How can you know that God is a F.S.M. if he is invisible? If he is invisible how can you see him?
What is said on this website, in your books and amongst yourselves doesn’t change what the Bible and the real word of God says. Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true and doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences to jumping off of a cliff. Someone can easily say “I don’t believe in gravity because I can’t see it, etc..because it’s an old belief….” but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. This is like Gods laws for all of humanity.
Have any of you ever seen your own brain? Does that mean that it isn’t there? Have any of you ever seen your heart? Does that mean that it isn’t inside your body still beating? Have any of you ever seen your soul? Does that meen that it isn’t there?
The fact is that we do have souls and I heard it put this way “If God did not exist than man would create one” and this is what has been done with the F.S.M. group. You have created a God and the Bible calls this idol worship. Often times groups in the Bible would create an idol to worship because they couldn’t see or hear or touch God.
God’s fingerprints are on all of creation and more and more scientists and peole are recognizing this alike. Antony Flew, one of the worlds most famous atheists has recently said that there is a God and one who is intelligent. The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27) so we know that God is not a flying spaghetti monster.
On another note, God’s word was written because He loves us and showed his unending love for us through his son Jesus Christs death on the cross and ultimatley, His resurrection from the grave. Romans 10:9 says that “If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Salvation comes through Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone (John 14:6).
I would recommend that anyone who is a follower of this group to read not only the Bible but a series of books from a former atheist called “The Case for Christ” and “the Case for Creator” and from there you can draw your own conclusions. If you are truly seeking for answers in life than I would encourage all of you to search for those answers and don’t just give up by creating your own religion/idol.
Romans 3:23 says that “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. That means you, me and everyone else in the entire world.
Think about it, if all the people in the world were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the ship was going down and there were no lifeboats, everyone would need a Savior no matter how hard they tried to save themselves. That savior is Jesus Christ. Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone. Once a person proclaims that Jeesus is Lord it is up to that person to live his/her life for Him.
I hope that this has been some help to all of you.
-CD
How can you know God is a FSM
Published by Bobby Henderson April 15th, 2009 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 406 Comments
406 Responses to “How can you know God is a FSM”
It says in our gospel that He is a FSM, so we know He’s not a beardy old man.
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How can you honestly know God looks like a Human?
Maybe Bobby is a prophet!
” Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone. Once a person proclaims that Jeesus is Lord it is up to that person to live his/her life for Him. ”
First, you spelled ” JESUS ” wrong. Second, if all you have to do is accept Jesus, you can do whatever you want (i.e. kill *thousands* for being witches, who were actually valuable members of society).
Yeah, I’m a witch.
I’m a Green Witch.
http://www.witchvox.com
I *don’t* worchip Satan.
We don’t even believe in Satan.
Neither did the early Christians.
Satan and Hell was invented to scare people into the Churches.
And that’s what your trying to do!
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God’s word is NOT like gravity. Gravity makes me fall down whether I believe in it or not. God’s word does not make me believe whether I want to or not.
I will accept God’s word as Truth when you can show me irrefutable scientific evidence of His existence. Untill such a time, do not equate the pages of two books (of dubious origin) with a sound scientific theory which passes empirical tests every day, all around the world.
Newton did not suffer the falling apple (nudged loose by His Noodly Appendage) to be equated to some bearded manifestation of mass delusion founded in some desert village thousands of years ago. Tha would be like equating Christopher Columbus to captain James T. Kirk. Both are equally amazing, but only one (sadly) really existed, or in Kirk’s case, will have existed.
rAmen
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how the fuck can you tell there’s a god? you say there is no FSM because he is invisible but you don’t deny there is a god when yet he’s invisible? FSM shows up now and then but god never does. if he’s real he’d show up now and again like FSM. if he’s real he tell all of his annoying dumbass followers to shut the fuck up about FSM and mind their own fucking business. so the christians can preach all they want but Pastafarians can’t? wtf
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How the hell can you stupid holy joes go around askin people if the FSM is god or not to me its more likely then some old guy hu was once upon a when an angry vengeful prick who then decided, u know wat even tho all humainty are my children im gonna send my ONLY son(wtf) tos ave them from the same crap theyre gonna keep goin doin any way, and then become gorgiving its hypocritical and stupid u sobs think ur so friggin righteous wen u believe that kinda crap it makes no sense atleast we get the beer volcano and stripper factory!!!!!!!!!!
Ramen
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o by the way No. 302 sasha: in confirmation thats actually true as well even satanists arent as bad as their rep look up the satanic rules of the earth satanism was a pagan religion based (if im not mistaken had elements of the greek gosds in it)
respect to ur honesty and openess
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WTF -Wat do u mean we dont believe in gravity? And you think were retarded!
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This is the first time i comment on anything i have read here. It might be the fact that Bobby Henderson sounds like one of those poor indoctrinated conservative Christians that is so blinded by his own faith, he does not see outside of the box. THIS WILL BE A SHORT REBUTTAL OF WHAT OUR FRIEND BOBBY PUBLISHED HERE.
Bobby, you mention “the Bible and the real word of God”, what you are failing to see is that, this accounts only to one religion, to the religion you have been indoctrinated to believe in. For a Muslim the “real word of god” is the Quran, for a Jew it would be the Torah, for Buddhists the for example the Pali Canon. Your ignorance, which sprouts from your belief in god, has tricked you into thinking that the bible is the only real word of god. All the religions named and many more would think the same of their scriptures.
Furthermore, and i must say i am stunned that you really chose such a ridiculous argument, God is not like gravity. Even if you cant see gravity, or air for example, they are physically present and scientifically provable. We can measure the compounds in air around us, we can measure the strength of gravity, its force and its link to other objects and many more. I am still shocked that you did not see this argument failing before you published it. Truly put some more thought into what you write. There is no way to scientifically prove gods presence. We did not invent God-o-meters, nor can we, because what does not exist, can not be measured.
“Have any of you ever seen your own brain? Does that mean that it isn’t there?” Please, and i am repeating this, give a little thought into what you write, when you decide to come up with analogies, this was a very bad one. You tried to say that even if you cant see god, it doesnt mean he doesnt exist, and you compared it to seeing a persons brain or heart? what a failure. I cant see you, but you physically exist, i can visit you, see you, touch you you catch the drift. I can have a CT scan that will undoubtedly prove the existence of my brain and heart. they can cut me open and show me, i can listen to my heart beat, i can have a EKG taken, there are endless methods to prove the existence of these two mentioned organs. There is no alternative way to do this when i comes to proving god. So this argument fails terribly.
“If God did not exist than man would create one”, exactly… i cant believe you actually used an argument that contradicts your entire stance and faith. The polytheistic gods of egypt or Rome were here much earlier than the belief in the Christian God and Jesus Christ. They were all created by man. every single one of them. Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism etc. all created by man and its time you realized that. if they werent created by man, and there was only one true faith, we would 1. all believe in that one faith/God 2. have found drawings of god in caves made by cavemen. The fact that Christianity is such a young religion just shows how false, fake and artificial it is. The fact is People created such an Idol “Jesus Christ” exactly for the reason that they couldnt see god, so they manufactured a only born son, that came down to earth, died for their sins, and was resurrected and rose to heaven. This again, makes your entire “worship” argument fail miserably. anybody can throw a quote out, just make sure it makes sense, try to put some own thought into it… : “Is MAN god’s greatest mistake, or is GOD man’s greatest mistake” – Friedrich Nietzsche
Ah, I love it “…one scientist recently said…” “Antony Flew…” . Religious people will give you this crap pretty often. The fact Bobby, is that 95 % of the scientific community are atheist (and i do mean scientific, im not talking about pastor Jones who thinks he disproved the age of the earth by sticking a piece of thread in salty water, and watched the water vaporize and create a “stalactite”). Read a statistical study once in a while, or a scientific book. If one of the most famous Christians said, god doesnt exist, you wouldnt believe him and it wouldnt change your opinion so dont even try this childish argument. For every one atheist that changes his mind like you state Antony did, you can find hundreds of thousands that wouldnt.
Yay, bible quotes. Bobby the bible also tells you to kill homosexuals : “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13). I trust you dont murder Homosexuals. And if you dont, you are going against the word of your own god. Dont be a hypocrite.
I am sorry to say that the rest of you Hate mail makes even less sense. I am not getting into a canonical discussion because you would lose. God does not exist therefore he cannot love you. thats about it. Dont blindly trust what some book tells you. Im not quoting Harry Potter and holding it for the undeniable truth, neither should you do the same with the bible. And your example of a sinking boat… lets just say it shows how shallow your religion is, that at the moment of need you turn to an non existing deity. Stop being scared of death, its inevitable. Realize who you are and where you live. Believing in Jesus Christ or any other god for that matter is delusional. You might think it makes you feel happy, but thats just because you dont have a comparison. Sew your parents for indoctrinating you and ruining your life and snap out of it.
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how do you know your god isnt a flying spaghetti monster?
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I’m just amazed at how many people regard the bible as credible documents of history. What we basically have is bon fire-tales that have been passed on from father to son and merchant to customer through hundreds of years before ever being written down. This is the part that Christianity got from the Jews, the old testament. It is accompanied by the tales of a Cosmic Jewish zombie who made his own mother pregnant with his child which is also himself (so he could be his own son, therefore father and grandfather to himself and so on), and who can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a woman made from a single rib was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree (thanks to another Pastafarian whose name I have sadly forgotten for this half-quote). After that, both these books are edited countless times to fit the mood of the religious elite, ripping out several gospels in the process. Yeah, those stories are clearly far more accurate and credible than ours. Mhm.
Pasta be given to the Pirates, for they shall inherit the earth!
-Lundix-
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why are you bringing christianity into this, thats like comparing hinduism to satanism. there two compleetly different things. if you think god is not a flying spaghettie monster, then i would like you to think of this. christianity cannot even get the basis of there religion right, you describe “satan” as a big red guy with horns, who lives in hell and punishes all wrong doers, and all non belivers. bnut because i have studied religion, and have a large knowledge on satanism. your religion is not even based on the right satan. your satan is actually know as baphomet. satan is really the bad part in evreything in the world, it is the wrong doing in evreything, we need to control it. and also, one of the strongest belivers of christianity you could meet was a serial killer, police belive he took the bible way too seriously, thus why he killed so many people, who was it? jack the ripper. befor you start saying other religions are retarted, learn some truths about your own. die in a hole you ignorant bastard.
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You want to make the statement that Jesus was the son of God?
First, prove he even existed!
Why is there no Gospel of Jesus?
Why is there a frightening lack of any historians mentioning a man who was performing miracles?
Where was he during most of his life? (ans: if you’re going to make up a whopper, don’t throw in unnecessary details)
Why is his virgin birth, crucifixion and resurrection just the latest (16th) version of the tired old Saviour myth?
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The quote from Francois-Marie Arouet (Voltaire) that “if God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him”. is certainly not the strongest argument for theism! While a believer himself, Voltaire’s quote only demonstrates the view of psychologists and sociologists that religion fulfils fundamental human needs, and is not dependent on the existence of God. People want to believe in God, the existence of religion serves a useful function in structuring our society, and it (used to) provide the best answers to ontological questions. People could therefore very feasibly have created God and religion, not the other way round.
Flew meanwhile, is an atheist who is making a very similar point to the Invisible Pink Unicorn (if you haven’t heard of it, and you like the FSM, you should check out the IPU too!) By defending theism in the absence of empirical evidence (i.e.: God can not be discovered and heard, smelt, touched, etc.), religious believers have qualified God to the point where His existence makes no difference. In his parable of the gardener, Flew points out that there is essentially no difference between an invisible transcendent God and no God at all.
While this view won’t be accepted by religious believers, the FSM is making a serious point. It’s funny, satirical, fairly disrespectful, and clearly not a serious proposition. However, it follows the example of Bertrand Russell by asking why the burden of proof should fall on the sceptic. Without any conclusive proof of the existence of God, atheism and theism should both be considered equally valid positions of faith. Agnosticism is the only truly rational approach to religion. If atheists constantly have to defend their point of view, then religious believers should be expected to as well when faced with challenges like FSM.
People who have posted abusive hate mail about how ridiculous belief in the FSM and his noodly appendage is have quite spectacuarly missed the point, and don’t represent a very good face of theism. The person who left this comment (which I don’t think could be classed as hate mail) is obviously much more intelligent and considerate, and has probably well-informed foundations for their belief. However, I still don’t think either view can really be considered as ‘better’ than the other.
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Wow….yet your god is invisble and we are all supposed to give up our beliefs of our invisble FSM and follow your INVISIBLE god….. makes complete sense!
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Yeah, no. The satire just went straight over your head. Sigh… Please understand! This is a satire of your religion, all your hatemail is foolish. I’m sorry, but if you don’t understand the simplicities of humour, go back to kindergarten or just stay in your little bubble of infinite stupidity.
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One more thing, most people aren’t that bad. Just because your religion makes everyone in it feel inadequate, doesn’t mean they actually are. I’m a pretty decent person. I’m not saying I’m perfect, but I’m not all that bad of a person, like your god wan’ts me to believe. It’s silly to think that you’re a horrible person, you’re not most likely. And once you realise that your religion is not in fact, correct, you’ll realise that you’re a good person, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just mean.
Here’s to hoping His Noodly Appendage touches you,
-GM
RAmen
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Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true and doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences to jumping off of a cliff
Love this particular quote, because it really emphasises the difference between a theist and an atheist/agnostic (whatever particular brand of questioner you feel most comfortable with). where the atheist sets about trying to prove gravity, find out laws and constantly will challenge the assertion that gravity is real, especially if faced with the possibility that it is not, the theist will assert that the reality lies in the correlation between how things really are and how they are said to be. an atheist, who heretofore has had no other experience or knowledge of gravity than that provided by earth, will probably change their mind about exactly what gravity qualifies if placed on the moon. A theist, however, will continue to assert that gravity is what it is, and has always been, despite evidence to the contrary.
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We obviously have a scripture buff here. I have a few questions they should know the answer too since they obviously have an extensive understanding of what the bible tells us.
Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? – Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I have quite a few more, but I will wait for an answer to these 3 before I continue.
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I am a general surgeon and can confirm that I have seen many, many brains and many, many hearts. However, in all the operations I have carried out, or witnessed, i have never yet seen a soul……
Now I wonder what that suggests…..
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Huh. It seems like almost all of you are missing the point. Noone actually believes that god is a FSM. This site is satire. It is meant to demonstrate how ridiculous it is to teach Intelligent Design in public schools.
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Let me first state this, I understand the Irony of a Discordian, posting on The FSM website, about what a Christian said. But as a Discordian, I believe that Faith is like fingerprints…..everyone has them, they are different for everyone in some way…..and most importantly, True for that one person. Having said that, allow me to comment on the letter. First of all, the only living author he references, while claiming to be a Life Long Atheist that was shown the light, was a Teaching pastor by the age of 35…..unless this man went from Atheist to Pastor over night……..not a very long Atheistic life. Secondly, his two book that are mentioned are nothing more then a collection of interviews of christian historians (I respectfully use that term as a Title….not to equate them with real historians) that outlines his arguments for Christ and Intelligent Design. I find it interesting how I could get a similar book on how the Holocaust never happened by interviewing Neo-Nazis. I will not mention much on the fact of using the Bible to argue that God exists, When God is used as proof that the Bible is accurate (That is called circular logic…..a logical fallacy). Finaly….and most sadly, I must ask on You Pasatafarians….Do not fall into his trollish trap of attacking each other, His hate can do only two things, show all a lesson of just what a closed mind is……or breed more hate.
May I consult with my Phinal Gland as strongly as His Noodly Appendage has touched all of you,
L.D.
Fnord
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Erm, Michal… #308, this guy’s name isn’t Bobby. Bobby Henderson made this website. People send him hate mail and he puts it up. He didn’t write it. Not being mean, your arguement against it was well thought out (though your grammar and punctuation could use a little work) but this is just a FYI.
Now, to the OP’s statement. Wow… Just… Wow… Michal (#308) said basically everything I could have said. You could have basically just used that same exact arguement against christianity. CD, you, my friend, are what we in the real worl call, “an idiot.”
Here’s to hoping His Noodly Appendage touches you,
-GM
RAmen
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CD,
God is not like gravity; god actually WAS gravity! It was the force holding us to the planet. That position was not changed until evidence was produced (Sir Isaac Newton) to the contrary. Then they did not believe in that anymore. Kind of like me. I believed in god, then evidence was produced to the contrary, and then I did not believe in it anymore.
See, that is how actual science works. You have to supply tangible proof. It amazes me that the amount of evidence you demand from science is more than science could possibly ever supply, yet you can accept the stories from a book of fairytales as truth and proof because your mommy and an invisible man told you so. You are the one making the claim that god is real, so the burden of proof is on YOU. Then you give us a bible that has been mis-translated 50,000 times, and contains words that were not even invented until well after the bible was supposedly written (the word homosexual was not invented until the 16th century… strangely it is in my bible… how did that happen?!?), but somehow you win…? You really must give me a lesson in your arguing techniques. I also want to be able to claim victory while offering absolutely no proof.
I recommend for you to read books like “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins or “God: The Failed Hypothesis” by Victor Stenger. However, you would have to read these with an open mind and simple reasoning skills. Can you muster that and actually take a look at the other side?
Peace and Sauciness, RAmen,
D&WC
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being a christian isnt a religion…its a relationship…unless you know..actually know God, or at least try, youre right..you wont here him..but if you seek him…you will find him…he wants to love you..so why not let him..?
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Hey there, I’m new to the Church of the FSM (being a fan of the Landover Baptist Church), but may semolina be with you (and also with me). Anyway, is this guy for real? What’s say we don’t explain any of this to him. It’s way more fun.
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In response to #319. The soul isn’t physical…duh
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#318
Clearly you are coming at Christainity and the Bible with a completely jaded view. If you are really willing to listen with an open mind, then someone will show you the answers. As long as you want to pick a fight you will get no where. You need to start in sqaure one: Who is Jesus? Why did He come to Earth? Why did He die on the Cross? Is there a heaven and how can I get there? If you do not have the faith to have an open mind, then you definitely lack the faith to believe.
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Quick question. Idol worshiping. You point fingers at me for my “idol worshiping,” yet you can worship the “virgin” mary and a picture of a dead guy on a cross. I don’t care if it pertains to your religion. Thats still an idol and your still worshiping it. Pretty much your damned to. Live a little Geez
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To “Chistain” -or- “Christain” (however you prefer to spell it today) #326/327,
You come here today asking US to look at christianity and the bible with an open mind… Interesting, seeing as how you have obviously come here without one. Most of us here HAVE looked at the buybull with an open mind (I was a christian, baptized at age 8, full practicing believer until about age 22, then I actually began to use my brain), and we have been left with multiple questions that I am sure you will be willing to answer for me:
1. Since god wrote this book, how can he not know where his own son was born?
2. Your book claims that Jesus had to be the direct descendent David, yet he has no paternal… well… anything because he was born to a virgin, therefore does not come from the line of David, and so does he still remain the savior?
3. Could you please ask the people who wrote the 4 Gospels to come to some sort of agreement as to who Jesus’s ancestors were and how many he had?
4. Lastly, the word “homosexual” is in my bible, yet this word was not invented until the 16th century (that, by the way, was WAY after the bible was written). Explanation?
Well I have an explanation for all of these questions. Man wrote your book of fairy tales, and the Gospels were just trying to get their story as close as possible to the prophecies in Isaiah. You are of course going to say that none of this matters and that I should just believe. This is where you and I differ. I will now never believe anything without actually taking the time to find the truth for myself. You will be herded like a sheep for the rest of your life and will believe anything you are told (especially if the invisible sky man has told you to – kinda scary since he has told people to do things like start wars, blow up abortion clinics, have sex with children, and run planes into buildings). You have no concept of what an open mind is, so, therefore, should not run around and tell everyone else to have one. The “open mind” you are suggesting is us giving up our beliefs for yours because “Christain is right because god says so in the bible”. And now we have come full circle.
Funny though. I am happier now in His Noodly Appendeges than I ever was with the invisible sky man. I opened my mind to possibilities; could you possibly do the same? Oh, and since you obviously don’t have an open mind, then you obviously don’t have the faith to believe either, so I guess you are actually an atheist too!
RAmen,
D&WC
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I heard it put this way “If God did not exist than man would create one” and this is what has been done with the F.S.M. group. You have created a God and the Bible calls this idol worship. Often times groups in the Bible would create an idol to worship because they couldn’t see or hear or touch God
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everyone needs to just shut up. people have their own opinions, leave it at that.
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This is some of the dumbest shit I have ever read in my life, and you think FSM is dumb? Why don’t you just follow some religion that your parents indoctrinated you with. You cannot use the cleverly made words of some very smart individuals who read history books and combined multiple religions to make a very popular religion. Have you ever heard of Horus, aka the original Jesus. Saying people don’t believe in it because its old, Christianity is one of the youngest religions in the world, way to pick a new one dick. The idea of gravity is 5 times younger than Christianity.
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“The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27)”
If we were created in his image then does that mean God has a bellybutton?
If so, then this means God was born?
Does God have parents? Siblings? And surely this means God cannot be all poweful, if there is more than one God?
Ahhh, Christianity really does not compare with Pastafarianism at all.
RAmen
MSBUH (May Sauce Be Upon Him)
Dan
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hahahaha some people are just the biggest fucking idiots…
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lol how can anyone know god ISN’T the fsm?
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I take comfort in the fact that the last thing that goes through these people’s minds before they die is doubt.
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I guess there is no god in space? no gravity.
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#330
“Often times groups in the Bible would create an idol to worship because they couldn’t see or hear or touch God”
Yeah, Jews being one of those groups. Not? Oops, sorry, I forgot all religions are idol-worshippers but yours, wich obviously is the only true religion. No though, no doubt allowed in faith!
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“Often times groups in the Bible would create an idol to worship because they couldn’t see or hear or touch God.”
*Cough*worshipthecross*cough*
Yeeahh… So, you go into any church, and you will probably see a cross, somewhere. People give praise and worship to the cross (listen to the hymns). Umm… Let’s look at what you said again? >:D
And in regards to “The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27) so we know that God is not a flying spaghetti monster.”, nowhere in that passage does it ever mention that it’s his physical image we’re created in. And, in fact, the only idea we have of God up til then is that he’s a creator. Hey, you know, i think humans are pretty good at creating things… Could that be a meaning that it’s a metaphor?
In fact, as far as i’m aware, there is no evidence in the bible to suggest that God and FSM could be one and the same :P
And please, if there are any Christian trolls out there, don’t flame me for this. You give all us Christians who can actually attempt to think something through a bad name :/
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So you call yourself open-minded? Be open minded enough to read Romans 1:18-23. Let the Bible speak for itself… Also do the following test: http://www.wayofthemaster.com/goodperson.shtml But do the entire test, be honest with yourself for once…
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“Think about it, if all the people in the world were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the ship was going down and there were no lifeboats, everyone would need a Savior no matter how hard they tried to save themselves. That savior is Jesus Christ.”
Does this mean no Christians have ever drowned?
How do you know that ANYONE has ever been “saved” by faith? Obviously, since many Christians have drowned or not have had their prayers answered, by “saved” you mean they were rewarded in the afterlife. Have you spoken to any of them?
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Just out of curiosity D:,
Have you ever spoken to any of “these people” before they die? Or perhaps you read their thoughts?
I am honestly confused here.
So, please get me a list of all the pastafarians that you have spoken to (or had telepathic communication with) on their deathbeds. I would like that list in alphabetical order. Please include the date and time of death, and the exact words that you heard (in their heads or out loud) that states this doubt that you claim “they” all have.
If there is a god, and he allows an idiot like you into heaven, then I would rather be in hell with my fellow Pastafarians who at least are able to think for themselves and are not pompous jackasses who insist that they are right because an invisible man in the sky told you so, and a book of fairy tales backs you up.
I won’t have a doubt when I die (and by the way, neither did Darwin).
In Peace and Sauciness, RAmen,
D&WC
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No compact disk tells me how to live my life! Haha, but seriously now. Your sinking boat example makes no sense to me, much like your argument for your religion. I’m wondering if you believe that sending hate mail to a sacreligious website helps your chances of getting into Heaven. Well, if that’s the case, I would like no part in your savior, even if there are no lifeboats.
#336, I’ve never thought of that! I almost feel guilty that it makes me happy.
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u misspelled jesus in the last paragraph
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You’re arguments all rely on the assumption that your bible is the truth. There is real evidence support anything in your bible other than it mentioning places known to have existed and that most scholars agree that a person similar to the descriptions given of Jesus was crucified by the Romans. Bring some evidence, and we’ll belive in your ridiculous religion.
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What the hell is your deal? the Flying spaghetti monster church is just something something meant for fun, and of cpurse you hardcore christians have to go and shit on our parade.
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OK, Gerhard, #340, I took the way of the master test.
I was honest, and it looks like I failed miserably :( I guess I don’t quite cut it as a good catholic.
It goes on to say that since I broke the ten commandments (all of them by the way, according to Ray Comfort’s interpretation) that I have “ANGERED GOD” and am now considered an “ENEMY OF GOD” and that I should “FEAR HIS WRATH”.
Seems that my all powerful, all forgiving, everloving, lifegiving, supreme creator wants to punish me eternally in a place a called “Hell”, because I covetted my neighbor’s wide screen TV, among other things.
Well, I’m scared shitless now.
“I’D REALLY RATHER..” enjoy my eternal afterlife in a nice place.
There’s only one thing to do… I must switch my allegiance to a god who doesn’t threaten me, and treats me how he likes to be treated. Hello FSM!!!
Now that I have FSM protecting me, I have nothing to fear.
(My god is tougher than your god, and I can prove it through volumes of ancient literature that some guys wrote, AND I still get to ignore that annoying science thingy stuff…win/win!)
So I will enjoy HIS overflowing saucy goodness and stop wasting my time being concerned about idiotic fairy tales and gay men who wear tall hats.
Thank you GERHARD #340 for setting me straight!!!
May you walk on perfectly aged parmesan sprinkles for all your days.
RAmen.
-TooferMan
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you are a loser.Have you friken seen god i haven’t.If god realy cared he would come and vist once and a friken while(since he iz supposedly all powerful) i mean come fuckin dumbasses u have no proof either and also you take fuckin joke!
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the ivisible man didn’t even tell you shit he didn’t do shit
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Oh my… you have managed to write hate mail with passable grammar, spelling, and capitalization and still be completely incoherent. You seem to be oblivious to the self-sabotaging nature of your arguements to the point that I half believe you must be joking.
Look, the F.S.M. is based on the same thing the Trinity is: blind faith. There is no significant proof, no clear-cut, black-and-white reason to believe in either. The main difference: Pastafarianism is satirical, while Christianity actually takes itself seriously.
Another thing: you cannot cite your religion’s gospel and plausible proof. If I don’t believe in Jesus, I’m not likely to take the Bible as a reliable and unbiased source of information. I could tell you that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is indisputable truth and His gospel is flawless evidence to this, but that is the kind of circular reasoning that any lucid person would recognize as vacuous.
There is one more thing I must address. Some of us don’t need the Vatican’s imaginary friend to provide us with answers. Mind-boggling though it may seem to you, we are capable of interacting with the world by ourselves, on our own terms. Despite what you seem to believe, independent thought will not culminate in disaster any more often than conformist superstition will.
I do hope that you manage to get some oxygen to your brain in the near future.
R’Amen.
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