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Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act

Published May 28th, 2011 by Bobby Henderson

 

Here’s a video of Zack Kopplin on Hardball last night.  Zack is the student battling the Lousiana Science Education Act – a law that would allow “supplemental textbooks and other teaching materials” into science classrooms.  Zack saw this (correctly) as a backdoor method to teach Creationism and has been leading the fight against it.

Some of us remember the LSEA bill passing in 2008.  Zack’s been trying to get it repealed since then.  He found a senator to sponsor the repeal and has since found thousands of supporters (including over 40 Noble Laureates).  Yesterday Zack brought teachers and scientists to testify in favor of the repeal in front of the Louisiana Senate Education Committee.

Zack makes a couple excellent points on Hardball.  One is that science *is* a process of critical thinking (one of the ostensible purposes of the law is to promote critical thinking).  Another point is that a state’s science standards determine how their students will be viewed elsewhere. 

He also slams Michelle Bachman which is both fair and entertaining.

All in all it was an excellent appearance.  Zack deserves a lot of credit for his work.  I for one am very impressed and I’m confident he has a bright future ahead of him.  Whatever the fate of the repeal, Zack’s done a tremendous service for the cause of rationality.  The fight is as important as the outcome.  The Louisiana legislature may reject reason for a few more years but the rest of the world has benefited from watching this ordeal.   There are bills similar to the LSEA all across the country – it’s an ongoing struggle, and I’m glad there are people like Zack on our side.

Zack, please let us know if you need anything from Team FSM.  We have your back.



382 Responses to “Zack Kopplin Vs. The Louisiana Science Education Act”

  1. Hatchet-Rose says:

    *Throws over table and stands up* I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

    • Olio says:

      Wait. Here is inspiration to remain. There’s
      Zack making a difference. Then there’s this guy.

      William Kamkwamba.

      “For me science is important, because you can do lots of things that can help you, or help your community, or help your nation, or help the world.”

      Willam, when he was 14 years old and with no formal education or funding, utilizing information in a library book, decided to build a windmill. He did it. He provided electricity for his rural community in Malawe, using pvc piping, gum tree wood, scrap bicycle wheel, bamboo and other pieces to construct it. He went on to also irrigate the area with another windmill and was invited on scholarship to a University. Today he is an inventor and an author.

      • Monkiri says:

        Afterwards william became known as Mcgyver and turned 3 clips into a gattling gun and a homeless kitty shelter.

  2. chase says:

    Awesome. A round of applause for the man.

  3. Alphy says:

    It’s so nice to see this intelligent young man take a stand angainst the ignorance and hypocrisy of the religious bigots in our country. He is taking a real stand for real moral decency. Creationism is religion, not science, and attempts to present it to our children as science is intellectually dishonest as well ass immoral.

  4. nolans says:

    that dude gave me a blowjob, but he was dressed like a girl at the time so it wasnt gay for me…. i made him call me god the whole time, and he wanted me to call him mary…..

    • google police says:

      Sorry nolans–it’s officially gay for you.

  5. Rague for Profit says:

    Hail to all free thinking pastafarians! I bring you tidings of great concern from the wastelands of Indiana, whereupon the creeping theism of IDiocy has infested the teachings of science in the classrooms of the young. Yea, though there will be many trials in the future, take heart! For did we not learn from the Wholly Saucy Mama Mia, Herself that not all will partake of the Delicious Salivation of FSM, proclaiming in Her cryptic tomes, through the profit Rague,” thatsa spicy meatballa? I beseech all pastafarians and charge them with spreading the saucy knowledge of science, and be liberal in its application, for in such good deeds you feed the starving masses.

    R’amen.

  6. rob says:

    if science is the study of what things are and how they came to be,creationism is very much scientific. right or wrong? I appreciate the kids fight and all,but he,like all people, needs to think before he speaks.

    • TiltedHorizon says:

      Rob,

      Science is the study of nature, an attempt to understand how things work through a combination of observation and testing. All evidence is documented and followed until a conclusion can be drawn. All conclusions have to be vetted through peer review, anything that stands the test of time and the endless scrutiny, becomes an accepted theory until a better one can provide more evidence. Creationism is a conclusion, any evidence which can challenge it is dismissed, anything that appears to support it is kept.

      Case in point, some creationists believe dinosaurs coexisted with humans and the earth is 6000 years old. Evidence supporting this claim are tenuous at best, a “dinosaur saddle” and a fossilized “human” foot print within a dinosaur print. These “proofs” in creationism terms, outweighs the fact that tools, human remains, and human artifacts are not located in the same layer of strata where dinosaur fossils are found. They have yet to explain why dinosaur remains are isolated in the strata from humans and any other form of modern day animal. Such a gaping hole would be called out in the scientific community, in creation “science”, holes are just filled with the word “god”.

      • Keith says:

        I understand that the “fossil human footprints” have been dumped by all but the most fanatical creationists. As regards the fossil dinosaurs vs. fossil humans one extreme excuse is that dinosaurs had a higher density than mammals and sank to lower depths during the deluge. Just shows how desperate some peole are to cling to their beliefs. Early efforts to link fossils to the buybull are interesting. Scheuchzer’s “Homo Diluvii Testis” seems to have been a salamander of the Tertiary era. http://livelikedirt.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/homo-diluvii-testis-andrias-scheuchzeri.html
        Robert Plot’s thigh bone of a biblical giant was probably from a Megalosaurus http://suite101.com/article/megalosaurus-the-first-dinosaur-scientifically-described-a340618

        • TiltedHorizon says:

          “dinosaurs had a higher density than mammals and sank to lower depths during the deluge.”

          LOL. I have not heard that one. It is a poor answer. It does not explain why fossilized T-Rex bones are in the same cretaceous era strata as Pterosaurs which have hollow bones. If density was the cause then these should not be in the same period layers. As far as Tertiary era salamander, LOL. I’m going to be laughing for the rest of the day.

        • Keith says:

          When the deluge came, there were such mighty winds that the fragile pterosaurs were flipped over. The sky was dark and the pterosaurs were confused. They plunged into the ocean in the impression that they were flying higher. Realising they were drowning and in their confusion they panicked and flew ever deeper trying to reach the sky.
          No, that’s not something a creationist believes (as far as I know), it’s something I made up while drinking a cup of tea. I’d say it’s as plausable as either the deluge or the dinosaur floaty/ sinky idea.

    • Len says:

      if science is the study of what things are and how they came to be,creationism is very much scientific. right or wrong?

      Sort of. In as much as you could ask (in the first minute of the first science class of the school year) “Does creationism have any real evidence for its validity?”.

      Answer: “no”.

      “OK, then let’s move on to real science”.

    • A Theist says:

      I don’t know if you are kidding or want to provoke American Christians, but creationism has absolutely nothing to do with science. As far as science goes, creationism is as valid as, say, the scary monster under your bed. It is a fairy tale. It is pure nonsens.

      Let me just add that you can actually be a Christian and still hold that opinion. The Bible i full of allegories, and there ain’t a sane Christian in this world who would take everything in the Bible at face value. If so, then if he was a man he would have poked out his right eye for having looked at other men’s women, as the Bible instructs men to do.

      If you absolutely want to be a Christian (I don’t recommend it), then the story about how the world was created can be seen as each day representing a billion years. The way I see it, there is nothing in the Bible that necessarily contradicts evolution. This however, is irrelevant to atheists, as I am. I am interested in science and the real world. I am not interested in religion.

      • Atsap Revol says:

        “sane Christian” = oxymoron

        Ramen
        AR

  7. Drained and Washed Clean says:

    Seems like Louisiana is at it again. There is over $11,000,000 in taxpayer money that could go to Christian schools teaching creationism instead of evolution (and those are just the ones we know about).

    Here is a link to Zack’s petition to prevent schools teaching creationism from receiving state funds in the form of vouchers…
    http://www.change.org/petitions/the-governor-of-la-halt-the-implementation-of-louisiana-s-creationist-voucher-program

    • Keith says:

      It looks as though the petition is confined to America.

      • Drained and Washed Clean says:

        Well that’s sad… They should be informed that this is internationally protested!

        • Keith says:

          Yes, South Australia does not appear on their state drop down list. I doubt it would have much effect if those who received it knew that many of the protests were from outside of America.

  8. Ducklord says:

    Huh. Here in Sweden we teach evolutionism in science and creationism in religion. The wtf is the problem?

    • TheFewTheProudTheMarinara says:

      For the deeply religious, it’s never enough until everyone believes EXACTLY as they do. Even if it takes force.

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