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Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act

Published May 28th, 2011 by Bobby Henderson

 

Here’s a video of Zack Kopplin on Hardball last night.  Zack is the student battling the Lousiana Science Education Act – a law that would allow “supplemental textbooks and other teaching materials” into science classrooms.  Zack saw this (correctly) as a backdoor method to teach Creationism and has been leading the fight against it.

Some of us remember the LSEA bill passing in 2008.  Zack’s been trying to get it repealed since then.  He found a senator to sponsor the repeal and has since found thousands of supporters (including over 40 Noble Laureates).  Yesterday Zack brought teachers and scientists to testify in favor of the repeal in front of the Louisiana Senate Education Committee.

Zack makes a couple excellent points on Hardball.  One is that science *is* a process of critical thinking (one of the ostensible purposes of the law is to promote critical thinking).  Another point is that a state’s science standards determine how their students will be viewed elsewhere. 

He also slams Michelle Bachman which is both fair and entertaining.

All in all it was an excellent appearance.  Zack deserves a lot of credit for his work.  I for one am very impressed and I’m confident he has a bright future ahead of him.  Whatever the fate of the repeal, Zack’s done a tremendous service for the cause of rationality.  The fight is as important as the outcome.  The Louisiana legislature may reject reason for a few more years but the rest of the world has benefited from watching this ordeal.   There are bills similar to the LSEA all across the country – it’s an ongoing struggle, and I’m glad there are people like Zack on our side.

Zack, please let us know if you need anything from Team FSM.  We have your back.



391 Responses to “Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act”

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  1. George Rodenbach says:

    Obviously, something can’t come from nothing. We couldn’t have loose particles of matter (whatever THAT is) come first. You need a perfect, all-powerful entity who ALWAYS was (think about THAT for awhile). So, to recap: loose bits = impossible; perfect all-knowing being = obvious!

    P.S. to the dude: Evidence for the Big Bang exists – the expansion of the universe, the cosmic background radiation, the heat of the universe, etc. Name ONE bit of evidence for god. Aside from intellectual laziness, that is.

  2. Karen says:

    Zack:
    Keep up the good fight!
    It’s so worth it!

  3. Gorian says:

    I wish this young man ladd success. If he doesnt win it, we can push some “supplemental textbooks and other teaching materials” of our own.

  4. Mike. says:

    Good for you, Zack!

    I have no gripe with religion until it gets used as a replacement for brains and sensible questions. If the religions of the world had their way we would all be back in the dark ages convinced the world was flat with dragons around the edges. A religion that won’t hold still under the light of examination and reason isn’t worth having. Years back the Russians had a limit on the power of microscopes, working on the theory that we don’t need to look too closely at stuff, just in case God(Tm) got angry that we were not taking His creation (excuse me while I vomit…there, that’s better, sorry) at face value.

    Never ever underestimate the power if human stupidity.

    • Noodly Goodness says:

      There’s no Dragons around the edges!!!??? I’m so… I don’t know what to… Ah Crap!!!! REALLY????

  5. john says:

    http://history.howstuffworks.com/american-history/10-biggest-lies-in-history6.htm

    5. Piltdown Man

    After ­Charles Darwin published his revolutionary “On the Origin of Species” in 1859, scientists scrambled to find fossil evidence of extinct human ancestors. They sought these so-called “missing links” to fill in the gaps on the timeline of human evolution. When archaeologist Charles Dawson unearthed what he thought was a missing link in 1910, what he really found was one of the biggest hoaxes in history.

    The discovery was the Piltdown man, pieces of a skull and jaw with molars located in the Piltdown quarry in Sussex, England. Dawson brought his discovery to prominent paleontologist Arthur Smith Woodward, who touted its authenticity to his dying day.

    Although the discovery gained world renown, the lie behind Piltdown man slowly and steadily unraveled. In the ensuing decades, other major discoveries suggested Piltdown man didn’t fit in the story of human evolution. By the 1950s, tests revealed that the skull was only 600 years old and the jaw came from an orangutan. Some knowledgeable person apparently manipulated these pieces, including filing down and staining the teeth.

    The scientific world had been duped. So who was behind the fraud? Many suspects have surfaced, including Dawson himself. Today, most signs point to Martin A. C. Hinton, a museum volunteer at the time of the discovery. A trunk bearing his initials contained bones that were stained in exactly the same way the Piltdown fossils were. Perhaps he was out to embarrass his boss, Arthur Smith Woodward, who refused to give him a weekly salary.

    • TiltedHorizon says:

      Thank you John for exposing the lie already exposed by science over 50 years ago. It would almost suggest that science is self correcting and open minded enough to dismiss false information once proved incorrect, who knew?

      Let me return the favor using the same source you provided…

      1. The Big Lie: Nazi Propaganda

      By the time Nazism arose in Germany in the 1930s, anti-Semitism was nothing new — not by a long shot. The J­ewish people had suffered a long history of prejudice and persecution. And although Nazis perpetuated centuries-old lies, this time those lies would have their most devastating effects. Like never before, anti-Semitism was manifested in a sweeping national policy known as “the Final Solution,” which sought to eliminate Jews from the face of the Earth.

      To accomplish this, Adolf Hitler and his minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, launched a massive campaign to convince the German people that the Jews were their enemies. Having taken over the press, they spread lies blaming Jews for all of Germany’s problems, including the loss of World War I. One outrageous lie dating back to the Middle Ages claimed that Jews engaged in the ritual killings of Christian children and used their blood in the unleavened bread eaten at Passover [source: Landau].

      Using Jews as the scapegoat, Hitler and his cronies orchestrated what they called “the big lie.” This theory states that no matter how big the lie is (or more precisely, because it’s so big), people will believe it if you repeat it enough. Everyone tells small lies, Hitler reasoned, but few have the guts to tell colossal lies [source: Hoffer]. Because a big lie is so unlikely, people will come to accept it.

      This theory helps us understand so many of the lies throughout history. Although we’ve barely scratched the surface of all those lies that deserve (dis)honorable mentions, you can satiate your historical curiosity by browsing the lists on the next page.

      Since I can’t bold for emphasis I’ll repost some key points:

      “This theory states that no matter how big the lie is (or more precisely, because it’s so big), people will believe it if you repeat it enough.”

      “To accomplish this, Adolf Hitler and his minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, launched a massive campaign to convince the German people that the Jews were their enemies. Having taken over the press, they spread lies blaming Jews for all of Germany’s problems, including the loss of World War I. One outrageous lie dating back to the Middle Ages claimed that Jews engaged in the ritual killings of Christian children and used their blood in the unleavened bread eaten at Passover”

      So how did Hitler achieve this? He used ‘faith’. Read his speeches if you don’t believe me.

      “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.”

      -Adolf Hitler, in Munich on 12 April 1922

      “Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God’s truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity.”

      -Adolf Hitler, in Munich, 28 July 1922

      “We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls…. We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity… in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.”

      -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Passau, 27 October 1928, Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf

      “The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were”…. I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions.”

      -Adolf Hitler, 26 April 1933

      There is more, much more but this is enough to drive the point home. Religion requires faith. Faith does not require proof. Without proof ANYTHING be be claimed as truth including the assertion to dehumanize and slaughter in the name of god.

      • Reverend Toni Rigatoni says:

        So much for the christian claims that Hitler was an atheist, eh Tilted? Few of us believed it I’m sure, but that just about tidies up all the loose ends. Seems like John has shot, if not himself then certainly plenty of his fellow christians in their collective foot by opening up that can of worms!

        Sauce be with you

        The Reverend

        • TiltedHorizon says:

          Rev,

          Personally I think the argument of Hitler’s belief is a distraction from the actual issue. What matters is that Germany was, at that time, predominantly Christian and one man was able to capitalize so easily on faith to turn them blind or complicit (ignorantly or willfully) to his real motives.

          Take note of Hitler’s April 26th speech, I selected it specifically since he used past actions of the Church as justification for his intentions.

          “The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were”

          A reference to the “Cum nimis absurdum”, a charter by the Catholic church which revoked the rights of the Jewish community by enforcing religious and economic restrictions on them as well as placing them in ghettos.

          Sauce be with you Rev.

  6. Perry Mesium says:

    Bravo Zack!

  7. Themmine1 says:

    zack,

    You are a very good man and a brave one too! I may be Christian and a pastafarian, but I also still believe in science, so thx for defending that! My hat is off to you zack, and for helping my birth state, Louisiana!

  8. Rev Rotelli Carbonara says:

    Congratulazioni a Zack. Stai facendo un buon lavoro, continuate così.
    Siamo TUTTI con voi. Si combatte la buona battaglia.

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