this Bobby Dude needs to get a Live,A Bible and Seek Jesus as his savior! ya know i look at everything thats going on and i know that Jesus Said that this was gonna Happen this world is going MAD and i know its the End of Time,,,, Sadly Lame Men like Bobby had To Care for his own Benefit and hes taking alot of people to hell with him.
-christian
this Bobby Dude needs to get a Live
Published by Bobby Henderson November 19th, 2008 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 168 Comments
168 Responses to “this Bobby Dude needs to get a Live”
Palmer(is it the same as Parker?)I did read your comment. Thanks for using proper English. Unfortunately, though, you seem to be trying to bill your religion as science, which is no better than the average troll here.
While I won’t be trying to argue the specifics of evolution or scientific method in general (and I don’t belive you are genuinely interested in learning, because this would not be the proper way), the arguements that a religion is old, or has many devout followers, are so outdated that they are nauseating. The is no truth in numbers, or in the extent brain washed cult members will go to show their devotion(case in point: Islamic suicide bombers-Japanese kamikaze). Hinduism and Buddhism both predate christianity. And there are people willing to die for those religions too.
And arguement from history-that’s even lamer. Advances in science and technology are owed to Enlightenment, and slipping the grip of religion on power.
Really, P, arguing with people like you is like the movie The Groundhog Day-you win it, and it’s the same thing over the next day.
RAmen
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I think this is a different “Christian” than the last guy.
thu mane reeson wi eye theenk thees iz becuz uf hees gramare.
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Crap. I put together this great response, with links to info about the myriad historical hysterical predictions of the End Of The World (none of which have been right), and other links to how hell was made up over 1000 years after ol’ JC cashed it in, and witty remarks, and numerous other aspects that the man on the TV said were sure to make me irresistable to beautiful women. Then I hit “Submit Comment”, and it got sucked into the ether and blown out to Saturn. Now I’ll probably never get a date with one of those Russian tennis players.
@Palmer (#82)
What? You might want to try proofreading your next post. That – umm – message you left is almost completely unintelligible. The point that we’re trying to make, and that you apparently missed, is not that there’s anything wrong with someone having a different opinion about the origins of the universe. It’s that you should not and cannot teach religion as science. Religion is not science. It’s religion. You can’t experimentally investigate its phenomena in a controlled environment and repeat experiments to verify their results. It doesn’t even have any phenomena to investigate. All you can do with it is believe it or ignore it. You can’t use it to make a toaster, it won’t float a zeppelin, and it doesn’t stick to a refrigerator door. Personally, I have no use for it. If you want to believe in the unprovable claims of uneducated bumpkins from 2000 years ago, who claim things that if your Aunt Jenny told you happened to her you’d laugh yourself sick, well that’s fine. Don’t expect me to sign up.
RAmen
ET
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Christian you post on here a lot. You must be so bored with your religion because you know it is bullshit and deep down you know the FSM is the way for true happiness.
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Palmer,
I am atheist AND agnostic but not devoted. I consider devotion to be a very limiting irrational factor in life so I decided to discard it when I was 18.
I am not an expert but I do not think that ancient writings with very doubtful sources can be considered a theory. It is not a matter whether it sounds nice or not. It has to make sense according to the current method of determining what makes sense and what does not. Of course, if you start assuming that god existed, all powerful, and so on, based on that information, in your mind, you could rationally come to several conclusions. But this is not different to have a meat grinder process beef or chicken. It simply grinds. More to the point, garbage in, processed garbage out.
Reality is not determined by democracy. I just want facts to be taught at schools and not scary stories that require a lot of imagination and faith. If at present time, some of the details of the beginning of the universe are missing then THAT is to be taught.
Let experts speculate what could have happened and once they agree on the most likely model then include that information in the textbooks. There is nothing wrong with not knowing. If instead, in an attempt to fill in the gaps, you introduce the idea that a god created the universe you are in fact misleading the students. BELIEFS should be stated as such OUTSIDE the classroom.
Millions of people have done lots of weird things for what they believed. That does not prove that what they believed is/was real. It simply proves they were devoted believers. Your argument for religion simply goes to show how gullible human beings are and have been. Very few people want to be outliers.
By the way, religion did not come so naturally to the people. Many were killed for not accepting it and it took a huge effort in terms of money, logistics and other resources to have religion forced in many places of the world. Does a great idea need that much marketing?
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I smell a fake Xtian…unless…it’s a particularly crafty one…could there be a cryptic message in the seemingly random capitalisation of certain letters and words i.e. BDLABSJJSHMADETSLMBTCB….ummmm…
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Dear Palmer of Post #82:
Thank you for your letter. I appreciate hearing from people who are more sound than Christian 1 and Christian 2 are. Your message has been recieved.
However, I am concerned about your need to die for your religion. As others have expressed here, there are many different dogmas people follow that they believe is worth dying for. It is my opinion that this is very sick. People who feel this way need psychological help right now to clear up this mental illness. No person should die for their religion or feel so strongly about it that they would want to die. I would never feel this way about my atheism as it would be really sick of me to do so. However, I have noted that many people want me to die or at least shut up when I start making sense because it goes against the grain of their make believe land where miracles and blessings happen.
It’s nice that you wrote this letter in apology for the others who have come before you. I think that is remarkable and wonderful. Your apology is accepted. I do wish that you would take the time and patience to truly understand scientific theories before you bring them up, though…but that’s okay. One can’t have everything one wants.
Have a good day and again, thank you so much for your message of apology and concern. I still do not believe in god and nor will I make any pretenses of changing this belief. I am sure you can accept this if you try really hard.
Meisha
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Palmer,
I don’t have any issue with Creationism being taught in schools, as long as it is taught in a theology or philosophy class. That said Creationism or Intellegent Design does not belong in a science class because there is no science that supports it.’Scientific Theories’ are tested rigorously and if they hold up to the tests presented they are held on to until they are disproved. If they are disproved a new theory is formed. Many people seem to not understand the difference between a ‘theory’ which any moron can spew in everyday conversation and a ’scientific theory’. For example gravity is still just a scientific theory. They stay theories forever and are never considered fact by the scientific community.
As to the fossil record. We have successfully extracted DNA from fossils, in recent years. The first time was by Svante Paabo from a Neanderthal fossil found in Neander Valley in Germany in 1856 (not done in 1856). This shows a clear link to modern humans (through things like the mitochondria). This is a rare process because it is hard to find fossils with viable DNA. However it is expected over the next 20 years or so that a way may become available to make it a bit more common. It is a long painful science explanation. The transitional animal from sea to land has been found, all though it is a more recent find, so most likely fewer people know of it. It is called the Tiktaalik roseae. Not going to explain it a Goggle will give you like 20 articles about it. Besides all of this if the world was only 6 million years old as the bible claims we would not have fossils that are way older than that. Then add in that most Creationists claim that humans and dinosaurs lived together and they were herbivores. The simple build of a dinosaur and basic logic rules out that they were all herbivores (some have sharp teeth and claws).
Next we move on to the argument for Irreducible Complexity. I could go on and on about this. But basically it doesn’t hold up. First example was the eye which was debunked. So Creationist supporters went after a microscopic organism. Specifically the eukaryotic cilium and its flagellum, which is used for propulsion. Anyway that one doesn’t hold up either;
http://chem.tufts.edu/AnswersInScience/MillerID-Collapse.htm
Tired of typing it out. If you don’t understand it, ask.
Next. I don’t see why God could not have intended evolution and set the stage for all if it. To say that God has to have a direct hand in every step of our progress greatly diminishes in my eyes the power of God. It seems ludicrous to say that a supreme being could not foresee and plan out a map of things to come and set it into motion. Belief in God and belief in science does not have to be mutually exclusive. I find most people who think it needs to be don’t get science and find it easier to believe than to learn and question, or the other side is people who treat science as a religion, which is in my opinion the wrong way to approach science, because it stops them from approaching it with an open mind, which is a necessity.
Some people try to take the Bible literally, which I explained earlier is pretty much impossible to do. Aside from which I don’t think it was ever intended to be taken literally.
People also mistakenly assume that if they can disprove something it automatically proves something else, which it doesn’t. It defies logic to assume so, and God gave us logic for a reason, don’t you think? If say some one disproved the current theory of gravity, it does not automatically prove their theory that the reason we don’t fly of the planet that little invisible imps are holding us down with pocket change, does it? No. Evidence for a new theory would have to be presented and tested. Could you imagine the state of medicine today if we didn’t present and test new theories and have them stand up to those tests?
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@ Palmer #82,
I’m not going to pummel you about your religious beliefs..yet. But I’m going to talk about your ill concept of manifest destiny.
The good old USA was not really founded of some christian ideal of inhabiting the the continent from coast to coast because God compelled the founders to action. It was because the founders were GREEDY! Great Britain knew sending the detritus of their country here(Early England hated the Quakers and not for their religious ideas, but for the cabalistic nature of “Friends”, Wiki it!) was a big mistake, then the early colonies began asking the French about all that land they owned in the West. England had no idea that the colonists were that ambitious, and they knew that with all that land, it would only be a matter of time before the colonists revolted. Too many natural resources to be exploited in comparison to the land mass of Great Britain.
God’s role in western expansion? Why God made it OK to keep blacks enslaved raising rice and sugar in the early colonies(black slaves were resistant to malaria and yellow fever, the illnesses that were decimating farm communities), start the wholesale slaughter of Native Americans(heathens who wouldn’t let they settle wherever they wanted and had the nerve to attack settlers when they killed livestock and destroyed crops used by the NA’s for centuries. Buffalo Bill’s last attack of native Americans involved burning 100,000 acres of prairie pears, leaving the Pueblo Indians to starve to death!), and the removal of Mexicans from the Texan territories.
The entirety of the western expansion has no examples of christian ideology behind it. Just human greed.
The very idea that the US is part of God’s playbook is plain silly! Christianity being 1000s of years old does not automatically give it legitimacy as truth. Judaism had no precept of Heaven until it was borrowed from Zoroaster in 1300BC. The Muslims(Mohammad’s brother, mainly) didn’t like the business of every one going to a happy afterlife and introduced Hell into religion for balance. Christianity is a bastard mutt in the religious world.
There may be some things in life worth dying for, but I really can’t think of too many. History is full of martyrs of faith, I may admire their fortitude for dying on principle, but you wouldn’t really take a bullet to the dome for what’s in the Bible, would you. Die for a family member, depends on who it was, but not for some scribble in an old book. When I was religious, we would play that thought experiment out; if you lived in the times of Nero and had to choose in renouncing your beliefs or becoming lion-chow, what would you do?
“Jesus who?” I’d say! God would forgive me! Other than JC and John the Baptist, what other biblical figures gave up their life for the furtherment of Christianity? Bet you can’t come up with any.
As an atheist, I am more than capable of loving, caring, and aiding others that I may not agree with. I don’t need to believe in a God to give my life meaning and purpose. I may believe in the FSM, but His Noody Appendage keeps touching me in the head and doubts rise up. Perhaps He’s real, maybe not, I’ll comfortably straddle the fence! If your belief in Christ gets you thru the day, Wunderbar! Just don’t try to force-feed it to others.
Good fortune and RAmen!
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Hi! thats really tight, and I’ve convinced all of my mates to be dedicated Pastafarians! ( oh umm its life, not live, Mr. Loser). Hope all is going well, it’s nearly The Holiday!
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Some of us would prefer to get a Liv.
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Wow.
Spelling, punctuation and book-learnin’ were just never a high priority in your life, were they?
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I know I’m going to get my ass handed to me here, but I have to know:
108 – November 24th, 2008 at – Niteshade Says:
“Belief in God and belief in science does not have to be mutually exclusive. I find most people who think it needs to be don’t get science and find it easier to believe than to learn and question, or the other side is people who treat science as a religion, which is in my opinion the wrong way to approach science, because it stops them from approaching it with an open mind, which is a necessity.”
Niteshade, I agree that replacing actual religions with science as a religion is the wrong approach. In fact, I agree with this whole quote to some extent. But what I take issue with (and this is the fundamental difference with atheism and agnostic belief) is the first statement. A person with a fairly good grasp of science and logic should not believe in god in a real or literal sense. True belief in god and logic ARE mutually exclusive.
Look, what did ancient map makers write on unknown regions of their maps? “Here be monsters”. Additionally, monsters were created in Germany’s Black Forest, Lockness, outer space, volcanoes, caves, ect. There aren’t really monsters there. Logically, what does this say? To me it says that humans are very good at making up stories to explain the things they do not fully understand. You don’t know why you are on the Earth, perhaps god did it. I can’t see why god should be considered any different than bigfoot.
I think reason leads you, with overwhelming certainty, to the conclusion that god is just another one of these creations. Over the years wise leaders used the myths to keep order in their tribes, and religions organized, persisted, and (yes – sorry christians) evolved into what it is today.
Now that science can explain some of the things that the myth was created to explain, believers everywhere try to rectify their beliefs with what tested theories show. They keep thinking of ways to prove nonsense. Need further logical proof – remember, people still believe in the Lockness Monster, space aliens, unicorns, and any number and manner of creature that cannot and do not logically exist. But we can’t help ourselves, we are humans and this is what humans do.
We will believe anything; look at all the christians that come to this site. The first thing they think is that pastafarians here actually believes the universe was created by pasta. Even though we tell them it is all a parody, and we show them the letter in which Bobby created the FSM, they still think we BELIEVE in it. This is not logical.
If you are agnostic, ask yourself, would ancient peoples have created religious myths (or any myths involving fantastic, non-existent creatures) to the extent they did if they had had the science we do today back then? If logically you come up with an answer of “no”, then I really don’t get the agnostic viewpoint.
Of course you cannot prove with physical evidence that god does or doesn’t exist – thinking logically you can’t ever do that. But why even put that much logical thought into forming the question about something so illogical in the first place? You can’t prove with physical evidence that little pink unicorns do or don’t exist either, but no agnostics ever make THAT statement because it becomes a slippery slope. You would have to say “I don’t know if little pink unicorns exist” “I don’t know if the lockness monster exists” “ect.” People around you would think you are a complete idiot if you started making statements like that all day. From an evidence standpoint, those statements would be completely true, but sooner or later you have to make a judgment call and say something that cannot be proven cannot be proven because it just doesn’t exist. Not “I don’t know”, but just “no I don’t believe it exists”. I believe god is one of these.
I don’t wish to be mean to you or any agnostics; I just really want to understand the viewpoint, because right now, I just don’t get it. Will you or another agnostic on this site please explain the following three things to me:
1. Why are you agnostic and not an atheist or a believer?
2. Why do you say god may or may not exist, but little pink unicorns do not exist? (no smartasses – if you believe in unicorns then fill in the blank with another creature you don’t believe in)
3. If you are agnostic about all mythical creatures and all beliefs, then why should I believe you not just being gullible, and how is your indecision logical?
Please respond
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@Cape Buffalo
There is no hard evidence to establish the existence of many things that science considers probable. Hard evidence for anything can be hard to come by…strictly speaking…if this wasn’t true there would be more scientific law and less theory. I believe that in an infinite “multiverse” all things are probable…thus I do accept that somewhere, sometime, there is, or will be, a little pink unicorn…
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I would so much rather go to hell with Bobby (assuming christainity and all of that is true) than to go to heaven with idiots and nutcases like you…
(but we all know that it isnt true, and infact HE will be the one going to hell, with stale beer and what not)
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So pompous…
Why are you still trying to afraid us? It’s a shame that you cannot try to convince us another way. Maybe it is because you have no case for your beliefs?
Anyway, I’ll pray your God that he finally gets you back to reason.
But we both know it will not work.
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tHIS gUYS tO lEARN hOW tO tYPE.
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So…since when does get a live make sense?? Were you drunk when you wrote that. I don’t think the world is going mad, I think you mind is going crazy.
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I’m pretty good at reading people. The guy who sent this letter in is a total deuce bag in my professional opinion. Every time I see a FSM emblem on the back of a car instead of the typical jesus fish, I get a warm feeling, like an angel getting its wings.
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Is this the same “Christian” who hate mailed earlier or another “Christian”? In any case, it mystifies me why these people feel impelled to come to this website and blog their hate at us. I don’t feel impelled to go to any website which espouses their snake oil religious world view, so why do these people have such a “jones” to come to us and let us know how they feel.
Could it be because even one unbeliever threatens their fragile world view? After all, if no one believes in Xtainity doesn’t that by definition make their religion horseshit. Doesn’t their own Bible tell them that everyone will be converted (or close to it, as I understand Jesus plans to come back to earth and murder all the jews as a way of closing the books on the human race project) to belief in Jesus?
So what if no one believes? Bet it kinda makes these people feel awfully lonely in their beliefs. So lonely they have to lash out and promise bad things will happen to non-believers.
All I can say is “bring it one Jesus, bring it on!” LOL.
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This dumbass spelled life wrong. Also, capitalizing every letter makes you look like even more of a dumbass. I’m so happy you’re going to be burning in a lake of pasta all eternity.
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Dear FSM, you have some horrible grammar. “Seek” in “Seek Jesus” does NOT need to be capitalized. Also, it’s “get a life” not “Get a live”, and how do you know he needs a life? do you stalk him? freak.
Besides your horrible spelling, grammar, etc., I noticed a few other problems with what you said. The majority of us Pasatafarians are Pastafarian for the simple fact that we’re tired with all of the other religions. Another reason is it makes just as much sense as any other, but OUR religion is more fun. And dude, it’s our life style choice, so butt the hell out please.
Finally, did anyone understand the last sentence?
“Sadly Lame Men like Bobby had To Care for his own Benefit and hes taking alot of people to hell with him.”
Sadly… Lame Men… Ugh, lemme think… Bobby… has to care for himself… and he’s taking people to hell with him? wtf, that makes no sense. Why do I get the feeling you didn’t pass middle school…?
RAmen.
~(§_§)~
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If you have not seen my other comments, “[sigh] The stupid will always be with us”
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what the fuck!? somebody please…i cant believe i share a planet with people like this.
and why is it always christians leaving the hate mail!?!?!
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Wow, this guy must have failed English 7 or 8 times.
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Hasn’t it been the ‘end times’ for like 2000 years now?
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Ugh… I have only one thing to say.
FAIL
Heretic
/spits nasty taste out of mouth
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This Bobby dude needs to get a life, a Bible, and seek Jesus as his savior! You know I look at everything that’s going on and I know that Jesus said that this was going to happen. This world is going mad and I know its the end of time. Sadly, lame men like Bobby had to care for his own benefit and he is taking a lot of people to Hell with him.
-Christian
There you go. Learn to spell before you try to tell us how stupid we are.
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Oh my flying spaghetti monster. You think we’re going to hell, do you? I don’t believe in hell, so there!!!! ;-P ppppllbbthhh!
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Okay Dude,
Let me start by asking what the hell is wrong with you and by suggesting medical help.
You believe in Jesus and all that jazz if I am correct and that this ‘God’ guy created EVERYTHING and he is kind and loving. Well why did he even create a place like hell and ‘bad’ people to go in it? Hmm so much for kind and loving…
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I think they need to update the bible with a book from the patron saint of grammar and coherent thought.
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“ya know i look at everything thats going on and i know that Jesus Said that this was gonna Happen”
I could imagine that conversation, that conveniently isn’t recorded in the bible…
Jesus:”My fellow Christians, years from now, so far in the future that none will remember my warnings, a man, Nah, a DEVIL will create a “God” of his own. Made of spaghetti.”
Follower:”What’s spaghetti?”
Jesus:”………”
Follower:”?”
Jesus:”Um….”
Follower:”Lord?”
Jesus:”…. Um… Look! A flying monkey eating a three-headed fish!”
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“Why do I get the feeling you didn’t pass middle school…?”
I have a feeling he doesn’t know what middle school is…
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@ #35 Mare Lacrimarum,
I don’t know about the live ones, but the printed ones can surely poison the mind of the uneducated. check-out http://www.theauthoritarians.com for a study of this kind of person. It’s good, and it’s free on the website.
RAmen
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@ #36 Mitch,
More than half a century ago, I was subjected to this kind of brainwashing. There is a little sing-song ditty that goes something like this, “Jesus loves me, this I know,
For the Bible tells me so,
Little ones to him belong,
They are weak, but He is strong.”
Check-out: http://www.theauthoritarians.com for a good study of these people.
RAmen
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@ #44 JD,
You came to our website; we didn’t come to yours. But now that you’re here, you can probably teach us the tune to the little ditty.
RAmen
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Shut Up. You Need to get A (wtf?) live.
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It’s really no wonder that the Bible makes sense to people like this.
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Why’re there never any muslims, or jews hate mail’ing? D:
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if hes all powerful and all forgiving im sure his ego can take a few jokes. if i go to hell beucase my leader is such a bigot he can not take a few jokes then he isnt tolerant enought to be fallowing anyway
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139 – January 8th, 2009 at – William Says:
Why’re there never any muslims, or jews hate mail’ing? D:
Well, the Muslims seem to prefer explosives, rioting, or rightious indignation on T.V. (yes, the first two were very steriotyped…) The Christians seem to prefer Hate mail, bible thumping, and the Jewish people sit back an laugh at all of them
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“this Bobby Dude needs to get a Live,A Bible and Seek Jesus as his savior!”
What’s a “Live”?
“Jesus Said that this was gonna Happen this world is going MAD and i know its the End of Time,,,,”
Woah, it’s happening already! Look, you’ve gone so mad, you’ve replaced your periods with commas!
“Sadly Lame Men like Bobby had To Care for his own Benefit and hes taking alot of people to hell with him.”
Alright, I’m flabbergasted by this line, I have no idea what he’s trying to say here. So, Bobby’s going to hell for caring? Huh?
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it’s called a “life” you idiot. Learn some god damn grammar while you’re at it.
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Wow, I agree with this “christian”, Bobby needs to get Xbox Live! It’s so awesome! $50 a year for unlimited- Oh wait, he meant life. Never mind, he’s just another douche Christian.
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A live what?
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Bahahaha.
I love people who love grammar, unlike this said “Christian” here that completely ripped apart the English language in a couple of sentences.
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Why does the word “benefit” have a capital letter?
Beautiful and tasty, with just a hint of garlic and oregano, Your tomato sauce drips over Your delicious al dente durum wheaty existance. Like a moth to the flame so shall be the critics to your delectable savor!
Come feast. Bon appetite!
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YOU BITCH! Mind your own business!
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Christianity teaches poor sentence structure and grammar capability now?
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why dont you read your bible first, then let me shove it down your throat
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