Comments on: Mexico sighting http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:57:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Adam http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-930684 Adam Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:54:36 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-930684 Photoshop? Haha wow you guys idots Photoshop? Haha wow you guys idots

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]]> By: Edgar http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-927997 Edgar Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:26:17 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-927997 jaja muy buena hermanos! saludos desde México y los creyentes del FSM jaja muy buena hermanos! saludos desde México y los creyentes del FSM

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]]> By: Pastafarian Leo http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-924682 Pastafarian Leo Tue, 16 Feb 2010 03:10:32 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-924682 @ Mags "U can believe in watever u want, a the phantom of the earwax for all i care, but dont take our images" I am becoming tired of people saying "don't ridicule our images or ideas or what we believe". Cpme on, if people believe in silly things, we pastafarians or whoever have the right to ridicule that shit. And we are not against people or being disrespectful with people, it is just against the idiotic ideas or behaviours that can make slow the advance of science or make difficult our life as a society. Ramen @ Mags

“U can believe in watever u want, a the phantom of the earwax for all i care, but dont take our images”

I am becoming tired of people saying “don’t ridicule our images or ideas or what we believe”. Cpme on, if people believe in silly things, we pastafarians or whoever have the right to ridicule that shit. And we are not against people or being disrespectful with people, it is just against the idiotic ideas or behaviours that can make slow the advance of science or make difficult our life as a society.

Ramen

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]]> By: Mags http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-922796 Mags Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:15:35 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-922796 U can believe in watever u want, a the phantom of the earwax for all i care, but dont take our images, the images that we believe in and insert the spaghetti thing to say it was there first. I cant believe this is real or who can believe in this. Its sad but watever. U can believe in watever u want, a the phantom of the earwax for all i care, but dont take our images, the images that we believe in and insert the spaghetti thing to say it was there first. I cant believe this is real or who can believe in this. Its sad but watever.

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]]> By: Charson http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-908602 Charson Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:57:58 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-908602 Santo Mounstro de Spaguetti volador!!!! Now I believe in virgin of Guadalupe. Santo Mounstro de Spaguetti volador!!!! Now I believe in virgin of Guadalupe.

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]]> By: ivanhoe http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-905318 ivanhoe Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:46:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-905318 Hey Jesus... that old argument "the world is worse now that people are getting away from god" doesn't have any proof to back it up, tell you what, most convicted killers out there believe in a god, some even claim their actions were based on what such god whispered to them, most middle-east terrorists kill other people for considering them infidels. and yes, lets not forget about the inquisition... of course the Virgin of Guadalupe was created by the spaniards as means of "tropicalizing" catholicism so it would be diggested easily by the new converts... this strategy has been used a number of times before. ...for example why is jesus' birth celebrated on Dec. 24? Hey Jesus…

that old argument “the world is worse now that people are getting away from god” doesn’t have any proof to back it up, tell you what, most convicted killers out there believe in a god, some even claim their actions were based on what such god whispered to them, most middle-east terrorists kill other people for considering them infidels.

and yes, lets not forget about the inquisition…

of course the Virgin of Guadalupe was created by the spaniards as means of “tropicalizing” catholicism so it would be diggested easily by the new converts… this strategy has been used a number of times before. …for example why is jesus’ birth celebrated on Dec. 24?

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]]> By: Jesso http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-900586 Jesso Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:13:07 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-900586 How can you say that they have stopped believing in her? 90% of the population is Catholic! No one has stopped believing or forgotten what it is like to be Catholic. They are acting exactly as Catholics have acted since they came into existence. Working to build their own wealth and power no matter what it takes. Shall we review again the list of people that the Catholics have either stood by and watched the bloodshed (WWII), or the times they have killed people for not believing as they do (Crusades, Inquisition, etc). What is going on now sounds pretty par for the course. How can you say that they have stopped believing in her? 90% of the population is Catholic! No one has stopped believing or forgotten what it is like to be Catholic. They are acting exactly as Catholics have acted since they came into existence. Working to build their own wealth and power no matter what it takes. Shall we review again the list of people that the Catholics have either stood by and watched the bloodshed (WWII), or the times they have killed people for not believing as they do (Crusades, Inquisition, etc). What is going on now sounds pretty par for the course.

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]]> By: Anarkikus! http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-898778 Anarkikus! Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:10:17 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-898778 hahahaha, la mejor imagen de FSM que eh visto! Ramén! hahahaha, la mejor imagen de FSM que eh visto!

Ramén!

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]]> By: Silverterror http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-896752 Silverterror Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:38:55 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-896752 Nice parody. Nice parody.

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]]> By: Jesus http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-896508 Jesus Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:44:47 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-896508 "Our beautiful country would be much better if 90% of the people weren’t insanely fanatized with this image" Your country was build around Her image, and it's being smashed to bit because we have stop believing in her and we have forgotten what's it's to be Catholic, respect and love for your neighbor, however the culture of "screw you", "me first", "me, me, me" has lead us to self destruction. " ... created by Spaniards to hold down indigenous peoples and mestizos ..." Prove it Too many replies to catch up, way too much work, back when I can. God Bless you Daniel... Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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]]> By: Paul http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-896421 Paul Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:05:30 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-896421 After reading every comment on this post, i have to say i've heard both sides of the arguement my whole life and i've come to the conclusion that if there really is a God, and he's perfect like i think he would have to be then i would have no idea what to think because i've never seen perfect and i doubt anyone else has seen perfection. Our minds can't grasp perfection because we have never experiensed true perfection, only what our minds percieve as perfection. Human logic is flawed, so my logic will be different from that of an Atheist or what have you. And if God is so perfect why didn't he make us perfect, well i say if I were God, it would be boring for everyone to be just like me. It's not proof, but what do i care. After reading every comment on this post, i have to say i’ve heard both sides of the arguement my whole life and i’ve come to the conclusion that if there really is a God, and he’s perfect like i think he would have to be then i would have no idea what to think because i’ve never seen perfect and i doubt anyone else has seen perfection. Our minds can’t grasp perfection because we have never experiensed true perfection, only what our minds percieve as perfection. Human logic is flawed, so my logic will be different from that of an Atheist or what have you. And if God is so perfect why didn’t he make us perfect, well i say if I were God, it would be boring for everyone to be just like me. It’s not proof, but what do i care.

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]]> By: Paul http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-896414 Paul Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:47:11 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-896414 As a Catholic I find this image histarical for one reason. If the FSM is suppose to be the Pastifarianism God and he is all good as a mock of the Christian, Jewish, Islam, monotheistic God, why do you have Mary standing on him. In the painting she is not standing on God. In the story of the painting, she appeared standing on the God of the Mexicans, which was the snake, also symbolized meaning of the devil, she was above that God (Satan) and was crushing it. And since she wasn't the deity, she was bowing her head in respect of the One True God, so the snake god wasn't as powerful as this woman, who wasn't even a Godly figure. So in a sense the FSM is the devil and the Christian God is still a top the FSM (Satan). Sometimes a back ground story can help before you prove yourselves wrong, and i know this is a great mockery, but if you're going to do it at least do some fact checking. As a Catholic I find this image histarical for one reason. If the FSM is suppose to be the Pastifarianism God and he is all good as a mock of the Christian, Jewish, Islam, monotheistic God, why do you have Mary standing on him. In the painting she is not standing on God. In the story of the painting, she appeared standing on the God of the Mexicans, which was the snake, also symbolized meaning of the devil, she was above that God (Satan) and was crushing it. And since she wasn’t the deity, she was bowing her head in respect of the One True God, so the snake god wasn’t as powerful as this woman, who wasn’t even a Godly figure. So in a sense the FSM is the devil and the Christian God is still a top the FSM (Satan). Sometimes a back ground story can help before you prove yourselves wrong, and i know this is a great mockery, but if you’re going to do it at least do some fact checking.

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]]> By: Daniel http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-895982 Daniel Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:13:26 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-895982 jajajajajaja el Sagrado Monesvol está por doquier =D Our beautiful country would be much better if 90% of the people weren't insanely fanatized with this image, created by Spaniards to hold down indigenous peoples and mestizos. Greetings from Mexico! And down with catholic mafia! well, also all christian, islamic and jewish mafias... all of them but the Holy FSM =D Greetings from Mexico!

jajajajajaja el Sagrado Monesvol está por doquier =D

Our beautiful country would be much better if 90% of the people weren’t insanely fanatized with this image, created by Spaniards to hold down indigenous peoples and mestizos. Greetings from Mexico! And down with catholic mafia! well, also all christian, islamic and jewish mafias… all of them but the Holy FSM =D

Greetings from Mexico!

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]]> By: Someone http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-895422 Someone Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:08:49 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-895422 Horribly photoshoped. Horribly photoshoped.

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]]> By: F. Dwarf http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-894631 F. Dwarf Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:52:19 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-894631 Ana, Diego y Alfonso: gracias por traer a la luz esta bellísima imagen, está genial. ¿Saben? A veces me he preguntado qué haría el gobierno de nuestras ciudades si de pronto los pastafari nos unimos y queremos hacer una peregrinación como las que hacen los católicos el 12 de diciembre. Dudo mucho que nos dejen bloquear calles para andar bailando por ahí disfrazados como lo hacen ellos. Ana, Diego y Alfonso: gracias por traer a la luz esta bellísima imagen, está genial.

¿Saben? A veces me he preguntado qué haría el gobierno de nuestras ciudades si de pronto los pastafari nos unimos y queremos hacer una peregrinación como las que hacen los católicos el 12 de diciembre. Dudo mucho que nos dejen bloquear calles para andar bailando por ahí disfrazados como lo hacen ellos.

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]]> By: Jesso http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-892786 Jesso Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:48:09 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-892786 Remove the double anything. Apologies to His Noodlyness for my poor editing! Remove the double anything. Apologies to His Noodlyness for my poor editing!

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]]> By: Jesso http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-892784 Jesso Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:44:46 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-892784 You know what a decision tree is? -- Yes Well God knows them all, for every single action and unaction he doesn’t decide you do, he only knows the outcome -- I did not say that god decides for me, and you just proved my point. Since god has always known everything that was going to happen from the beginning of time and into infinity, then he knew my choice before I even had the option to make the decision. If he knows the outcome I don't REALLY have a choice because I cannot make a decision contrary to what god knows will happen. I must choose that choice because he is never wrong. Therefore, decision is an illusion. “So, I don’t think he would mind.” Neither do I. -- Good. “So, if you are hearing voices or seeing things, then you should probably see a psychiatrist and get on some meds.” Voices and visions, hehehehe, now you’re the one with assumptions. -- That would be the "IF" part. I qualified it, so there was no assumption. I never said that you were definitely hearing or seeing anything anything. And about to consider what’s sacred and what’s not, it’s based in a little overlooked concept called Respect. -- You need a comma there. Otherwise you are saying that respect is NOT often overlooked. However I understand what you are saying so here we go: Sacred: concerned with religion or religious purposes; consecrated: made or declared or believed to be holy; devoted to a deity or some religious ceremony or use hallowed: worthy of religious veneration; So something being sacred has nothing to do with respect. It has everything to do with religion. Religion is made by man. Which brings me back to my point. What is sacred is determined by man. So, again, I'm not concerned with what man considers sacred. It isn't disrespectful. You just find it so, and are offended, because of the god part. You wouldn't think twice about it if the picture had no religious connotations. We are actually honoring Michelangelo by using his painting to represent our views. As I already said, he often mocked the church and some argue that he was an atheist. If that was the case, he may have even been offended to paint it! He could have just done it for the money! It is really all about the artists opinion anyway, and we have both agreed that he wouldn't mind, so it is a moot point. Still waiting on proof...

You know what a decision tree is?
– Yes

Well God knows them all, for every single action and unaction he doesn’t decide you do, he only knows the outcome
– I did not say that god decides for me, and you just proved my point. Since god has always known everything that was going to happen from the beginning of time and into infinity, then he knew my choice before I even had the option to make the decision. If he knows the outcome I don’t REALLY have a choice because I cannot make a decision contrary to what god knows will happen. I must choose that choice because he is never wrong. Therefore, decision is an illusion.

“So, I don’t think he would mind.”
Neither do I.
– Good.

“So, if you are hearing voices or seeing things, then you should probably see a psychiatrist and get on some meds.”
Voices and visions, hehehehe, now you’re the one with assumptions.
– That would be the “IF” part. I qualified it, so there was no assumption. I never said that you were definitely hearing or seeing anything anything.

And about to consider what’s sacred and what’s not, it’s based in a little overlooked concept called Respect.
– You need a comma there. Otherwise you are saying that respect is NOT often overlooked. However I understand what you are saying so here we go:
Sacred: concerned with religion or religious purposes;
consecrated: made or declared or believed to be holy; devoted to a deity or some religious
ceremony or use
hallowed: worthy of religious veneration;

So something being sacred has nothing to do with respect. It has everything to do with religion. Religion is made by man. Which brings me back to my point. What is sacred is determined by man. So, again, I’m not concerned with what man considers sacred.

It isn’t disrespectful. You just find it so, and are offended, because of the god part. You wouldn’t think twice about it if the picture had no religious connotations. We are actually honoring Michelangelo by using his painting to represent our views. As I already said, he often mocked the church and some argue that he was an atheist. If that was the case, he may have even been offended to paint it! He could have just done it for the money! It is really all about the artists opinion anyway, and we have both agreed that he wouldn’t mind, so it is a moot point.

Still waiting on proof…

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]]> By: ATSAP REVOL http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-892762 ATSAP REVOL Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:28:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-892762 @JESUS Oh, I'm sorry for the typographical error. "Evangelist Peter Jackoff" should have been "Evangelist Peter Popoff." I know the name itself looks like a joke, but unfortunately he's real. Look him up on the web or go to You Tube. - Old Pete has made lots of money peddling his "Miracle Spring Water." It's a good example of how the gullible masses can be exploited by Miracle Peddlers. Perhaps the Catholic Church's dispensation of indulgences or praying a soul through purgatory for a fee is similar? - ATSAP REVOL, Pastafarian Miracle Worker (send your contribution of $27 C/O Bobby Henderson. You will receive a packet of my Miracle Sphagetti, which will cure all ills and make you rich. The first 1,000 contributors also will receive a small jar of my Miracle Marinara Sauce.) @JESUS

Oh, I’m sorry for the typographical error. “Evangelist Peter Jackoff” should have been “Evangelist Peter Popoff.” I know the name itself looks like a joke, but unfortunately he’s real. Look him up on the web or go to You Tube.
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Old Pete has made lots of money peddling his “Miracle Spring Water.” It’s a good example of how the gullible masses can be exploited by Miracle Peddlers. Perhaps the Catholic Church’s dispensation of indulgences or praying a soul through purgatory for a fee is similar?
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ATSAP REVOL, Pastafarian Miracle Worker (send your contribution of $27 C/O Bobby Henderson. You will receive a packet of my Miracle Sphagetti, which will cure all ills and make you rich. The first 1,000 contributors also will receive a small jar of my Miracle Marinara Sauce.)

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]]> By: Jesus http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-892456 Jesus Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:02:33 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-892456 Further clarification "And this Michelangelo painting that you are so worried about?" I'm not and I said it before I'm ok with it, I do have a problem about using sacred images for mere amusement, there's no need for that. you might have stop believing in God but that doesn't justify being disrespectful. Further clarification
“And this Michelangelo painting that you are so worried about?”
I’m not and I said it before I’m ok with it, I do have a problem about using sacred images for mere amusement, there’s no need for that. you might have stop believing in God but that doesn’t justify being disrespectful.

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]]> By: Jesus http://www.venganza.org/2009/10/13/mexico-sighting/#comment-892399 Jesus Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:33:08 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/?p=2577#comment-892399 Opps I missed a bunch of msg. @EvilAtheist Nope, not literal, Catholic teachings and the science behind evolution are not against each other @JESUS Really, there're even book about their construction? You mean it's all fake? All created by evil conspirators bound to control our minds? That want us not to believe in the Holy existence of the great-architect? The monument-maker? That's just awful, those bastards! Carpet stains, chips! Hehehehe! Good one... I've never worship a potato chip. Peter Jackoff’s Miracle Water who is he? The new prophet? @Jesso As you said, nice try, nope You know what a decision tree is? Well God knows them all, for every single action and unaction he doesn't decide you do, he only knows the outcome. "So, I don’t think he would mind." Neither do I. "So, if you are hearing voices or seeing things, then you should probably see a psychiatrist and get on some meds." Voices and visions, hehehehe, now you're the one with assumptions. And about to consider what's sacred and what's not, it's based in a little overlooked concept called Respect. @Horace Hogsnort Oh, silly, he wouldn't Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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