“For all the gods of the peoples are idols, but the LORD made the heavens.” (1 Chronicles 16:26).
“You shall not make anything to be with Me – gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.” (Exodus 20:23).
“What you have in your mind shall never be, when you say, ‘We will be like the Gentiles, like the families in other countries, serving wood and stone.’” (Ezekiel 20:32).
“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:3 (Deuteronomy 5:7, Judges 6:10, Hosea 13:4″
-Jerry
For all the gods of the peoples are idols
Published by Bobby Henderson January 5th, 2009 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 218 Comments
218 Responses to “For all the gods of the peoples are idols”
Give me a break!
RAmen
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More “Evidence”?
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What are you saying, Jerry?
Maybe you came to the wrong site? We can’t interpret biblical verses for you? We have great pasta recipes though!
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Dear Jerry:
That’s nice, you can copy and paste. Now run along and play gods and monsters outside like a good little boy, Mommy and Daddy have important things to discuss.
RAmen
ET
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Sorry, the bible convention is that way.
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I have no problem with Exodus 20:23 as quoted by Jerry. Our god, after all, is neither silver nor gold, but pasta, which is not excluded.
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Ezekiel’s got a point. Good thing we worship wheat and meat!
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Here’s some Bible for you:
Isaiah 21:9, I Chronicles 20:3, Numbers 25:3-4, Judges 8:7, Judges 8:10, Numbers 16:32-35, Exodus 12:29-30, I Chronicles 21:14, II Chronicles 14:9, II Chronicles 14:12, Exodus 11:4-5, Psalms 68:21-23, I Samuel 6:19, Deuteronomy 13: 5, Deuteronomy 13: 6, Deuteronomy 13:8-9, Deuteronomy 13:15, I Samuel 15:2-3, II Samuel 12:31, Numbers 31:16-18, Judges 4:21, Isaiah 13:15-16, Genesis 9:5-6, Deuteronomy 2:34, Deuteronomy 3:6-7, Deuteronomy 3:3, Deuteronomy 7:2, Deuteronomy 20:16-17, Joshua 6:21, Joshua 8:26, Joshua 10-28-40, Numbers 31:17-18, I Samuel 15:3, Isaiah 13:16, Hosea 13:16, Ezekiel 9:5-6, Revelation 7:3-4, Revelation 9:3-4, Revelation 14:1, Revelation 14:3-4, Joshua 6:21, Joshua 6:19, Joshua 8:25, Deuteronomy 12:2-3.
Have fun.
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So?
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ummmm—Jerry, what’s your point?
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Those are very nice passages written thousands of years ago by superstitious and ignorant people who had no understanding of the origin of the universe. My daughter used to say some outlandish things when she was a child, I didn’t base a faith on them.
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I don’t see what this has to do with us. The FSM is the one that made the heavens. He isn’t made of gold or silver but is made of delicious noodles. We don’t serve wood or stone, we serve pasta, it’s much tastier and better for you. And that last line is just ridiculous, every deity says that one except ours, who doesn’t really care who you believe in as long as you’re not a jerk to one another. The FSM is therefore more caring than all the other pretender deities. That makes him the greatest and most deserving of our love.
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wow, other then “-Jerry” not one of those quotes were your own words, you really can’t think for yourself can you?
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Jerry,
Which mistranslation of the Hebrew writings, that you probably can’t read, are you trying to quote from? Your last quote says something different at each of your citations. Please also be careful of your punctuation; I don’t think that any of the (mis)translations is as self referential as you have indicated.
RAmen
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Thanks for sharing Bible verses with us, Jerry! But what if we don’t consider the Bible our moral authority or even a guide to living right? That would mean your time writing us was wasted, wouldn’t it?
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Congradulations you quote a scripture that thoes who believe in FSM probally don’t consider that moving.
Instead I shall quote myself. Speak to each in there own language and in there own time to show thy point. Speak of wood to a carpenter, and pasta to a monster. If thy quote’ith the koran to a christian or the Bible to FSM than thy be short of mind or large in ego to think that people will understand.
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I guess we’re okay then! The One True Deity(TM) is not made of silver, nor gold, nor wood, nor stone. He’s made of spaghetti and meatballs and marinara sauce! (Or is it alfredo? Hmm… perhaps we have a theological question here to address…)
Even the Christians think the FSM is acceptable!! There’s nothing in the Bible against spaghetti gods!
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Don’t you have some Muslims you could harass?
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Oh, well that settles it then.
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What is he quoting? The Koran? The book of the Mormons? I don’t get it.
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Jerry,
You seem to have created an idol of words. You quote them out of context with no understanding of their source or their author or their history. In that sense, they mean nothing; you are using them as an amulet. It’s like saying “Abra-Cadbra” and hoping that the magic words will produce the spell you are seeking.
RAmen
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so your god said. so it’s part of your godhead. so keep it there. so leave us be, like we grant thee with glee
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You do realise that all these quotes are from a very silly book that we and most sensible people don’t give a toss about?
Here’s one for you, Jerry.
“Stick your bible, god, cheeseus and church up your arse” (Zinc Alloy)
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I understand why someone who believes that God dictated the bible would think that these quotes are threatening and argumentative, but it is ridiculous for an educated person to think that this proves anything at all. Jerry, I salute your ignorance.
-RAmen
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What a snore! Jerry, why didn’t you send a picture of yourself holding a sceptre, modeling a robe and sporting a long, flowing white beard. Do you look like Chuck Heston. Hope so, or fundie central casting really isn’t doing its yob! THOU SHALT HAVE NOT GODS BEFORE ME! Say it loud, with a resonant baritone, Jerry! Just like they do it in the Wizard of Oz!
You fundies are really, really pathetic!
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quoting scripture, how original. thanks.
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“There’s a sucker born every minute” – Barnum
“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” – Mark Twain
“Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.” – Anon
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Why bother sending this in? For someone to place any value in these, one would have to believe in your religion already, meaning that these only work if you’re preaching to the choir. To everyone else, they make you seem small-minded, and a bit sad.
It’s a bit like if Cheech and Chong sent us something like this:
“And the lord did say, lemme in, man, it’s Dave. Stoners 4:20″
or a Pastafarian sent you guys the Eight I’d Really Rather You Didn’ts in an attempt to convert you.
Just sad, man. If you had actually done your homework on the FSM you’d realize that the whole thing is intended as a joke.
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Congrats….you can read….
RAmen
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Why do people think sending us Bible verses will help anything?
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My scripture is better than yours. I’ll keep mine, and you keep yours. You only have ‘Burn in hell’, whereas I have ‘It’s your book, they’re your rules, YOU burn in hell’, among other pertinent saying. And my book says I’m right, YAYZ!
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When I first read of your FSM immediately I supposed that you were mocking the Darwin theory since it doesn’t propose an answer to the beginning of the first cell. Surely your Spaghetti Monster did it. That’s just the stupidity. And it IS YOUR spaghetti monster!
If I was a teacher in public school forced to follow teaching time laws, I would connect your FSM with evolutionary theory.
Supporters of ID can rationalize the way evolutionists think, but evolutionists are not rational enough to consider ID. And really, who cares! We have the freedom to keep our kids out of public schools, and we should do it!
BTW, Christians, you are planting weird seeds here TELLING these people you’re going to pray for them. Why keep infuriating them with your talk of prayer and about how God loves them. It doesn’t work like that.
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Dear Moderator,
I just meant my comment as a comment for this website, not particularly for this post (No Responses to “For all the gods of the peoples are idols”) Can you please help if find its proper place here?
~Meg
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I love the Old Testament. Like this one…
Corinthians 11:14 “Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him”
Has anyone seen a picture of Jesus with short hair?
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If god is so perfect then why is he jealous? It seems that god is afraid that people will worship other gods. As everyone knows, “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
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I can’t tell if that first comment is FOR FSM or AGAINST it. Anyway though…
1. So, that quote there basically says that the xtian god is just an idol as well
2. Who said anything about the FSM being with the xtian god? Unless ofc you mean together in non-existence, then you’re right! Plus, FSM isn’t gold or silver, it’s noodles. WAAAY better
3. Once again, NOODLES, not sticks and stones
4. But it’s NOT before the xtian god, the xtian god was fantasized about 2000 years BEFORE FSM was
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@ Meg-
Actually Evolution does offer insights into the development of the first self-replicating structures, the building blocks of our DNA, and, therefore, our cells. Check out Scientific American now and then.
“Evolutionists are not rational enough to consider ID?” No, we just don’t have a need to work in an imaginary friend somewhere to give us that nice fuzzy feeling inside.
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whatever
R’amen
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“evolutionists are not rational enough to consider ID”
Meg, you silly thng, you’ve confused the word rational with ignorant. It should read “evolutionists are not ignorant enough to consider ID”.
I agree with you about keeping your kids out of public school, see if you can convince every Christian you know to do the same! What an educational improvement that would be.
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OMG. These before meaningless quotations from a horribly mistaken book have..
shown me the light!
Oh, thank you, thank you Jerry!
I will certainly never forget these! …Like I have for everyone else who has tried quoting these freakin things OVERANDOVERANDOVER.
Because…. now, from my wickedness, I am…
HOLEHHHHHHHH!
Get a grip. That just annoys us more.
Peace,
The Wench you’ll never have
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Jerry
“If the Bible is mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust it to tell us where we’re going?” Justin Brown
Meg,
No-one has an answer for the begining of the first cell. ID supporters/scientists can offer explainations but no-one can recreate it. One day maybe science will.
I resent being told I’m rational. I’ve considered ID and decided it isn’t science. ID puts forward a theory that cannot be disproved or proved, it’s purely theology; as a rational person I don’t think it’s worthy of consideration.
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“What you have in your mind shall never be, when you say, ‘We will be like the Gentiles, like the families in other countries, serving wood and stone.’” (Ezekiel 20:32).
I serve spaghetti, praise be the His Noodly Goodness!
“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:3 (Deuteronomy 5:7, Judges 6:10, Hosea 13:4″
The FSM says we may have antipasto before him, and afterwards, the dessert trolley.
Oh, and Meg@ comment 1: Please keep your children out of public schools, as they tend to skew the low end of grade distribution.
For mine is the parmesan, and thy bologna over me hath no dominion,
Pasta Fairy-Anne
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Jerry,
Why quote from the bible? It’s a collection of myths that one cannot live by. For example, what moral framework is in place to rightly ignore such rubbish as below?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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“You shall not make anything to be with Me – gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.” (Exodus 20:23).
You will notice it says nothing of Gods made of pasta and tangy marinara sauce with meatballs, so the bible doesn’t mind the FSM :D
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Meg, I teach in a public school and my two children attend one. I’m not sure what the point you’re trying to make here is. For example, people who rationalize, like the supporters of ID you mention, are not rational. People who are rational don’t rationalize. Rational:sensible, sane. Rationalize: to find a plausible reason for one behavior or attitude (Webster’s Dictionary) There is no “plausible reason” for god. As for the public school system, I thank the FSM–and folks like Bobby who fight to keep public schools free of religious dogma–that I can send my kids to a decent school confident that no one is indoctrinating them.
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Show me a person (Meg) who supports ID over evolution and I’ll show you a person who doesn’t understand evolution.
Don’t homeschool your children just because you don’t want them to hear about evolution. The whole purpose of public education is to introduce people to other ideas, cultures, people, etc.
And what’s all this about being “not rational enough to consider ID”?! ID, by it’s very nature, is irrational. ID says, “I don’t get it, therefore God (I mean, a *designer*) must have done it.”
And, finally, would you prefer a whimsical Creationist interpretation of “the beginning of the first cell”, or would you like the truth? Do you just want just ANY answer, or do you want THE answer?
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Let’s see…hmmm..
Believing Student: “The Christian god is the only true god, and why? Because the Christian bible says so.”
Philosophy Professor, Logic 101: “You fail. That is a tautology. Go back and start over.”
Believing Student: “Who needs rational and critical thought when I have the glorious capacity for unquestioning faith???”
Jesuit: “You fail. God gave you a brain, use it.”
Believing Student: “But Genesis says I should not eat from the tree of knowledge.”
Pastafarian: “Shouldn’t that tip you off that something stinks? Maybe religious leaders have never wanted the masses to think for themselves.”
Believing Student: “But I’m afraid. Mindless conformity comforts my fear and provides feelings of superiority.”
Pastafarian: “The Flying Spaghetti Monster promises you strippers and beer volcanoes for using your noodle. And, you actually sleep better at night not worrying about enforcing your superiority down others throats…only suppers of delicious sauce, cheese, meatballs, and His appendages.”
Believing Student: “I’m afraid.”
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That comment makes absolutely no sense. I can only hope that its author is an actual christian and not a Pastafarian being sarcastic because i don’t want to believe that a fellow Pastafarian could EVER be that incoherant.
“That’s just the stupidity.” Indeed, it is.
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1) A very large explosion made the heavens. And pretty much everything else. I don’t think it’s fair for your god to claim rights to a natural incident.
2) Your god seems to want to be king of the hill. Personally I find him selfish, jealous and quite rude. No wonder he doesn’t have a wife.
3) What the hell does that mean? Does that even have anything to do with this site? I would really appreciate it if someone could explain that third quote to me. Crazy ass Christians…
4) That’s just stupid. There were a lot of gods before your fledgling diety and there’s going to be a lot of gods after him. After all, no religion lasts the test of time, just science. I’m happy to find myself in the waning days Christianinty. I would love nothing more than to see the entire religion brought down within my lifetime. How wonderful would it be to see all people free from the tyranny of the Church? Someday…
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@ Meg,
Not sure what you mean by time laws. Please elaborate. Evolution isn’t about rationalizing anything, it is about comparing, testing, and experimenting with tangible evidence and trying to understand the results. ID on the other hand is just that, trying to rationalize something that one does not understand with irrational ideas. If you wish to take your children out of public schools then that is your choice, but understand that there are very few regulations in home schooling, and employers know that.
Also please tell me how the first cell was created without saying god did it. And if your only answer is that, then who created god?
RAmen
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