Comments on: Good fun, at what cost? http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:53:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Alleged Demoness http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-917634 Alleged Demoness Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:41:51 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-917634 Umm, excuse me, but you need to get your facts straight. Pastafarians are not killing or hurting anyone, the entire cause was to make a religion that can't be used as an excuse to start wars. And you also can't prove that pastafarians steal, lie, or commit adultery more than any other religion. In Christianity, all those who don't believe what you do will be tortured for the rest of eternity. Several innocent people were burned at the stake for being accused of "witchcraft" In Mormonism, a man may have multiple wives and rape his own daughters to impregnate them and it's considered god's bestowed duty to a man. In Catholicism, Everyone goes to hell if they don't confess their sins every single day, being born is considered a sin, and don't even THINK about questioning what the priest is saying. But it's perfectly ok for him to rape a choir boy or two. Any form of sexual indulgence (pornography, masturbation, etc.) is sinful if you are not married. And what does the bible say we should do? Are we supposed to bow down and kiss your ass? I think not. Other religions hurt people a hell of a lot more than we do, how dare you compare us to them. I hope you wake up one day and learn a bit more about what you believe in. FUCK. YOU.

Umm, excuse me, but you need to get your facts straight.

Pastafarians are not killing or hurting anyone, the entire cause was to make a religion that can’t be used as an excuse to start wars. And you also can’t prove that pastafarians steal, lie, or commit adultery more than any other religion.

In Christianity, all those who don’t believe what you do will be tortured for the rest of eternity. Several innocent people were burned at the stake for being accused of “witchcraft”

In Mormonism, a man may have multiple wives and rape his own daughters to impregnate them and it’s considered god’s bestowed duty to a man.

In Catholicism, Everyone goes to hell if they don’t confess their sins every single day, being born is considered a sin, and don’t even THINK about questioning what the priest is saying. But it’s perfectly ok for him to rape a choir boy or two. Any form of sexual indulgence (pornography, masturbation, etc.) is sinful if you are not married.

And what does the bible say we should do? Are we supposed to bow down and kiss your ass? I think not.

Other religions hurt people a hell of a lot more than we do, how dare you compare us to them. I hope you wake up one day and learn a bit more about what you believe in.

FUCK. YOU.

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]]> By: CrudOMatic http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-917177 CrudOMatic Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:22:27 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-917177 """I’m sure you love the ignorant hate mail you receive or the attention from other joy seeking worldly people.""" I'd rather associate with worldly people than people tripping in the clouds... eventually you will fall and make a crater in the earth that us "worldy" people occupy. Such reckless endangerment. """My question to you is, do you consider yourself a good person? On the day of judgment when you’re standing in front of a Holy and righteous God, how will you fare?""" Soo many problems with this statement. 1.) Yes, I am not only good, I am quite badass. RAmen! 2.) Your God is neither Holy, Righteous, or even real: No proof. I mean REAL proof, not the fucking bible. Crusades. Dark ages. Medieval period. Inquisition. Slaughter of countless people in the bible. Commands to murder people that now-days you would think twice about (least I hope you would) Contradictions. Double standards. Slavery, child abuse. Racism, sexism, homophobia, dictatorial standards. Negative view of everything human. Sloppy pseudo-science: pi = 3, flat earth, earth is center of universe, dragons, unicorns, etc... Non-sense BS that can't have any interpretation because it is too retarded. prayer does everything, but nothing, but everything, BUT NOTHING! Jesus and his childish, malicious attitude (Jesus kills a fig tree because it didn't bear fruit OUT OF SEASON, stealing colts, slaughtering someone else's pigs for no reason, etc...) Jealous, homicidal, genocidal GOD. ETCETERA!!!!!!! """What kind of remorse do you think you, and others you may be leading away from God will feel when they are turn away from the gates of Heaven and cast in to the pits of Hell for not repenting for the Sin we are all guilty for?""" No remorse whatsoever. I am leading them to salvation and the most tasty spaghetti they have ever eaten, with sauce that flows like wine and tender meatballs that are seasoned to THEIR taste - NOT what they are told to like - unlike YOUR God. The only sin in FSM's eyes is not liking spaghetti. """I don’t honestly believe that you’re going to reply with some miracle response that says “yes, you’re right I will repent and follow Jesus.”""" That isn't a miracle, it's a travesty. """If you decide to follow your current path, good luck friend.""" Good luck in your path with your homicidal, genocidal, sexist, hateful, jealous, FAKE God. """If you find yourself with even the slightest doubt of the certainty of your eternal soul then I suggest you pick up your Bible, read it and do what it says.""" I don't have doubt NOR a bible. I used it all for toilet paper. I smoked up much of Genesis, until I realized that the book was better for shit tickets than rolling paper. """God Bless,""" No thanks. Had enough bullshit already. “”"I’m sure you love the ignorant hate mail you receive or the attention from other joy seeking worldly people.”"”

I’d rather associate with worldly people than people tripping in the clouds… eventually you will fall and make a crater in the earth that us “worldy” people occupy. Such reckless endangerment.

“”"My question to you is, do you consider yourself a good person? On the day of judgment when you’re standing in front of a Holy and righteous God, how will you fare?”"”

Soo many problems with this statement.

1.) Yes, I am not only good, I am quite badass. RAmen!

2.) Your God is neither Holy, Righteous, or even real:

No proof. I mean REAL proof, not the fucking bible.
Crusades.
Dark ages.
Medieval period.
Inquisition.
Slaughter of countless people in the bible.
Commands to murder people that now-days you would think twice about (least I hope you would)
Contradictions.
Double standards.
Slavery, child abuse.
Racism, sexism, homophobia, dictatorial standards.
Negative view of everything human.
Sloppy pseudo-science: pi = 3, flat earth, earth is center of universe, dragons, unicorns, etc…
Non-sense BS that can’t have any interpretation because it is too retarded.
prayer does everything, but nothing, but everything, BUT NOTHING!
Jesus and his childish, malicious attitude (Jesus kills a fig tree because it didn’t bear fruit OUT OF SEASON, stealing colts, slaughtering someone else’s pigs for no reason, etc…)
Jealous, homicidal, genocidal GOD.
ETCETERA!!!!!!!

“”"What kind of remorse do you think you, and others you may be leading away from God will feel when they are turn away from the gates of Heaven and cast in to the pits of Hell for not repenting for the Sin we are all guilty for?”"”

No remorse whatsoever. I am leading them to salvation and the most tasty spaghetti they have ever eaten, with sauce that flows like wine and tender meatballs that are seasoned to THEIR taste – NOT what they are told to like – unlike YOUR God.

The only sin in FSM’s eyes is not liking spaghetti.

“”"I don’t honestly believe that you’re going to reply with some miracle response that says “yes, you’re right I will repent and follow Jesus.””"”

That isn’t a miracle, it’s a travesty.

“”"If you decide to follow your current path, good luck friend.”"”

Good luck in your path with your homicidal, genocidal, sexist, hateful, jealous, FAKE God.

“”"If you find yourself with even the slightest doubt of the certainty of your eternal soul then I suggest you pick up your Bible, read it and do what it says.”"”

I don’t have doubt NOR a bible. I used it all for toilet paper. I smoked up much of Genesis, until I realized that the book was better for shit tickets than rolling paper.

“”"God Bless,”"”

No thanks. Had enough bullshit already.

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]]> By: Mechtaur http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-913012 Mechtaur Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:49:16 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-913012 Sorry for the double post. By "this religion", I ment Pastafarianism. Sorry for the double post. By “this religion”, I ment Pastafarianism.

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]]> By: Mechtaur http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-912997 Mechtaur Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:39:34 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-912997 You know, its always bugged me how Christians go about deciding who is a good person and who is a bad person. I mean, a man could go around killing, raping, stealing, and all that, but be classified as a good person worthy of eternal pleasure because he announced some guy his savior. On the other hand, a person could go their whole life without commiting a single crime, never doing anything bad, but be classified as evil because he didn't announce himself a slave. It just never really clicked for me. On another note, I never really got why I should apologize for doing something some Magic Man in the Sky doesn't like, but he doesn't have to apologize back for the things he has done that I don't like. Also, the whole Magic Sky Man being perfect is horribly flawed by some very easy to see points. How can it claim to be perfect if it created? The act of creating shows a desire, an imperfection. Secondly, if Jess' post has an relevance, the need for glory and worship shows an even bigger desire. Also, if it was perfect, then why is it that "his" creations are so horribly flawed? Shouldn't a perfect being be able to get it right the first time? There is also the problem with his temper, which has been shown in his book. Last time anyone has checked, anger hasn't been found to be a very good thing, another flaw. Then again, the whole "perfect" idea is just a bad one, due to perfect being subjective to the person who is considering it. One person may like tomato sauce on their spaghetti, others may not. This religion interests me though, could anyone give me any better details? I may be tempted to buy the book. You know, its always bugged me how Christians go about deciding who is a good person and who is a bad person. I mean, a man could go around killing, raping, stealing, and all that, but be classified as a good person worthy of eternal pleasure because he announced some guy his savior. On the other hand, a person could go their whole life without commiting a single crime, never doing anything bad, but be classified as evil because he didn’t announce himself a slave. It just never really clicked for me.

On another note, I never really got why I should apologize for doing something some Magic Man in the Sky doesn’t like, but he doesn’t have to apologize back for the things he has done that I don’t like.

Also, the whole Magic Sky Man being perfect is horribly flawed by some very easy to see points. How can it claim to be perfect if it created? The act of creating shows a desire, an imperfection. Secondly, if Jess’ post has an relevance, the need for glory and worship shows an even bigger desire. Also, if it was perfect, then why is it that “his” creations are so horribly flawed? Shouldn’t a perfect being be able to get it right the first time? There is also the problem with his temper, which has been shown in his book. Last time anyone has checked, anger hasn’t been found to be a very good thing, another flaw. Then again, the whole “perfect” idea is just a bad one, due to perfect being subjective to the person who is considering it. One person may like tomato sauce on their spaghetti, others may not.

This religion interests me though, could anyone give me any better details? I may be tempted to buy the book.

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]]> By: Alexander 'Hypno Pants' G. http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-910477 Alexander 'Hypno Pants' G. Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:20:56 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-910477 I find it ironic that christians will keep telling us to have an 'open mind' and to do 'research' before denying the existence of God, etc. What's ironic about that, is... as Dawkins would say, 'I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brain falls out', heh... and as for research, they never 'research' as they don't know the meaning of the word, they think it's just 'searching' which would be to look for information pertaining to the subject. Problem with just searching is, you'll find yourself looking only for what confirms your beliefs... such as... if you tell a christian to do 'research' into things like how they date fossils... they will search for christian websites that talk about carbon dating(which is mostly just showing why it doesn't work... which is true, but they think carbon dating is what we use to find fossils! haha... and it's true, carbon dating cannot date fossils, as the carbon is no longer part of the fossils... however, that's why they date the sediment the fossil was found in... yes, christians are right, you can't carbon date fossils :D but they neglect the fact that you can radio date the sediment the fossil was found in! LOL!). But those sites will literally just talk about why carbon dating won't work. Absolute Negative Evidence, An Argument from Ignorance... and yet... they think they've successfully done their research and proved you wrong. When they ask you to do research, you should really do that research honestly... so go to those christian websites that show 'why' God exists and etc... analyze it and judge for yourself, and to complete the research, go to some educational sites that show why God doesn't exist, and compare your findings, the pros and cons, and how many logical fallacies you find in each category. Use this list of logical fallacies to show when an argument, debate, article, lecture, or etc... has gone stale. http://english.byu.edu/writingcenter/handouts/revision/files/logicalfallacies.doc When a logical fallacy is used, the one who has used it should be considered wrong until they can reproduce their logic without fallacy... - Alex I find it ironic that christians will keep telling us to have an ‘open mind’ and to do ‘research’ before denying the existence of God, etc.

What’s ironic about that, is… as Dawkins would say, ‘I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brain falls out’, heh… and as for research, they never ‘research’ as they don’t know the meaning of the word, they think it’s just ’searching’ which would be to look for information pertaining to the subject.
Problem with just searching is, you’ll find yourself looking only for what confirms your beliefs… such as… if you tell a christian to do ‘research’ into things like how they date fossils… they will search for christian websites that talk about carbon dating(which is mostly just showing why it doesn’t work… which is true, but they think carbon dating is what we use to find fossils! haha… and it’s true, carbon dating cannot date fossils, as the carbon is no longer part of the fossils… however, that’s why they date the sediment the fossil was found in… yes, christians are right, you can’t carbon date fossils :D but they neglect the fact that you can radio date the sediment the fossil was found in! LOL!).
But those sites will literally just talk about why carbon dating won’t work. Absolute Negative Evidence, An Argument from Ignorance… and yet… they think they’ve successfully done their research and proved you wrong.

When they ask you to do research, you should really do that research honestly… so go to those christian websites that show ‘why’ God exists and etc… analyze it and judge for yourself, and to complete the research, go to some educational sites that show why God doesn’t exist, and compare your findings, the pros and cons, and how many logical fallacies you find in each category.

Use this list of logical fallacies to show when an argument, debate, article, lecture, or etc… has gone stale.
http://english.byu.edu/writingcenter/handouts/revision/files/logicalfallacies.doc

When a logical fallacy is used, the one who has used it should be considered wrong until they can reproduce their logic without fallacy…

- Alex

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]]> By: TheFewtheProudtheMarinara http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-910449 TheFewtheProudtheMarinara Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:51:10 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-910449 Jordan (201). Not only is the drunk driver episode oddly specific, but what the hell does it have to do with religion? Since alcohol is consumed more commonly in the Western (Christian) world, I'd venture to say that most drunk drivers have been Christian. So, if any analogy is drawn, I'd say down with Christianity - it promotes drunken driving! Nick, do your own research. Take your 3rd paragraph where you take several huge leaps of faith, assuming everything drilled into you was the truth. Odds? Infintesimal. Jordan (201). Not only is the drunk driver episode oddly specific, but what the hell does it have to do with religion? Since alcohol is consumed more commonly in the Western (Christian) world, I’d venture to say that most drunk drivers have been Christian. So, if any analogy is drawn, I’d say down with Christianity – it promotes drunken driving!

Nick, do your own research. Take your 3rd paragraph where you take several huge leaps of faith, assuming everything drilled into you was the truth. Odds? Infintesimal.

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]]> By: Natturs http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-907938 Natturs Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:17:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-907938 Dear Nick, What day of judgement? What Holy and righteous God? If he tells me off, I'll tell him to stop being a bully and let me believe what I want to believe. I'm afraid I'm also going to have to refuse your offer to pick up a book and blindly "do what it says." And you got something right, one of my favourite things about this website is the ignorant hate mail. It makes me laugh. Dear Nick,

What day of judgement? What Holy and righteous God? If he tells me off, I’ll tell him to stop being a bully and let me believe what I want to believe.

I’m afraid I’m also going to have to refuse your offer to pick up a book and blindly “do what it says.”

And you got something right, one of my favourite things about this website is the ignorant hate mail. It makes me laugh.

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]]> By: Lou http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-902718 Lou Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:43:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-902718 Read the Bible? Yes, sure! It's quite entertaining actually, lots of Rated-R violence and murder. Read the Bible? Yes, sure! It’s quite entertaining actually, lots of Rated-R violence and murder.

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]]> By: ray http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-901100 ray Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:45:00 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-901100 Dear God, Please protect us from your followers. Dear Humans, If your god has you shaming, blaming, threatening and offering to kick people's heads in and the like, I'm thinking you've got you a god that you made up in your own image and it's time to get you a new one. Look around till you find a God/belief system/way of being/system of teachings that encourage and accept good people regardless of the path they're on that has them being so good. Oh, God, wait...one more thing. What's with the some of the Christians and some of the Muslims and some of the Jews? Summuhvum are downright dangerous. Like some of em's prone to violence. I think they're really missing the point, there. (I know, I know, there are other ones, but those just came to mind first.) And while I'm on the subject, what's with the poor diction/low intelligence/pushy/violent thing among the folks who say they're being like Jesus? From the stories I've heard, Jesus was a fully enlightened fellow who got killed by the mainstream for telling people to discard hatred. A bunch of Christians I've met have been way off the mark. Please do something about that. They're frightening us. Thank you for your time. Love, Ray Dear God,
Please protect us from your followers.

Dear Humans,
If your god has you shaming, blaming, threatening and offering to kick people’s heads in and the like, I’m thinking you’ve got you a god that you made up in your own image and it’s time to get you a new one. Look around till you find a God/belief system/way of being/system of teachings that encourage and accept good people regardless of the path they’re on that has them being so good.

Oh, God, wait…one more thing.
What’s with the some of the Christians and some of the Muslims and some of the Jews? Summuhvum are downright dangerous. Like some of em’s prone to violence. I think they’re really missing the point, there. (I know, I know, there are other ones, but those just came to mind first.)

And while I’m on the subject, what’s with the poor diction/low intelligence/pushy/violent thing among the folks who say they’re being like Jesus? From the stories I’ve heard, Jesus was a fully enlightened fellow who got killed by the mainstream for telling people to discard hatred. A bunch of Christians I’ve met have been way off the mark. Please do something about that. They’re frightening us.
Thank you for your time.
Love,
Ray

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]]> By: Chubaca http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-888248 Chubaca Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:15:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-888248 Was this guy the drunk driver or the victim? Was this guy the drunk driver or the victim?

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]]> By: Godlessblogger http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-877329 Godlessblogger Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:26:57 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-877329 Nick, kindly go fuck yourself. Nick, kindly go fuck yourself.

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]]> By: dybydx http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-874889 dybydx Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:19:52 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-874889 The problem Atheists have with proving their logical point about the existance of god is that the retort always comes with such an illogical statement of pseudo-facts that we are quite often dumbfounded by the blind stupidity being shown by our fellow humans. If I believed that 1+1 = 340 then I would be called stupid, but if enough people believed that 1+1 = 340 then the person calling the collective stupid would no doubtedly be called a trouble maker or indeed an idiot themselves. Just because a collective believes something is true doesnt necessarily mean that it is true. So in a case with numbers we see a certain misconsception of a natural system that is tangable. Let us take it onto a human written subject. Humans are prone to err. So in a text that was -TRANSLATED- whereupon ambiguous words could easily be taken the 'wrong' way are mistranslated, what type of fool must believe so blindly in such a text and not expectin the slightest to be thought of as an idiot. But of course this oh so wonderful text has clauses for us hard hearted logical thinkers which this marvellous god seems to despise. I did not think hate was such a divine attribute. I am not trying to tell you there isnt a god, I am just trying to show a clean logical argument for faith in a man made text. Interestingly enough, this faith based apon an ancient text is so stubborn and illogical that sects of it will forbid the use of condoms, despite one of the most devastating diseases in this world being transmitted by procreation. Logic will prevail. The problem Atheists have with proving their logical point about the existance of god is that the retort always comes with such an illogical statement of pseudo-facts that we are quite often dumbfounded by the blind stupidity being shown by our fellow humans.

If I believed that 1+1 = 340 then I would be called stupid, but if enough people believed that 1+1 = 340 then the person calling the collective stupid would no doubtedly be called a trouble maker or indeed an idiot themselves. Just because a collective believes something is true doesnt necessarily mean that it is true. So in a case with numbers we see a certain misconsception of a natural system that is tangable. Let us take it onto a human written subject. Humans are prone to err. So in a text that was -TRANSLATED- whereupon ambiguous words could easily be taken the ‘wrong’ way are mistranslated, what type of fool must believe so blindly in such a text and not expectin the slightest to be thought of as an idiot. But of course this oh so wonderful text has clauses for us hard hearted logical thinkers which this marvellous god seems to despise. I did not think hate was such a divine attribute. I am not trying to tell you there isnt a god, I am just trying to show a clean logical argument for faith in a man made text.

Interestingly enough, this faith based apon an ancient text is so stubborn and illogical that sects of it will forbid the use of condoms, despite one of the most devastating diseases in this world being transmitted by procreation.

Logic will prevail.

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]]> By: Izzy http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-874829 Izzy Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:23:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-874829 If "god" is all knowing, he would see past our foolish ignorance he will send us all to heaven. If i remember correctly from a really boring chapel service "you must forgive everyone for their wrongful sins" implying that judging is not welcome in any religion due to that fact that judging would be considered as sinful, therefor making God a sinner of his own religion, therefor he should be punished by people not believing in his religion. By the way what date is "judgement day" Also the bible isnt what its cracked up to be. But its really fun to colour in. lol Rock on Flying Spag-Bog monster. Shame my Religion teacher doesnt allow me to do an assignment on the FSM. Where is the proof that god is real. then i might consider If “god” is all knowing, he would see past our foolish ignorance he will send us all to heaven. If i remember correctly from a really boring chapel service “you must forgive everyone for their wrongful sins” implying that judging is not welcome in any religion due to that fact that judging would be considered as sinful, therefor making God a sinner of his own religion, therefor he should be punished by people not believing in his religion.

By the way what date is “judgement day”
Also the bible isnt what its cracked up to be. But its really fun to colour in. lol

Rock on Flying Spag-Bog monster. Shame my Religion teacher doesnt allow me to do an assignment on the FSM.

Where is the proof that god is real. then i might consider

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]]> By: James http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871975 James Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:57:35 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871975 zombie jesus judges you!!! zombie jesus judges you!!!

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]]> By: randi http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871637 randi Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:32:21 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871637 Honestly, the people who run websites like this and support the flying spaghetti monster, do so as a parody, we dont honestly beleive a monster of noodles created life. It is making fun of all the people who believe in God, the one all knowing being that supposedly created everything there ever was. People running websites like this dont worry about that time at the pearly gates in front of god, because they dont beleive it will ever happen! THERE IS NO GOD! Honestly, the people who run websites like this and support the flying spaghetti monster, do so as a parody, we dont honestly beleive a monster of noodles created life. It is making fun of all the people who believe in God, the one all knowing being that supposedly created everything there ever was. People running websites like this dont worry about that time at the pearly gates in front of god, because they dont beleive it will ever happen! THERE IS NO GOD!

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]]> By: plumberbob http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871397 plumberbob Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:31:15 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871397 @ 231 - theFewtheProudtheMarinara - , I'm only interested in the part written in Hebrew that I can read. The Greek part that was conveniently lost after Jerome translated it all into Latin, I've never been able to read. The original Hebrew was as political a document as any that has ever been written.. It's fun to translate, and separate the parts by various authors with their known political and economic positions. Of course there are inconsistencies; with different factions each writing their own versions, and an editor having to join four "sacred" documents none of which could be omitted. RAmen @ 231 – theFewtheProudtheMarinara – ,

I’m only interested in the part written in Hebrew that I can read. The Greek part that was conveniently lost after Jerome translated it all into Latin, I’ve never been able to read.

The original Hebrew was as political a document as any that has ever been written.. It’s fun to translate, and separate the parts by various authors with their known political and economic positions. Of course there are inconsistencies; with different factions each writing their own versions, and an editor having to join four “sacred” documents none of which could be omitted.

RAmen

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]]> By: plumberbob http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871391 plumberbob Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:13:16 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871391 @ 230 - Michelle -, In my version, it's Exodus 23:19 that prohibits the cheese sandwich, and just two verses later where ,"...he will not pardon your transgressions...". That sounds pretty Gehenna-ish to me. How about that for irrelevant words taken out of context? Sorry, I've been the last few days with Dr Dembski's ID course literature from the seminary, as linked by Wench Nikkiee. The seminary students are getting academic credit for trolling and posting on our site, and I'm suggesting that Bobby charge them tuition for so using our college and the seminars we're teaching. RAmen @ 230 – Michelle -,

In my version, it’s Exodus 23:19 that prohibits the cheese sandwich, and just two verses later where ,”…he will not pardon your transgressions…”. That sounds pretty Gehenna-ish to me. How about that for irrelevant words taken out of context?

Sorry, I’ve been the last few days with Dr Dembski’s ID course literature from the seminary, as linked by Wench Nikkiee. The seminary students are getting academic credit for trolling and posting on our site, and I’m suggesting that Bobby charge them tuition for so using our college and the seminars we’re teaching.

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]]> By: Rich C http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871159 Rich C Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:26:23 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-871159 The funny thing about the haters is that they don't understand that by not understanding they're actually proving Bobby's point. Nick, FSMism is just a way of showing that putting something in writing doesn't make it true, especially in regard to religion. I've read the Bible (and studied it in college). That's WHY I don't believe it. If you don't think the Bible's stories are stupid, you're not reading it correctly. The funny thing about the haters is that they don’t understand that by not understanding they’re actually proving Bobby’s point. Nick, FSMism is just a way of showing that putting something in writing doesn’t make it true, especially in regard to religion. I’ve read the Bible (and studied it in college). That’s WHY I don’t believe it. If you don’t think the Bible’s stories are stupid, you’re not reading it correctly.

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]]> By: plumberbob http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-867527 plumberbob Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:56:17 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-867527 @ 230 - Michelle - , They made the effort to "Loot" the book from those of us who can read it; they mis-translated it; they still can't read it; they've used the mis-translation for two millenia to club us with it; they've abrogated all parts that might be difficult to follow; they added a codicil in another language that most of them can't read; they conveniently lost that codicil after Jerome translated the whole thing to Latin. Now's the time to begin to afflict the comfortable, because they have no idea what the book they keep thumping really says. They are shocked by the message of love in the last three chapters of Judges. There are known reasons why the authors and editor wrote as they did, but the men in black robes don't want the sheep to know about that information. RAmen @ 230 – Michelle – ,

They made the effort to “Loot” the book from those of us who can read it; they mis-translated it; they still can’t read it; they’ve used the mis-translation for two millenia to club us with it; they’ve abrogated all parts that might be difficult to follow; they added a codicil in another language that most of them can’t read; they conveniently lost that codicil after Jerome translated the whole thing to Latin.

Now’s the time to begin to afflict the comfortable, because they have no idea what the book they keep thumping really says. They are shocked by the message of love in the last three chapters of Judges. There are known reasons why the authors and editor wrote as they did, but the men in black robes don’t want the sheep to know about that information.

RAmen

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]]> By: Scott http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-867368 Scott Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:28:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2009/04/04/good-fun-at-what-cost/#comment-867368 OHH, I get it guys! Nick is God in disguise! I mean who else could be so sure about all that, AND be literate, hmmm?. God sure does sound a tad bitter though... -RAmen OHH, I get it guys! Nick is God in disguise! I mean who else could be so sure about all that, AND be literate, hmmm?. God sure does sound a tad bitter though…

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