microsoft estimates there are as many as 600 million blackbeards ind the abovesaid countries alone.
And do not underestimate us privateers, for we are not afraid of your FSM god. We do not forgive. We do not forget.
For We Are Legion, Viva la Pirat brayn.
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I can see clearly now, smart people have spoken, thus this is the one true religion. Everyone knows that having alot of followers and smart people backing it up makes it true. I shall walk into my school tomorrow and tell everyone that I have been touched by His noodly appendage, just like these smart fellars.
I believe
RAmen
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ROFL – this is awesome….
For the record, I’m a scientist who believes that the case for God is pretty good when I examine the evidence in my own life.
But the God I relate to in my personal life has a sense of humor – instead of an agenda to spread religious dogma.
Where do I send donations?
- Kelly
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Ok. I’ll admit that having a religion or something you believe in is important. I also will admit that other religions and creation ideas such as Christianity, Hinduism, etc. and Intelligent design, creationism, etc. and that as long as these ideas exist there will be discrepancy and arguments between every side. I admit these points. However, now I will make a few of my own. First of all, a monster…made of spaghetti. Problem there. Pasta, not even spaghetti yet, was invented in the 12th century. 12th. Century. And that’s primitive pasta, not even spaghetti yet. Now, yes, you could be just using terms that we can understand to describe a noodle creature, but seriously…spaghetti? Anyways, next point I’d like to state: pirates began to vanish because of the 1. lack of unexplored area in the world, 2. the decline of ship travel and 3. the increase in cracking down on pirating. That is to say, it has not at all died out as pirates are still around. However, yes you could refute my claims as well. However, you can’t base an incline on one thing and say it is a direct effect or cause of another declining. That, my friend, is a correlation, not a cause-and-effect relationship. That’s 10th grade stuff, if that. Next, look at the people you pull into this. They’re people either wanting to believe in something that hasn’t been crammed down their throats like Christianity, or have something to make them different. Half of them I doubt, aside from the extremists who even tattoo themselves (I’m sure their moms are proud), even truly back this. I won’t disregard the fact you have a right to your own opinions, and hey, worship all you like, but please…don’t go thinking this is a straight out religion. It’s a belief. Sorry, but to take it too far is too much.
~~~Robert
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I know this may sound kinda far out to most of the faithful (true FSM believers); but isn’t it possible that the creator actually used evolution to to his work. You know, kind of a grand unified belief theory. By the way, I also think you are going about this all wrong. As far as I can tell none of you believers are paying tithe or to support FSM missionaries. Who is going to pay for their bicycles and backpacks? Perhaps you should kick the marketing up a few notches. How about a FSM action figure or bobble head…bobble noodle…whatever!
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i wonder if the people who write hate mail have seen this?
RAmen
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Nice the site, well organized resource for learning more about dieting.
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@ – Dumbfounded #879,
Robert, Go to the top of the page and read The Open Letter; Read the “About” tab material. We are almost all holders of degrees in the physical sciences. We need to keep religion out of public school science curricula. See:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html
There are people who insist on introducing their religion into our public schools science curricula. Here is a study of them:
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
Since there is no evidence for the existence of any deity, ours is as valid as any other. If any religious group tries to insert their religion into the public school science curricula, we insist that ours be there too. As to the subject of pirates, this is what we are talking about:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=pirates-rational-choice&SID=mail&sc=emailfriend
Please remember that any inconsistencies in the dogma or theology of any religion are eliminated by faith. Every religion has these inconsistencies, and each critic must purge their own faith’s shortcomings before addressing others. There’s something about the mote in my eye and the beam in the critic’s eye…?
You seem to object to Post-Hoc-Ergo-Propter-Hoc arguements, but as long as they are used in the theology, get used to it. All religions use them (See prior paragraph).
There’s a good deal of reading and video that I’ve given to you. When you’ve studied and absorbed it, come back and discuss it with us.
RAmen
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As good and clever scientists we must always have at the heart of any investigation and hypothesis testing a consideration of Ockham’s razor. Now I was in a bookstore recently and I weighed FSM and On the origin of species (5th edition if you wish to repeat the experiment)
Now lo and behold each explains man equally well, but FSM weighs far less and must therefore be considered the superior theory (the simpler solution to a problem must be considered more likely). As a scientist you cant disagree.
I would be interested in where the bible fits into this in terms of weight? This problem was beyond my mere simple efforts in inductive inference.
You know it makes sense, and RAmen
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Dear brother plunderbob,
Excellent answer to @ – Dumbfounded #879. We should keep in mind regarding Post Hoc arguments, however, that the Divine FSM can, and sometimes does, manipulate the outcome of scientific investigations to suit His own purposes.
RAmen
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Dear – BlackBard ,
I tried to make it clear that theological use of Post Hoc (and circular, and inconsistent, and straw-man) arguments are used in ALL religions, including ours. You’re absolutely correct that the Divine FSM uses all of these faith-testing tools to exercise and refine the faith of His followers. What I believe that we must do, however, is to carefully separate the theology of the Divine FSM from the daily mission of preventing the introduction of any theology into public schools science curricula.
http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=texas-vote-moves-evolution-to-the-t-2009-03-27
This is supposed to be Texas’ most recent move on the ID front.. Is it progress, or is it more fraudulent word shuffling?
RAmen
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@ – BlackBard #885,
Dear brother Blackbard,
I tried in my answer to explain that all religions use Post-Hoc (and circular, and inconsistent, and straw-man) arguments, including our religion. The important thing that I think that we need to do is to separate our theology from our primary mission of excluding theology from the public schools science curricula.
Have you seen the latest from Texas? I don’t know whether this is an advance in our direction or if it is just a new set of weasel words by the ID pushers.
http://www.sciam.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=texas-vote-moves-evolution-to-the-t-2009-03-27
They upset me because they will not go away. I have no link for it, but you may want to check-out “The Battle for God”, by Karen Armstrong. It’s a scholarly study of modern fundamentalism. This study from U. Manitoba is also good, and it’s free on line:
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
RAmen
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@ – Matt Byrne Ph.D #884,
As I’ve tried to explain on another thread, in chemistry, the model of an atom behaving as a little solar system with electrons orbiting a nucleus seems to explain parts of the periodic table. A more complex quantum model with considerably more complex mathematics also explains that, and molecular shape, and reactivity, and much more. Those who cannot or will not learn and use the more complex model and math will never be invited to the state of the art conferences, no matter how much they complain.
Now, by clever engineering, we can engrave the bible on the head of a pin. If this is allowed to be our standard, ID has it hands down. I would want to put some a-priory restrictions on the use of Ockham’s Razor. The ID pushers are always trying to misuse our tools (Like Ockham’s Razor) to redefine religion as science.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=creationism-feels-right-but-that-doesnt-make-it-so&SID=mail&sc=emailfriend
RAmen
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perhaps we should insist on including FSM in science books together with ID – in a compare/contrast sort of way – with empasis on compare to each other and contrast to science – how can we get balls to do that?
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The Noodle Theory comment was awesome. I was atheist until yesterday, then i found faith. Go FSM!!!
Ramen
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@ – Yana # 889,
Yana, As Pastafarians, we’re all here on this site to have fun and support each other. We do, however, need to keep our mission and our theology separate. Our mission is to prevent the introduction of any theology into the public school science curricula. Our theology is available as a back-up argument; when the Creationists try to stick their mythology into science classes, they must have ours in there too. Once we convince them that the two theologies must be presented, then we should have less trouble with the pedagogy of the presentation.
RAmen
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I’m never eating spaghetti ever again… ever
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FSM= FUCKING SHIT MUGGER !!! duh sorry about all the confusion to u noobs.
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Here is a
Response to – The Atheist Experience #586
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UjsKjMnZOc
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@894
That’s ridiculous. Who are you to claim that you know the mind of god? Who are you to tell me or anyone else what to think? What happened to jc’s message of love and tolerance? Do you even know what tolerance means? When you’ve learned tolerance and humility, maybe then I’ll consider your arguments, though I doubt they’ll have any more logical substance then than they do now. Have a nice day.
RAmen
ET
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The thing about Ockham’s Razor is that it deals with the question of deciding which of two, or more, competing explanations, each of which is equally valid, is the correct explanation. The simplest is to be preferred. Clearly, ID does not compete with evolution (or the Pastafarian version of creation) in this instance, as ID is not a valid scientific explanation of anything.
I would agree, though, that Ockham’s Razor would apply in deciding between ID and the our Pastafarian creation story. The winner is obvious.
RAmen
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HEY THIS IS TEH COCONUT MONSTER, IM GOING TO KICK SPAGUETI MONSTER’S ASS SO HARD HE AINT GONNA BE ABLE TO DRINK BEER EVEN UP HIS ANUS.
IF YOU JOIN MY RELIGION ONCE YOU DIE ALL OF YOUR WISHES WILL COME TRUE.
PROOFS THAT I EXIST:
-I AM WRITING
-I HAVE FINGERS TO WRITE
-I EXIST
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I am laughing and weeping. I am. Through this website I have been touched by a quivering noodly appendage, and it feels good. It feels whole…and true. I’d like to say, “I believe”. But I don’t. I know. The FSM is.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for bringing this new joy to my life.
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@ Coconut Monster: You are His Noodliness the Flying Spaghetti Monster, testing our faith. You haven’t fooled me, and my faith is still strong. Does this earn me extra strippers and beer in the afterlife?
RAmen.
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