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Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act

Published May 28th, 2011 by Bobby Henderson

 

Here’s a video of Zack Kopplin on Hardball last night.  Zack is the student battling the Lousiana Science Education Act – a law that would allow “supplemental textbooks and other teaching materials” into science classrooms.  Zack saw this (correctly) as a backdoor method to teach Creationism and has been leading the fight against it.

Some of us remember the LSEA bill passing in 2008.  Zack’s been trying to get it repealed since then.  He found a senator to sponsor the repeal and has since found thousands of supporters (including over 40 Noble Laureates).  Yesterday Zack brought teachers and scientists to testify in favor of the repeal in front of the Louisiana Senate Education Committee.

Zack makes a couple excellent points on Hardball.  One is that science *is* a process of critical thinking (one of the ostensible purposes of the law is to promote critical thinking).  Another point is that a state’s science standards determine how their students will be viewed elsewhere. 

He also slams Michelle Bachman which is both fair and entertaining.

All in all it was an excellent appearance.  Zack deserves a lot of credit for his work.  I for one am very impressed and I’m confident he has a bright future ahead of him.  Whatever the fate of the repeal, Zack’s done a tremendous service for the cause of rationality.  The fight is as important as the outcome.  The Louisiana legislature may reject reason for a few more years but the rest of the world has benefited from watching this ordeal.   There are bills similar to the LSEA all across the country – it’s an ongoing struggle, and I’m glad there are people like Zack on our side.

Zack, please let us know if you need anything from Team FSM.  We have your back.



380 Responses to “Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act”

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  1. DVDA says:

    There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages.

    • J Larson says:

      You are sad. Any other random combo of related facts you would like to share? In order to skew the real truth in order to influence others with your own distorted truth that is? You are kind of like an annoying news caster or politician that cuts off the speech or tape so that the real character of the individual or organization will be seen in the poorest light possible.

      • theFewtheProudtheMarinara says:

        Here’s another pair of “unrelated facts”. The Taliban controlled Afghanistan several years ago, and – well – tourism was down.

      • TiltedHorizon says:

        “skew the truth”?

        If you feel the ‘facts’ are wrong then correct them else you may as well hold your breath, arms crossed, and stomp your feet, like a kid having a tantrum (kind of like you already did).

        Want more ‘random combos of related facts’?

        How about the fact that the middle east is the birth place of the Abrahamic texts (Which has given the world Judaism, Islam, & Christianity), which explains why the middle east is also known as the happiest place on earth.

      • nun s equator says:

        ???

        J lars,

        what u just said, is political.

        who r u referring 2? what u just said describes the mechanics of slandering some1. ive been, slandered…i continu 2 b. so i know it when i c it.

        • nun s equator says:

          Of course its hard 2 say what the display reads on THIS end vs what is actually displayed…which i m responding, 2.

      • john c says:

        Which truth would that be? actual , evidence based scientific truth, or biblical”Truth”,notice, only the biblical one needs quotes,because the word is being used outside its dictionary definition.

    • Gary Fandango says:

      But now the FSM rules! But beware, there are unbelievers, the despicable “apasteists”. Read about them here:

      http://open.salon.com/blog/gary_fandango/2012/04/13/athpasteists_deny_existence_of_flying_spaghetti_monster

  2. nun s equator says:

    so what is this lsea bill & was it repealed?

    (@ least this may have distracted legislators away from womens collective ovaries for a few mins…)

    • nun s equator says:

      i found this.

      http://lasciencecoalition.org/category/repeal-louisiana-science-education-act/

      • nun s equator says:

        Excerpt:

        ” …all fair game in science classrooms. So now, with the law on the books, what do teachers have to do as a result? Here, after three years, is the definitive answer:

        NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE, ITTY BITTY THING.

        The bill permits using creationist supplements, but it does not require teachers to do anything. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Zip.

        Teachers do not have to do a single thing differently than they were doing before this ridiculous law was passed. Before the LSEA was passed, teachers were required to teach science according to the Louisiana Content Standards (pdf) and Grade Level Expectations. That’s what they are required to do today. Just teach science properly, and let the creationists stew in their own juices. And please contact the Louisiana Science Coalition if there are any problems. We’re here to help.

        Please pass it on.”

        • nun s equator says:

          this interested me, because i had a decent percentile ranking in science on 1 test, yrs ago..while sedated on (prescribed pharmaceutical) meds. its evidence i had a promising future in the past, which amounts 2 each the other were canceled out. i m hoping zacks life goes a whole bunch better & then some.

        • john c says:

          Nice point, however, it misses the point that there are a few science teachers out there who have a hidden agenda, ie to sneak creationism, or “inteligent design”into the clasroom.If you give them enough rope, they will hang you with it.

  3. LemonTester says:

    This kid gives me hope for the future of our species.

    • nun s equator says:

      agreed. ..& if nothing else, perhaps he can gain an education in the field of science, go into research & development & genetically tinker, come up with a new hybrid species of us….

      joking. in case any1 is on the cusp of that (u never kno)…

      it has been real. I never talkd about any of this off line unless i was coerced or yelled @ about things i had no interest in…& so my seeming interest here has been more an act of desparation, among others elsewhere…

      thanks 4 toler8ng what would there4 b otherwise out of context, if i were u…& prob, still is since i lack ability 2 clarify anything or limit 2 so many words or less.

  4. mtn_viking says:

    Indiana has now passed a law allowing schools to teach creationism in that state. Looks like we need to see a push to have Pastafarianism taught alongside creationism in Indiana!

    • Apprentice Frederic says:

      It does look that way. How about establishing a Sir Henry Morgan Chair of Pastafarian Studies at – there hasta be one – the Churubusco Evangelical College? Besides the Chair, we could endow suitable academic robes as well….

    • TheFewTheProudTheMarinara says:

      If I lived in Indiana I’d immediately petition the legislature to pass a law allowing the schools to teach witchcraft, voodoo, fortune-telling, astrology , etc. If they rejected it, it would show the religious bias of their previous decision.

    • Omnipotent Zombie says:

      Ramen. The Gospel of the FSM will be more than enough to serve as the textbook for the couse. It has charts, graphs, data, and pictures; everything you need to make it educational.

  5. Apprentice Frederic says:

    An apology and a comment about one of our purposes and about seriousness vs. frivolity (another thread!). Apologies first for a trivial response to mtn_viking and some few other similar ones. Although lighthearted but cogent banter is a hallmark and one high point of this site, I want to say that I was brought up short by a link forwarded to me by an acquaintance and former colleague:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/feb/19/science-scepticism-usdomesticpolicy
    The point of the link was to register an impression that anti-science has evolved (yes, goddamnit, evolved!) rather far beyond mere schoolboard/legislature fundie thickheadedness to a methodical attack on science in general and any scientist in particular whose results or studies irritate some well-funded sector of self-interest. This website has survived – thanks to many whom I think will make thoughtful responses – a recent wave of pretty awful fundie bullshit, but I hope we don’t lose sight of more serious threats and don’t stop thinking about ways to influence a larger debate than whether Zuri is really 12 years old or thether atheism is a belief or a non-belief. If this stimulates a storm of obloquy, I promise to do the manly thing and throw myself on the next noodle I encoounter.
    R’Amen.

    • Olio says:

      Very effective at stirring the kettle (of sauce).

  6. JosefVStalin says:

    This man has my full support. He’s definitely accurate and justified in what he said, and I certainly hope the repeal is decided in his favour.

    However, doesn’t this also give us a chance to make a textbook of the FSM that can be taught in schools? While I agree with this guy, I also believe this may be a chance to produce wide-spread educational material so that members of our religion may grow considerably.

  7. Jyrbain says:

    Zack Kopplin: Legit boss.

  8. Hopium says:

    Bobby – *Nobel.

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