What a great way to invest your time and I really appreciate your sense of humor. Sadly, there is a human emotion, or response called “regret.” For example, a drunk driver wakes up in a jail cell with no memory of the night before. He is walked over in hand cuffs to a “service window” and told he is being booked or vehicular man slaughter. It turns out he ran a red light, struck a SUV with a family of 5, killing 2 children under the age of 5.
The joy you receive running this web site is probably pretty big. I’m sure you love the ignorant hate mail you receive or the attention from other joy seeking worldly people.
My question to you is, do you consider yourself a good person? On the day of judgment when you’re standing in front of a Holy and righteous God, how will you fare? What kind of remorse do you think you, and others you may be leading away from God will feel when they are turn away from the gates of Heaven and cast in to the pits of Hell for not repenting for the Sin we are all guilty for? You have you ever lied, stolen or committed adultery within your heart?
I don’t honestly believe that you’re going to reply with some miracle response that says “yes, you’re right I will repent and follow Jesus.” Do yourself a favor. Do some research and really consider what you’re basing the fate and existence of your eternal soul on. If you decide to follow your current path, good luck friend. If you find yourself with even the slightest doubt of the certainty of your eternal soul then I suggest you pick up your Bible, read it and do what it says.
God Bless,
Nick
Good fun, at what cost?
Published by Bobby Henderson April 4th, 2009 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 244 Comments
244 Responses to “Good fun, at what cost?”
Boy, it must feel comfortable to have it all figured out. Without one shred of critical thinking, just laying back, and letting that man behind the pulpit feed you your opinions. Swallowing what some snake-oil salesman, told you once, then forcing it down other people’s throats must make you feel pretty self-righteous.
Why don’t YOU do some research for a change, and step out of this delusion of grandeur that you and those who practice your religion share. Read the books of other religions you claim that are so different from yours. I say this to you as a fellow human, and a pirate….GET A CLUE!
Anyway, clearly you are worshipping the wrong deity. May FSM have mercy on your soul
FSM Bless
Corey Wright
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Personally, hell doesn’t seem like a terrible option. I mean all the rockstars are gonna be there: Kurt Cobain, Elvis Presley, all the greats! Now, does this sound like eternal damnation, or a kick-ass party?
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@ Odddood (#135) makes a good point:
“…the closest I ever get to a bible is when I’m in a hotel room. Unfortunately, you cannot request a room with “No Religion”…I mean you can request a room with “No Smoking” or “2 Queen Beds”, why not a “No Religion” room.”
I have often thought that if the bible is in the night stand, other “religious” books should also be provided. Those bibles are placed there by the Gideon Society. I wonder how they got the hotel/motel owners to agree to place bibles in every room. Do you suppose that would work with the Koran or our own holy book?
After considering the cost of the “Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster,” I realized that I could not afford to compete with the Gideons. I then considered placing one of my “Jolly Pirate Fish” business cards in each bible when I stayed at a hotel/motel, but I decided that it might be too much like doing what the christians do that offends me – pushing their religion on people who might not welcome their efforts. I don’t know. I still like the idea of placing some of our literature in the bible. Maybe some lucky reader will be touched by the Noodly Appendage right there in that room. Who knows?
RAmen
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Well, we all apreciate ur concern, but if there is a God and he’s a nice and fair buddy, he will understand the way we think (yeah, we think, unlike some guys in the churchs out there)
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Yeah alright I’ll pick up my bible and read it. Maybe follow it’s teachings like you say. Nah just kidding it’s not happening. Why would I want to listen to stories of some man kissing another man on the cheek and the kissed man getting nailed to a cross?
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Yeah.. regret? I have none. I choose not to believe in Christianity because following a religion that pillages, rapes, and tortures isn’t my thing. Just not my bowl of soup, you know? FSM-ism, however is great. It definitely is my plate of spaghetti. Here’s to hoping you guys were picking up what I was throwing down, RAmen
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what do you think is better an athiest who does good out of kindness of a christian who does good out of fear
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Lot’s of great comments further cementing the point. Many claim to understand the Gospel and there were 155 comments all stating the same thing.. ” I am basing my non-belief of the one true God on hear-say.”
I know this, because if you truly read and understood the Gospel (His word will NEVER return void) you would realize that current beliefs are empty ideals and beliefs. I’m not forcing my beliefs on anybody, isn’t that really an impossible ideal? Even if I held a gun to your head and told you to believe in God, but I’m going to shoot you either way… you still have a choice to say “No, I’m still going to not believe in God.” God gave us free will to choose what we believe and don’t believe.
A great quote:
“The greatest trick of the devil was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”
A lot of you decided to argue the “am I a good person” question. A lot of you claimed to be good people, according to them. You know, Hitler thought he was a good person too, not only that he actually thought he was being a good follower of Jesus Christ. His soldiers had “In God we Trust” inscribed on their belts. The fact is, religion doesn’t make people crazy – there happens to be crazy people that claim to be religious! Insanity is simply a potential human condition.
I can walk up to a guy smoking pot and he would say “I’m a good person man! At least I’m not slamming heroin!” The guy slamming heroin says “Look, I’m really a good person, at least I’m not raping people!’ The guy raping people says “Hey, I’m really a good person… at least I’m not murdering people!” The guy that’s murdering people says “Hey, I’m really a good person, I haven’t killed anybody… this week.”
The point is, you’re a good person compared to who, to other people? If we only compared ourselves to other people we could always convince ourselves we are good people. If you take a sheep out into the green field it would look very white. If you took in the barn and it snowed over night, took it back outside it wouldn’t look nearly as white. Followers of Christ are called to hold themselves to the standard of Jesus, a man who ever sinned. Also, God didn’t force his send to die. If you read the Bible (made the mistake of saying “your” Bible… thanks captain obvious) you find that because Jesus was a man, he cried out to his father and begged him to not have to go through with it. He was so distraught about it that he actually sweat blood (scientifically possible.) But, because he was a man without sin he followed his fathers command and died to paid your fine for sin.
Lastly, if you don’t believe that we we’re created by God then where did we come from? I want you to create milk and honey from nothing… but you say “milk comes from cows and honey comes from bees.” Then I ask… “but where did cows and bees come from, nothing?” You say… “they evolved…” and I ask from what did it evolve from? You say “Primordial soup.” I say, where did the soup come from? You then explain the big bang theory and how it all happened. I ask “where did the big bang come from?” You say “gasses…” Where did the gasses come from? “cosmic radiation” “Where did that come from?”
Eventually that tiring paragraph leads to you saying “it come from nothing.” Right? I mean, at some point there had to be nothing and then there was “something.” Where did “something” come from?
Oh, and as far as “I just gonna live this life like it’s my only one and damn the consequences…” Really consider what you’re condemning in a follower of Christ. We are called to help our brothers and sisters, feed them, cloth, house them. We are called to take the morale high ground, to lives our lives in the standard that Jesus set for us (impossible, but we called to try so that we’re always striving for something that is bigger then ourselves.)
It is possible that you have been trained by the world to live for the moment, to live for self-gratifying things like drugs, sex, violence or whatever “feels good at the moment.” Look, show me the fruit. I look at American lives and see divorce and then movie stars (going on their 5th divorce) trying to tell people (because they are famous so they must know something) how to have a “good” marraige. I see drug lords in Forbes “top 500.” I see crack addicts raping their kids and unfaithful husbands just surfing some “harmless porn.” We are so numb to the things of this world that we have actually convinced ourselves that “just giving a little bit, that’s ok.” I can smoke a little crack… no big deal I will “never” get addicted “I’m in control.” I’ll just wait until my death bed… THEN I’ll fake God out and repent, say I’m “sorry for all the times I left it up to me to decide what’s “right.”
Suddenly, a large passenger plane is crashing through your office window loaded with fuel and you’re instantly transformed from time to eternity. I wonder if any of those people thought “I’ll put off that whole ‘being a good person’ thing until tomorrow.” That fact is, there is no guarantee for tomorrow. How many more days are going to go by until you decide that maybe you’re self-decided ideal of whether or not “you’re a good person” may not cut it in God’s eyes. You will not be able to talk your way out of it after death.
I apologize that there have been many religious leaders and false prophets which may have caused me you to sway. They started reading “how to grow a church books” and stopped reading the book that inspired them to start a church in the first place. I’m sorry that the T.V. Evangelists have lied to you and told you to send them your money (the more you spend, the more you’re saved!)
That’s why I ask you to read “the Bible” and do the research. When you do so you will find yourself in a posistion to spot the fakes, and follow the only true example which is Jesus Christ. A relationship with Christ isn’t the pastors, the buildings, the “club.” It’s a relationship beyond all other relationships. To truly know Jesus, is to truly know love.
By mocking what I’ve wrote you have simply reinforced my belief. The Bible says that we will be called radicals, we will be mocked, spit on and the “world” will reject us. To be honest, bring it on baby – I have a Savior, and he is Jesus Christ. He took the ultimate punishment for me… to save me from myself.
You’re right, I am not to remove the speck from your eye until I remove the stone from mine. I have committed every sin in the book, forgiven. Even King David (David and Goliath) who was a man after God’s on heart sinned greatly.
Whether you believe in Hell or not it makes no difference. You will be judged by a holy and righteous God… how will you fare? Faith requires no proof, no “scientific method.”
Explain to me however, how did something come from nothing? Good luck with that!
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If what your saying is only partially true, and we both end up infront of Allah, Budah, Gneshnui, Zues, Ra, or any other made up god except your god, your just as F’ed as I am, which means you wasted your time for….nothing.
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@pieman
“You want me to go…Stone a gay guy to death”
Not sure. I think he may want us to go rape some virgin and then marry her. Or maybe stone our own unruly children… Stone those working on sabbath? Stone any famous who has comitted adultery? So many things to do according to the bible and so few stones…
@Nick
“On the day of judgment when you’re standing in front of a Holy and righteous God, how will you fare?”
If he is righteous, he won’t mind I don’t believe in him. Possible answer:
1.-If you want me to believe in you, why…
a.- did you gave us logic?
b.- didn’t you gave us any evidence?
2.-Hiya Alah! Wait… God? Zeus? Ra? Sorry, I can’t know wich god are you without a proper identification.
3.-Hey! When do the fun begin? Dembsky? What are you doing here? Behe? Oops…Bush? What the Hell! Sorry, I don’t think I deserve to be all the eternity with those morons… Where is R. Dawkins?
4.- I’m going to be reincarnated in the child of a fundi family! Horror!! Maybe I’ll even write non-sense hate-mail.
5.-There is not an after-life.
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@ Nick 158
There’s really no way to respond to your post. I could itemize the logical inconstancies, give you facts that contradict what you have said, or merely point out that your absolute conviction that you know what is right and wrong and will not change your mind no matter what happens is precisely what is so frightening about people like you, but the simple fact is that you will not hear it. Seriously, just leave. We don’t invade your church and stubbornly preach to you about how you are wrong and evil; please pay us the same courtesy. Perhaps you think you are somehow helping us, but you know what they say about the road to Hell being paved with good intentions…
RAmen,
Sarah
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Nick, what a load of cobblers you write. So many words all saying nothing.
You can ask us how did something come from nothing but tell me, where did your god come from? I’ll tell you. Someones’ imagination.
Your silly book is complete toss. And if you had half a brain you would research the origins of the new testament and realise every part of your cheesus story was lifted from other, older, stories of equally mythical figures.
Remember children, cheesus, NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.
Nick, I hate to insult people but in your case I’ll happily make an exception. You are a plank.
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Hey Nick, nice of you to visit again. Most of our trolls are hit and runs.
I just have a question for you. If you don’t believe that we we’re created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster then where did we come from? How can something come from nothing?
Oh, and as far as “I just gonna live this life like it’s my only one and damn the consequences…” Really consider what you’re condemning in a follower of the FSM. We are called to help our brothers and sisters, feed them, cloth, house them. We are called to take the morale high ground, to lives our lives in the standard that FSM set for us (impossible, but we called to try so that we’re always striving for something that is bigger then ourselves.)
It is possible that you have been trained by the world to live for the moment, to live for self-gratifying things like going to church. Look, show me the fruit. I look at American lives, which is by the way the most religious among the industrialized nations, and see divorce. I see drug lords in Forbes “top 500.” I see crack addicts raping their kids and unfaithful husbands just surfing some “harmless porn.” Obviously being religious doesn’t stop any of these things. Gush, I wonder in what way we would be worse off if we were irreligious like Europe.We are so numb to the things of this world that we have actually convinced ourselves that “just giving a little bit, that’s ok.” I can smoke a little crack… no big deal I will “never” get addicted “I’m in control.” I’ll just wait until my death bed… THEN I’ll fake FSM out and repent, say I’m “sorry for all the times I left it up to me to decide what’s “right.”
Suddenly, a large passenger plane is crashing through your office window loaded with fuel and you’re instantly transformed from time to eternity. I wonder if any of those people thought “I’ll put off that whole ‘being a good person’ thing until tomorrow.” That fact is, there is no guarantee for tomorrow. How many more days are going to go by until you decide that maybe you’re self-decided ideal of whether or not “you’re a good person” may not cut it in FSM’s eyes. You will not be able to talk your way out of it after death.
By the way, genius, “something” would come out of “nothing” because “nothing” is unstable-it is in fact the most unstable state of affairs, because it has zero entropy. It happens all the time in physical world- there is non-stop activity at the micro level in “empty” space(you may want to google “quantum foam”). It is like tossing a coin and then gasping when it lands on one of its faces, not its edge. You are simply assuming that “nothingness” is the natural state of things, and that is not true.(If it were then you would have to explain why your gawd exists-if nonexistence is natural then it should apply to him too).
PS: Gee, are you long-winded.
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Dearest Nick, Thank you for shwoing me the error of my ways. I will indeed repent and my eyes have been opened to the greatness of Zombie Jesus (and his adulterous father). But most of all, thanks for infringing on my 1st Amendment rights…And oh yea, if your god is all powerful and all knowing, then free will is mute as it cannot exist as god already knows what our choices will be.
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Nick you have got to be kidding me. You sound so eloquent but your not saying anything? Where did it all come from? I have no damn idea, but at the same time neither do you, where did god come from? If he was always there, what was he doing the eternity before he created the universe? Twiddling his noodly appendages?
One thing I would love to ask you. Is this god all knowing? According to your bible he is (contrary to popular belief atheist tend to be better versed in the words of the bible then your religious counterparts). So if this god of yours is all-knowing then he must at all times know past, present and future. So by simple reasoning (which, unlike most of the Xians who come here, you seem to have a decent grasp of it) one can say that at the creation of the universe god knew who I was, every last tiny detail about my every being, everything Period. He knew I was to become a atheist. He knew why as well. Not because I thought it was the cool thing to do. Not because I am a rebel. Not because he did something bad to me and now I’m mad. I became a atheist for the same exact reason most religious people say they are religious: They feel god’s presence in their heart. Well I’m wrong, sorry, it’s the exact opposite: I feel in my heart that there is no god Period. So tell me please. Why would your god, knowing that the only reason I don’t believe is because I don’t have this feeling in my chest, not just put a small spark in there so that at least I have a fighting chance? Why condemn me to hell when he KNEW what it is that I will believe? I would honestly love to know this.
One other thing I would truly love to have explained to me is the way your god acted in the old testament. Please you seem to be both well versed in the bible and also not as fanatical as your counterparts. Namely if you could explain one thing to me that has been bothering me for some time now being as how it hits close to home is Numbers 25. In that passage your god orders all those who have married, lain with, got pregnant by someone outside of the israelites clan to be executed. the first being a israelite man, his wife a midianitish woman and their unborn child. They were impaled with a spear before moses. They even went as far as impaling the womb to make sure that the child is killed. For one that sounds like like abortion but I’ll let that one slide. But your god murdered a man and woman and their only sin was they loved each other and were from different tribes? And he also murdered a baby whose only sin was being conceived? How can you call a god who does that a loving god? I honestly cannot fathom that. And it does not matter that he sent his son to die for our sins. Your god still did that and honestly that can never be forgiven. Ever. No matter how many of how children he sends to the cross. Please I truly would love to know your take on that. You can even email me @ bknyc85@yahoo.com but I would truly love to try to understand your point as to how and more importantly why I should ever love a god such as that.
As for that reference to 9/11. Do not ever post shit like that again. I was in NY when that happened and now I’m fighting in a war because of it. And you know what IT is? Its the belief that some higher power will reward you for doing his work. Weather it be converting others or slaughtering them. We may be wrong and we may go to hell but we atheists have never and will never murder, torture or go to war, in the name of a belief. Which in and of itself, would make the world a better place.
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@Nick
“I know this, because if you truly read and understood the Gospel (His word will NEVER return void) you would realize that current beliefs are empty ideals and beliefs”
Because, obviously, your interpretation of the gospel is the right one, we all are wrong. How silly of us!
“I’m not forcing my beliefs on anybody, isn’t that really an impossible ideal?”
Nope. You do that every day indoctrinating children at churches.
“God gave us free will to choose what we believe and don’t believe.”
You can’t prove that.
“The greatest trick of the devil was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”
Well, the devil is suposed to be a creation of god, isn’t it? On another hand, your God also did a pretty good job convincing the world that he don’t exist.
“A lot of you claimed to be good people, according to them”
Yep. And you are not anyone to judge us, thanks.
“The point is, you’re a good person compared to who, to other people?”
Not. Compared to the ideal, of course. Exactly like a christian, but we don’t need to humanize an ideal. That’s pretty childish.
You are also not doing a good point here, as we still are better people than most of your xtians.
“he cried out to his father and begged him to not have to go through with it” Any proof? He also knew that he would be resurrected in 3 days and then be all the eternity with his father, an easy deal, isn’t it? I think Prometheus was much more of a heroe than Jesus
“Lastly, if you don’t believe that we we’re created by God then where did we come from?”
The FSM, of course. What a silly question there. Why do you think we have to choose between “nothing” and your particular version of the Abrahamic God?
(I love the answer of Insightful Ape about quantum foam there)
Also, you don’t have any idea about cosmology, have you? and where did your god come from? Yeah, he’s eternal… so why couldn’t matter be eternal?
“Really consider what you’re condemning in a follower of Christ. We are called to help our brothers and sisters…”
We are not condemning that. I know there are good christians. I’m condemning his right to push their twisted and hypocritical morals upon us. Pro-life, safe sex is no sex, marriage forever, no contraception, no investigation with mother cells… We are condemning his try to use an old book as an absolute truth, above the knowledge we achieve with scientifical method. I’m also condemning the fundies that kill the people around him because of a religion.
“It is possible that you have been trained by the world to live for the moment[...] Look, show me the fruit”
It is posssible that you have been brainwashed by your church to deny the pleasure -and the science. Show me the fruit. Oops, you can’t, it’s “after-life”. US is one of the most christian nations. Why are you trying to do atheists guilty of your society’s problems?
“I’ll just wait until my death bed… THEN I’ll fake God out and repent”
See? That’s what most of christians do.
I’m not waiting to my death bed to spice my spaghettis. I’m not going to fake your God as I don’t think it exists. Grew up! Not everybody is taking Pascal’s wagger before dying.
“Suddenly, a large passenger plane is crashing through your office window loaded with fuel and you’re instantly transformed from time to eternity.”
Well, they were sure that they were going to heaven with lots of virgins. A fundi xtian is not so different from an islamic fundamentalist. Brainwashing is brainwashing everywhere. I’m sure they were thinking: “We are going to heaven, we are doing our Alah’s will”
I would prefer people being able to think by themselves. That’s our fight against fundamentalisms.
“How many more days are going to go by until you decide that maybe you’re self-decided ideal of whether or not “you’re a good person” may not cut it in God’s eyes.”
As I’ve said before, wich God’s eyes? Do you really think that’s between no-god and your god? So, what if you are believing in the wrong god? What if it is the FSM (or Alah) who will judge you?
Anyway, I DON’T THINK THERE IS A GOD; I’M NOT AN ATHEIST TO ENJOY THE LIFE BUT BECAUSE THERE ISN’T ANY PROOF ABOUT A SUPERNATURAL BEING, THEREFORE I’M NOT WAITING TO THE LAST MINUTE TO REPENT AND BE A CHRISTIAN. Sorry, it simply won’t happen (though I’m opened to any further proof of an existence)
“I apologize that there have been many religious leaders and false prophets which may have caused me you to sway.”
Ok, It’s not your fault :p
How do you know Jesus wasn’t a false prophet? Jews don’t recognize him.
How do you know Muhammed was a flase prophet? How do you know that the one who wrote the “book of Mormon” was a false prophet? In fact, how can you distinguish between a false prophet and a real one?
“To be honest, bring it on baby – I have a Savior, and he is Jesus Christ. He took the ultimate punishment for me… to save me from myself.”
I don’t need to be saved from myself. I may need to be saved from people like you, and the FSM is my saviour. Bring it on
“Even King David (David and Goliath) who was a man after God’s on heart sinned greatly.”
Fairy tale. Want to speak about snowwhite too?
“By mocking what I’ve wrote you have simply reinforced my belief”
I don’t care your beliefs if you are not pushing them as laws for me. I may think that you are being irrational, but that’s not my problem at all. As for the mocking part, well, “People who don’t like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn’t have such funny beliefs”
“Whether you believe in Hell or not it makes no difference. You will be judged by a holy and righteous God… how will you fare?”
Again, any proof of that? Remeber, a book is not a proof.
P.D.: You need doubt in order to learn
RAmen
May you be touched by His noddly appendages
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@nick:
“Explain to me however, how did something come from nothing? Good luck with that!”
You first! How did God come to be? I mean, he’s really complex – far more complex than man. By your own arguments there can’t be a God without a God.
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Gee Nick (158) What a well organized, thought out, load of crap. Classic sugar coated, fucking delusional “we are better than they are”
bullshit. Pat yourself on the back, you are one of the best x-tians I have seen. Consequently that makes you a tool. Why a tool, because you have bought into the system so emphatically and so completely, that you have learned to check your logic at the door, and have advanced yourself to the position of spreading the disease.
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@Nick (#158) You started your rambling treatise with “and there were 155 comments all stating the same thing.. ” I am basing my non-belief of the one true God on hear-say.”
So, what do you base YOUR belief of god on? The BuyBull? The greatest collection of hear-say ever? Stories handed down orally for generations? How much of the Greatest Story Ever Sold is written by eye witnesses? NONE?
First of all, don’t mistake Pastafarians with atheists; not all of us area. My personal non-belief is based on logic, not indoctrination. Hard to believe that life could evolve from “nothing” over billions of years of trial and error? But a Supreme Being that always was is a given, eh? How hard is THAT to conceive?
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“…pick up your bible, read it and do what it says,”
Ok: so first I’ll go and smite some people; then I’ll show symapthy and compassion to everyone regardless of their colour, creed or belief system; then I’ll isolate myself from the unbelievers at any cost; and THEN I’ll try to convert everyone I know to christianity…
That’s assuming you are referring to some sort of christian bible, rather than the Satanists bible, or the book of Mormon, the Tanakh, or the Gospel of the FSM…
Nick, I’m sorry you weren’t touched by His Noodliness before you were touched by lunacy. You’re a pillock.
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If God really is the Christian one, and he asks “Why did you not believe in me?” I shall reply “Not enough evidence God, not enough… Besides, why would i want to be in a religion that killed millions of people in your name? Why would i blindly want to do what a 5000 year old book written by sheep herders says? Why would I want to have to contemplate burning in hell every night, and dealing with the fear that if I displeased you in any small way, that horrible, burning place would be where i would spend my eternity?”
Just to make him squirm.
Also, Nick, if you read your bible, and are doing what it says, you should be tracking down each one of us and stoning us to death. all in the name of your god, of course.
And yes, I do consider myself to be a good person. If someone wants to follow us, thats not my problem. It was his decision.
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Dear Nick:
(Geez, leave the website for a couple of weeks…)
Look, there is no such thing as God. Judgment Day is a myth created to keep you doing what the church wants you to do. The entire thing, the bible that is, is one made up story to another. It was written by people who want to control the world. The same as the Qur’an. The same as the Torah. It’s the same thing, just a different sect. These are lies and you have fallen into them hook, line and sinker. You are following one of the most orchestrated lies of all time…religion.
I don’t regret being a Pastafarian. I certainly don’t regret posting here as often as I do and further, I don’t regret calling you a pompous ass to think your magic words would cause us all to repent. I am an Atheist because I have finally seen through all the lies. The lies that perpetuate hatred against people who aren’t hurting anyone else by living their lives the way they choose. Your religion is narrow minded, bigoted, and delusional. Once you realize this, then we might be able to talk, Nick. Until then, drown yourself in your hate-mongering religion and leave the rest of us alone.
Have a good day.
Meisha
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Nick, Nick, Nick…
Do you honestly believe that exposing the logical fallacies and improbabilities of organized superstition-oh, excuse me, religion-is akin to vehicular manslaughter? I would like to thank and congratulate you for at least being somewhat coherent in your argument, but forgive me for saying that it seems to be based on nothing. The core of your argument seems to be based on the bible, the number one best-selling novel of all time; in doing so you suggest that wizards are real because it says so in Harry Potter. I think that you are the one who needs to do some research, particularly into the culture and religion of Mediterranean societies. Many of these religions have stories that show up in Christianity with nothing but the names changed. By the way, how are you so certain that you have picked up the right religion? There are many religions in this world, all of them with as much “evidence” as yours, so even if one of them is right (highly implausible), it seems that you are just taking a shot in the dark. I hope, for your sake, that you think about what-and why-you truly believe.
RAmen
P.S.: The bible has been revised many, many times, so how do you know that anything you read in it is even close to the original (which was written, incidentally, centuries or even millennia after any of the events in it supposedly happened)?
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When I am standing in front of god on Judgement I am going to give him a great big bowl of spaghetti. What are YOU going to give him Nick? You eternal bloody soul, yeah I’m SURE that’s so much tastier than my noodles – pshaw!
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Wow, that might have been the nicest, most compassionate comment on this website yet, but you can still suck my balls Nick.
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@ – Meisha, & – theFewtheProudtheMarinara, & – Zinc Alloy, & – Sarah &
all other Pastafarians,
We got a nice mention in the New York Times yesterday. I thought that I’d like to share it with you:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/us/27atheist.html?_r=2&hp
RAmen
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And thou shalt base the existance of thy eternal soul on the flying spaghetti monster
RAmen
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Thanks, bob (#176). We’re a force to reckon with.
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I love how all these ‘normal’ christians always start really reasonable sounding then quickly spiral into a case of the crazies…
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one word
lawl
You are an ignorant bitch, you know that? How about the pits of tartarus? River Styx? Reincarnation?
Not that i am any of those, but think, is your cheesus the only one?
RAmen
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This is what is most frustrating about fundamentalist Christians! They assume that anyone who opposes Christianity must be doing so out of a desire to sin. That they don’t take good and evil seriously. I can assure you I take good and evil VERY seriously, which is why I feel the need to oppose the evil that is fundamentalist Christianity.
Then he goes into the typical scare routine. “If you’re wrong, beware! For you will burn in Hell for all eternity. Better do what the Bible says.” Nick–I have a question for you. A Muslim would say you are risking burning in Hell for all eternity by being a Christian and not a Muslim. Why don’t you read the Koran and do what IT says?
Lastly, why do you think that anyone who is anything less than perfect is the same as if he were the most evil murderous villain? Is this really a realistic picture of humanity? Is it really right for God to send good (but not perfect) people to be tormented for all eternity? How can this possibly be anything other than cruel and sadistic?
– Nate
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This is the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time. Thanks for posting this bizarre attempt at emotional manipulation. Totally made my day!
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is this some sort of minds games?
u guys sound so pro. like a psychiatrist
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When you talk about the Bible, think about the history of the Bible. How many times has it been “revised” and “altered” to fit the needs of the particular generation that it was at the time. Not by “holy” men at all times might I add,but by kings and dictators as well. To strike fear into peoples hearts, so that they may live under the thumbs of these “revisers”. How many wars have been waged for the sake of this BOOK? How many people have died for the sake of their religion?
You talk about being a good person, who can call themselves a good person and you make reference to HITLER! Who had some serious screws loose and had nothing to do with religion but oppressed a whole RACE of people in the name of superiority , awfully like that of the religious crusades, the witch hunts, the puritans…
You make reference to the people who were killed in 9-11…bold choice to do here in America. So let me ask you this. How many of those people killed do you think were “good and innocent people”? How many of the god fearing citizens do you think were praying to the Almighty as their plane crashed into the towers? Where was their god then?
As far as being a good person goes, what does that really have to do with being religious or “following” the Bible? Making right choices and choosing to do things is just that…a choice. What about those priests who molested those children? Where they not god rearing men , who had even taken a vow to devote their lives to God and the teachings of the Bible? Does that make them a good person? If because they had devoted their lives to such things mean that they will reach salvation when faced with all eternity?
As far as evolutionary topics of primordial soup and what not, when it all comes down to it, we really don’t know everything there is to know about single celled organisms and how they came about. JUST like we really don’t know everything about the Bible and how it came about, what Jesus really looked like, what kind of person they truly were, etc. etc. But I can tell you one thing, we have a whole hell of a lot more evidence scientifically than we do religiously. Does anyone ever think about that? That maybe all the secrecy of the clergy and all the hidden history about Jesus and God and the Bible etc. is all just really nothing, and all these things these people have been “protecting” that for centuries is just a bunch of bed time stories made up to create a general sense of control over a people before there were any separation of church and state?
My whole point here is , that no one ever really knows what is true or not true. But FAITH is what keeps them on and FAITH shouldn’t be limited to a deity or some ecclesiastical ideal because FAITH is a choice and comes from within a single person. My own being and I truly believe if we all had a little more faith in ourselves, for ourselves rather than some “person” or “thing” that we have been “told” about, we would get a lot further. There is so much out there that has yet to be discovered about EVERYTHING including all the things mentioned above and we do not know what we will find. I must reiterate that NO ONE really ever knows what is going to happen or what HAS happened in all of it’s entirety and that, is what this website is trying to get across. The open possibility, the general point that anything and everything is possible, whether it be scientifically or religiously. All you simply needed was some one to believe and spread the word but no one will ever truly know but the creator themselves and if no one has ever truly seen that creator or leastwise any one ALIVE, then how will YOU as a person ever truly know the entire story, the entire truth?
So you forge on “believing” but not really knowing what you are really believing in and I honestly believe that unless you know the EXACT facts of what you are “educating”( and I say that lightly)a person on then one should not educate! I have no problem with people having faith, or religious views, but in my eyes you should keep those for yourself, they are YOUR views and YOUR choices and others should not be condemned for having their OWN views as well and with so many of these views being so skewed to begin with who are we to “preach” (pun intended :)) to anyone.
Believe what you want, have faith, but have it be YOUR faith and beliefs.
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These people are fucking stupid. Don’t they understand that at the gates of heaven the FSM will be the person doing the judging?!!!! Somebody should tell this guy to repent his sins to the FSM because if he doesn’t he will be casted to the bottom of the sauce pan for eternity!
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“Do you realize that the chances of your belief system being the correct one are very, very, VERY low? Astronomically low, even? Only one system can be correct…”
I disagree. They (belief systems) can’t all be right, but they can damn sure all be wrong.
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Why does he think people who don’t believe in the whimsical ways of God will tempted and turned by a plea to think about how it will feel to be turned away at “the gates of Heaven” by none other than a figure we don’t believe in. To answer the question of “at what cost?” well I should be revising for my history exam on Monday when, instead, I am scouring the internet for a much needed distraction.
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Wow. So, because we don’t follow YOUR faith, we are going to hell. Wow. You know, there are perfectly decent peopleout there who DON’T believe in Jesus of Nazareth. I have read Genesis, Exodus, and Isaiah; I would like to assume I know the risk I’m taking. If Gandhi isn’t getting in to heaven, I think I’d rather spend my time in hell.
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I don’t own a Bible.
So suck it.
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So you admit…
It’s funny.
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Dear Nick
I appreciate that someone has finally pitched a semi-resonable agrument, as opposed to the usual tumble of illieracy and punctiation voids.
However, I feel it is worth pointing out that talks of hell and eternal punishement is lost upon the majority of the pastafarian community.
Also, the main reason this site was founded was not to dissuade people from their faiths, or for a simple laugh (though the latter does feature prominently). No, the church was created as a statement of equality to the kansas educational board.
Also, I beleive that if your god does beleive that a faithful demon ranks higher than a good hearted athiest, He must be very shallow indeed.
Live Long And Prosper
-Hourglass
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I agree. You said that soo well!
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“yes, you’re right I will repent and follow Jesus.”
Oh, wait, I don’t believe in your God, I believe in His Noodlieness.
That’s too bad for me, then.
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BIBLE THUMPERS FTW!!!!11!!!1!!!1oneone
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nick. before i was touched by His Noodly Appendage, before i even heard of pastafarianism every day i hoped and prayed that god, allah, buddha, anyone would come to my rescue and provide the faith i would need for the great leap of faith i would need to believe in them. and every day i thought to myself”today’s the day god, show me the way!” god never came. the moment i read about pastafarianism it just felt right. so yes we may not believe in YOUR god. but atleast we believe in A god. and if your god is so merciful and righteous he will understand my not believing in him. i am sorry you havn’t been touced by His Noodly Appendage but you will one day and finally see the light! untill then.
FSM bless!
~Adam the pastafarian
RAmen!
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I think no one knows what really happened or how we got here. I think that were in a fish bowl with a black tarp covering it, but the aliens can see through it and we are their experiment. Just kidding.
You all have good points.
I dont think that a God who sends his own creations to hell, stones homos, and forces his own son to get killed is a great fuckin’ god. If youre a person who does good things out of fear of JEEZUS CHWIST, but not really doing it because you are kind, then what good is that? Stupid.
None of us know anything or where we came from and its not even worth thinking about it.
The way I see it, if theres a god, and hes listening to me, maybe hes just a good friend to talk to when im sad. Maybe when I die he’ll say, “youve been a good girl. K you can go have fun and be happy.”
I dont fucking knooww. When I die I’ll find out. But I wont let religion take over who I am or how I live, and I wont worship upon something no one knows even exists..
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This person definitely doesn’t get it. I totally agree with him, and the only reason I’m on this site is because the hate mail is so funny. I’m Jewish, and all of the stuff about God’s judgment doesn’t affect me. I’ll do fine, because regardless of what this person thinks, I’m not that evil and I have good judgment.
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If god were so caring he wouldnt damn everyone to hell that doesnt believe in him just how christians do. I love the way John B Huttlinger III put it in another post
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“good luck friend”
Good luck to you too. Someone as retarded as you is going to need it.
RAmen
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Hello Nick,
Yes, you’re right I will repent and follow Jesus.
No – only kidding folks – FSM is just too much fun to give up for anything else.
But seriously Nick, make sure you continue to be a ‘Good Person’ and work *hard* at not lying, stealing and committing adultery and get right on back to that ‘living water’ church of yours.
PS – don’t forget to read your bible and do what it says – we *will* be checking up on you – the FSM knows everything.
RAmen.
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