Comments on: I understand your weak attempt http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:55:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Logan http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-936746 Logan Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:14:19 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-936746 Dan. I understand your weak attempt to deffend your religion. However you overlooked something. You accused our religion of being weak, but it HAS been acknowledged that our god has bigger balls then yours. Dan. I understand your weak attempt to deffend your religion. However you overlooked something. You accused our religion of being weak, but it HAS been acknowledged that our god has bigger balls then yours.

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]]> By: Ian http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-921064 Ian Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:07:40 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-921064 It is a sad day when we of different faiths can't stand together and be joyful in our beliefs. The FSM created EVEYONE including non believers. They too will one day feel the overwhelming realisation when touched by his loving noodly appendage. May his balls shine before you and his ragu fill your mouth. It is a sad day when we of different faiths can’t stand together and be joyful in our beliefs. The FSM created EVEYONE including non believers. They too will one day feel the overwhelming realisation when touched by his loving noodly appendage. May his balls shine before you and his ragu fill your mouth.

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]]> By: plumberbob http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-920781 plumberbob Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:06:50 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-920781 @ 152 - JF -, There is not one shred of proof for the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster; there is equally no evidence for the existence of any other deity. The evidence which we are seeking conforms to the rules of evidence used in the scientific method as to demonstrability, repeatability, testability, and others. All deities, to be proven to exist must conform to the same rules of provability. Perhaps if you were smart enough to read and follow the directions that were clearly given to you when you entered our site, you would have had your questions answered. After reading the Open Letter and the “About” tab material, you could have learned: 1) Our mission is the exclusion of religious mythology from the science curricula of public schools. 2) Our theology is a satire that neither depends on, nor is derivative of any other religion. 3) We insist that any school board that includes any religious mythology in their science curricula, must also include ours. The attached talk by Dr Andy Thomson tells us how our needs as helpless infants uses the same parts of the brain as our thoughts about the mythology of religion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg The fears and terrors of the unknown are powerful drivers in our need for superstition. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them -- Thomas Jefferson RAmen @ 152 – JF -,

There is not one shred of proof for the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster; there is equally no evidence for the existence of any other deity. The evidence which we are seeking conforms to the rules of evidence used in the scientific method as to demonstrability, repeatability, testability, and others. All deities, to be proven to exist must conform to the same rules of provability.

Perhaps if you were smart enough to read and follow the directions that were clearly given to you when you entered our site, you would have had your questions answered. After reading the Open Letter and the “About” tab material, you could have learned:

1) Our mission is the exclusion of religious mythology from the science curricula of public schools.

2) Our theology is a satire that neither depends on, nor is derivative of any other religion.

3) We insist that any school board that includes any religious mythology in their science curricula, must also include ours.

The attached talk by Dr Andy Thomson tells us how our needs as helpless infants uses the same parts of the brain as our thoughts about the mythology of religion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg

The fears and terrors of the unknown are powerful drivers in our need for superstition.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them
– Thomas Jefferson

RAmen

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]]> By: Pastafarian Leo http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-920674 Pastafarian Leo Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:57:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-920674 @ JF (152) "Ok, Jesus is mentioned 25 times in the Quran. He is there as a prophet. There are 2 world wide religions that have Jesus in their books. That proves that he is at least real. Or was real" My fucking god!! (It is just an expression, I am not talking about His noodliness!) You have proved the historicity of Jebus with another holy book, the Quran! Why didn't people ever think about that marvelous argument? So the same argument counts for Harry Potter, because he is in a lot of books, not only two but seven!!! When will you people realize that Jebus is a fictional character like Achilles, Moses, Jehova or Hermione Granger? May the sauce be with you! Ramen Pastafarian Leo

@ JF (152)

“Ok, Jesus is mentioned 25 times in the Quran. He is there as a prophet. There are 2 world wide religions that have Jesus in their books. That proves that he is at least real. Or was real”

My fucking god!! (It is just an expression, I am not talking about His noodliness!)
You have proved the historicity of Jebus with another holy book, the Quran!
Why didn’t people ever think about that marvelous argument?
So the same argument counts for Harry Potter, because he is in a lot of books, not only two but seven!!!
When will you people realize that Jebus is a fictional character like Achilles, Moses, Jehova or Hermione Granger?
May the sauce be with you!

Ramen

Pastafarian Leo

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]]> By: gordon_uk http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-920412 gordon_uk Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:42:31 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-920412 To JF - 152 Harry Potter is in a lot more books then Jesus, does that make him real? PS we are not going up to Christians or Muslims telling them they are wrong they are telling us we are wrong take the original concerned criticism from Il Pavarello. G

To JF – 152

Harry Potter is in a lot more books then Jesus, does that make him real?

PS we are not going up to Christians or Muslims telling them they are wrong they are telling us we are wrong take the original concerned criticism from Il Pavarello.

G

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]]> By: Bazilisk http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-919069 Bazilisk Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:56:01 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-919069 my bro once wrote on a cd nuke, but it was just a cd oh sorry, the bible is magical, and everything that is written there, is true because christian ppl says it is based on god sooo.... everything that god tells you cannot be said in another way... so the bible, being holy, even if was written by mere humans, only tells the true i dont think he understand this, because is not a weak attempt, is a parody, and the best of it, if this could have been done at thousands of years ago, easily this could be so powerfull or more that your religion, but i love this is done on this age, because being the world more conected and not full of stupid people, blood will not be drawn, nor money stolen or asked, as the holy FSM says my bro once wrote on a cd nuke, but it was just a cd

oh sorry, the bible is magical, and everything that is written there, is true
because christian ppl says it is based on god

sooo…. everything that god tells you cannot be said in another way… so the bible, being holy, even if was written by mere humans, only tells the true

i dont think he understand this, because is not a weak attempt, is a parody, and the best of it, if this could have been done at thousands of years ago, easily this could be so powerfull or more that your religion, but i love this is done on this age, because being the world more conected and not full of stupid people, blood will not be drawn, nor money stolen or asked, as the holy FSM says

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]]> By: Jesso http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-918781 Jesso Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:17:55 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-918781 152 - JF I am an anti-theist dear. I don't believe that there is any god, and I think the world would be better off without religion. The Qu'ran is just as made up as the bible. I do not consider ancient religious texts to be proof of anything. I look at actual documentation, and there is none in Roman records... Except for this dude Simon who has an oddly similar story to Jesus, but he IS in Roman records. Hmm... Interesting. Why would I find one imaginary friend less silly than another (that is the same, but not). I have not attacked anyone for their beliefs in god. I have asked for proof. She has offered none. Asking for proof is not offensive. If it is, then the world is in deep trouble. I don't go to Christian websites and tell them how silly they are for believing in an imaginary friend (unlike all the "Christians" here); just as I wouldn't walk into a mosque to say the same thing. However, when religious people (whatever their religion) come here, I will defend my beliefs.

152 – JF

I am an anti-theist dear. I don’t believe that there is any god, and I think the world would be better off without religion. The Qu’ran is just as made up as the bible. I do not consider ancient religious texts to be proof of anything. I look at actual documentation, and there is none in Roman records… Except for this dude Simon who has an oddly similar story to Jesus, but he IS in Roman records. Hmm… Interesting. Why would I find one imaginary friend less silly than another (that is the same, but not).

I have not attacked anyone for their beliefs in god. I have asked for proof. She has offered none. Asking for proof is not offensive. If it is, then the world is in deep trouble. I don’t go to Christian websites and tell them how silly they are for believing in an imaginary friend (unlike all the “Christians” here); just as I wouldn’t walk into a mosque to say the same thing. However, when religious people (whatever their religion) come here, I will defend my beliefs.

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]]> By: Insightful Ape http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-918579 Insightful Ape Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:40:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-918579 JF 152: eh, what? Are you claiming that Jesus existed because the Koran says so? The Koran also says that "the sky is about to fall" because of the heresey of the claim that god had a son. Does that make the whole story of immaculate conception bunk? Further, it says that Jesus was never crucified but judas was crucified in his place. So we can get rid if the whole "passion" thing, do you agree? Apart from that the Koran also says that Solomon spoke to ants and birds. Are you claiming there is any credibility to that book? JF 152: eh, what? Are you claiming that Jesus existed because the Koran says so?
The Koran also says that “the sky is about to fall” because of the heresey of the claim that god had a son. Does that make the whole story of immaculate conception bunk? Further, it says that Jesus was never crucified but judas was crucified in his place. So we can get rid if the whole “passion” thing, do you agree?
Apart from that the Koran also says that Solomon spoke to ants and birds. Are you claiming there is any credibility to that book?

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]]> By: BK http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-918555 BK Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:52:57 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-918555 Yes indeed, the Bible says that faith can move mountains! ... Yet I haven't seen anyone move a mountain. Or cause a tree to whither by bitching at it. Or curse children so that bears run out of the woods and maul them. If a few of these Bible stories could actually be done by anyone living in modern society without the use of technology, maybe they'd be more believable.

Yes indeed, the Bible says that faith can move mountains!

…

Yet I haven’t seen anyone move a mountain. Or cause a tree to whither by bitching at it. Or curse children so that bears run out of the woods and maul them. If a few of these Bible stories could actually be done by anyone living in modern society without the use of technology, maybe they’d be more believable.

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]]> By: Herr Chops http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-916319 Herr Chops Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:11:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-916319 Did you read back the words that you secreted into that ridiculous, contradictory utterly preposterous message? "You are allowed to make your decision either way" - Well, how gracious of you to allow people the freedom of choosing where to direct their faith and beliefs. Hang on what's that? "Your doubt does not negate nor prevent his existence" So as long as everyone comes to the beliefs that you determine are the right ones, we can all go about our business, share a few beers, have a few laughs. I lay forth the following proclamation, which is as reliable as a fucking swiss watch. You are completely insane and not in a healthy way.

Did you read back the words that you secreted into that ridiculous, contradictory utterly preposterous message?
“You are allowed to make your decision either way” –
Well, how gracious of you to allow people the freedom of choosing where to direct their faith and beliefs. Hang on what’s that?
“Your doubt does not negate nor prevent his existence”
So as long as everyone comes to the beliefs that you determine are the right ones, we can all go about our business, share a few beers, have a few laughs.
I lay forth the following proclamation, which is as reliable as a fucking swiss watch.
You are completely insane and not in a healthy way.

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]]> By: JF http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-915697 JF Sat, 23 Jan 2010 05:21:35 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-915697 116 - Jesso who made the spagetti monster then???? JESUS! GOD DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! – Prove it. Any of it. Let’s start with proving Jesus ever walked this earth. Good luck with that. ~Ok, Jesus is mentioned 25 times in the Quran. He is there as a prophet. There are 2 world wide religions that have Jesus in their books. That proves that he is at least real. Or was real. You will attack a christian on his belifs, but will you walk up to a muslim and tell him the Quran is wrong? It mentions Jesus and tells about his parents being mary and joesph. Oh course I will get attacked for proper grammer and spelling so leave that out :) Surah 2. 87. We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! 136. Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)." 253. Those apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah Fulfilleth His plan. Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: Jybo http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-913407 Jybo Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:01:19 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-913407 @ Cookie : My freind, your sheer inability to grasp the basic point of The Church of the FSM, combined with your clear difficulty in both constructing an arguement, and expressing it without desecrating the english language, at first served to puzzle me. I still struggle to believe that you can possibly be, as they say "for real" , but, provided that you genuinly take yourself seriously, you need help, help provided by some with REAL qualifications, I ask you for your own sake not to interpret my advise as direction to seek help from a spirit healer, or similar egocentic lunatic. - Jybo

@ Cookie :
My freind, your sheer inability to grasp the basic point of The Church of the FSM, combined with your clear difficulty in both constructing an arguement, and expressing it without desecrating the english language, at first served to puzzle me. I still struggle to believe that you can possibly be, as they say “for real” , but, provided that you genuinly take yourself seriously, you need help, help provided by some with REAL qualifications, I ask you for your own sake not to interpret my advise as direction to seek help from a spirit healer, or similar egocentic lunatic.

- Jybo

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]]> By: theFewtheProudtheMarinara http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-913234 theFewtheProudtheMarinara Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:02:09 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-913234 Prayer avails much? They did a study where it turns out praying had no effect. However, I feel it had two: 1. It made those praying more accepting of whatever happened to them. 2. The time wasted praying prevented them from taking action of actually bringing about the results they wanted. Prayer avails much? They did a study where it turns out praying had no effect. However, I feel it had two: 1. It made those praying more accepting of whatever happened to them. 2. The time wasted praying prevented them from taking action of actually bringing about the results they wanted.

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]]> By: Linden http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-913167 Linden Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:39:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-913167 Il Pavarello? Unless this is your real name (which I pray to FSM that it isn't) perhaps you mean 'il povorello', a term for st. francis of assissi? Il Pavarello? Unless this is your real name (which I pray to FSM that it isn’t) perhaps you mean ‘il povorello’, a term for st. francis of assissi?

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]]> By: Veronica http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-912875 Veronica Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:08:10 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-912875 * Linguine I HATE when I'm trying to be a smart ass and I misspell something! ARGH! * Linguine

I HATE when I’m trying to be a smart ass and I misspell something! ARGH!

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]]> By: Veronica http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-912874 Veronica Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:06:08 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-912874 Il Pavarello, I understand your weak, (though not at all humorous) attempt to draw a parallel between your alleged God and the true Creator, heretoforth referred to as FSM. Fortunately, your doubt does not negate nor prevent His noodly existence. There is a Rachel Ray "30 meals in 30 minutes" verse which states that the fervent stirring of a righteous meat sauce (one who has chosen to believe in noodliness and accept eternal carbohydrates) avails much. Since you evidently do not believe in the FSM you should have no issue with my prayer for you. Perhaps His Noodliness will see that it will require a ‘hitting bottom’ before your mind, soul and stomach, is open to the possibility and awareness that eternity without this FSM, whom is sauce, will be an horrible reality. You are allowed to make your decision either way, but I’m hoping your ears & eyes will be opened to the realization that this 3-dimensional physical apparent reality is so much less than that of the realm of the Cheesy Garlic Sauce. May He be exalted in you, also, and may you find Linguni. Il Pavarello, expect the unexpected. -Veronica Il Pavarello, I understand your weak, (though not at all humorous) attempt to draw a parallel between your alleged God and the true Creator, heretoforth referred to as FSM. Fortunately, your doubt does not negate nor prevent His noodly existence.

There is a Rachel Ray “30 meals in 30 minutes” verse which states that the fervent stirring of a righteous meat sauce (one who has chosen to believe in noodliness and accept eternal carbohydrates) avails much.

Since you evidently do not believe in the FSM you should have no issue with my prayer for you.

Perhaps His Noodliness will see that it will require a ‘hitting bottom’ before your mind, soul and stomach, is open to the possibility and awareness that eternity without this FSM, whom is sauce, will be an horrible reality.

You are allowed to make your decision either way, but I’m hoping your ears & eyes will be opened to the realization that this 3-dimensional physical apparent reality is so much less than that of the realm of the Cheesy Garlic Sauce.

May He be exalted in you, also, and may you find Linguni.

Il Pavarello, expect the unexpected.
-Veronica

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]]> By: theFewtheProudtheMarinara http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-911806 theFewtheProudtheMarinara Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:39:03 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-911806 TangMmmuffin (#143): When I create MY own universe, I'm going to do a much better job of communication than Yawheh/God?Allah. My core message will be "Say what you will about me; I don't care - I'm a big guy - I can take it. What I don't want is for you to mistreat each other - ESPECIALLY in my name. TangMmmuffin (#143): When I create MY own universe, I’m going to do a much better job of communication than Yawheh/God?Allah. My core message will be “Say what you will about me; I don’t care – I’m a big guy – I can take it. What I don’t want is for you to mistreat each other – ESPECIALLY in my name.

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]]> By: Thene http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-911689 Thene Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:31:48 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-911689 What you guys don't realize is all the neigh sayers that are posting hateful comments about our religion is really just His Noodliness himself having a good laugh. Everyone is getting bent out of shape for no reason. I say calm down, and enjoy His humor. It does say in His gospel that he does have a sense of humor. Let us feel blessed that he has graced us with his presence. What you guys don’t realize is all the neigh sayers that are posting hateful comments about our religion is really just His Noodliness himself having a good laugh. Everyone is getting bent out of shape for no reason. I say calm down, and enjoy His humor. It does say in His gospel that he does have a sense of humor. Let us feel blessed that he has graced us with his presence.

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]]> By: CRC http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-910043 CRC Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:42:21 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-910043 I’m new to the FMS and pastafarian theology, but let me share some of the things I’ve learned. First, pastafarians tend to be a very relaxed and pacific group. I find it relaxing specially when I confront it with the attitude of other faiths that tend to force their position. Second, while reading some of the hate mail I noticed that pastafarians do not try to impose their point, while if we take this mail as an example of a larger group, other religions, specially christian centered religions tend to either condemn other people to hell or wishing other people ill (which I find particularly rude). Also taking a condescending position and simply stating that someone has not yet found the "truth" (whatever that means) is not an argument. Being a member of a religion does not make you better than other people it just means you have a different opinion. Maybe you should be more understanding and open minded, after all isn't pride one of the so called seven sins. My best wishes and happy holidays.

I’m new to the FMS and pastafarian theology, but let me share some of the things I’ve learned. First, pastafarians tend to be a very relaxed and pacific group. I find it relaxing specially when I confront it with the attitude of other faiths that tend to force their position. Second, while reading some of the hate mail I noticed that pastafarians do not try to impose their point, while if we take this mail as an example of a larger group, other religions, specially christian centered religions tend to either condemn other people to hell or wishing other people ill (which I find particularly rude). Also taking a condescending position and simply stating that someone has not yet found the “truth” (whatever that means) is not an argument.

Being a member of a religion does not make you better than other people it just means you have a different opinion. Maybe you should be more understanding and open minded, after all isn’t pride one of the so called seven sins.

My best wishes and happy holidays.

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]]> By: TangMmmuffin http://www.venganza.org/2009/11/20/i-understand-your-weak-attempt/#comment-909085 TangMmmuffin Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:34:32 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2687#comment-909085 I love the Biblical God, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnipowerful... and yet so very insecure. When I get around to creating my own universe, I will also smite its beings with eternal damnation that refuse to acknowledge me as their unquestioning Lord and Master. Fear is a great way to motivate love. That is why I abuse my wife, children, and pets. Love Me because you Fear Me.

I love the Biblical God, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnipowerful… and yet so very insecure. When I get around to creating my own universe, I will also smite its beings with eternal damnation that refuse to acknowledge me as their unquestioning Lord and Master. Fear is a great way to motivate love. That is why I abuse my wife, children, and pets. Love Me because you Fear Me.

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