I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians. It is obvious by your website. You can deny God all you want but he will not deny you. You can hate God but he loves you. You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.
God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images and worship it because we have no idea what God really looks like.
I was saddened by your website. I do not know your history and why you are so bitter and angry but I hope you would at least try to ask God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist. God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.
Christianity requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to the heart.
If hope you are opened enough to at least consider what I am saying. Do not stereotype Christians. We are not all the same. We are not all condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded.
-Soo
I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians
Published by Bobby Henderson October 31st, 2008 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 228 Comments
228 Responses to “I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians”
Agree with above
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what verse in the bible says that Moses saw God? It has been a while since I read the book yet I still don’t quite recall that scene.
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I’m sorry, who wrote the bible? people, right? Human’s correct? There is no other way it could have come into existence, and so I do not believe in that book as proof of a god, for it is tainted by human ideas. Religion aims to control, belief aims to comfort (which I think is a wonderful idea), and our Pastafarianism looks to invoke thought and understanding. It is possible that through looking at this sight, and exploring the thoughts of fellow questioners of religion, that someone might decide they would rather stick with a religion, and if that happens to be Christianity, look, YOU WILL HAVE WON. But the rest of us are content to question, and to analyze. Searching for the truth, or anything close, in this world so convoluted by religions and intolerance.
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Any one here “hating” god or not believing is not a true Pastafarian. We of course believe in god, we merely believe he is edible. We dont hate Him either as he has provided the world with such wonders as spaghetti meatballs etc… Also He provides us with countless hours of entertainment. Ever lose a sock in the dryer and can’t figure out how it could have possibly just disapeared? The only reasonable explination is that His noodely appendage was responsible.
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God hasn’t emailed me either. I don’t believe in him because I have not seen, heard, tasted, felt, smelled, been emailed by, been texted by, gotten a postcard from, been hit in the head with a chunk of blue ice from a private plane belonging to, god.
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“I do not know your history and why you are so bitter and angry”
Since when were we so “bitter” and “angry”? O_o Enlighten us, please.
May His Noodliness touch you
RAmen
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“You can hate God but he loves you. You can say all you want that there is no God”. There is one thing I can say that will make God stop loving me. I deny the existences of the holy spirit. That one line will send me to hell to matter what. God stopped loving me a long time ago.
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you just contradicted yourself my friend. If “God” has no form and is spirit how does moses see his back?
you can blindly follow your imaginary friend but we believe in a purpose. His noodlyness preaches Tolerance of all religion, so i will not mock you and you sad inability to see the REAL light. You say god loves us but we are well loved by our lord and savior.
I pray for You.
-RAmen
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I think this could be an interesting experiment. Let’s see how many of the original words I can keep.
I am sorry you have been hurt by [Pastafarians]. It is obvious by your website. You can deny [the Flying Spaghetti Monster] all you want but he will not deny you. You can hate [the Flying Spaghetti Monster] but he loves you. You can say all you want that there is no [Flying Spaghetti Monster], but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.
[The Flying Spaghetti Monster] himself stated in the [Manifesto of the FSM] that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images and worship it because we have no idea what [the Flying Spaghetti Monster] really looks like.
I was saddened by your website. I do not know your history and why you are so bitter and angry but I hope you would at least try to ask [the Flying Spaghetti Monster] if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist. [The Flying Spaghetti Monster] himself stated in the [Manifesto of the FSM] to [Bobby Henderson] who also said he wanted to see [the FSM], if [Bobby Henderson] was to actually see [the FSM] face to face, he ([Bobby Henderson]) would die due to [the FSM]’s holiness, BUT [the FSM] did pass by, covered [Bobby Henderson's] eyes, then removed his hand so [Bobby Henderson] can at least see [the FSM's noodley appendage]. Even with that [Bobby Henderson's] face glowed from seeing [the FSM]’s holiness.
[Flying Spaghetti Monsterism] requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to the heart.
If hope you are opened enough to at least consider what I am saying. Do not stereotype [Pastafarians]. We are not all the same. We are not all condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded.
-Soo
Wow, I just read it over and must admit that it retained more of the original meaning than I had anticipated. I hope we can all see that you can add equally valid metaphysical lunacy to any situation so long as you are willing to believe specific propositions with a complete lack of evidence.
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Who says I don’t exist because I am not posting here? I happen to read every post and I, Almighty God, am ticking you off my list as you carry on. Thank Myself that I keep an eye on you lot!
You want to know what I look like? Don’t you know I created you in my own image! That was 2 million years ago, so of course I look like Homo habilis. I have a 650 ccm brain volume and am a little over 4 ft tall, with distinctive supraorbital tori.
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Twice you mentioned that God himself said — in the Bible. How do you know that? Obviously you weren’t around thousands of years ago. If God wants to get his word around, perhaps he should have a talk show, put out a CD… get with it, God! If you want everyone to spend time telling you how great you are, give us a show, huh!??
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First of all, I beilve that there is something higher than us. It could be a god, a spirt, or anything really. But once you start saying that foods are gods, i mean, come on now. You really want to give in all of your heart, all of your life to a pasta? is that what you consider a higher being. There are things that our higher than us that we all know of, love, trust, hope. Speghetti is something that we eat, digest, and poop out. What a wonderful thing to beleive in. If you are trying to make a statement. Then just make a statement. People can go crazy with this.
Mostly because it is human nature to wonder what’s above us.
But you must realize that there’s a differance between beleif and evidence.
If you keep looking for evidence of a god or of any other higher being,
truth is that you wont find it.
and there is a purpose to that.
If we had all of the answers, all of the evidence in front of us. Then what would we have to beleive in? We would be dead to anything and dead to ourselves.
We wouldnt have any inspiration, or dignity. We would be lifeless.
So stop with this foolishness.
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@ Cara: If we had all the answer and all of the evidence in front of us that’s called ‘enlightenment’. Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s what happens when you die and go to heaven, no? I fail to see how enlightenment will make us lifeless, just the opposite IMO.
So stop with this foolishness.
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Soo said: “I’m sorry if you have been hurt by Christians…” Gee, I wonder… Who hasn’t been hurt by Christians at some point in their lives? From the jesus-freak next door always telling you that his lawn is greener because his christian, to the jehovah witness bothering you at home every Saturday very early in the morning, to the “revival” churches, particularly those of the Caribbean, who scream and yell in their cult like rabid dogs… Let’s talk about your precious christianity. This is what christianism is all about: the Crusades, the Salem Trials, slavery of Africans and African Americans, as well as the eradication of the natives in my country (Puerto Rico), the Holocaust, the Inquisition, Irak 2003… shall I keep the list going? Let’s face it: you can say whatever you want about how the new christianity has distanced itself against the old bloody catholic church, but let us not be fooled, for this is clearly the most dangerous of all religions and the bloodiest of them all.
RAmen forever!
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Boo. There is always something higher than us… blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda. People who keep repeating this mantra are cowardly and weak people who cannot stand the notion of being alone. Grow up already! There is nobody “up there”, and if there is, he is not interested in your ass-kissing!
RAmen forever!!!
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@162
Spirit, difference, belief, believe. Pay attention in class.
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“God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit”
Yeah but to be honest the bible was written by a “mortal”
which, according to your other christian buddies, “cannot understand god”
So they might of misinterpretated him. :]
He could’ve actually said HE wasn’t the spirit.
Seeing as how you have no proof for your god (however much you wish you did)
You cannot disprove me.
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Praise the all worthy God, the ONE TRUE GOD! Please remove pastafarianism from your heads, you are bringing your own demise upon yourselves!
Any Christian who strives in the fight against FSM, please do contact me at gardal@euroweb.net.mt
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Your in the wrong place for bitter. Bitter is at atheism, and KKK, and Nazi, etc. Were just laughing at you.
Ask any psychologist on the planet, laughter is one of the most effective and mature mechanisms for dealing with stress.
Some people blow up hospitals. We laugh at how hopelessly ineffective they are.
I’m not asking you to give up God for pasta. I’m asking you to give up fear and misunderstanding, (very polite though, i thank you) for some simple, chilled out humor. I know how bad you’ve been told the world is. It’s really not that horrible.
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“but I hope you would at least try to ask God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist.”
I asked.
Nothing happened.
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but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.
heres the problem here is that i can compare you to many things i have seen. for example i have seen a friend write a blog and seen him in life. i can link that words have a writer. so just as i have physically seen a human write a blog i can assume that you do exist. with god i have never seen anything conclusive enought to prove that god does in fact exist
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but good job been repectful
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“Christianity requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to the heart. ”
I had faith in Santa Claus too, even though I never saw him. I was devastated that one Christmas morning when I realized all of my presents still had pricetags on them, and the receipts for it bought under a credit card for . I don’t want to be disappointed again.
“but I hope you would at least try to ask God if He is for real,”
I tried that. Never got a response. I thought I did, but it turns out I was just hungry, so I ate some spaghetti.
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but sir, we do worship God, our God. Just because our God is not the same as yours is no reason to say such things.
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who ever said anything about hating christians? i myself am presbytarian.
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Hi Soo,
Just out of interest, what’s my next step when I ask God if S/he exists, and S/he answers “No.”?
Looking forward in earnest to your reply,
Cad
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Praise the all-worthy god, the one true god, all hail his noodly lordship the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
May you all be touched by His noodly appendage in your fight against creationism, ID and any other bullshit being taught at school.
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Dale Scerri, Good luck with your fight against the FSM. However, it’s inevitable that the FSM masses shall rise up and remove the bourgois christian elite.
Maybe you’ll beleive me when you grow up.
Dan
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Why, the FSM is a physical being!
I was touched by His Noodly Appendage just this morning…
And I’m ever-so sorry that you haven’t yet seen the light.
I will pray for you.
RAmen
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To Arizonan;
May you be touched by his noodly goodness- then maybe you will see that atheists aren’t any more bitter than anyone else. Atheists = Nazis/KKK? Really? Just because we don’t believe in god (other than FSM), we are hate-mongering murderers. Really?
I hope FSM will bring happiness to you, and all others who believe!
STACEYJW
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Cara #162 I believe we can be better than we are. We can embrace reason and use it to find creative solutions to our problems. We can stop treating others poorly just because their invisible friend is different from yours. We can define morality by thinking about what is right or wrong, not being told by someone who claims higher authority. We can cast off old barbarism and embrace the future. We can behave in a dignified manner rather than assuming automatic dignity by birthright. We can live life to its fullest rather than treating it as a warmup for an afterlife that never comes. We can approach the unknown with wonder and excitement rather than shrinking in fear and reverence.
That’s what I believe, and it gives me all the purpose and life I need without silly suppretition.
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The ONLY problem I have with Pastafarianism ( and I am actually EXTREMELY in support of it – I think it uses hilarious sarcasm to make an excellent point) is that some of its followers are under the misconception that its purpose is to spite Christianity. They lose sight of the fact that it was actually founded to ensure equal rights and respect for ALL religions. So maybe those of you who joined it to be angry and slam other religions should rethink your decision.
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This is special >:| Only god is the one true god, you poor lost souls. Hope your dinner will save you on judgment day
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I mean come a noodle monster
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Well, Kris (#182), you’re right about the purpose of the site. But once we got going on the absurdity of Intelligent Design, some of us just kept rolling. Sorry!
So which “religion” gets the least amount of respect? Atheism, of course. The Emperor gets mad if someone tells him he has no clothes.
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You know, God exists. Or, he SORT OF does.
The FSM allows us to have other Gods, and He allows us to doubt. He just doesn’t mind.
…It’s just that he’s obviously the most awesome [and tasty] by such a large margin that there’s really no reason to doubt.
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“183 – January 26th, 2009 at – Dynamite Says:
This is special >:| Only god is the one true god, you poor lost souls. Hope your dinner will save you on judgment day”
And what the heck is judgement day?
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littleanimal (#187) asks “And what the heck is judgement day?”
That’s when the loving Christian god decides which of his creations he will torture eternally.
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What a stupid god…
We hate him, but he loves us. I’d just hate us back
R’amen brother
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You can deny God all you want but he will not deny you. You can hate God but he loves you. You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.
Ummm… you misspelled Flying Spaghetti Monster quite a few times. I’m pretty sure it isn’t spelled God…
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God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.
So if God moons me, I will be impressed? hmmm
TBHNA
BCA
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Michael #190 – I can’t say you don’t exist because I can see something you’ve done, your post. I’ve seen no evidence for God in any form.
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Childhood trauma.
The Christians…
They told me stories of a great man who’d done the world good by having himself nailed to a cross, furthering that line of torture among culture in 1980 or so BCE.
Scared me to death.
I hate those sadist freaks.
Totally.
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This website is promoting the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which is a deity, therefore it is not denying the existence of god, maybe the existence of YOUR god… But Muslims aren’t Muslims just because they don’t like Christians, and it’s the same principle.
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wow didnt know people can die from holiness, is it a disease?
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“You can deny God all you want but he will not deny you. You can hate God but he loves you.”
So.. you’re telling me, God = Rapist Pedo?
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Wow, this letter is suprisingly non-abrasive, so why not give it the credit to take it one paragraph at a time?
Quote:”You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.”
Response: As a matter of fact, I CAN say that you don’t exist because I have never seen you. Things with no physical bodies pass information around on the internet all the time, they are called bots. Actually with a little imagination, I feel perfectly comfortable acknowleging that a person might not exist even after I have met them; it is entirely possible that all of the world I know is an illusion.
Quote: “God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images and worship it [b]because we have no idea what God really looks like.[/b]”
Response: That last bit there is a fairly eloquent argument for pastifarianism. If you don’t know what your god actually looks like then why would you care whether he is depicted as a carpenter on a cross or a nourishing meal? [Don't some Christians use fish as a symbol of their religion? I've seen it on your bumpers.]
Quote: “I was saddened by your website. I do not know your history…”
Response: They leave a link to the explanation at the top of the front page. Did you really come to a summary judgement so quickly that you couldn’t be bothered to learn something about the people you are critisizing? If you had checked, you’d probably realize that the church of the flying spaghetti monster is more about the educational system than religion.
Quote: “…and why you are so bitter and angry but I hope you would at least try to ask God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist.”
Response: Ok, that sounds fair enough:
God, if you are real and you are the Christian God, show me a sign within the next week.
I will post in this thread again in one week and let you know how this goes Soo.
Quote: “God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.”
Response: “So… god’s ass is less holy than his front? Good to know!”
Quote: “Christianity requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to the heart.”
Response: No. That’s what naivety requires. Christianity requires…. um… a baptism I guess. Infact, maybe that’s an area you could improve on. Increase the initiation difficulty to your club, then I can take you more seriously as a whole.
Quote: “If hope you are opened enough to at least consider what I am saying.”
Response: It’s considered.
Quote: “Do not stereotype Christians.”
Response: No promises.
Quote:”We are not all condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded.”
Response: Unless people think differently than you, Because apparently then you start writing hatemail to websites about pasta.
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Bruno the Pig said:
“after reading your comment i decided to give god a chance. so i gave him countless opportunities to prove that he exists. One last try. If god somehow blanks out this post i will declare faith in him. (and use capitals when referring to him)”
Did you ask him to reveal himself to you? Try this:
“God, if you really are out there and you created the whole universe, then show me. It wouldn’t be that hard to do if you’re all-powerful. If you show me, somehow, that you really are there, then I’ll become a Christian and give myself to you.”
Just try it. If God really doesn’t exist, then what have you got to lose?
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“Hurt by Christians.” I suppose it’s because most people with a religious belief reading these posts are English speakers and likely to be Christians that they think that Pastafarians have it in for them. No. When I worked in the Middle East I was worried about being hurt by Muslims… Pastafarians don’t have it in for anybody (except perhaps the unintelligent).
Yes, hurt. Why do the religious always think they have a (God-given?) right to tell me what my moral stance should be. THEY believe it’s wrong to [insert harmless behaviour here] so *I* mustn’t do it. That’s arrogant. Hurtful.
Come on, Christians, what’s the justification? My civic principles, briefly, preclude harming other people. No wounding, killing, depriving of liberty and sustenance etc. But, hey, for example if 2 of my gay friends want to confirm their loving relationship in a CIVIL legal compact, what business is that of yours? How could it possibly diminish you?
May His Noodly Appendage touch you and show you the narrowness of your attitudes.
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Jonny K Said: “Response: Ok, that sounds fair enough:
God, if you are real and you are the Christian God, show me a sign within the next week.
I will post in this thread again in one week and let you know how this goes Soo.”
Sorry Christian, no dice. I was looking too!
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