I’ve tried giving evidence for God.
I’ve tried telling you the benefits of God.
I’ve tried telling you the horrors of Hell.
I’ve tried kindness.
I’ve tried condemning you.
I’ve tried offering you salvation.
My patience is expired with you all.
I have only one question for you all.
Why do hate God so much,what did He do to you to make you doubt His existence. Everything I know, everything I love, is in a Book you hate with all your hearts. My God is great, He is kind, and He is forgiving. Yet still, you curse Him with every word. Everything He hates, you love. Sex,war,blasphemy,hate,mockery, even death you love! All you do to me is mock me. You never give evidence, you only call yourselves enlightened for your lack of faith. God warns that heathens offer freedom,pleasure,and knowledge, but they are lying. I have offered you eternal life, and you have cursed me. I do not curse you, nor your choices,nor any horrid sin you do. I cry for you. I will weep in the presence of God because of you, and because i could not save of you a single soul. So, my sinful,fallen companions i leave you today with just one question. Why?
May Christ Jesus, The One True God, have mercy on you my friends.
-Christian
I’ve tried
Published by Bobby Henderson November 11th, 2008 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 363 Comments
363 Responses to “I’ve tried”
wtf? since when do we love those things? we just don’t SEE a god, we see the deity known as FSM.
can i get a RAmen?
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What the flying fuck makes you think god-whoever he is- hates sex and death. those are beautiful parts of life. i mean maybe we dont like death so much but its pretty much good for us in the long run. definately gods idea anyway. my god u scare me
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Everyone here is purposefully misunderstanding things. I’m not even christian and i find this offensive. Well i find all forms of racism offensive. Racism comes from misunderstanding and people who are too retarded to even try to think about it >.>.
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Oi, christian. Even if god did exist and was standing right in front of me, I HAVE NO NEED OF HIM or his loony followers. get a life.
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How can I hate something that I do not believe even exists?
RAmen
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ok first of all i do not hate god and curse his name i do not believe in him there for it would be irrational to hate him i think of my self as a rational person ive haven’t believed in god since i was 10 i was just baffled that people in in times of modern medicine and modern science can believe in some thing that was used to explain things when we were ill informed and gos has never done anything to make me not believe in him because he hasn’t done anything i think this website is a good fight against teaching natural design in schools
Sex,war,blasphemy,hate,mockery, even death you love!
wow i just hate people like you first of all how many wars have been fought in the name of the almighty god how many people killed you sicken me and ex is a completely natural and not a sin and well of course your supposed to enjoy it so i dont care about that death why death aren’t you the one who warships a dead person and celebrate by eating his flesh and drinking his blood sounds satanic if anything you are the one who loves death not atheist
sincerely,14 year old
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(in quotes, grammar is forgivingly corrected”
“I’ve tried giving evidence for God.
I’ve tried telling you the benefits of God.
I’ve tried telling you the horrors of Hell.
I’ve tried kindness.
I’ve tried condemning you.
I’ve tried offering you salvation.
My patience is expired with you all.”
Wow. Finally.
“I have only one question for you all: Why do hate God so much?”
Ah. I see you’re starting with a false premise; we do not hate God. It’s rather difficult to hate something that you’re convinced doesn’t exist. I mean, are you capable of hating, to pull a fictional character out of common culture, Huckleberry Finn?
“What did He do to you to make you doubt His existence?”
Well, showing no evidence of His existence, for a start; it’s not so much “doubt”, you see. It’s abject disbelief. “Doubt” implies that there’s some reasonable possibility of redemption from the conceptual oblivion He resides within.
“Everything I know, everything I love, is in a Book you hate with all your hearts.”
I don’t think anyone literally hates the Bible. I’m pretty sure we hate what certain individuals do with it. For example, attempting to kill scientific endeavor, justifying persecution of homosexuals (or, alternately, until about a generation ago, and in some cases still, persecution of women), pushing wrong-headed sex education limits, etc. These are actions and causes that I think most of us will agree are worthy of our contempt.
“My God is great, He is kind, and He is forgiving.”
You haven’t read much of the bible then? Your God is quite possibly the most petulant and vindictive literary character written about since Roman mythology (the Greeks were more even-handed, though only slightly).
“Yet still, you curse Him with every word.”
No, not every word. In fact, I’m rather sure I only cursed him in the previous paragraph. I mean, unless you believe that expression of disbelief is a ‘curse’, in which case, I’d ask you to check your dictionary.
“Everything He hates, you love. Sex,war,blasphemy,hate,mockery, even death you love!”
I’m going to have to move into the conceptual realm where “God” exists for the moment.
Sex: God doesn’t hate sex; check Leviticus, there’s quite a bit on how awesome sex is there, as long as those having it are equipped to deal with the resultant children.
War: Actually, we rather hate war – and that includes, especially, wars waged in the name of religion. War based on economic or political pressures we can understand – we hate the idea, but these things will happen – but war based on who’s imaginary friend is better? Imagine for a moment that there’s a pair of dudes fighting over whether the Tooth Fairy is a blonde or a brunette, and you’ll get an inkling about how we “love” religious war.
Blasphemy: Indeed! It’s sacrelicious! Mind you, there’s a difference between having a little conceptual fun on a forum and trolling people in real life. My upstairs neigbors are Mormons, for example, but I’m not in their faces, telling them there’s no God. In fact, the only time we broached the subject of religion, it was just to outline what each of us follows. He even went out of his way to insist that he wasn’t one of those crazy, Young-Earth types. He’s a dental student, by the by – he wouldn’t get very far in bio class if he were ignoring evolutionary theory for sectarian reasons.
Hate: No, we’re pretty much against hate as directed towards individuals. Hate the stupid, not the idiot, as it were – but do try and get the idiot educated if you can.
Mockery: Hm. You’ve got us there. I guess it’s time to be torn to pieces by wild bears, eh?
Death: No, no, I’m pretty sure that knowing exactly what the word “mortal” means in context to yourself means we avoid death at all costs. It’s /survival/ of the fittest, not attrition of the fittest, after all.
“All you do to me is mock me.”
Well, when you’re starting on false premises, that’s bound to happen.
“You never give evidence, you only call yourselves enlightened for your lack of faith.”
May I direct you to any one of YouTube’s many intellectual Atheist users*, in which they rather explicitly lay out the evidence for Atheism. As for the “enlightened” concept: real enlightenment comes from being staunchly unable to fool yourself. All scientific and philosophic endeavor depends on this ability, and unless you can master it, you’re not really going to get anywhere.
And the thing is, you can normally tell when it happens; people will start to remark on how honest you are, for better or worse. Once you can’t fool yourself, honesty flows naturally.
“God warns that heathens offer freedom,pleasure,and knowledge, but they are lying.”
I offer you no such thing. Education is the tool that can bring them to you, and I would have all humans in on it if I could. Still, you can’t teach a man mathematics if all he wants to do is draw pretty pictures.
“I have offered you eternal life, and you have cursed me.”
It’s because we know it’s a sham, and we, often quite wrongly, assume that you’re aware of that, and are trying to sucker us in. The default position, in my mind, should be pity rather than scorn; as I see it, you’ve been tricked into living your life for a later one that isn’t going to come. It seems a waste.
“I do not curse you, nor your choices, nor any horrid sin you do.”
Mind you, most Christians do**. If you are really that even handed, you should know: those of your chosen class who are less even than yourself hurt your reputation outside of the class directly. In short, get some control over your nutters, and you won’t have the problem of vitriol directed at them getting on you.
“I cry for you. I will weep in the presence of God because of you, and because i could not save of you a single soul.”
Good luck with that.
“So, my sinful,fallen companions i leave you today with just one question. Why?”
No coherent evidence. Not a whit. I mean, there’s theist “evidence” such as, “As long as you don’t look into it, it seems totally improbable!” and “The banana proves God”, but such things are rather easy to refute just from common knowledge***.
“May Christ Jesus, The One True God, have mercy on you my friends.”
And may you some day learn to stop deceiving yourself.
* Some of the better ones. Keep in mind, these videos are necessarily mocking of creationism and creationists. If you actually pay attention to the videos, the evidence and reason within the videos will give you an inkling as to why:
http://www.youtube.com/user/cdk007
http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54
http://www.youtube.com/user/AndromedasWake
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t
** And you did. Unless you don’t equate “love of hate” to a curse. I personally find such an accusation to be more offensive than nearly anything else you could say to me.
*** The argument from improbability, as applied to evolutionary theory, doesn’t work; while mutation is a random process, selection isn’t. The resulting model is stochastic, with a deterministically positive change in complexity over time – which is a very long-winded way of saying, “decidedly non-random”. I say common knowledge, and it should be, as it’s an easy concept to grasp – but due to the horrifying state of science education in this country, it’s not. And people wonder *why* we get annoyed at creationists attempting to nerf science class.
The banana nightmare is a bit easier to address. The banana is not a natural plant. It is the result of a couple thousand years of humans breeding, and ultimately graft-cloning natural bananas until they were yummy. It may interest you to know that bananas cannot reproduce without human intervention. You see, one of the selection criteria we imposed on the fruit was no seeds. This is rather equivalent to breeding out testicles in humans. As a result, bananas can /only/ reproduce via graft-cloning (where a major branch of a banana tree is grafted onto another compatible tree, in this case, usually a plantain).
Natural bananas range from disgusting to literally inedible. Guess that’s why creationism had to move on to the equally ridiculous Peanut Butter argument, but hey, that’s life.
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so he’s tried forcing his opinion on us. hes tried threatening us with hell. hes tried everything on us, it seems, except tolerance. i suppose that just isn’t the christian way.
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I had never heard of bananas proving the existence of god. What do you do with the banana? The mind boggles….
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Try this: leave us alone, haters.
RAmen
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“Why do hate God so much,what did He do to you to make you doubt His existence?”
1.) I do not hate him. I just hate you.
2.) If he doesn’t exist, how could he have done something to make me doubt him?
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I’ve tried explaining your evidence is stupid.
I’ve tried telling you to think about it.
I’ve tried telling you there is no hell.
I’ve tried reason.
I’ve tried ignoring you.
I’ve tried forcing you out of our schools.
My patience is left me several centuries ago.
I have only one question for you all.
Why do love God so much,what did He do to you to make you waste your life for Him . Everything you have been shown, everything you know is in a Book that has been mistranslated over and over again. your God is a power crazed psycopath, He is a jerk, and He is a murderer. Yet still, you praise Him with every word. Everything He loves is cruel. racism,war,murder,hate,sexism, even death he loves! All you do to us is hate us. You never give evidence, you only call yourselves enlightened for your faith.your God demands that heathens should be killed brutaly and suffer eternal damnation. while we are blessed if you will with freedom,pleasure,and knowledge, who is better off?. I have offered you reason, and you have cursed me. I do not curse you, nor your choices,only the terrible faith that you hold. I cry for you. I will weep in the my mind because you suffer so much, and because you waste the only life you get. So, my deluded,’Enlightened’ companion i leave you today with just one question. Why?
May the Flying Spaghetti Monster, The One True God, have mercy on you my friend.
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They appear to have created a system where they say they have proof, then say the proof is their faith, and finally when you question this fact you are a devil worshiper and must be stop from spreading your evils.
Also, it is not a hate of God no more than it is a hate of Santa or Harry Potter. It is a belief he is not real and a strong discord with those who blindly follow him while ignoring logic and reasoning.
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I have not read through all of the comments but I would like to bring up a point anyway. A lot of you are saying you can’t hate “God” because he doesn’t exist. However, the idea of “God” exists and it is quite possible to hate that. I don’t hate “God” but I hate that people believe in him so blindly.
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I don’t hate. That invalidates your whole message. Please fix it.
FSM bless.
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-I will weep in the presence of God because of you, and because i could not save of you a single soul.-
Its not your job to try and save my soul. Its just jim-dandy like it is right now, thank you very much.
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Why do hate God so much,what did He do to you to make you doubt His existence.
Why do you love God so much, what did He do to you to make you believe in His existence.
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“You never give evidence”
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“Sex,war,blasphemy,hate,mockery, even death you love!”
“God warns that heathens offer freedom,pleasure,and knowledge, but they are lying.”
“I have offered you eternal life”
[citation needed]
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God hates hate? That little hypocrite!
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“Sex,war,blasphemy,hate,mockery, even death you love!”
Only one of those, I think, do we Pastafarians love, according to the Loose Cannon of our blessed Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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What be It with X-ians An’ RanDom CAPS?
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muuuuuuuuuuuuther uckerrr
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Jake Wall- You get 5000 points.
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“My God is great, He is kind, and He is forgiving.”
I was raised in a Christian home. I went to church just about every Sunday. And I was spoon fed all this “God is Kind”…”God is merciful”…”God is love”. This is all bull. I spent my entire life wanting to believe in this…I wanted to believe this because I wanted their to be more than just life. Who knows maybe there is more. But, God is none of these things… He does nothing to show his love. How can he be these things when children everywhere die of horrible diseases and lack of essentials. He allows his “children” to be taken from their families every day. If this God is “kind” why does he allow his “children” to die every day and in every way. If this is the “kind” God that I was raised to believe in then I want nothing to do with him. Give me eternal damnation over God any day. And about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I wish Christians would stop looking at this as blasphemy and an attack at what they believe. No one is attacking them…Bobby was just trying to prove a point, and then it took off. I have strayed as far as possible from Christianity because Christians and Christianity just sucks in general.
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What makes you think that FSM worshippers “hate” your God, just because they have a different idea, doesn’t put them in a place towards hate.
Christians and Catholics are crazy self absorbed Gay Haters!
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There are things called beliefs, and these other things called people, people have beliefs, different people have different beliefs. So get the hell over it, who are you to judge what one believes in? Who are you to go up to that little kid and tell him that the Easter Bunny isn’t real?
Why do you bother passing around your hatred? Don’t spread hatred, spread love, that’s what your “God” would ask you to do!
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Doug, you should try not to limit yourself to avoiding Christianity, what about all the other extreme religions out there, and by extreme I mean anything that expects you to believe in the existence of a supreme deity.
The only sensible set of ethical beliefs really is Buddhism, not a religion but a philosophy.
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Of all the stupid here, this comment is by far my favorite. XD
What “evidence” has he provided? XD
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Hell is just life without God, so with that TEXTBOOK definition Pastafarians are already in hell because they do not have God, they have the holy Flying Spaghetti Monster
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“Why do hate God so much,what did He do to you to make you doubt His existence.”
According to you, this God chap made us all for the sole purpose of worshiping him and you don’t see any problems with that? He also deliberately sets you up to fail so that he can make you beg for his forgiveness.
Surely, if your god is omniscient and omnipotent, then it is he who is responsible for all sins committed as he had the knowledge and power to prevent them. It’s either gross negligence on his part or more likely malicious intent given that he cannot both claim to be omniscient and unaware of the obvious design flaws in his creation.
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long live jake wall.
FSM for you all!!!!!
May we all be touched by His Noodly Appendage!
RAmen!
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@256
14 years and still not found the full stop on your keyboard?
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What a terrible Christian… Jesus Christ is not “God,” he is the SON of “God.” And your faith lies within a book? If that be the case, then my faith is with Spot. I’ve seen him run, I’ve seen him play, and he didn’t use the whole “Hey, I died for your sins so worship me” bit against me. And he didn’t give me some stupid list of things not to do. Sorry. I’m sticking with my FSM and Spot.
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OMG TAJ
So you tried to save us right after you condemn us? How thoughtful of you. :)
We give you no evidence huh? What evidence do you give us? FSM has no more evidence than you do. The only difference is the age of our book, which shouldn’t matter if it came straight from the deity anyways.
Go SPOT!!!
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“Sex,war,blasphemy,hate,mockery, even death you love!”
Corr yeh, I love mockery. It’s like my biggest turn on.
“Why do hate God so much,what did He do to you to make you doubt His existence.”
Give me one piece of solid evidence that couldn’t be disproved.
Not by anything. Not a chance.
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Have you tried giving Gay pepole your love. NO THEY BURN IN HELL IMEDIATLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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not hate, jus ta lak od belief.
RAmen
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How can god hate sex, he invented it, that’s where children come from. And children grow up to make pasta. :P
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First off, I’d like to compare a few statements of ‘Christian’.
“I do not curse you, nor your choices,nor any horrid sin you do.”
“I’ve tried condemning you.” “I’ve tried telling you the horrors of Hell.”
Seems paradoxical.
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Second,
“Why do hate God so much,what did He do to you to make you doubt His existence”
The question isn’t what he did to make us deny his existence, but what he didn’t do; but I guess that’s where the ‘faith’ aspect of religion is used.
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Next,
“Everything I know, everything I love, is in a Book you hate with all your hearts.”
I don’t think many people here will really admit to hating the Bible, as a book.
The fact that we don’t choose to live our lives by it, doesn’t mean we hate it. Personally, I like many of the stories within the Bible, but I also love the House of Leaves, though I don’t live my life by what it says.
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I’ve tried giving evidence for “Sauce”.
I’ve tried telling you the benefits of “Noodley Compassion”.
I’ve tried telling you the horrors of “Non-Analogous Faith”.
I’ve tried “Tomatoes”.
I’ve tried “Noodling” You.
I’ve tried offering you “Meatballs”.
My patience is expired with you “Air”.
I have only one question for you all.
Why do hate “Pasta” so much,what did “It” do to you to make you doubt “It’s” existence.
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this is either a troll or someone really really really stupid.
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dude no really shut the hell up bobby. dude just shut up. your fighting a uphill battle. yea beucase we dont want intelligent desing in class rooms we are devil worshipers who love death. and when he proves himself to me i will burn my fsm t shirt and be happy i am closer to understanding exisitance but until he has i am more than happy to make a few jokes at him. if hes all powerful and forgiving im sure his ego can take it. the creator of everything is big boy and im sure he can handle it
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Why does everybody hate on FSM? They do like to take it seriously, don’t they?
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Perhaps one day you will see past this idol, and see the true face of the Noodly One.
Peace.
RAmen
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Oh yeah, God really hates war. What’s that? Crusades? Those were the exception, DUH.
“I’ve tried condemning you.”
I just love how Christians think they are so benevolent.
RAmen,
~Ita
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Id just like to point this out, I dont think many have strictly because of how offensive it is. What are the odds the “virgin” mary had intercourse with someone not being her husband? The whole virginity thing was a lie, which just got spun into a bigger lie. The big lie being Mary was a virgin, it mustve been gods kid. And please, if I get a reply to this, dont tell me its true because its in the bible or god said hes the kid. Give me real proof, I will gladly suck a greek STD infested prostitute’s tit.
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He’s not actually a christian…..
Christian in its basic meaning is “little christ” or “christ like”
While Jesus did condemn people, the only people he condemned were the dishonest, the extremely wealthy who did nothing to help their neighbors, and most importantly hypocrits who thought they were holier and more perfect than others………
I would lay odds that our friend would be among those Jesus would seek to remind of their humility.
As for the Crusades, those were not God’s doing, those were the doing of the Catholic church. Further God doesn’t Hate war. God hates hypocrisy. I doubt God didn’t support the Allies efforts in WW2, I am quite sure he didn’t support the Axis.
Ramen
May his noodly appendage lay upon
In God’s Blessing may you live
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Erm, isn’t it GOD’s purpose to condemn people? So, therefore, if anyone actually believes a word of what you just said, YOU are playing at being God, which, I do believe, is a sin in your religion, is it not?
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Plus most of your arguments are moot. We have you beaten. So just give up. You’re only digging yourself a deeper hole. Or maybe you like groveling in the dirt?
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God SUCKS! FSM would be a better god then your almighty. I have prayed to him and everything, and for what? MISFORTUNE! Of course, I made my own god as a product of this monstrousity people call JESSUS CHRIST. Hell, FSM is better then that Im sure. And who said anything about we love the things HE hates? At least this god has a name and face! Dumbasses.
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