Fallacy of your satire

Published June 14th, 2010 by Bobby Henderson

Hello, I have purchased and read your book, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and I would just like to share with you a constructive feedback of your book. For its objective purpose of proving the illogicality of the provincial-minded nature of those who stand in opposition to allowing the scientific theory of the Big Bang/Theory of Evolution from being taught publicly, it served its purpose well. However I would like to call to mind the hypocritical nature of the book. I believe consistency with one’s own message is important to achieve a total victory and it satirically charges Christians with creating blind assumptions. I understand the comparison of pirate decrease to global temperature increase was to further the point of the illogicality of religion, but you assumed there was a lesser amount of pirates. In fact there are more pirates now than there was in the 1700′s, the lack of the Pirates of the Caribbean-esque romanticism is the only reason this fact is not widely spread. You made an assumption which went against fact which defeated your principle of factual basis. One may argue that was the continuation of satire but that would be most likely incorrect as the faux-correlation of coincidence is the satire and not the actual analyzes as global temperature is indeed rising since the last minor ice age in the Napoleonic Era.

Furthermore it appears you attack religion as a whole entity as illogical and we’d be better off it was nonexistent as the end of the book turns into repetitive bashing, This is the same mindset as the illogical fundamentalists whom do not hear the logic of scientific theory who completely disregard science as it is alien to their beliefs. Religion is extremely important in its influence in sociology as it combats the modern mainstream schools of thought such as widespread apathy, post-modernism and rampant sensationalism. It teaches values of selflessness and charity opposing the media advocacy of self-service which even in an evolutionary sense is not nature as we are social animals which rely upon societal advancement, not just the advancement of self. Religion plays a large role in academic studies as well, I’m sure you’re aware that one of the theorists of the Big Bang Theory was a Catholic priest. To the (logically) theistic, the belief in God does not interact with evolution or creation as God is a theory pertaining to spiritual well being while evolution pertains to physical creation. Religion (or belief in God) does not isolate one from logic, rather the fallacy assuming that because one is religious they must abandon reason. I think if you had pulled back on the senseless bashing of theists and made it rather a criticism of the solely illogical due to their ignoring of blatant scientific evidence even the Pope would have agreed with you. Book such as the one of your own writing are dangerous as human beings tend to take the extremity of each end, by the extensive mockery of the religious you isolate them while creating a malicious current in atheists against theists, which is academically wrong as scholarly debate should be through procedure of logic but your book goes from such to foolery. Such anti-God contempt creates social hysteria making people, for example, atheistic in assumption of its logic while in fact they have little intelligence to even contemplate the bane of their existence.This correlates with the thesis of The Prince as one should be firm in their own beliefs and adhered to logic but they can also not crush the other side as that creates blatant opposition for the sake of opposition rather than following a conventional and more satisfying procedure of scholarly victory.

I hope your book has accomplished your objective and enlightens the close-minded Kansas Board of Education.

Maroun Shami

 

This is the type of email I like to receive.  I don’t agree with a lot of what Maroun is saying but I have a lot of respect for him voicing his criticism.  –bobby



226 Responses to “Fallacy of your satire”

  1. Timegirl4468 says:

    Well, if I had bothered to finish your letter i’m sure this is what i would have said:
    Well, thanks for the long letter, but we don’t care. We think, write, say and eat what we like, thanks, and nothing you say is going to change that. But thanks anyway.

  2. Insightful Ape says:

    What a load of platitudes.
    First, what is the point of your rant about pirates? It is a JOKE, don’t you get it? It is not peer reviewed science.
    Now, why is it that your “faith” cannot be challenged? Do you feel threatened by a work of satire? Why so insecure? You are pathetic.
    If we only were trying to fight the logical fallacies based on religion, even the pope would agree? That is a patent lie. Even the last pope, in his famous statement on evolution, claimed that creation of humans was unique. That is a baseless, unscientific assertion. Not to mention other claims of catholic church such as their position on birth control.
    In fact, both islam and christianity are based on the concept of “afterlife”. That is as big a lie as your whole rant-contradicted by neuroscience. Mind-body dualism is an illusion, negated decades ago.
    And what is with all the fear mongering, that bad things can happen if people start questioning your dogmas? They did a long time before the FSM in the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark and France, yet the sky didn’t fall. Remember?
    “Such anti-God contempt creates social hysteria making people, for example, atheistic in assumption of its logic while in fact they have little intelligence to even contemplate the bane of their existence.” Now don’t you think that is condescending in the extreme? How can you assume you are sooo much more intelligent than others?
    And if Georges Lemaître was a catholic priest, so what? His scientific work was neither inspired, nor supported, by his church. How convenient to emphasize him and forget about Giordano Bruno, who was burned at the stake for believing in heliocentrism.
    But my favorite quote: “by the extensive mockery of the religious you isolate them while creating a malicious current in atheists against theists”. Again, you forget there is third side to the debate: pastafarianism. Belief in the FSM deserves just as much time as belief in the “traditional” god-since there is no evidence for either.

    RAmen

  3. Silas says:

    this letter definitely falls under “concerned criticism” category. I was reasonably impressed, though kind of bored by, Maroun’s writing. Though I would like to point out that it has been stated that the so called “pirates” today who rob and plunder using machine guns and hi-tech stuff aren’t the pirates that help combat natural disasters and calamities.

    Despite being much more polite than most hate mailers, I think Maroun still doesn’t get the point. It doesn’t really matter if there are some inconsistencies in our Gospel or illogical ideas. Compared to the Bible, these issues are either really small, or they are irrelevant, such as “there’s more pirates today, so your link to pirates and global warming is wrong.” It doesn’t matter. The point is that correlation doesn’t imply causation, which I think is at least pointed out by the original graph in the letter to the Kansas Board of Education. Also, about the comment that we believe that a religious person must abandon all reason, that is utterly false. It’s okay to believe in something that might not have as much proof to be considered 100% (or even .01%, Scientologists), it’s just there’s an issue when you want to teach it as FACT in public schools.

    Pleasantly surprised by the lack of hate here,
    Silas

  4. Insightful Ape says:

    One thing I should add, I respectfully disagree with prophet Bobby in this being the kind of criticism he wishes to see.
    While this piece of hate mail is certainly more level headed than the last one, it is nonetheless a rich mix of lies and half truths, demonstrating the fear religionists have for satire and a deep sense of insecurity, and pursuing the goal of silencing dissent.
    It claims we are “dangerous” while forgetting the biggest danger of all, which is human gullibility and belief in the absence of evidence. This is not just promoted by religion, it is the very nature of religion.
    In a way it can do more harm than our usual ilk of trolls. Presenting the same poison in a reputable package.

  5. person says:

    Maroun (sounds too much like maroon to me, but ok),

    Well, let’s point out something in your argument then. You say that religion inspires people to do great things and be amazing humanitarians. It also inspires them to massacre whole towns and justifies racial intolerance. And we all know how much damage that can do. It kills of whole towns and even cultures. It’s simply a means of control invented in the early stages of our cultures that needs to go. It’s like no longer carrying your security blanket around anymore. It’s a needed stage of life if you want to get anywhere, and it’s all mental. Just to make you feel more secure.

    Also, something any self respecting pastafarian should read even though it is rather theist, it in many ways paradoxically encourages atheism without the use of satire. Even without that it would still be a great short story.
    http://www.thrivenotes.com/lets-help-germinate-this-seed/

  6. Ian says:

    WOW!!! I had NO IDEA “The Architect” from “The Matrix” movies was a Theist! :p

    Seriously tho, I hope Maroun lives in the U.S., We need more intelectual discourse on topics like this, instead of the typical & illogical “I’m Praying for you soul….You’re gonna burn in hell, Fuckwad!!” arguements put forth by your average Christian. My hat’s off to you Sir. I may not agree with you, but you have put forth a well thought out & argued email that uses proper grammer & was far more respectful than the normal religious posts here.

  7. Hollee says:

    I think you missed to disclaimer in the beginning of the book: “While Pastafarianism is the only religion based on empirical evidence, it should also be noticed that this is a faith-based book. Attentive readers (That’s you, Maroun) will note numerous holes and contradictions throughout the text; they will even find blatant lies and exaggerations. *These have been placed there to test the readers faith.*”

    Truly this is defense against any argument anyone could make, and voids the validity of any debate.

    And, like my fellow Pastafarians, I must thank you for a refreshingly well thought out, non-hate filled, literate letter that was actually very pleasant to read. Thank you, very much. May your mug never empty, and your strippers never tire. RAmen.

  8. Pan Narrans says:

    When you say “Furthermore it appears you attack religion as a whole entity as illogical and we’d be better off it was nonexistent” you appear to miss the point entirely. The F.S.M. is not a attack on religion as a whole, it is an attack on dogma.

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