This site is frustrating because these “pastafarians” just use this mock religion to bash on everyone else’s beliefs. there are pieces in the Bible that seem absurd… talking animals, reanimated corpses, the ground opening up and swallowing people, etc. but nothing that takes THIS great a leap in logic. God isn’t a “bearded man on a cloud” He’s the creative force in this universe. hell isn’t a place where you can “chill with friends, but boy is it hot in here”… hell is a place reserved for Satan, and the people who he deceives into following him there. don’t take all this as “shoving my religion down your throat” take it as a clarification of some misunderstandings some pastafarians seem to have about Christianity. the obvious point behind this website is to say “hey you believe in God without proof, well we believe in noodles, and since they already exist, that counts as proof”… well basically, it’s not proof people should look for in spirituality… it’s doctrine. pastafarian doctrine is an obvious farce. the Bible has integrity. where all these other “religious books” fall short, the Bible stands firm. you guys couldn’t even come up with an original name… it had to be ripped off from the Rastafarians… give the Bible a try, an honest try.
Peace and Love for my fellow humans,
Joe
This site is frustrating
Published April 29th, 2010 by Bobby Henderson
Filed under hate-mail (and concerned criticism)
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Do you have any idea how many Bibles it takes to boil a pot of spaghetti?
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Genious!!!! This ought to be a supported sloagan.
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@51
Only one. You open the bible, read any passage at random, and the pot becomes so angry at what it hears that is boils itself
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*51. Only one. Just like the hate mailers who continually quote it, the bible is immensely thick.
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hello, i think that people should believe in any thing they want to. if it works for them, then why not?
its not up to anyone else to judge that they should or shouldnt believe in this.
Lornaa
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But you couldn’t be more wrong. Somethings, no matter how much you believe, are not right. They are incapable of being right, and logical (ie, scientific method, which is not pro-science anti-religion but pro-testing anti-faith) conclusions will ALWAYS find them false. the problem is logic is not taught in religions; it can’t be, for to question the faith would be to undermine the absolute power of the authority in place; it is dogmatic. You cannot question it, because it is above your reason. (“It is also written: Do not put the Lord your God to the test.” Matthew 4:7′) How can we know if we cannot test? If its true, wouldn’t it stand up to the test? We should just accept what we are told?
this BULLSHIT undermines the genius of man. god never told us about gravity, relativity, internal combustion, penicillin, brain surgery, physics, chemistry or even the human anatomy. Man had to work hard to discover these things, often against the will of the church. Religion attempts to lower his nature and make it shameful and undesirable, thus man should embrace the faith because it is the truth. it doesn’t allow man to prove, to himself, the faith is truth. faith, untested and unproven (ie, when i fall backward someone catches me because I’ve done it before) in and of itself, is evil. It’s the easiest way to BE deceived, because you do not question.
It isn’t right to let people live in dream worlds, especially when the actions that come from that belief negatively effect the wellbeing of another human being. And how much more psychologically damaging is it to teach children they will burn in hell forever for their human nature? I’d much rather learn my social lessons through fairytales like Hansel and Gretel or Little Red Riding hood…
Someone has to judge people’s beliefs because beliefs are dangerous. They need to be justified, and its time an authority with a voice on this earth stepped up. beliefs lead to wars, genocide, greed, abuse, murder and suffering. Your damn right they need to be judged!
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Now are we talking King James or New English? Cause I’ve heard it only takes 1 King James to boil 24 oz of spaghetti, but 3 New English.
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Um…probably about 57 KJ New Testament Versions.
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@Joe
Actually, Christianity is based on judaism, just as islam is; they’re not called Abrahamic religions for nothing. From there comes the “invisible man in the sky” idea, not from us. Check genesis.
Hell is not a nice place to spend a vacation, if it exists, but even if that is the case i prefer it to the idea of vicarious sacrifice, let alone the atrocities in the old testament, or the law that Jesus justifies.
Personally i carry my own weight. If i mess up something, is fixed as soon as possible, with compensations for every inconvenience caused, concession that no christian have ever had with me, except if the said christian is part of my family. Otherwise they keep the old idea of stoning people, it’s just that two thirds of them do not use rocks, but blackened words, social and laboral backstabbing, among other such niceties. Not just that, often agnostics are also seen as target practice (Honestly, is this moral?).
This is not a true scotsman fallacy, not a thing that a “true christian would not do” because 19 of 20 do it. Right now you were refraining from doing so with all your might, and only succeded mildly. The bible in fact justifies their actions (as does yours in underestimating us), and every gentle intepretation of it is likely ignoring the ugly passages by some subjective criteria, or twisting them to fit their explanation.
The bible then is not firm, but enables circular logic. Just as every other sacred text do.
The line “shoving my religion down your throat” is a VERY real issue, creationism showing tenfold how much are some christians willing to push their beliefs unto others; not for any kind of “love”, but because of hatred, ignorance, and fear. Everywhere you see “god”, and “design” and “DNA blueprints”; “nostradamus”, just to name a few that move along the media, many times.
Tell me; Aren’t you tired of being afraid, tired of others trying to shove their version of Jesus down your throat too? You should be. If you came from a degree on pollitical analysis, or linguistics, you should know how much they have written on you or me without permission, how much evil they have brought to humanity by proclaiming the unknownable as holy, and themselves as the only experts on that area. Its not about symphaty or representation of any kind, It is a process of wording honed to control the masses, using their fears and emotions to support the most ridiculous claims ever made. “Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war…”
-Just as much as the one that claims to be holy (Ted Haggard for example). –
I’ve read the bible a couple of times, honestly and wholeheartedly, the same as most of my books, as i’ve allways found wisdom in them. When you see it as an epic poem, both old and new testament, and take in consideration the production context, you can see literary value, maybe anthropological value; but nothing more. If you would like to believe in a benevolent deity, good for you; but remember, hate mail section is filled up with many people that tried desperately to equal that belief with ultimate goodness, and ironically, were evil at doing so; by the way they did it. (If this website frustrates you, then your path of enlightment may need reexamination)
At least rastafarians, with every flaw they had, were peaceful people, and yes, this is a satire; yet it has earned its own identity, one of freedom, and goodwill towards humanity. Religion should emulate part of it, and do it right away; before someone pushes the red button, you know…
I’d like people to actually read at least the open letter, put careful thought on it for a period of time, let’s say 24 hours or so; consider if they would like biologists explaining abiogenesis in their church, then come here to tell us why should their religion (among all others) should be taught in school classrooms; and how “offended” they feel about the site. That would be a nice change.
However, if they did it, hate mail section would not be necessary, as it would be more along the lines of civilized discussion.
Peace of mind to you all (including Joe); and please forgive my poor use of english.
X.
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ok look, if you believe in a religion, then thats your thing. dont come over to other people who have other beliefs and critisize them. i read that we havent found and actual proof of the FSM existince, but have you found any ACTUAL proof that YOUR god exists? other than a few books and paintings? the FSM has all the right to exist just as your god does. all i want to say is, let people believe in what they want, and you stick to your own religion.
best wishes to all,
Kc
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I’d give them a C+ on this, just because Joe didn’t seem to be a total asshole, and therefore may not be a total hypocrite, but he didn’t make a very good case for the reason for his frustration. If the site is frustrating…go away OR think hard and see if you can figure out what the Pastafarians are actually saying regarding “religion”. I promise your head WILL NOT explode if you use it to question “everything you ever believed in”. May you be enlightened by his Noodley Appendages.
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I love this site…haven’t been here in so long…
Honey…sorry about your religion…but if you believe in something…we shouldn’t be offending you with our comments…we know all that stuff you are saying…we just don’t think they are true…
Besides…what is a devoted christian doing in an atheist site?
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@ all hate-mailers
Simply assuming based on your own ideas of what this site is about does not make it true. If you read the about section you would realize this. So please, please don’t assume that whatever you precieved notions of this site are what this site is about, it’s not.
RAmen
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well it really depends on how many of the bibles are on fire..
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I usually try to respond to hate-mailers with some reason and apathy, but I’ve changed my mind with this one. Here it goes:
Fuck you, Joe. We’re sure that what we believe is right, just like you’re certain that you’re right. We have as much of a right as anyone else to our opinions. So piss off with the “holier than thou” attitude.
Fuck doctrine. That’s the shit that forbids priests from having sex, making them into pedophiles.
Fuck god and his creative force. That’s just made up bull-shit.
Fuck satan, and fuck hell. Try and scare me with something this side of the grave.
Fuck the bible, Joe; I’ve read it, and it’s total shit.
If you can believe in a made-up holy book and a sky-daddy, then you can believe in anything. Try believing in the FSM, then leave us the fuck alone.
-Josh Rrr
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This isn’t about noodles, it’s about science! Don’t you get it? Didn’t you read the open letter to the Kansas School Board? It’s about stopping misinterpretation of scientific theory to suit oneself. If you truly want to teach “Intelligent Design” as a science and not as a philosophical point, then use a scientific method. If you want to start out with the hypothesis that there is intelligence to the universe and site order in the universe as proof…then I would ask the scientific community what can be determined about this intelligence looking ONLY at the universe itself. Ignore bias! Ignore religious texts…ESPECIALLY THE BIBLE!
How many people supporting Intelligent Design have bleated a need for teachers and staff to get right with God or Jesus? How many people have denounced Evolution because they do not understand what a scientific theory really is? This isn’t about denouncing religion…it’s about unmasking a religion hiding under the guise of a science!
What do you think would happen if the scientific community said this: “Using scientific method while ignoring all preexisting notions of religion, we have identified the following about the Intelligence of the Universe…” I could only imagine the chaos and fervor. Biased counterpoints by religious “scientists” and protests for all!
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Joe, when you say “it’s not proof people should look for in spirituality… it’s doctrine. “, are you saying “Facts be damned. What we want is a good show – parades with costumes and incense and icons” and/or “We want platitudes like God loves you, even if you don’t know it that were created to sound so nice”?
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When I first came to this site, it directed me to a letter written to a school. I still think that, like people do, pastafarians search for truth. The question is what belongs in rational, academic discourse. Science never affords absolute certainty, but certainly the truths science affords us usefully true. Observation and rationalization about relationships between physical entities leads to a deeper understanding of the universe and lends itself to the betterment of mankind. That is why we do science, and it has little to do with cosmic truth. When I formulate a theory, I fashion it out of the facts I can find using tools from logic, and then the theory becomes a tool: if it works to predict future phenomena then it is a good tool. But even if it is a good tool, that doesn’t indicate that it is absolutely true. On a uselessly philosophical level, very little can be considered absolutely true and known.
The point is, in academia, in the realm of purely rational, we deal in the usefully true, and there really isn’t a place for the absolutely true. It doesn’t fit in the conversation. Arguments based on faith may be valid, faith may be valid, but it is not valid in the universe of logical discourse. Necessarily so, as the FSM points out, since there is no way to logically validate one faith over another. That’s the point. That’s the whole point. It’s not that Christianity is wrong, or that all faith is wrong, only that faith is wrong in the context of rational discourse.
Maybe you choose to live a purely rational life. In that case, you would have to abandon your faith, along with all kinds of other things that make you human. I don’t believe that everyone on this site believes that you should eradicate everything that cannot be rationalized. Art would be gone, and love, and all kinds of human things. There may be chemical reasons for all the acceptable madnesses like love and faith and ambition, but I believe that at some point human experience transcends equations. So look for truth along with everyone else, accept what you are convinced of, even if you can’t necessarily rationalize it. But at least in schools, at least in the realm of logical discourse, allow that these things don’t belong. That doesn’t mean they belong no where.
I know that not everything I believe is rational, but obviously I still believe those things to be true. That’s OK. As long as I don’t try to make those beliefs into something they aren’t, can’t be, and were never meant to be: universal axioms. No one has ever been argued into being a Christian; that’s a contradiction to faith. Teach the usefully true in school, let everyone search for absolutes on their own. This is what truly gives faith a chance.
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Thank (Madam, I assume?) Sosostris for quite possibly redeeming MY faith – in internet commentary. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head when it comes to religious tolerance, and the purpose of FSM: to help maintain the balance between personal belief and public education. It would be all to easy to fall into one extremism or another; there are people with closed minds among both the religious and atheistic communities. FSM isn’t (or at least shouldn’t be) about telling the religious that they’re wrong. This is not only a losing battle, but one completely contrary to the purpose of the original open letter to the Kansas School Board. That was about keeping the classroom the aforementioned realm of rational discourse, keeping the unproven and unprovable in the personal.
Humans are social creatures, and the temptation to try to bring others over to your own point of view is an unavoidable and often laudable instinct, yet it has obvious downsides. Despite the social connectivity of our age and the growth of forums for debate like the internet, the simple fact is that not everyone will come to the same conclusions about some matters that are very important to them. Questions about faith and purpose are complicated and different for everyone, and so are the answers we come up with. Proving these personal convictions logically is both impossible and irrelevant, they are a part of you. As Sosostris has shown, there is nothing wrong with this. The trick is recognizing what beliefs can be commonly accepted, and for that we turn to something which can be shared and understood: reason.
FSM, when simply used as a means to mock the beliefs of others, is indeed crude and ‘frustrating’. But it works much better as a means of pointing out the ridiculousness of imposing private beliefs on a public system. It’s clever and playful way of approaching debate, one that I wish was more widely used; trying to get people to laugh and think rather than just shout them down.
Best of luck to everyone on their own absolutes.
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Seriously, I have nothing against all of you, except for the writer. The pastafarians have the right to believe what they want, I am personally a Laveyan satanist, and no, I know I’m not going to hell, whether you like it or not.
As I read, “Religion … appears to act as a social control mechanism, very similar to sociology,
psychiatry and psychology, which appear to be the new religions to
control people. The average species only lasts something like five
million years. So religion and God as the religious refers to some human
construct which has become …an ideology, will die in the next few
million years.” (Nemesis 2009, http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?showtopic=30572).
So, no, the pastafarians is not a false religion, no religion is false, everyone have a natural right to believe what they want, and you could not discriminate that.
What if we were to say that religions such as Christianity is wrong, because Jesus is actually a copied version of Horus! (check Zeitgesit Part 1, Religion, the greatest…) [It's on Youtube]
And also, Christian creationism is not one of the first, there’s Norse, Greek, Egyptian and also Hindu, so, are you saying that theirs is wrong? Seriously?
Belief is not and can not and should not be forced, it’s a choice, just like I like apples, you like oranges, you give me apples, I still prefer oranges.
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WOW! Someone who doesn’t miss the point! (Although, you do fall short a couple times, what with our name being unoriginal and all, but still, wow.)
RAmen
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This site is frustrating because it makes you face the the weaknesses in your own belief. It’s frustrating to have to defend indefensible beliefs, isn’t it Joe?
There are people who we so certain of there beliefs they poisoned themselves to ride Comets or leave with cult leaders, or blow themselves up to be rewarded with virgin maidens (wonder how that works out for the female suicide bombers?) Widows throw themselves on burning pyres (Most get assistance from the righteous present at the funeral). Point is, all these people are CERTAIN of the truth of their belief, so obviously certainty is of little value in finding truth. I know people who are CERTAIN of political truths, medical ones, beliefs about their spouses. No amount of evidence to the contrary persuades them. So some poor certain soul keeps getting beaten while her husband cheats. “He loves me, he doesn’t mean it -he’d never cheat”.
When you challenge these people with facts they get really uncomfortable, even “frustrated”. It’s OK Joe. When you’re ready, you may let go of your preconceptions and look for the truth too.
As for integrity – Have you read the Koran, the Mahabharata, The Origin of the Species, The Tao te Ching, the Tibetan book of the Dead, the Complete Calvin and Hobbes? I have, with an open mind. The Koran and the Bible tied for dead last in integrity to my eyes, and I started this journey with your same biases.
Frustration is a sign you are trying to assimilate conflicting information or trying to accomplish a task with the wrong methods or tools. As long as you will not change what you are doing or believing you will remain frustrated. As long as you are fearful you will not change. It’s your choice.
RAmen
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@62. Why so angry?
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@51 as everyone says, you will only need one but remember it takes a long times.
The bible is a nasty book to burn it’s as nasty as it’s readers (except for the jonas brothers, man i’m shallow haha)
xox hannah
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So… sentences now don’t start with capital letters and bible does?
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@68 See Jee Dunham and Ahmed the Dead Terrorist: Nobody said all the virgins are women. What if these suicide bombers find out the virgins are all men?
But actually, all suicide bombers are transformed in rotten meatballs that are destined to sacred pigs’ food. I know because the pasta alfredo told me during my siesta.
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You think that the Bible has integrity? Have you read the Bible? In what sense is the Bible any more plausible than the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I would rather worship a god composed of noodles, than one who authorises genocide.
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“Obvious farce.” Cleary did not bother to read the Open Letter.
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You left out all the genocide, rape, murder, greed, and incest in the stories in the Bible. Forget the supernatural stuff gods do that kind of thing. There was a saying I heard once,
Worry about the beam in your own eye before trying to extract the splinter from the eye of thy neighbor. I think this is apt here.
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@ Joe
We dont bash other’s beliefs untill they try to ram them down our throats…
The Bible claims that god created us in his image… hence the theory of a bearded bloke on a cloud and also from standard christian imagery like the Cistine Chapel…
I will however agree that there is a lot of “pieces in the Bible that seem absurd…” well this is a book that you base your faith on, are you sure that a book that has, by your own admission “pieces ……. that seem absurd…” is the best thing to base a faith on?
many of the people on this site have read the bible, that is why we find it hard to swallow, we follow our own god and ask that if you want to follow your’s go ahead… just dont teach our kids it and call it science!
From Trev!
Ra-men!
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well Joe, i find it frustrating how you and other haters miss the whole point. this is about our education system, it is about not teaching things that are not fact, things that cannot be proven. this religion is just as provable as yours and it sounds like you would be not happy if your kids came home from school telling you a bowl of Spaghetti created the Universe. well i feel the same way. and your excuse that you have a “respectable scripture” well i have to say there are a lot of 2 things in the bible a lot of drinking and a lot of shit thats hard to believe. so just like when one of my Frat buddies wakes up from a drunken stupor claiming the dishwasher told him he was pregnant, im not going to believe in drunken stories from 2000 years ago either. you know there are a lot of religions with scripture that goes back centuries and centuries, and that doesnt make them any more or less true than yours.
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maybe next time i go to a house party, i will make a game of writing a scripture for our religion, in the way of Classic Christian spirit. but you can only add to the scripture the holy FSM only if you have had enough alcohol for the FSM has appeared to you, that way you have the holy inspiration for a true holy writing experience.
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Satan didn’t decieve people into following him into hell according to people like you, god sent them there because of what they did/believed. Now stop damning people who don’t comform directly to your specific beliefs and do something to actualy help the world.
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I tried the Bible once. It didn’t taste that good. A bit dry.
Maybe it was all the ‘logic’, which I imagine to be rather like MSG. In any case, it could have done with a bit of sauce.
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wow why do ppl get so afended about this. you people need to give it a break. who cares if what we belive heck if i became a priest and said god told me that every one must give me there money so i can live better would you belive it? no you wouldnt. just because some one says it doesnt mean its true. i need proff that god exists im srry but thats just the way it is. if hes so powerful and perfect y doesnt he just come down here and tell the world hes real. just doesnt make sence and if that would be a bad idea then y not me. y doesnt he come down and tell me heack if that did happen ill run around yelling god is real but intill then god is a bunch of guys sitting around a table saying hey dude lets make a god…. btw idk anything about the bible so how u know god isnt a girl and just men cant except the fact that girls were made first
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The human brain evolved a spirited sense of humor, which apparently had a survival value.
Personally I don’t think it’s the spaghetti monster that is the source of creation, it’s the interaction of the water and pasta together. Each separately would be incomplete. And I’m willing to passionately debate the issue.
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Congratulations on making the most ironic ending statement on the site. What is it about FSMism that riles up a group of followers whose lord said ‘he who cast the first stone’ blah blah? It’s so backwards.
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The FSM has a sense of humour, the bible does not. I think i will stick with Pastafarianism thanks
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One of the scarier things about the hate mail to me is that most of the writers are so quick to lash out against someone without even the most cursory exploration of who their lashing out against. It takes all of about 42 seconds to Google the FSM, and read the Wikipedia page, to figure out the source and the intent of the Church. Alot of the Hate Mailers just seem to have a really severe nervous itch to hate someone, and don’t want to be bothered with the truth.
That seeming inability of some people does beg one disturbing question with me. If some of those hate-mailers fail to see the satire, what about the possibility of other folks who also fail to see the FSM for what it really is, and start to believe in it, hook, line, and sinker. Could a couple of hundred years from now see a Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on every street corner? Could a future self-serving person write a FSM “New Testament” to bring in more parishioners? Could future FSM zealots blow up other cultures’ restaurants because they offend the sensibilities of pasta? Could Judaism have started out as a parody religion, and after a few generations been morphed into what it is by people who forgot the joke? I mean, have you really read through Genesis?
Sorry if I don’t give some people much credit, but human nature and history can be frightening.
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I found this website today and I thought the exact same thing– give it a couple hundred years and the cofsm will be all the rage. Ohhh the sweet irony.
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Well said, Lex. Very well said. I applaud your insight :)
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Joe, if you and your fellow Christians really stood for peace and Love for your fellow humans, maybe there wouldn’t be a need for this site. Unfortunately you don’t.
Your bible is an incredible muddle of ideas, most of which you quietly ignore. Again, that wouldn’t matter, except that from time to time someone finds a verse in there that suits their prejudices and runs with it.
The result has been:
Young women being burned to death as witches. Almost a cliché, but can you imagine how utterly horrible those scenes must have been?
Men being imprisoned or killed because they happened to be born with a different sexual orientation.
A Christian cult that mocks the funerals of US soldiers because your God is supposedly hot under the collar about homosexuality.
Another Christian cult that seeks the second coming of Christ via a nuclear war.
Yet another (rather large) Christian cult that preaches extreme sexual purity, to the extent that it is better that people die of AIDS rather than use condoms – yet has regularly covered up the fact that its priests were abusing the kids that went to its churches.
A number of vicious crusades that crossed Europe and the Middle East bringing rape, death and suffering to people of all religion and none. The latest was lead by that great US Christian leader, George W Bush!
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Oh wow this kid thinks the Bible has “integrity” and “stands firm” against other religious books like the Quran or the Torah. Goddamn comic books have more consistency than the Bible.
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If you were to read the other hate mail from christian idiocy on this website you would see that many people have conflicting beliefs on why we are wrong and you are right. But all Pastafarians agree that your are idiots, so that makes us the organized religion, right?
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Did Joe say that the bible has integrity???
No no, a bible proposes a hypothesis to a question, but is not even a hypothesis because it cannot be tested so I’m not sure what to call it. A theory on the other hand, well that is another thing.. theory, is not in the bible, nor is it in religion because a theory can be observed, tested, retested, revised (bible can too so I hear), and in every way beat about by other well educated persons to prove it wrong, yet it stands. No, the bible has no integrity at all really.
I go to school in Orem, Utah. Orem, dear friends, is next to Provo, which happens to be the city that houses Brigham Young University. Brigham Young is a mormon prophet polygamist from back in the day who couldn’t remember the names of his children because he had too many, and perhaps my own thought is that the tithing (10% of your income before taxes!!!) of the fellow mormons paid for his excessive child birthing and wivery, but that is just a guess. On campus at Brigham’s university you cannot have a beard without a license, nor can members of the opposite sex be in your apartment after 10:00 p.m. and you can get kicked out for having sex, drinking a beer, touching your noodly appendage or pasta bowl, and a litany of other fine things. Anyway, my college is also filled with lots of mormons (say around 85%), most who didn’t get into BYU, and if you don’t know who they are consider changing your life with a quick google search. It will blow your mind.. Anyway, my point is that I can go to school with them no problem even though I’m not a follower and in fact disagree with them every time I hear them talk about anything relating to religion, philosophy, science, history, or politics… but here’s the deal and my response to Joe.. believe all you want, just keep your damn religion out of my education! And keep it out of schoolbooks for youngsters and out of the classroom! Its hard to find good teachers, but the curriculum should be relatively easy.. there’s a whole lot of awesome stuff out there and people dig hearing about it and its not in the Bible!!
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I would prefer to be an atheist than any of the religions that people like you would join in, Joe. I have been attacked and criticized all my life by people like you just because I don’t have an “organized religion” to go to on whatever holy day they pick. Sorry if I don’t think some guy I don’t know can teach me anything about a God he doesn’t know. I may not be atheist like some of my brothers and sisters but I would rather side with them than you. I have read your bible and studied the teachings of your Christ and nowhere did he say “Condemn people for having an open mind or kill people for not believing in me.” Actually he stated that public displays of righteousness should never be done. Mathew 6:1 – 8 will tell you a lot about why I get so upset when Christians try to preach to me. I have never seen one do it without acting self-righteous and patting themselves on the back of their friends when they did it. Most just verbally (and occasionally physically) attack me. So I say damn to all that would try to convert me for I will in return try to convert them to follow the teachings of my God the FSM. I now have found the perfect church for my beliefs. The great Captains do not question my faith or legitimacy on this planet because of a book. They just try teach those that ask to learn or those that attack us to live as they think they should without trying to force their beliefs down the throat of others. We do not go to your churches and condemn you or try to convert you so please get the fuck away from ours.
To my brethren:
Sorry if I seem not so Jolly as a good Pirate should be and I normally am. I ran out of rum. If you can please send your fastest pirate ship with a good amount for me to stock up on I would greatly reward you with many wenches and treasures taken from the Queens ship that I just commande….ehem…..I mean that unmanned fishing boat that I found abandoned.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Tiffeny
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“the Bible has integrity. where all these other “religious books” fall short, the Bible stands firm.” ummmm, have you actually read AND understood the bible??? What a poorly written, contradicting, boring, and totaly unbelieveable piece of fiction lacking any consistnecy or outside independant sources confirming its outlandish references. It’s monumental failiurer is exemplified by the sheeple that heed the word of some 2,000 yr old sheep hearders without question or regard for science and knowlege. And when asked if stoning someone to death is a suitable punishment for lying to ones parrents (as prescribes in the holly book) the only answer is “of course not, you can’t take THAT passage litterally”….what a load of bull….if you really beleive in that crap, then i have these really cool pair of sandals that jeasus himself wore the day he was crusified!
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I feel a bit insulted. You think our Holiness is just a bowl of noodles? “believe in noodles”. I can tell you that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a bowl of noodles. I might as well say the Christian God is just an old man. I would hope that before you start condemning my religion you would research it and understand it. After all, where would we be if we didn’t completely understand the beliefs and ideas we follow. We might as well be sacking cities and starting wars… oh wait…
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The fact that you believe that your god is not a ‘”bearded man on a cloud”‘ but is rather ‘a creative force in the universe’ is purely your interpretation of your religion. Our religion on the other hand has a more literal representative ‘force,’ and it is our choice to believe in him, no matter how ridiculous it may seem. In fact, it’s not that different from any other *ahem* religions.
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Re: Hell is reserved for Satan.
There isn’t even a scriptural basis for that statement. In fact if you read the Bible, Hell is the last place you would expect to find Lucifer. The concept of Hell is NT. It doesn’t exist in Judaism, and it probably came into Christianity via the Big Fat Greek religion (Hades to be specific)
So if you’re going to be all self righteous about Christianity, learn something about it from the Bible itself – not from South Park or (I doubt if you’ve read it though) Dante’s Inferno, which has the first references to Satan in Hell.
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He boiled for your sins. More beer and strippers please.
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