How can you know that God is a F.S.M. if he is invisible? If he is invisible how can you see him?
What is said on this website, in your books and amongst yourselves doesn’t change what the Bible and the real word of God says. Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true and doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences to jumping off of a cliff. Someone can easily say “I don’t believe in gravity because I can’t see it, etc..because it’s an old belief….” but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. This is like Gods laws for all of humanity.
Have any of you ever seen your own brain? Does that mean that it isn’t there? Have any of you ever seen your heart? Does that mean that it isn’t inside your body still beating? Have any of you ever seen your soul? Does that meen that it isn’t there?
The fact is that we do have souls and I heard it put this way “If God did not exist than man would create one” and this is what has been done with the F.S.M. group. You have created a God and the Bible calls this idol worship. Often times groups in the Bible would create an idol to worship because they couldn’t see or hear or touch God.
God’s fingerprints are on all of creation and more and more scientists and peole are recognizing this alike. Antony Flew, one of the worlds most famous atheists has recently said that there is a God and one who is intelligent. The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27) so we know that God is not a flying spaghetti monster.
On another note, God’s word was written because He loves us and showed his unending love for us through his son Jesus Christs death on the cross and ultimatley, His resurrection from the grave. Romans 10:9 says that “If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” Salvation comes through Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone (John 14:6).
I would recommend that anyone who is a follower of this group to read not only the Bible but a series of books from a former atheist called “The Case for Christ” and “the Case for Creator” and from there you can draw your own conclusions. If you are truly seeking for answers in life than I would encourage all of you to search for those answers and don’t just give up by creating your own religion/idol.
Romans 3:23 says that “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. That means you, me and everyone else in the entire world.
Think about it, if all the people in the world were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the ship was going down and there were no lifeboats, everyone would need a Savior no matter how hard they tried to save themselves. That savior is Jesus Christ. Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone. Once a person proclaims that Jeesus is Lord it is up to that person to live his/her life for Him.
I hope that this has been some help to all of you.
-CD
How can you know God is a FSM
Published by Bobby Henderson April 15th, 2009 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 406 Comments
406 Responses to “How can you know God is a FSM”
This…is…hilarious! My congratulations my good friends! Never have I seen such wonderfully choreographed satire do so much for so many. And look at how many people are taking it seriously even! It’s as if the weight of the deities has finally lifted off humanity’s shoulders and proudly placed our spirits and minds in place in which we can truly be responsible for our own spirituality, instead of blindly following the blindly-led leaders of the world’s religions. Oh what a blissful event this is on Earth; to share the options of options; to truly cause people to think “Hmmmm, maybe there’s something other than traditional thinking that applies;” to truly go where few have gone before: into the self. After all, what do you think “Self-aware” means anyway? A chance to look within, when you feel you are without.
Enjoy! And remember: You cannot change your life until you change what you belive.
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@ – Vesuvius #113,
Can you even read your bible? If it’s as important as you imply, you should know exactly what it says. The KJ version uses beautiful, flowery English, but it is a terrible translation. Do you know that it begins, “At a beginning…” or, “In a beginning…”? I’ll be happy to discuss the sources, language, authorship, and politics and economics of the time that it was written with you if you can follow along with me.
@ – OLO #122,
Let me suggest that you check out, “Yertle The Turtle”, by Dr. Seuss from your public library. It’s a wonderful, gentle story that children have loved for years.
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I like the way that she uses sciences to back up relligion , finally ! So your god’s laws about how we should behave are the same thing as the gravity eh ? Let’s check this theory ! :)
So the gravity is invisible …
God is invisible , so are is law …
damn you get the point there !
The gravity is a scientific concept with tons of proofs …
God or his laws are a relligious concept with no proofs at all ….
Yay , i get the point this time !
The gravity can be tested and the results can be shown with logical data …
God or his laws cannot be tested nor can the results can be shown with logical data , since you have to believe in god and his laws , plus the only persons who can be sure to have experienced god or his laws are deads and since deads cannot talk ….
guess i get the point here too …
I could continue like this but in the end I would win since the laws of an invisible dude and gravity cannot be compared … science and relligion are two different worlds .
Now let’s try with the : have you seen your heart ? part …. In fact yes , i have seen my heart , the heart of my brother , the heart of animals during my science classes , I have seen images of hearts and I even ate chicken hearts , and I liked it . I have seen brains too , but never ate brains …. its hard to get brains around here . But souls …. isn’t that the essence of life imbued in aether ? But wait ! The aether doesn’t exists , its a concept that the pre-socrates used to explain the inexplainable …. damn these pre-socrates , inducing the futur generations in error ! There again science has shown things that faith couldn’t ….
Let’s get to the next point …. god made us in his image …. so … was he white or black ? Was he red or brown ? Was he yellow or … uh …. blue ? Was he a man or a woman ? Was he tall or short ? Was he beautifull or was he ugly ? Was he blonde or maybe brown hair ? Got blue eyes or brown eyes ? Since every human is different from the other because we all have different DNA , how can we look like god ? Or maybe its just the shape … i mean we are humanoids …. maybe that what they ment by : made in his image ! But wait … monkeys are humanoids too …. does that mean that god made the monkeys in his image or maybe he made the monkeys first and thought that they had too many hairs so he created a less fury humanoid …..
And more important … how can you be sure that god is a humanoid and not a horse or a turtle ? I mean he IS invisible too … just like our deity , but that makes just our god wrong …..
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Gravity is proven…. god cannot be compared to gravity in ANY way whatsoever. You can’t BELIEVE or NOT BELIEVE in gravity, because how else you stay on the ground? Does your god help you float if you believe in him?
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You’re fucking wrong
He was there all along but man created god because they can’t stand the truth
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My comment is still awaiting moderation. What’s that about? What are you filtering out; I’d be interested to know what would get me censored here.
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@ Vesuvius I am pretty sure you are a troll but hey it’s the hate mail page.
You have not demonstrated any evidence for any of your conjecture. None. Since we are talking religion we’ll allow that since there is little evidence possible, though all the evidence on our main page with sightings and what not, not to mention the graph on pirates vs world temp or the seemingly scientific proof of our god’s power over yours with the communion test. (It demonstrates that Pastafarian communion is better than catholic…) still we’d let lack of proof pass.
What you lack that is more important that proof is logic. We hold logic quite dear. Christianity does not. Lets start with one of CD’s basic assertions. “Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone.”
While this statement is inaccurate it demonstrates one of the biggest logical fallacies of your bible. That works aren’t important you can not save yourself and you are not accountable for your actions.
Isn’t it better to say, “Hey don’t be an ass hat, you will have to answer for all your asshatterie.” See? That’s like the real world rule ‘Don’t speed and drive like a maniac or you will get a ticket or possibly die and kill others with you.’ Isn’t that better than, ‘You can’t control your vehicle and should not try just have faith in the holy steering wheel to guide you; close your eyes and know that if you should die horribly in a car wreck the next life will be full of peace and airbags.’
Take our hands off the wheel, close our eyes and floor it? I don’t think so.
(Now you are angry, probably didn’t read this and certainly didn’t think so if you are still posting feel free to ignore the above and tell me the afterlife will be long and nasty.)
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
Or read that and see who is doing your thinking for you.
-Apostate
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I used to really enjoy this mind-less hate mail, but now it is just the same old same-old.
If you fancy a break, head over to http://www.saffronplanet.net/node/81 and partake of some interesting and thought provoking discussions on evolution…
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Just a few musings from America’s northern neighbour:
- if gods word is gravity than it’s just a theory, an explanation used to explain the attraction between particles) but it can never be tested or proven, we just know particles attract.
- have you ever seen your brain/heart/liver exc. No but with modern technology we can see them inside without having to do so surgically, also are you so naive to believe yourself better than any other animal that inhabits earth. You’re a product of how your raise and I pity you for how you were raised and not realizing the truth. There is no sole in your body, its just complex chemical reactions in your brain thinking there’s one.
- learn cultural anthropology, there are many deities world wide and they somehow?? Share similarities (i.e. rip each other off) people worldwide share the same sentimentalities in terms of moral decisions not from a divine influences but thought the continued evolution of memes.
- You mistook Flew he believed in a deist god one that would sorely measure up to your god. His “god” created the universe but hasn’t done much since.
- Intelligent design is creationism, Behe has only ever tested his theory once and admitted in the write up that evolution was a more sound explanation. The teaching of intelligent design was meant to introduce “god” into science, a 1000 years old delusion should never go into a place of logical and reasonable thought.
- Your an idiot, the case for Christ argues that a 1000 year old book is accurate, that’s like saying everything Socrates said was correct. The book looks to establish the historical testimonials were accurate not really make a case. I feel sorry that you don’t know better, but reading books that preach to the converted is a rather thoughtless on your part and I hardly consider you a person able to make intelligent arguments for your “god”.
- if your in the middle of the ocean and you want a 100 year old corpse for a life beat enjoy I’ll take my chances with a life jacket and emergency beacon.
I would however like to congratulate you on a few points:
- You are dogmatic and convinced to your own delusion, I will congratulate you if you ever win a Templeton prize just because such one sided belief in ones actions hasn’t been seen in an intelligent community since Hitler.
- Also I would like to congratulate you on completely missing the point. FSM more like a theory (more like gravity than a 1000 year old corpses words), it hasn’t been proven but until it does that is what we believe.
CD you may want to try thinking in a more open manner, the only way to find the limits of the possible are to go beyond them into the impossible (Arthur C Clarke.), ironic because for you it’s backwards, you’ve been taught the impossible now its times come down to earth and figure out the possible and reasonable.
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This has to be the funniest and stupidest hate mail ever. The first two paragraphs are comedy gold.
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Interesting commentary but to be honest still drivel…one point that I did find amusing (forgive me if anyone else has already commented on this) was in paragraph 4 “If God did not exist then man would create one” Perhaps we did, 3 or 4000 years ago and then it grew and evolved allowing the genocide and defiling of other “sub-standard” religions and cultures and those that it couldn’t destroy it absorbed (Pagan festivals, mythologies of Greeco-Romano origin). Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls I give you Christianity.
I love it when Chrisitans criticse Pastafarians and then their very arguments negate the validity of their own deity.
Don’t forget to add the Basil, it adds flavour to the sauce
Wurzel
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It’s kinda obvious to me that people with an IQ above 120 get the satire here. The rest…well I guess that’s what fundamentalism is for. Funny how pasta as we know it, came from Italy…Rome is in Italy. Catholics for Pasta! A close look at the ceiling of St. Peters may show signs of “HIM.”
Peace and Pasta
J
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“Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true.”
People don’t believe in gravity? ROFL. I don’t believe in late night television.
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Note: There is more evidence for evolution and the Big Bang than gravity.
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“How can you know that God is a F.S.M. if he is invisible? If he is invisible how can you see him?”
He reveals himself to the people who believe, of course. It’s not that way for your God?
“What is said on this website, in your books and amongst yourselves doesn’t change what the Bible and the real word of God says”
We also have our real word of God; why must yours be more real in any way?
“Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true and doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences to jumping off of a cliff”
Just because you believe in your God doesn’t make him real. I can test gravity every time i want, but your God can’t be tested, exactly as the FSM.
“…but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. This is like Gods laws for all of humanity”
Any proof of those claims?
” The Bible does say clearly that man was created in his image (Genisis 1:27)”
as i suposed… quoting a book is not a proof. Saying that the bible is God’s word because the bible says so is circular reasoning.
“Have any of you ever seen your own brain?”
I doubt the existence of yours. But you should have one, as you are -only my pressumption- a human. We can see brains in other humans. We have never seen any evidence of a soul
“The fact is that we do have souls”
Again, any proof of that statement?
“You have created a God”
You created it first :p
“God’s fingerprints are on all of creation and more and more scientists and peole are recognizing this alike”
The first part of the statement is unfalsifiable. It has no scientific meaning. The second part is false -or at least dubious, or at least in a mid-term – according to polls. Anyway, argumentum ad populum is a fallacy
“Antony Flew, one of the worlds most famous atheists has recently said that there is a God and one who is intelligent.”
We don’t believe in Antony Flew. He’s not Bobby, The Prophet. Appeal to authority.
“On another note, God’s word was written because He loves us and showed his unending love for us through his son Jesus Christs”
Yeah, you don’t remember Noah’s flood? God loves us but he still genocide fast all humans. What a crappy love.
“If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”
What about following the law? I think your bible contradicts itself. Ours is much more logical.
“I would recommend that anyone who is a follower of this group to read not only the Bible”
I agree with you here; I would also recommend you to read not only the bible. By the way, why are you assuming we haven’t read it?
““all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. That means you, me and everyone else in the entire world.”
Remember that that’s not what is said in our books, and I don’t believe in yours.
“if all the people in the world were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the ship was going down and there were no lifeboats, everyone would need a Savior no matter how hard they tried to save themselves”
That’s a real real bad analogy. first, because It can’t happen. Second, because we don’t have any proof of the existence of that being, who could save us. Third: it has been people in a similar situation, and most of them drowned; if the saviour didn’t save them, why to expect he will save us?
But still we can learn something out of this: “never to be in a ship without lifeboats”
“Every other religion in the world is saved through works and Christianity is the only one where we are saved by our faith alone”
Hey, that’s marketing! Are you really saying, that between all the religions that had been around the world, even if that statement were true, we should pick up christianity because it is easier? What kind of argument is that? Oh yes, a sentimental fallacy.
And anyway, you should believe in the FSM, as we don’t have a Hell, so you can’t fail to pass the exam ;-)
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@vesuvius
“all because the bible is old doesn’t mean it is full of lies”
I agree. We know that the Bible is full of lies because the bible state things that we have proven are not adjusted to reality. Like a flat earth. Like Adam and Eve. Like Noah’s flood. Like the sun revolving around the earth. Like snakes eating dust… should I go on?
Also, it contradicts itself.
When -wich day- did Jesus die?
Who was present to open the cave, after his resurrection?
RAmen
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Has this ever happened to YOU?
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/god_makes_surprise_visit_to_local?utm_source=a-section
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hahaha all you people leaving hate mail are so dumb grow a pair of balls and learn when this is a joke obviously this isnt a religion you all act like babies do you really care if some one makes up a religion the fact that you guys all really take it to the heart says something about your self i love god and jesus christ as much as the next guy but the fact of the matter is if u believe in god and you follow the commandments you dont have to worry if any thing just pitty the people who will go to hell thats it no need to get agrressive at all its just not worth your time or energy is it
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@Catholic Jeff: I’d say that anyone who isn’t braindead sees the satire.
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Omg how fucking hypocritical r u christens!!!! the FSM is no more of a god than yours so if ur gonna criticize the FSM then go Fuck ur self!!!!!!!!!!Do you have any proof to whether or not your god is real???? I dont think so!!!! The FSM is a god to the Pastafarians as to me. and you have your God!!!so get over your selves!!!!!!!!! :)
Sincerely,a Pastafarian.
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@ Whyskey 144
If you read all the mail and all the replies posted on this site you would see plenty of comments about the dangers of Islam. However, Bobby was originally responding specifically to an attempt by Christians to sneak creationism into science class in the US, and most of our hate-mail is from Christians, so that is why we end up obsessing about it so much. By all means, if you want to start a discussion on Islam, please go ahead – it would be a nice change of pace. :)
RAmen,
Sarah
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Hey #144, we will happily accommodate Muslims as soon as they pay us a visit here, but as of now we have had no trolls identifying themselves as Muslims; all those who have volunteered their religious affiliation have to this point have said they are Christians. And yes, I do find it paternalistic when the knock on the door and say jesus loves.
While I do disagree with your point entirely, I do agree with you that Islam today is precisely where Christianity was 300 years ago.
PS: When you are done trolling the internet you may want to go do your capitalization homework for tomorrow. The teacher is going to be mad.
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Vesuvius, Bobby will never be jesus?
Boy, I guess Bobby won’t be putting curses on any fig trees to wither away because figs are not in season. Oh well. We have supermarkets these days.
With the faithful like you who needs Comedy Central?
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Adrian, the FSM is no more a joke than your beliefs. Learn how to spell, learn how to puctuate and learn not to speak on others behalf. Especially when it comes to subjects you can’t comprehend.
And as for Catholic Jeff, we can see straight through your charade, don’t try and associate christianity with the FSM. Admit you made a mistake beleiving all that nonsense espoused by the church and denounce the bible as the work of fiction it really is. You’ll feel a lot better afterwards – without ever having to put yourself through the guilt trip.
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Honestly I congratulate you guys for giving people who have the ability to make logical conjectures based on tangible evidence an edifice for which to express their opinions. This clear and humorous juxtaposition of FSMsm and Christianity is exactly what people like myself have been craving (merely as a form of entertainment since there is absolutely no way to convince a fundamental Christian that there is anything other than their belief system) and for that i thank you very much.
Plus your God is much more attractive
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i dont know how to post my own comment so i hafta reply to this one (sorry)
it sounds like to me that this was all made up by a four year old down baby and also nasdf vx……….
uʍop ǝpısdn ɯı ʍou ןןǝɟ puɐ pǝddıɹʇ ı uɹɐp
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Hey, knucklehead. Check out this site: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
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@ Whyskey #144
“what i don’t understand is why is it christianity that is always getting the full folly of shots, not a single persone on this site has said a word about isalm or the khoran”
Probably that is because it is mostly fundamentalist Christians who send “hate-mail” here.
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“God’s word was written because He loves us”. What if we can’t read?
“Gods word is like gravity, just because people don’t believe in it doesn’t mean it’s not true and doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences to jumping off of a cliff. Someone can easily say “I don’t believe in gravity because I can’t see it, etc..because it’s an old belief….” but that doesn’t change the fact that it is there. This is like Gods laws for all of humanity.”
Doesn’t that kinda help our side just as much as his? Just saying.
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My response to reading the Bible? Read the DaVinci Code instead. Maybe I missed something, but wasn’t the argument used by ancient/pagan religions that the way to reach God was NOT through Jesus Christ, but through orgasms. CD, you can keep your Bible, Jesus Christ and all that other c**p: I know which route I’m choosing to find God! (Now, if I could only find someone else to acheive one with….)
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ha. The guy who left this hate mail has clearly been reading the works of C.S. Lewis, in all of their retarded, illogical, glory. Seriously, the belief in the christian God is like gravity – wtf?!
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Insightful Ape #133
A breaded man in the sky? That made me chuckle… You’ll have to be careful that you’re breaded sky daddy doesn’t usurp the FSMs position as most delectable God :P
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Hello all.
It was St George’s day here in England yesterday the 23rd April.
I know it’s a Christian celebration but us Pastafarians don’t really mind any excuse for a celebration.
Anyway, I was driving some garden waste to the local dump with the window down and a bit of Lou Reed playing on the cd player when a big motorbike drives up next to me. I have the window open (beautiful day) and this big motorcyclist with a great big beard shouts to me ‘you’re a Pastafarian, so am I brother’.I have the FSM emblem on my car. It made my whole day worthwhile. Here in England Pastafarianism is not so well known. This was the first time anyone has commented on my emblem. It was beautiful.
So in praise of St George slaying the dragon which is just a symbol of good slaying evil I thought I would slay a little evil of my own and I made two more loans to Kiva.
Let’s not forget the good work done by Kiva.
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to #144 Whyskey:
I have never had a Musim or Jewish person knock on my door and try to convert me. It’s always the fundie Christians or the Jehova’s Witness. That’s probably why they don’t get fragged on this site. The Christians are responsible for more murders in the name of “faith” in history (i.e. the Crusades, the Grand Inquisition, The Holocaust, etc…)than any other religion. Chew on that.
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@184: When the more nutty muslims knock, they ussually use high power explosives.
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Oh, this poor misguided person! He (or she) is truly a victim of religious brainwashing, that he cannot see the noodlified light of the all-powerful FSM. He doth quote the black lies of the Christian bible as truth within themselves, never having pondered them for himself. Fear not, I shall pray for your deliverance from stale beer and diseased wenches with all my heart!
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@184: Hm, well, the Holocaust wasn’t strictly speaking a Christian initiative, it just happened to occur in a dominantly Christian region. It was just one of those brainwash-the-masses-as-best-you-can-to-gang-up-on-minorities-things. Blaming Christianity for that particular mass-murder just isn’t right…
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PREACH!…
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Dear Archbishop James Campbell, Universal Life Church,
I know your church I am a minister thought it for free on line one night and it excepts all religions it is not a christian church and if you think it is you are sadly mistaken.
But you are a funny man, a funny funny man with dreams of grandeur.
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The person who wrote this had a point. We cannot see gravity, but it is there. Perhaps the same can be said of God.
Although, I must say that I personally see God in everything. I can’t look at nature and not see God. I can’t look at another human and not see God either. He is everywhere.
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Haha, the excruciatingly obvious contradictions and clear childlike love of metaphors make this guy adorable
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To whom it may concern,
If we are to believe the bible and all the depictions of modern day Christianity, we would be lead to believe that Jesus and Mary and all the other people mentioned were Caucasian individuals with Caucasian features correct? How does that even make sense? Why were so many Caucasian individuals running around Jerusalem and the rest of the places mentioned in the bible? I’ll tell you the answer, the bible in all it’s modern day glory is not meant to be taken literally. It is a guide on how to live your life, not the ultimate answer to life. Those who take the bible seriously must learn that it is full of loose guidelines. You cannot run to it to fix all of your problems. Nor any other religious books. Since sometimes the bible doesn’t tell those in power what they want to hear. Such as witch burning, very religious process. But the bible says nothing about witches, Exodus does. ‘Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.’ So let’s all manipulate the word of the lord to suit our needs. Let’s pick and choose what stories to put in the bible and destroy the rest. Pastafarians do not pick and choose. We value all opinions on FSM. Your holy book is biased. Compiled by power hungry men. Seek the truth, and His Noodliness will welcome you.
Ramen
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See we could apply all that you said about FSM to Yahweh.
So I believe the term is…
Right Back Atcha.
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Hi Karen #190,I personally see the Flying Spaghetti Monster in everything. I can’t look at nature and not see His Noodly Goodness. I can’t look at another human and not see the FSM either. Our Noodly Master is everywhere; as visible to me as your god is to you.
As for gravity, I get to test it myself all the time. Scientist wrote mathematical formulas on it that hold true to this day. It is possible to write equations on your god and then run experiments to see if they work? Oh, I forgot, god works in mysterious ways.
Which is a euphemism for being totally unpredictable. Unlike gravity. So no, the same thing cannot be said about god and gravity. And CD is a total moron.
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The writer of this letter is giving you the truth. There are so many deceptions out there, and only one true God!!! I believe in Jesus Christ not only because of the Bible, but because He has changed my life so drastically that I can never go back to the way I was. To actually be able to know God and to see His power in my life every day… Tell me something, do you know the spaghetti monster and how is it going to cleanse you of your sin and give you everlasting life? Dont just fight with me about it, does it really make sense? Are you 100% sure that I am the one which is mislead? To all reading this: Jesus Christ died for you and took the punishment of your sin so you don’t have to go to hell!!! Is that so hard to believe?
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the first roman outpost that was set up in jarusalem was put there over 200 years after “jesus” died. this is backed up by historical records.
that just voids the whole new testament now, doesn’t it?
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Dear CD:
I don’t believe I asked for your help. I certainly didn’t ask to be “saved” and I certainly don’t want to be.
And, according to sailors I’ve spoken with, a real sailor goes down with his boat. So no, I don’t need a savior and if I did, it wouldn’t be you or Jesus Christ. I have a multitude of people more qualified to save me such as paramedics when I’m sick and the fire department when I’m in an accident.
Please stop trying to save me. I’m uninterested.
Meisha
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I would just like to mention something about gravity, since the author decided to spend some time on the subject.
I think it is important for us all to remember that gravity is merely a theory, not a fact. Einstein’s interpretation of gravity cannot be applied everywhere in the universe, such as in the center of a black hole, and it is irreconcilable with quantum mechanics.
Since the theory of gravity clearly fails to explain all aspects of the phenomenon of falling, I think that we should be intellectually open to the idea that some aspects of falling are better explained by a divine mover who occasionally intervenes in objects’ natural trajectories, causing them to fall in a manner that is in accordance with His divine will.
Think this is a stupid idea? Sir Isaac Newton didn’t.
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How do you know that “God” is an invisible space man? People of every religion make the exact same case you just did, only with different details. If all of them are wrong, where does that leave you?
RAmen
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@Gerhard #195
Yes, it is hard to believe – I find the Christian God as hard to believe in as Santa and the easter bunny. Don’t you think I want to believe Santa is real? Heck, if I believed in him, I’d be hunting him down so I could apply for a job as an elf – but I just can’t force myself to, based on what I know of the world. My experience is different then yours, as the way my brain works – is that so hard to believe?
RAmen,
Sarah
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