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Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act

Published May 28th, 2011 by Bobby Henderson

 

Here’s a video of Zack Kopplin on Hardball last night.  Zack is the student battling the Lousiana Science Education Act – a law that would allow “supplemental textbooks and other teaching materials” into science classrooms.  Zack saw this (correctly) as a backdoor method to teach Creationism and has been leading the fight against it.

Some of us remember the LSEA bill passing in 2008.  Zack’s been trying to get it repealed since then.  He found a senator to sponsor the repeal and has since found thousands of supporters (including over 40 Noble Laureates).  Yesterday Zack brought teachers and scientists to testify in favor of the repeal in front of the Louisiana Senate Education Committee.

Zack makes a couple excellent points on Hardball.  One is that science *is* a process of critical thinking (one of the ostensible purposes of the law is to promote critical thinking).  Another point is that a state’s science standards determine how their students will be viewed elsewhere. 

He also slams Michelle Bachman which is both fair and entertaining.

All in all it was an excellent appearance.  Zack deserves a lot of credit for his work.  I for one am very impressed and I’m confident he has a bright future ahead of him.  Whatever the fate of the repeal, Zack’s done a tremendous service for the cause of rationality.  The fight is as important as the outcome.  The Louisiana legislature may reject reason for a few more years but the rest of the world has benefited from watching this ordeal.   There are bills similar to the LSEA all across the country – it’s an ongoing struggle, and I’m glad there are people like Zack on our side.

Zack, please let us know if you need anything from Team FSM.  We have your back.



386 Responses to “Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act”

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  1. Rev Rotelli Carbonara says:

    Che la salsa sia con voi.

  2. ufo says:

    Bravo, Zack! Right on! There needs to be an intelligence test for public office. Candidates should at least be able to read at least one entire book or at least be able to explain to their constituency why they hold a book which justifies slavery among other atrocities to be their one and only guide to morality.

  3. nunya biz says:

    Really, Louisuana?

    Zack attack…

  4. Uncle Sean says:

    That kid has a heck of a future. More power to him!!

  5. Kyla says:

    This gave me chills. It is so refreshing to see empowered youth who use reason and logic and are able to make positive changes! It terrifies me the way our nation is turning, binding church and state. Our founding fathers are turning in their graves. This country was founded on the separation of church and state. These blurred lines are making it easier for Creationist propaganda to invade the minds of the impressionable youth of our nation. Let’s protect our constitutional rights of separation and let’s protect the minds of our youth. LET REASON REIGN!

  6. Nate says:

    Way to go Zack. Grow but don’t change.

  7. Mark says:

    This nation was founded on Christian principles starting with the Pilgrims who inspired the founding fathers. I vote we start teaching everything and let the chips fall where they may. Teach about the discovery of Noah’s ark in Turkey. Let’s get it all out there and if you’re ignorant enough to think that human beings and your life is nothing more than sex, eating, and video games and then eventual worm food; than you deserve a place of eternal suffering.

    • Apprentice Frederic says:

      Mark, I think that if you check into the details, you’ll find that the Pilgrims carried the intolerance from which they suffered in England straightway to the New World and reinstituted it here for the purification of those with whom they differed. You might even find that the real founding fathers were inspired thereby to keep lunatic puritanical zealotry out of our government. ( And you’re welcome to correct me and guaranteed a sincere apology if Thomas Jefferson was not an example of such inspiration. And don’t tell me Michelle Bachmann was a founding father – or mother.) Finally, if you’re ignorant enough to imagine that sex, eating, and video games are all that motivate those of us who disagree with you latter-day puritans, you deserve a place of eternal stale beer and strippers in a dance-hall where the walls crawl with gonococci. Merry ChrisFSMas.

    • puppygoogoo says:

      Mark,

      After checking the National Geographic website:
      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/
      It appears not even the xtians can agree as to whether or not that is Noah’s Ark or not. So to teach about it would not be wise as there isnt enough evidence to support that claim. Now for the quote, “Let’s get it all out there and if you’re ignorant enough to think that human beings and your life is nothing more than sex, eating, and video games and then eventual worm food; than you deserve a place of eternal suffering.” If you believe that by praying to a god, that cant be seen and proven to exist, will somehow make your life a better place then hopefully you are being a better person. For us however, we dont need the promise of a better life once we die to be better people. We can see that acting like a Human Being is better than trying to apease some deity to make us feel better and give us ‘bragging rights’ over the next person. Hope to hear back from you.

      Cheers

      Puppygoogoo

    • TiltedHorizon says:

      “This nation was founded on Christian principles starting with the Pilgrims…”

      Which principals are those? The obliteration of the native American Indians or the labeling people witches then burning them at stakes?

      You need to learn your history Mark, the founding fathers were certainly godly men, in that they believed in a supreme being, but that is where your argument hits a serious snag, not all their views align with the Apostles’ Creed, meaning your views of what is “Christian” would not fit their ideologies.

      “Teach about the discovery of Noah’s ark in Turkey.”

      They found it again? I think this is the 5th time in 60 years. Let’s see, I think it was discovered back in 1948 by a Shepard boy in Turkey, again by Ron Wyatt (Turkey again) in 1987 (who coincidentally found the Ark of the Covenant, Sodom & Gomorrah, and evidence of the red sea crossing, he discoveries are prominently displayed for the world to see with their own eye, oh wait, they are not, I wonder why that is?), again in 2006 high in the mountains of northwestern Iran, then again in 2010, and now most recently by Daniel P. McGivern. Silly Christian ‘scientists/archeologists’ (or should I say ARKeologists) keep loosing that thing every time they ‘find’ it, hopefully McGivern can hold on to it as it seems to be made of butter.

      • Thomas L. Nielsen says:

        Come now, Tilted, let’s be fair: If Noah really had to evacuate two of each animal species on the planet at the time of the deluge (minus the dinosaurs, the dragons, the giants, the mastodon and the Greater Pink Unicorn), it is entirely conceivable that he would have needed more than one ark, now isn’t it? After all, there are practical limits to the size of each ark, especially with the technology and materials Noah had to work with.

        Regards & all, rAmen and Arrr (and a Merry Solstice Celebration, Christmas or whatever to all, and a safe & happy 2012),

        Thomas L. Nielsen
        Ark Safety and Seaworthiness Certification Bureau
        Luxembourg Division

      • Keith says:

        Tilted, I agree with almost everything you say except for the bit about the witches. As with English law (as opposed to Scottish law) the witches were hanged, not burned. That only happened in the Hammer films, the “House of Secrets” and in EC comics.

        • TiltedHorizon says:

          I stand corrected, according to several sources I now understand the vast majority of Witches were actually hanged (at least in the Salem, but witch burning was still practiced in other regions of the world as well as strangling and beheading) and at least one was pressed (death by torture, large stones are slowly placed on a victim over time as to not take the fun out of murder until the person is crushed ). (http://www.salemweb.com/memorial/chronology.shtml) Thanks for raising my awareness.

          Seems I was wrong Mark, unfortunately the end result remains the same, these principals you speak of only applied to other Christians (who are not witches) everyone else, as history shows, is expendable.

        • nun s equator says:

          Keith, during witchburning days, it is said contaminated rye stores, tainted by a mold toxin, were likely 2 have been ingested..resulting in hallucinations & contributing 2 the hysterical ‘environment’…a combination of that & faulty reason & logic, or so it is said. It stands 2 reason that if the witchburning era saw this tainted rye, so could have any other, era / place/ time before it…potentiality exists.

          (i know a thing or 2 about that…faulty reason & logic. did i not employ it would b left with little else)

        • nun s equator says:

          Oops. witchhangings, then…not burnings @ the stake.

        • Mal says:

          The biggest problem, in my mind, with the witch hunt hysteria that gripped Europe and the US in the 1600s can be summed up in four words: The Discoverie of Witchcraft. That was a book written by Reginald Scot, an English stage magician and conjurer, detailing how seemingly miraculous events and supernatural powers that were typically attributed to witchcraft could be accomplished using normal means. The reason I feel it’s such a big deal is that this book was written, mass produced, and widely distributed OVER 100 YEARS before the Salem witch trials. One would think that with that kind of common sense slapping people in the face, it would be easy to dismiss “witchcraft” as a bored prankster. Once again though, the idiocy of standardized religion oppressed what should have been common knowledge so that they could remain in power.

          Just my two cents.

        • Keith says:

          In England during the reign of Elizabeth the First there were a number of witch trials, although nowhere near as many as during the reign of James the First or in the Civil Wars. Many of the cases were dismissed as vexatious gossip or in some cases people were fined if they were considered to have caused malice. Hangings were rare. Prior to Elizabeth Bloody Mary had nearly 300 people burned at the stake as religious troublemakers: not as witches. I’d like to think that Elizabeth was quite enlightened for her time.

        • nun s equator says:

          Salem is what comes 2 my mind..i kno very little, m not versed in witchdom, even tho ive been literally called 1, by people claiming 2 b christian (ostensibly because i kept an herb garden out back & warned against ingesting certain plants & knew this information, @ least in part)?

        • nun s equator says:

          & not being a christian…that fueled further speculation..

    • theFewtheProudtheMarinara says:

      You should go back and read what the founding fathers said about religion, Mark. Even though politicians have to tread lightly around the subject of god’s existence, and even though evolution had not yet supplied an alternative to genesis, many of them were surprisingly IRReligious. Any scathing criticism of religion and/or god’s existence you’ve read on this site pales in comparison with the personal – and sometimes public! – sayings of Jefferson and Adams.

      “This nation was founded on Christian principles” is just a catch phrase you heard from right-wing media, isn’t it? And what does it mean, anyway? Tilted Horizon gave a couple examples. Here’s another: slavery. Oh, wait! The Buybull gives slavery its tacit approval, doesn’t it?

    • Robert says:

      Oh yes, ETERNAL SUFFERING, the by product of exercising FREEWILL which was supposedly given to us by the “Creator.” So, let’s see now; We exercise the free will we were given and for that we shall be punished in eternal hell fire for reaching a conclusion different from that of the one proffered in the Bible? Of course THAT makes perfect sense!

  8. DVDA says:

    We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes

    • theFewtheProudtheMarinara says:

      Nice.

    • Mal says:

      Brilliant. Did you come up with that or are you drawing it from somewhere? I just want to be able to credit it accurately when I quote it.

    • Mal says:

      Never mind. I just remembered why that sounded vaguely familiar. I’m going to go bang my head on the wall for a bit for not knowing that.

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