I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians

Published October 31st, 2008 by Bobby Henderson

I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians. It is obvious by your website. You can deny God all you want but he will not deny you. You can hate God but he loves you. You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.

God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images and worship it because we have no idea what God really looks like.

I was saddened by your website. I do not know your history and why you are so bitter and angry but I hope you would at least try to ask God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist. God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.

Christianity requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to the heart.

If hope you are opened enough to at least consider what I am saying. Do not stereotype Christians. We are not all the same. We are not all condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded.

-Soo



269 Responses to “I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians”

  1. Lindy says:

    Soo,

    Thank you for writing respectfully (if you check out the “hate mail” section, you’ll see that not everyone shares your civility). First, many FSM followers are really just against Religion in the Public Science Classroom. But you’re right that many have “taken the next step,” so I’ll address your questions from that perspective as well.

    > I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians. It is obvious by your
    > website.

    Actually, I consider myself lucky–Christians haven’t hurt me anywhere near as badly as they have hurt so many others. Mostly, Christians just condescend to me and assume I’m a wretchedly amoral human being. Not bad at all compared to, say Palestine during the Crusades.

    > You can deny God all you want but he will not deny you.

    I don’t deny God. I just think he’s high in carbohydrates.

    > You can hate God but he loves you. You can say all you want that
    > there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you
    > have never physically seen me either.

    First, I don’t hate God any more than I hate, say, Tinkerbell. Secondly, we don’t deny a Christian God just because we have never seen him–you really don’t think we have other reasons?

    > God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a
    > physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images
    > and worship it because we have no idea what God really looks like.

    I don’t think that even Christians believe God stated anything at all in the Bible. Others claimed to write things about God in the Bible (that’s why we have “The Book of John,” “The Book of Luke,” and “The Book of Paul,” but not “The Book of Yahweh”).

    > I was saddened by your website. I do not know your history and why
    > you are so bitter and angry but I hope you would at least try to ask
    > God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist.

    Ummm–the site is not supposed to be sad–don’t take everything so seriously! Do the FSMers baking cakes and marching in parades look sad to you? I don’t think we’re bitter and angry at all (though some of us get a little salty when addressing the hecklers in the “hate mail” section). Also, I’d bet that just about everybody here has done some serious questioning about their spirituality–probably a lot more than most Christians (that’s reflected in some of the other posts referring to answering machines–God appears to be very rude in not responding to many of us…). If God hasn’t responded, it’s not for a lack of “asking.” Maybe you should open your heart to the wonderful meatbally goodness of the FSM.

    > God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he
    > wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he
    > (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered
    > Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s
    > back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.

    Again with the “God himself stated” (I think you meant “Himself” and “His hand,” but never mind)–to my knowledge, God hasn’t written any books yet. If you can clear up the attribution, the story will have a lot more weight. Also, why is God’s face so destructive, but not his posterior? Is he like Medusa or does he shoot lasers out of his eyes like Godzilla? Couldn’t he control the “killer gaze” if he wanted to since he can do anything? But I digress…

    > Christianity requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to
    > the heart.

    Or it doesn’t. For me, it didn’t take.

    > I hope you are opened enough to at least consider what I am saying.
    > Do not stereotype Christians. We are not all the same. We are not all
    > condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded.

    You’ll find a lot of people here will be closed to your message–but that’s only because we’ve heard this message before. In fact, it’s pretty hard to get through life without hearing this particular message (over and over again, ad nauseam). Much rarer is the Christian who has given OUR message a fair shake. Give it a try–we really are a lot of fun! And you don’t have to tithe!

    Arrr. RAmen.

  2. ApostateAbe says:

    Soo, what really matters to us is the evidence. If God exists objectively and leaves evidence, sort of like you are leaving evidence of your existence, then that is what we really need. We will not believe something just because we join an ideological system (well, some of us will), nor will we believe something just because it feels good and we wish it. We need evidence. For example, if the evidence is like the Bible or the Koran or something, then we will need good reasons to believe that the writing was authored by God and not religious people from the bronze age. See what I mean?

  3. Lucky says:

    Insightful ape,

    Thar was a true Pastafarian reply. Cheers to you!

    Lucky

  4. Fred Nurke says:

    I wonder why “they” (Xians) always feel we’re bitter and angry because we don’t agree with them. I have yet to find a more happy bunch than the Piratical Pastafarians. And how do they know that their god doesn’t look like FSM? Where are the pictures hmmmm??? “Man was created in God’s image” they will say. So, does God look like Charlton Heston? Osama Bin Laden? Stephen Hawking? Hmm? Hmmm????
    cheers!

  5. Theo, Holland says:

    Listen up. Specially Dan, Ron!
    This is a religion of peace. We want christians to understand what they believe; something imaginary. And that they learn it from parent to child. Or from peer presure. Not by some holy gost that made them come to their senses.
    .
    So. Stop reacting like a child, xtains, Ron, Dan, everyone and just tell each other what it is.
    God is imaginary and you believe that he is real because you are brainwashed. That’s it.
    Damnit.
    Theo, a pastafarian untill someone proofs to me that the FSM does not exist.

  6. Mario says:

    Just a quick question about your post.

    “God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body.”

    Then how did God create man in his image if he is a spirit?

  7. Advantageous Mongoose says:

    Dear Mrs/Mr/Ms/Rev/whatever -Soo

    Can you please have a word with your supreme, all-knowing and ever-loving God and get him to sort out those condemning, judgmental and closed minded idiots that are worshiping him. Please make a special effort with the fundamentalist creationists, frankly they scare the shit out of me.

    Oh and while you’re at it, can we at least get a description of what he looks like? So far the consensus view is ‘Old Fat Bearded Man In Cloud’ – this would be a big help to all the religious artists out there, and we could be sure that it’s his likeness we’re seeing in our toasted cheese and not just some random hippy.

  8. Advantageous Mongoose says:

    “You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.”

    Are you trying to tell us that you are the Invisible Pink Unicorn?

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