How can you know that God is a F.S.M. if he is invisible? If he is invisible how can you see him?
What is said on this website, in your books and amongst yourselves doesn’t change what the Bible and the real word of God says. Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true and doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences to jumping off of a cliff. Someone can easily say “I don’t believe in gravity because I can’t see it, etc..because it’s an old belief….” but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. This is like Gods laws for all of humanity.
Have any of you ever seen your own brain? Does that mean that it isn’t there? Have any of you ever seen your heart? Does that mean that it isn’t inside your body still beating? Have any of you ever seen your soul? Does that meen that it isn’t there?
The fact is that we do have souls and I heard it put this way “If God did not exist than man would create one” and this is what has been done with the F.S.M. group. You have created a God and the Bible calls this idol worship. Often times groups in the Bible would create an idol to worship because they couldn’t see or hear or touch God.
God’s fingerprints are on all of creation and more and more scientists and peole are recognizing this alike. Antony Flew, one of the worlds most famous atheists has recently said that there is a God and one who is intelligent. The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27) so we know that God is not a flying spaghetti monster.
On another note, God’s word was written because He loves us and showed his unending love for us through his son Jesus Christs death on the cross and ultimatley, His resurrection from the grave. Romans 10:9 says that “If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Salvation comes through Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone (John 14:6).
I would recommend that anyone who is a follower of this group to read not only the Bible but a series of books from a former atheist called “The Case for Christ” and “the Case for Creator” and from there you can draw your own conclusions. If you are truly seeking for answers in life than I would encourage all of you to search for those answers and don’t just give up by creating your own religion/idol.
Romans 3:23 says that “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. That means you, me and everyone else in the entire world.
Think about it, if all the people in the world were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the ship was going down and there were no lifeboats, everyone would need a Savior no matter how hard they tried to save themselves. That savior is Jesus Christ. Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone. Once a person proclaims that Jeesus is Lord it is up to that person to live his/her life for Him.
I hope that this has been some help to all of you.
-CD
How can you know God is a FSM
Published by Bobby Henderson April 15th, 2009 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 406 Comments
406 Responses to “How can you know God is a FSM”
a…a…are you retarded? I couldn’t even finish it. And i have seen my own brain, it is called a cat scan or an m-r-i, same with my heart almost but with a really cool invention called x-ray! yeah, and for the soul, no proof. there is no soul, I am soulless as are you.
second subject: yes, I have seen gravity,not with my eyes, because they are a sense that only picks up light and only an idiot would believe that gravity is a light. But I have seen it with a sense the the fsm gave me called touch which is related to pressure which is a direct connection to gravity. As for your god? nothing.
And if you say that we created a god because there wasn’t one like you have stated then you are telling yourself that there is no god.
Counter argument- ever heard of an atheist?
My savior is the fsm.
Last but not least, I do not want to be “saved” by some pervert who killed his son saying it would free you of your sins if you accept me into your heart. And if you do something I do not like I will send you to an eternal death. sounds…you tell me.
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prove that your god is any more real than the FSM (may his noodley appendages touch you). There is proof that Jesus existed, but no proof that he was anything more than a mortal man. Just like you believe the bible is telling the truth, even though you can’t prove it, so do we believe the eight I-really-wish-you-rather-wouldn’ts are true, even though we can’t prove it.
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Gerhard,
“Tell me something, do you know the spaghetti monster and how is it going to cleanse you of your sin and give you everlasting life?”
I never asked for everlasting life. The evidence for FSM is more compelling than evidence of your God. Since the version of your God is depicted as behaving like a petulant 5 year old. Seriously if there is a Supreme Being do you think they would act like a spoiled brat? As to sin. The Christian Church I was brought up in basically told us just try to not sin, you don’t get absolved of it, because at the end you have good deeds and sins and you only get into heaven if you have more good deeds than sin, Pastor didn’t believe in free rides. Maybe more Christians should follow that way of thought, because they would behave better and a lot more like followers of Christ’s teachings.
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“Dont just fight with me about it, does it really make sense?”
Yes it does, it always makes sense to fight blind faith (not faith just the blind kind) and willful ignorance.
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“Are you 100% sure that I am the one which is mislead?”
Yes, I think you are 100% wrong.
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“To all reading this: Jesus Christ died for you and took the punishment of your sin so you don’t have to go to hell!!! Is that so hard to believe?”
Based on the actual history of the Bible, it’s discrepancies and the fact at accounts of Jesus (if you believe he lived) where written years after his death often from third party accounts. So I find it impossible to believe.
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Hi Gerhard. There are so many deceptions out there, and only one true Flying Spaghetti Monster!!! I believe in the FSM not only because of the gospel of the FSM, but because His Noodliness has changed my life so drastically that I can never go back to the way I was. To actually be able to know the FSM and to see His power in my life every day… Tell me something, do you think someone can be his own father and his own son? Don’t fight with me about it, does it really make sense to you? Are you 100% sure that I am the one which is mislead? The FSM could, but chose not to, have himself nailed to a tree and feign death for 3 days, to save people from hell-rather he did not create hell in the first place(!). That’s because he is not a sadomasochist. It is that so hard to believe?
Well if it is, then you have to take it on faith.
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@ Gerhard: Now, how shall I put this without getting everyone dizzy? Well, let me try.
Your religion tells us that as atonement for humans’ past sins, our present sins and all future sins, God sends himself to Earth to torture and kill himself so that he will impress himself so much that he forgives us all – when he could always have simply forgiven us and spared himself all the trouble.
Is that so hard to believe? YES.
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” Jesus Christ died for you and took the punishment of your sin so you don’t have to go to hell!!! Is that so hard to believe?”
If you put it like that, no it’s not hard to believe. However, the claims like “God made the universe”, “Some guy made a whole sea split into two”, talking snakes, illogical and sadistic yet allloving and benevolent all powerful entity creating a universe… kinda makes one wonder…
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@190 “I must say that I personally see God in everything”
Paranoia?
@198 Proponent of Intelligent Falling – with an appeal to autorithy and an appeal to ignorance as argument
“I think that we should be intellectually open to the idea that some aspects of falling are better explained by a divine mover who occasionally intervenes in objects’ natural trajectories, causing them to fall in a manner that is in accordance with His divine will”
So, as His Noodly Holliness has a lot more arms than Yahvé – who has between 0 and 2 of them- I should imagine that you are proposing the FSM as that “divine mover”, aren’t you?
(Should I invoke here Poe’s law?)
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Yeah, I’ve seen gravity.
But you won’t see the rock hit your head.
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@ – Niteshade, & – Insightful Ape, &- ex-Possible Convert, & – daqq, &
All other Pastafarians,
We got a very nice mention in the New York Times yesterday, and I’d like to snare it with all of you:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/us/27atheist.html?_r=2&hp
RAmen
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@ plumberbob #209
That article made me smile (except that poll about voting/marriage, but it’s not really surprising).
RAmen,
Sarah
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@ plumberbob: Thanks for sharing.
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581 words of absolute meaningless bullshit.
Piss off
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ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER
MAY YOU BE TOUCHED BY HIS NOODELY APPENDAGE
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ok yes i have seen a brian, i have seen factual pictures of it and thus have good reason to say it exist.
and thought i havent SEEN gravity i can observe the effct and assume its their.
where god, i havent seen him and i havent seen his DIRECT actions affect the world so i cannot assume he exist
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Hey, what’s that? A Christian with proper orthography! And he replaces hate with self-righteousness and arrogance, almost making up for a charming lack of humor…
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@ plumberbob,
I sent a message to the author of the NYT article to straighten her out about whether or not the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a “spoof on religion.” I was sure she would be pleased to know that, in fact, there is a Divine FSM who touches us with His Noodly Appendage. It’s strange that I have yet had a reply. Maybe tomorrow…….
RAmen
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” Jesus Christ died for you and took the punishment of your sin so you don’t have to go to hell!!! Is that so hard to believe?”
Yes, that is very hard to believe. God said “I have taken offense to your following the very nature I gave you, so the only way I see for me to not torture you eternally in my own special dungeon is to knock up some virgin, then have you torture and kill my son.”
Riiiiiight.
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Good Stuff. Pass the Parmesan, Amen.
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If you can make the case for your religion without a single Bible reference, then I’d like to hear it. Otherwise, you are guilty of circular logic. For example: “The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27) so we know that God is not a flying spaghetti monster.” This argument is not at all convincing to anyone who is not Christian, and therefore does not believe in the Bible, and therefore won’t take the Bible’s word for anything. If you want to prove that God exists, prove it some other way; only then can you quote the Bible, because only then will there be evidence that the Bible can be trusted.
I have not seen my heart or brain, but it can be proved that they are there. Gravity can be directly observed through scientific experimentation. And as for the soul: people have such varying definitions on what the “soul” is for all of history that you can’t define it as one quantitative thing that clearly exists. Your definition of a soul is part of your belief system, not verifiable fact.
“Salvation comes through Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone (John 14:6).” Again, you quote the Bible to make me believe in it. How do you know that? You have only the Bible as evidence.
“Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone.” First of all: I don’t find that entirely true. If that was so, than any believer would go to heaven, no matter how much he/she sinned in other areas. Secondly: even if that is entirely true: how does this add any credibility to your claim?
Part of the reason that I am not religious is that it seems to me absurd that there would be thousands of religions and only one would be correct, only one would grant salvation, and gods would be too callous to admit the rest.
I am willing to look at a religious argument if it is based on reason and does not use circular reasoning. Believers take the existence of God as a postulate, as obvious, and they always cite the “fingerprints” God leaves and how evident His existence is (in their exact form and no other). That is not clear or obvious to me. In fact, I see more and more that convinces me against it each day. If anyone could give me a reason to believe that fundamental postulate without referring to the Bible or simply stating the postulate in a different way, I would listen. But each day I doubt more that anyone ever will be able to.
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Ahhh his noodly goodness will one day reach you too my poor misguided fool, one day… perhaps sometime in the future just when you are falling asleep you will gaze up at the sky (i presume you live in the park) and cast your eyes upon the stars. And if you squint and twist your head a little you will see what vaguely resembles one of his noodly appendages (keep squinting) and then you will believe like the rest of us. Then you will know the error of your ways.
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Dear Gerhard:
I am tired of you and people like you coming to this site and telling us we are going to die and go to hell if we don’t get saved by Christ right now. This is bullshit. I don’t believe in Christ. I don’t believe Christ existed. The bible is a lie created by men to control people and manipulate others into power. It’s terrible that so many have become caught in this lie and would defend it with such hate and anger. It only proves to me that I don’t want Christ in my life. I want the FSM. He does for me what Christ does for you, so get over it. Some people aren’t falling for the bullshit. GET OVER IT.
Meisha
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HOW CAN U BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT A MAN INVENTED A FEW YEARS AGO? I MEAN COME ON, ARE U PEOPLE MENTALLY RETARDED? A GIANT FLYING PLATE OF SPAGHETTI DOES NOT EXIST, IS NOT REAL, HAS NO POWER AT ALL IF ANYONE BELIEVES THIS THAEN U ARE AN IDIOT. IF IT IS REAL, THEN PLEASE SHOW ME A PICTURE, AND A REAL PICTURE OF IT FLYING, NOT A REPRESENTATION OF IT, NOT FINLAND WITH SOME LINES DRAWN ON IT I WANT SOLID EVIDENCE
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Ben,
Show me a picture of God. Prove God has power. Provide solid evidence that God exists, and not the Bible is not proof. Can’t do it? Then this religion has as much credibility as Christianity.
Apparently you didn’t read the opening letter, the purpose of this religion is to protest the teaching of ID as science in classes.
Post your address and I’ll send you a quarter so you can buy a clue.
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Have any of you ever seen your own brain
indeed I have, I was in a car accident, and I nearly died when i was 6 years old. This was at the time I was a silly kid, and believed that your so called god was protecting me.
Have any of you ever seen your heart
Yes I have same reason
“If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” Really? that explains why a drunk driver hit our car when i was 6 and I nearly died. I have been a pastafarian ever since, and have never been in an accident, since then coincedence?
“Have any of you ever seen your soul? Does that meen that it isn’t there” A soul does not exist physically, its just something we humans have invented to examine emotion.
‘If God did not exist than man would create one’ and this is what has been done with the F.S.M. group. You have created a God and the Bible calls this idol worship”
Know YOU have created a god, and our fsm is the one who is the real one.
“The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27) so we know that God is not a flying spaghetti monster” Thats is in your bible, our god is more creative. He can make all kinds of designs, he doesn’tr have to make his own to feel good.
“would recommend that anyone who is a follower of this group to read not only the Bible but a series of books from a former atheist called “The Case for Christ” and “the Case for Creator” and from there you can draw your own conclusions” I reccomend you read the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster, its the real word of god.
“Think about it, if all the people in the world were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the ship was going down and there were no lifeboats, everyone would need a Savior no matter how hard they tried to save themselves”
If the ship was gojung down no matter what, why would anyone need a savior? wouldn’t you try just fixing the boat? or learning how to swim?
Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity
Umm no, that is historically incorrect. Christianity is a newer religion amongst many. Polytheism existed thousands of years bfore christianity, and all christianity did was copy egyption religions that started hundreds of years before Jesus.
Horus, god of sun
Born of a virgin
on december 25th
walked on water
had 12 disciples
1 betrayed him
he was crucified
3 days later he was ressurected
does that sound familiar? Horus existed 100s of years before jesus did.
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Yawn. Ben #222, you are so boring. Why don’t you come back when when you have some first hand accounts of life of jesus as opposed to myths compiled or imaginary paintings done hundreds of years after his alleged life time.
And while you’re at it, get your keyboard fixed. The caplock key is stuck.
RAMen
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I find it comical how all of you religious people who beleive in God don’t believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster! All Bobby did was replace the word God with the Flying Spaghetti Monster and everyone gets all upset! The truth is, NOBODY knows who or what God is, not if he even exists! Maybe you have a picture of God in your heads as a man, but we have all been told that he is NOT man, he is a God…therefore, he very well could be a Flying Spaghetti Monster…or maybe a pegasus or a pink unicorn. The truth of the matter is that nobody knows, and if all of you people had “Christ” in your heart, I don’t think you would be so hateful and vengful.
Thanks for reading
-Steph
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“Have any of you ever seen your own brain? Does that mean that it isn’t there?”
True, good point.
“Have any of you ever seen your heart? Does that mean that it isn’t inside your body still beating?”
True, good point.
“Have any of you ever seen the FSM? Does that mean that it doesn’t fly around invisible bestowing greatness with his Noodly Appendage?”
So true, great point. I see the light. FSM, bring me home!
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Guys, you all need to chill ESPECIALLY you over zealous, angry Christians. Even though I’m not personally a christian i think that we all know that this religion was just made up to prove a point, that the notion of ID being taught as a science is FUCKING RIDICULOUS. Nothing gets solved by preaching that every1 who believes in the FSM is going to burn in eternal hellfire, plus its really annoying, and i SERIOUSLY doubt any1 wants to hear that SERIOUSLY negative attitude. You Christians believe what you want and let everyone else believe what they want. It’s actually very ironic that Christians want everyone to be so conformist, when 2000 years ago Christians were the “FSMists” of the time.
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Your logic further proves the existence of the flying spaghetti monster!
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#190 – Karen
You see god in everything do you?
Oh look at that wonderful sunrise – it is god at work. No it’s not: it is a huge, 800000 mile wide, fusion reaction converting 4 million tons of hydrogen a second into energy 93 million miles away (physics). The light travels all the way to us in 8 minutes and enters our atmosphere in such a way that the blue light is scattered (physics) and we see a lovely red sun (physics). The blue sky is the result of the scattered blue light from the sun (physics). The beautiful, puffy clouds are not god at work but evaporated (suns energy) water condensing (physics). The beautiful green grass (chloroplast) waves in the wind (earth rotation and suns energy). That human you e-spy in the distance an evolved (biology) animal (much the same as other apes) with an advanced survival computer (brain) which has reached a point in its evolution where it has the ability to think And what are you doing with this amazing ability? “Oh, I see god in everything. I don’t need to know what things really are and how things really work. It is all god.” So much easier than actually questioning the universe and finding out it’s true purpose and workings. Perhaps some education would not go amiss.
Also, we may not be able to see gravity but we sure feel its effects on a continual basis. We can not make the same assumption about god – all you see as a god at work has a physical, natural explanation (or will have if we keep thinking).
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I would just like to clear up something. The case for christ and the case for faith are the two stupidest books in creation. I have read them at my girlfriends church and they are full of holes in every statement. He states lies such as that science proves 100% that god exists because they found a board of wood that was from the same age as the ark so it must be the ark itself. If science proved 100% that god exists then there really wouldnt be much arguement would there. Science is not the issue here merely a grain of common sense. Faith merely means a schizophrenic belief system. Honestly if i hear voices in my head i believe in them but they arent really true. If i write them down and in a million years someone believes them than it could become a religion. He has a few points but those are easily overturned. And he is DEFINITELY not an aethiest and never was. He defines aethiest as being angry at god and straying from the path. In truth he is a brainwashed emo who likes to pose and argue with his parents religion just to be rebelious but he doesnt have the balls to actually think on his own. He says i was an aethiest because i was angry at god. That is absolute bullsht because truth be told their is no god, with the exception of the flying spaghetti monster.Argghhhh.
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reason is like evolution, just because people don’t believe in it, doesn’t mean it’s not true.
quote from CD- “Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true…”
Algebra, however is a fairy tale created by bored math majors who discovered dyslexia and torture in the same pizza party. Pizza is evil and the anti-pasta.
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Let me explain something to you you fucking moron, the titanic sunk, how many people do you think on that boat wanted Jesus Chroist to save them? Yet so many people still died, mainly because of the fact… there were not enough life boats. Fingerprints huh? How odd the only actual proof that we have god exists is the bible which was written by a council that decided what was best for the religion. In fact if i do recollect correctly, the bible was written by the same people that thought the earth was flat. We did indeed prooove this to be incorrect. How would you explain all the signs of evolution we have discovered my feeble minded friend? Dinosaurs were not created by fucking bill gates after all.
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Well he destroys his point by saying that if God weren’t real we’d create one. That’s what we’ve been doing over and over and over again since we could even conceptualize such an idea. It’s so logical yet we allow people to be irrational because religion is so taboo. People are allowed to believe what they want and that’s okay. It’s really not! You would let a doctor fill your prescription of faith or because he believes the dosage he gave you is correct. You would want some type of evidence that supports his decision making. Why is it that religion thinks they are somehow above this idea? At least understand where us non belivers are comng from. The FSM is just as likley a possibility as Jesus or Allah; probably more so as you can see that this modern day religions have man’s hands all over them.
Today I became a pastafarian =)
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Antony Flew? You say he’s one of the most famous atheists? Well, I’ve never heard of him.
If Richard Dawkins convertemd then you mgiht have a point.
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You know, I actually agree with this letter to a certain extent. Pastafarianims is a compleat load of bull shit and there is absoultly no evidence for it whatsoever. Which makes it a hell of a lot better than Christianity. There is a common theme between both beliefes; they both make no sense and have zero proof. But at least Pastafarianim creates a laugh or two. I can’t stand Christians talk non-stop about this fucking jeasus and how he’s suppost to save us all or something. Thanks a lot, but I don’t want to be saved. I have a new theory. All Christians go to hell, and everyone else goes to heaven.
Bobby Henderson, you are my idol. Finaly someone came up with absolute proof that the concept of religion itself it flawed. I give you a lot of credit for that.
I also would just like to say that I am not athiest and do believe in a god. However, this is my personal belief and I accept that there is no proof whatsoever in the existance of a god, as there is also no proof in the abstance of a god.
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psst! Not believing in your god means not believing in his punishments for “idol worshiping”. Silly compact disc
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“HOW CAN U BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT A MAN INVENTED A FEW YEARS AGO? I MEAN COME ON, ARE U PEOPLE MENTALLY RETARDED? A GIANT FLYING PLATE OF SPAGHETTI DOES NOT EXIST, IS NOT REAL, HAS NO POWER AT ALL IF ANYONE BELIEVES THIS THAEN U ARE AN IDIOT. IF IT IS REAL, THEN PLEASE SHOW ME A PICTURE, AND A REAL PICTURE OF IT FLYING, NOT A REPRESENTATION OF IT, NOT FINLAND WITH SOME LINES DRAWN ON IT I WANT SOLID EVIDENCE”
Actually, it’s not very hard to fabricate. Just build up a plate of great tasting spaghetti, pour some fantastic spaghetti sauce on top, top it off with two big meatballs, and finally [I wouldn't do this since I love spaghetti] have somebody snap a picture of the spaghetti plate as it’s flying through the air after you’ve thrown it like a frisbee. See? Not too hard. As for creating a video of such nonsense, it would be harder to show one continuously flying through the air as it would be moving too fast and gravity would take effect.
So, you see, a flying plate of spaghetti does exist, it is real, and it does have the power to either 1)hit you on the head and create pain, or 2)create a big mess of speghetti all over the floor, wall, ceiling (depending on how you throw it). Also, a picture IS somewhat of a representation of what is photographed, per se, since it isn’t happening in real time. Therefore, a picture should do when one has no idea of where you live or where you work so as to show you the awesome glory of the noodle.
RAmen!
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Are my comments going to come up any time now?
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Never mind, lol, it just did. Sorry!
RAWR!!
I mean:
ARRRGH!!
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Christianity isn’t the only religion out there.
There’s Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, as well as the Islamic religion. (And a bunch more. There’s technically /thousands of religions.) So, as they exist as possible “theories” am I supposed to believe in Buddha, Shiva, the Jewish God, and Alla as well as your Christian God?
Or if I leave one out will I be damned by the deity of the god I neglected?
And the organ thing is a lame example. Because I know my heart’s there. And my brain. There’s such a thing as science– and if I really want to prove to myself that I have a liver, I can always get a CAT scan or something. ;D
However, I can’t just call up God/Buddha/Shiva/Allah. I don’t have any snapshots in my family album. And I’m pretty sure he won’t pop me an IM.
Gravity can be proven by dropping something. There’s actual proof. The only thing your religion holds as proof is the Bible– and how do you know that is even true, eh?
I don’t want to talk anymore, so I’ll leave off there.
“I WANT SOLID EVIDENCE”
RAMEN, BEN.
Maybe when someone gives /me/ solid evidence, I’ll believe in /their/ deity. ;3
But for now, I’m content with my picture of His Noodliness and his creation of His mountain, tree, and midget.
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I’ll do what you say, CD, when I vote conservative.
Never.
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Really? Did you really use the gravity case? The consequences for falling off a cliff are very obvious. When was the last time a bolt from “God” struck somebody for lying or cheating? Many liars in fact get ahead in the real world, they’re called lawyers and salesmen. Your “God” is pure bullshit. The FSM on the other hand has touched me, he touches me when the wind blows and even when I’m in the shower….naked.
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Three things:
1)”God’s fingerprints are on all of creation and more and more scientists and people are recognizing this alike.”
Nope sorry, wrong. Creationists are the only ones trying to scientifically prove God, and none of them practice anything near the scientific process. First of all, scientific process requires that you accept the assumption that your theory could be wrong. Creationists fail right out of the gate on this one. Granted Atheists who try to disprove god make similar logical fallacies. In either case, the point is god is not something that can have science applied to it, which is why it doesn’t deserve air time in the science classroom.
2) “Think about it, if all the people in the world were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the ship was going down and there were no lifeboats, everyone would need a Savior no matter how hard they tried to save themselves.”
Actually, they’d probably all drown or those who could tread water the longest would fashion a boat out of the corpses. Faith does not save you from drowning, that has been proven more than enough times. And if you do have Faith, then you know that drowning is nothing to be afraid of. Your allegory is fundamentally flawed.
3) “Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone.”
So you’re saying Christians don’t actually have to be good people, they just have to believe that they are. This really doesn’t help your argument. It actually makes the other religions look better.
Oh, and as for your suggested readings: I’ve read the Bible a few times, and the latter of your two suggestions. The Bible is one of the larger reasons I’m no longer religious. And the writings of Lee Strobel, while an interesting read with some good points, are extremely one sided and hardly an endorsement of the Biblical God.
In Love and Pasta,
Pastafarian Taco
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I can understand why a lot of people do not believe that God really exists because of various reasons. For one, we cannot physically see Him. Two: Because of all the different religions out there. Then there are things like child abuse, murder, rape, cancer etc, etc… How can God allow these things to happen, especially if He is a loving God?
The reason we are not to see God is because He is Holy and we are not. No man can see God face to Face in this life and live. He created us without sin, perfect and holy. Because of the sin of Adam and Eve, we all became unholy to God, sinners. God said that we will surely die if Adam ate fruit from the tree of Knowledge of good and evil, and thats why they did and why we all have to die one day…
Yes, God could just have forgiven them and carried on, but He knew that they would continue sinning. Thats why He provided a better way for us. By sending His Son to die for everybody’s sins once, so that we dont have to die for our own sins!!! He was the perfect sacrifice required by God. (I know this sounds like God was cruel, but the truth is that Jesus sacrificed Himself for us. He laid down His life so that we can receive the gift of everlasting life… He said to Peter in Matthew 26:53 “Or do you think that I am not able now to call on My Father, and He will place beside Me more than twelve legions of angels?”
All we have to do is REPENT,(which means turn away from our sins and towards God) and put our trust in Him. Only those who accept Him as Lord will be saved. Eze 18:32 “For I do not have delight in the death of him who dies, declares the Lord Jehovah. So turn and live.”
You may feel that you dont need a saviour right now, but I plead with you to at least find out more about Christ. Read the Bible, even if you have done it before! This time pray and ask God to reveal Himself to you before you start reading. Only He knows you, You will find Him if you search for Him with all year heart! Only then will you start living…
I am praying for you…
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Am I the only one here that recognizes this for what it really is? It’s nothing more than a joke. Get over yourselves people. Let the rest of us have a little bit of fun. Stop trying to dictate everything for everyone else. Learn some toleration. You can’t tell me what I think or believe or joke about. Arrrrrrr.
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Besides how do you know, supposing God even exists at all, that he didn’t just create the world ten seconds ago, and then put the idea of everything else into your memory; So for instance you remember what you had for breakfast, but in reality, you really didn’t have breakfast because you were spawned into being ten seconds ago. There is no way of knowing if anything is as it seems; especially some dusty old book that was written out of translation and out of context. There isn’t even a decent bibliography to back up it’s claims with hard evidence, we are simply expected to blindly believe based on what some gangster clergyman tells to to accept as truth.
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Hey Gerhard,
You may feel that you dont need a saviour right now, but I plead with you to at least find out more about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Read His gospel, even if you have done it before! This time pray and ask His Needliness to reveal Himself to you before you start reading. Only Our Noodly Mater knows you. You will be touched by His Appendages if you search for His Noodly Goodness with all year heart! Only then will you start living…
Please be sure to bow your head, close your eyes, interlock your hands, and talk to yourself about me. I will be sooo obliged if you go through the ritual.
PS: Thanks for the cock and bull story. I’m sure I’d never heard that before.
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one question for you. how do you know god ISNT the flying spaghetti monster. just cause it says he isnt in the bible doesnt mean its true. in the gospel of the FSM, it says god is an FSM, so why couldnt he be then? and also btw, you do realize this religion is a parody of christianity, its just a joke dude, calm down
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Dear CD,
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