This was sent in response to pastafarian responses from earlier hatemail/concerned criticism post.
Ok, here’s the thing. You set up a website with a place for responses. Your website takes a clearly mocking tone toward religion in general. You gather a bunch of members who agree with you and assert your scientific superiority. All that’s fine. Indeed, I’d say its even American. The thing that disturbs me is when people begin to question the RIGHT of people to “insult us, or. . . pray for us.”
That right is recorded somewhere in some dusty piece of paper – let me think . . . where could it be –
that has worked out well for us all for quite a while.The thing that turns me off, though, and weakens your position most, is that most of you are just mean. I wouldn’t want just to hang out with you at a bar or anywhere else, because your arguments primarily seem to consist of making fun of people. Indeed, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is pretty much one big Ad Hominem argument. It adds nothing to a discussion of the validity of faith, because it is not about faith. (The person who writes that they “believe” in Atheism I’ll give a pass to on this comment.)
Even if Katie is condescending, your responses are more so. It is the lack of love that makes me question your entire premise. Indeed, your definition of hate is awfully broad. It sounds, how shall I put it, downright religious. Even if we live in a Foucaldian world in which our choices are driven by zeitgeist and social darwinism, I personally am going to choose to reject that. I will defiantly assert that even in that world, Faith is still relevant (and if you read his last interviews, I think Michel might agree).
Even if God were not true, I think I’ll still take Katie, who clearly has concern for you (even if you think it is misguided) over you guys who are interested in intellectually crushing her. Just because you have a right to speak doesn’t mean that Katie shouldn’t, and you certainly “have no right” to expect most people who respond to like you if you are going to beat on them.
Take a real philosophical position that can be debated and we’ll talk. Claiming that principles are “generally accepted” won’t do it, and don’t even begin to bring “peer review” in to support claims of truth, because “peer review”, even at its best, isn’t about truth – it’s about methodology and rhetoric.
Otherwise, quit wasting my time.
P.S. Has anyone here actually honestly asked God whether He exists? Just curious as to whether this is an intellectually honest forum or an ideologically rigid one.
-Jeremy
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they are all equally silly.
but FSM has the advantage of being inclusive, free and not sexually uptight.
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The biggest threat to this world are the fundamental religious. If people don’t stand up to bloody stupid faith based systems the world is going to be in BIG trouble. There is no evidence of any kind for any faith based view-point (I know – that is why they are faith based). Blindly believing in complete and utter bollocks will bring the end of the world much faster than I would like thank you very much. So all you fairy story believers should wise up and get some education as to the real physical world – not your bloody stupid, dangerous, mad, man-made, desperate, sad, stupid religious clap-trap!
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Praise be to his grand noodlyness!
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Secondly, if you are a thiest, why even visit another religions webpage? Are looking for an argument? Even if you don’t believe in another persons point of view you shouldn’t necisarily send them an angry email. On the other hand, It seems to me that all though it is just a joke, this website’s purpose is to pose an argument against teaching religious topics in public schools. I completely agree with this, but this is no reason to post all critisisim of an adimited joke idea under “HateMail”. I thank all of you who read this for your time, and hope this comment does not get shot down with “thumbs down”.
Sincerly,
An Agnostic
p.s I LOVE it how some of you say “R’amen” at the end of your posts :P
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Sincerely,
Garrick McElroy
P.S. If you asked God if he was real, and he responded, you should go see a professional.
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But I’ve been touched by his holy appendage and there is no turning back.
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Taking a que from the giant lesbian (HER eminence) Paula Poundstone – “I belong to an atheist ‘church’, where we have people come forward and ‘testify’ that they were crippled…….and still are.” Hard to argue with that one, no? But still, Ah (southern inflection) belieeeeeeeeve!
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I notice how these folks often accuse opponents of Ad-Hominem attacks, though it can be doubtful they know the definition of the fallacy at all. More like a way to make people lose their composure.
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vantutle (#108): The reason religious people (that is not a compliment, by the way) come here is NOT for argument’s sake – that only gets them mad. It’s for affirmation. It’s to hear other people spout their lunacy so they can feel better about themselves. Kind of like how 97% of the “pundits” on Fox “News” are conservatives. They don’t want debate. They want to brainwash the listeners into thinking theirs is the ONLY way.
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@ 78 – Mohammed Falafil -,
Proof of deity’s existance? Please?
Even if it’s only 10% of the proof that all of the other godbots offer to us in answer to the same question to them, show it to us. BTW holy books are “faith”; they are not proof
As believers feel free to make claims about the way the universe works, then they should be challenged on it. That’s what happens when you make truth claims. That your claims are hard to back up is unfortunate. You’re free to believe that the moon is made out of green cheese, but being free to believe that, doesn’t require that other people coddle that delusion.
The attached talk by Dr Andy Thomson tells us how our needs as helpless infants uses the same parts of the brain as our thoughts about the mythology of religion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg
The fears and terrors of the unknown are powerful drivers in our need for superstition.
This is our website, and we are fully justified in defending our cause. It is the exclusion of religious mythology from public school science curricula. Our theology is a satire that depends on and
demeans no other faith or religion. You have obviously not read and understood both the Open Letter and the “About” tab material as you were directed when you entered this site.
RAmen
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“When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh at him.” – Thomas Szasz
That’s why Jeremy.
RAmen
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Awww, you know, I was actually being sympathetic there. Really. I was right with you thinking: do we go too far? Are we too mean?
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Right up until that PS, and then I just fell off my chair laughing.
I’m sorry, really I am.
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“”"P.S. Has anyone here actually honestly asked God whether He exists? Just curious as to whether this is an intellectually honest forum or an ideologically rigid one.”"”
When someone doesn’t answer the phone, it is hard to tell if they exist or not. The number exists, but noone ever answers.
Prayer is fake. Just more ritual and posturing.
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Don’t worry, bobby! We’d hang out with you at a bar!!! Of course we’d have to start by saying a prayer to the spaghetti monster to thank him/her for the peanuts. But then we could have some wonderfully uplifting conversation.
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