Comments on: h-a-t-e http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:22:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Trevor http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-896606 Trevor Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:58:06 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-896606 Hate is a strong word. Didn't your mother teach you proper manners? Any mocking tone FSMism takes to other religions is both indirect and it doesn't hurt anyone. Presumably, you practice one of the Abrahamic religions, and if that is so your religion is responsible for deaths caused by religious genocide, general racism, homophobia, and warped morality to the point that your religion is not in any way justified, regardless of how many people it "helps". "Helps" is the key word, because in order to understand religion you need to know how it helps people get through their lives. This is why people defend their religions religiously (no pun intended). But the question that remains is this: "Does the fact that religion helps people cope with life's problems really make their lives better when they could just live with the fact that there ALMOST certainly is no one out there governing our lives? The answer to that question is almost certainly a reverberating "no". Wouldn't it be better if we didn't have to deal with the pressure of the delusion that a figure was constantly watching over us? This way our morality would truly be from within, and not warped by a set of rules created by a conformation of ideas from the Bronze-Age. Our morality would truly be by our own will, whether or not our will is "free". Hate is a strong word. Didn’t your mother teach you proper manners? Any mocking tone FSMism takes to other religions is both indirect and it doesn’t hurt anyone. Presumably, you practice one of the Abrahamic religions, and if that is so your religion is responsible for deaths caused by religious genocide, general racism, homophobia, and warped morality to the point that your religion is not in any way justified, regardless of how many people it “helps”. “Helps” is the key word, because in order to understand religion you need to know how it helps people get through their lives. This is why people defend their religions religiously (no pun intended). But the question that remains is this: “Does the fact that religion helps people cope with life’s problems really make their lives better when they could just live with the fact that there ALMOST certainly is no one out there governing our lives? The answer to that question is almost certainly a reverberating “no”. Wouldn’t it be better if we didn’t have to deal with the pressure of the delusion that a figure was constantly watching over us? This way our morality would truly be from within, and not warped by a set of rules created by a conformation of ideas from the Bronze-Age. Our morality would truly be by our own will, whether or not our will is “free”.

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]]> By: Michael F. http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-891771 Michael F. Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:43:50 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-891771 A-W! G-o-d b-l-e-s-s her! A-W! G-o-d b-l-e-s-s her!

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]]> By: Clint http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-890894 Clint Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:06:48 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-890894 RAmen RAmen

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]]> By: Chubaca http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-888244 Chubaca Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:58:12 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-888244 You know what, I feel sorry for little 11 year old Rachel. I am sorry that she has been brainwashed into Christianity. I am sorry that she will do what sick, narrow minded, things her parents tell her to do without question. But what I am mostly sorry for is that she will hate everyone who does not believe in her narrow-minded view of life. You know what, I feel sorry for little 11 year old Rachel. I am sorry that she has been brainwashed into Christianity. I am sorry that she will do what sick, narrow minded, things her parents tell her to do without question. But what I am mostly sorry for is that she will hate everyone who does not believe in her narrow-minded view of life.

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]]> By: Jessica N http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-886191 Jessica N Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:51:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-886191 jack wilson said: whoa. she didn’t say she was a Christian> I AM THOUGH :D I think if an 11 year old is SMART enough to realize how pathetic and stupid this FSM religion is, than it goes to show how stupid all the FSM followers are. How dare you swear and beat up on an 11 year old. Who would want to join a religion filled with a bunch of stupid, retarded, deceived and hate-filled people anyways? You call us hate-filled believers, why don’t you look at yourselves, or is that too painful for you. My reply: You're a Christian? You know what that means: Zombie worshipping cannibal vampire! Run for your lives! Firstly, it's then, not than dipshit. Seconly, no one believes she's eleven just as I doubt anyone believes I'm sixteen(almost seventeen, YAY!). If they did, they wouldn't behave that way. If she's eleven and she's realized how pathetic and stupid our religion is and you're obviously NOT eleven and you HAVEN'T realized how pathetic and stupid Christianity is then an eleven year old is more logical than you. This religion is a parallel to yours so.......think about that for awhile. I know it may take a few days to register. Try not to let it tax your brain too much or you might go batty. Thirdly, Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." Yeah, I'm alluding to your bullshit, guide to life the bible. Some things in there are actually worth my time despite the inaccuracies and the crap about God and all that tosh. If you want to criticize our religion, fine, but don't be surprised when we retort. Finally, fuck off! Just fuck off! We don't need your "why don't you look at yourselves" and all that rubbish. We HAVE looked at ourselves and we've determined that humans, the earth, the universe, all of it, is too extraordinary, too amazing, too grand and beautiful and awe inspiring and filled with wonder to have been created by one being no matter who, or what it is. This religion is not real but it has just as much substance and has been given just as much credence as Christianity. The Bible, while historically important and fascinating in its own right, is just stories. It was written and compiled by men. Not God, not a Saint, not even a fucking unicorn for Chrissakes! Men! And men are flawed and greedy and prone to weakness. They cut out parts about Mary of Magdala because they didn't want to show how important a woman had truly been in Christ's life and the metamorphosis of Christianity. They changed times and dates and places to fit their needs and passed it off as the truth in a time when people were desperate and looking for answers. They manipulated the ignorant and convinced them to persecute those who weren't Christians. I've gone on far too long so I will leave you to your ignorance and simply say, adieu. jack wilson said:

whoa. she didn’t say she was a Christian> I AM THOUGH :D I think if an 11 year old is SMART enough to realize how pathetic and stupid this FSM religion is, than it goes to show how stupid all the FSM followers are. How dare you swear and beat up on an 11 year old. Who would want to join a religion filled with a bunch of stupid, retarded, deceived and hate-filled people anyways? You call us hate-filled believers, why don’t you look at yourselves, or is that too painful for you.

My reply:

You’re a Christian? You know what that means: Zombie worshipping cannibal vampire! Run for your lives!

Firstly, it’s then, not than dipshit.

Seconly, no one believes she’s eleven just as I doubt anyone believes I’m sixteen(almost seventeen, YAY!). If they did, they wouldn’t behave that way. If she’s eleven and she’s realized how pathetic and stupid our religion is and you’re obviously NOT eleven and you HAVEN’T realized how pathetic and stupid Christianity is then an eleven year old is more logical than you. This religion is a parallel to yours so…….think about that for awhile. I know it may take a few days to register. Try not to let it tax your brain too much or you might go batty.

Thirdly, Matt. 7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.” Yeah, I’m alluding to your bullshit, guide to life the bible. Some things in there are actually worth my time despite the inaccuracies and the crap about God and all that tosh. If you want to criticize our religion, fine, but don’t be surprised when we retort.

Finally, fuck off! Just fuck off! We don’t need your “why don’t you look at yourselves” and all that rubbish. We HAVE looked at ourselves and we’ve determined that humans, the earth, the universe, all of it, is too extraordinary, too amazing, too grand and beautiful and awe inspiring and filled with wonder to have been created by one being no matter who, or what it is. This religion is not real but it has just as much substance and has been given just as much credence as Christianity. The Bible, while historically important and fascinating in its own right, is just stories. It was written and compiled by men. Not God, not a Saint, not even a fucking unicorn for Chrissakes! Men! And men are flawed and greedy and prone to weakness. They cut out parts about Mary of Magdala because they didn’t want to show how important a woman had truly been in Christ’s life and the metamorphosis of Christianity. They changed times and dates and places to fit their needs and passed it off as the truth in a time when people were desperate and looking for answers. They manipulated the ignorant and convinced them to persecute those who weren’t Christians.

I’ve gone on far too long so I will leave you to your ignorance and simply say, adieu.

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]]> By: theFewtheProudtheMarinara http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-886002 theFewtheProudtheMarinara Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:24:58 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-886002 me(#173): If you're that smart, why not use "you're"? P.S. Get over yourself. me(#173): If you’re that smart, why not use “you’re”?

P.S. Get over yourself.

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]]> By: plumberbob http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885630 plumberbob Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:03:36 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885630 @ 167 -BJ-, I believe that all facets of religion were created by and for people, and that religion is an attempt by people to answer cosmic questions using the best knowledge and data that were available at the time. In the lives of all religions, it seems to have been standard practice for the clergy to define orthodoxy and enforce dogma for the exclusive advantage of said clergy. Whenever some body questions or up-dates the dogma in any way, it is always fought fiercely by the clergy. See: Rome vs Christians; The Inquisition; The Reformation; Galileo; Science. There is not one example of a peaceful transition in the religious world. Your observation about our ability to think about systems outside of a theistic context illustrates that your premise is the existence of a deity. Since all of modern science operates well without such a premise, it violates the rule of simplicity of Occam's Razor to introduce a deity axiomatically. "How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, 'This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed'? Instead they say, 'No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.'" - Carl Sagan RAmen @ 167 -BJ-,

I believe that all facets of religion were created by and for people, and that religion is an attempt by people to answer cosmic questions using the best knowledge and data that were available at the time. In the lives of all religions, it seems to have been standard practice for the clergy to define orthodoxy and enforce dogma for the exclusive advantage of said clergy. Whenever some body questions or up-dates the dogma in any way, it is always fought fiercely by the clergy. See: Rome vs Christians; The Inquisition; The Reformation; Galileo; Science. There is not one example of a peaceful transition in the religious world.

Your observation about our ability to think about systems outside of a theistic context illustrates that your premise is the existence of a deity. Since all of modern science operates well without such a premise, it violates the rule of simplicity of Occam’s Razor to introduce a deity axiomatically.

“How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, ‘This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed’? Instead they say, ‘No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.’” – Carl Sagan

RAmen

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]]> By: ATSAP REVOL http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885465 ATSAP REVOL Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:37:42 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885465 Dear Me, #173 - My goodness, Me, apparently the IQ test that you took didn't ask you the difference between YOUR (the possessive) and YOU'RE (the contraction for YOU ARE). Also, those with high IQ's are generally aware that the first letter of a sentence is capitalized, as is I. - I score your writing somewhere above "wretched" and much below "high IQ genius." - ATSAP REVOL, The Pedantic Professor of Pastafarianism Dear Me, #173
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My goodness, Me, apparently the IQ test that you took didn’t ask you the difference between YOUR (the possessive) and YOU’RE (the contraction for YOU ARE). Also, those with high IQ’s are generally aware that the first letter of a sentence is capitalized, as is I.
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I score your writing somewhere above “wretched” and much below “high IQ genius.”
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ATSAP REVOL, The Pedantic Professor of Pastafarianism

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]]> By: bruceo http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885027 bruceo Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:29:37 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885027 hey "me" #173: you claim to have one of the highest IQs in history and you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're"? i'll forgive you for typos, but that was just plain duuuuuumb hey “me” #173:
you claim to have one of the highest IQs in history and you don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re”?
i’ll forgive you for typos, but that was just plain duuuuuumb

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]]> By: me http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885002 me Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:54:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885002 actually #169, i am 12 and have one of the highest recorded iqs in history, and I understand his noodliness quite well. you should consider who your speaking around, you unintelligent wretch RAmen actually #169, i am 12 and have one of the highest recorded iqs in history, and I understand his noodliness quite well. you should consider who your speaking around, you unintelligent wretch

RAmen

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]]> By: ssssssssssssvh http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885001 ssssssssssssvh Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:51:44 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-885001 Boy rachel? hahaha! All Hail his noodles! Boy rachel? hahaha! All Hail his noodles!

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]]> By: ssssssssssvh http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-884999 ssssssssssvh Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:49:04 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-884999 I am 12, living in the bible belt, surounded by opresive brainwashed simpletons. ALL HAIL HIS NOODLY POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am 12, living in the bible belt, surounded by opresive brainwashed simpletons. ALL HAIL HIS NOODLY POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: Drained and Washed Clean http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-883616 Drained and Washed Clean Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:24:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-883616 BJ, Science is not a substitution of beliefs. I don't need to substitute anything for the fact that I don't believe in a zombie sky daddy. Science is an exploration of what our universe is and how things came to be. Humans didn't invent anything; we are just exploring how things did come to be and the scientific laws that govern our universe. We made up words to describe our thoughts and numbers to show equations because we have to have some way to communicate these ideas, but that doesn't mean that we invented anything. And! That isn't to say that there aren't other universes out there that operate under different scientific laws. I also don't have to consider an alternative to atheistic views. Science has shown that complexity and higher order thinking comes with evolution over time, so I don't think that this "god" you are trying to weasel in could just appear out of nowhere. There may be beings of higher intelligence and greater technology out there, but they have evolved to that state and are not gods. These beings may even exist outside of our universe. That still doesn't make them gods. I, in no way, shape or form, ever have to consider anything but atheism. In an alternative universe out there, religion doesn't exist. Why can't I live there? Ramen. BJ,

Science is not a substitution of beliefs. I don’t need to substitute anything for the fact that I don’t believe in a zombie sky daddy. Science is an exploration of what our universe is and how things came to be. Humans didn’t invent anything; we are just exploring how things did come to be and the scientific laws that govern our universe. We made up words to describe our thoughts and numbers to show equations because we have to have some way to communicate these ideas, but that doesn’t mean that we invented anything. And! That isn’t to say that there aren’t other universes out there that operate under different scientific laws.

I also don’t have to consider an alternative to atheistic views. Science has shown that complexity and higher order thinking comes with evolution over time, so I don’t think that this “god” you are trying to weasel in could just appear out of nowhere. There may be beings of higher intelligence and greater technology out there, but they have evolved to that state and are not gods. These beings may even exist outside of our universe. That still doesn’t make them gods. I, in no way, shape or form, ever have to consider anything but atheism.

In an alternative universe out there, religion doesn’t exist. Why can’t I live there?

Ramen.

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]]> By: god http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-882997 god Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:19:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-882997 11 year olds are too retarded to understand any form of religion. 11 year olds are too retarded to understand any form of religion.

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]]> By: Edward http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-882505 Edward Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:41:59 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-882505 Alright first of all how do you accidently find a website about a flying spaghetti monster? You would have to like actually try to find something like this. Second of all its a fucking joke sight, theres no need to put down people who don't believe in what you believe in. So you can go take your dumb 11 year old ass and s-u-c-k a dick. Alright first of all how do you accidently find a website about a flying spaghetti monster? You would have to like actually try to find something like this. Second of all its a fucking joke sight, theres no need to put down people who don’t believe in what you believe in. So you can go take your dumb 11 year old ass and s-u-c-k a dick.

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]]> By: BJ http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-881235 BJ Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:17:14 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-881235 Leave the science to the scientists and the theology to the theologians. FSM is a clear satirical mirror on the institutionalized Christianity. What I don't understand is, why do "Pastafarians" not believe in a higher deity (seriously, trying to hold a serious thought together), and use the faults and discrepancies in Christianity to prove it? For example, Pastafarians will bash Christianity for believing in a God that behaves completely different in both testaments, and then try to substantiate their own beliefs with science. I mean, if all you believe is what is proved by science, do you really believe that life, existence, "time and space (whatever those are)" actually operates according to systems that humans invented? I doubt that you could think about that without at least considering alternatives to an atheistic worldview. Leave the science to the scientists and the theology to the theologians. FSM is a clear satirical mirror on the institutionalized Christianity. What I don’t understand is, why do “Pastafarians” not believe in a higher deity (seriously, trying to hold a serious thought together), and use the faults and discrepancies in Christianity to prove it? For example, Pastafarians will bash Christianity for believing in a God that behaves completely different in both testaments, and then try to substantiate their own beliefs with science. I mean, if all you believe is what is proved by science, do you really believe that life, existence, “time and space (whatever those are)” actually operates according to systems that humans invented? I doubt that you could think about that without at least considering alternatives to an atheistic worldview.

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]]> By: The Gremlin http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-881035 The Gremlin Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:58:50 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-881035 Also, people need to quit screaming at the kid. She's 11. There is no need to yell at her. However, she seems to be extremely misguided. Why complain about a made-up religion? Eventually, these poor, misguided fools will see that Cabbagism is the path to enlightenment. Also, people need to quit screaming at the kid. She’s 11. There is no need to yell at her. However, she seems to be extremely misguided. Why complain about a made-up religion? Eventually, these poor, misguided fools will see that Cabbagism is the path to enlightenment.

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]]> By: The Gremlin http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-880651 The Gremlin Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:14:50 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-880651 This is the most depressing complainer yet. It's sad when people have such a religious upbringing that they can't stand a joke about their views. This is the most depressing complainer yet. It’s sad when people have such a religious upbringing that they can’t stand a joke about their views.

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]]> By: Brendan http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-877303 Brendan Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:08:25 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-877303 This is completely wrong for a 11 year old to use the word hate therefore spoiling her brain.. I am a follower of the FSM and have been for almost a year now. I have turned my life around. RAmen This is completely wrong for a 11 year old to use the word hate therefore spoiling her brain..

I am a follower of the FSM and have been for almost a year now. I have turned my life around.

RAmen

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]]> By: Mark Combs http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-874511 Mark Combs Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:43:59 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/24/h-a-t-e/#comment-874511 Your a boy... named Rachel. Let me guess, you come from a fanatical Christian home? Your a boy… named Rachel. Let me guess, you come from a fanatical Christian home?

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