I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians. It is obvious by your website. You can deny God all you want but he will not deny you. You can hate God but he loves you. You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.
God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images and worship it because we have no idea what God really looks like.
I was saddened by your website. I do not know your history and why you are so bitter and angry but I hope you would at least try to ask God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist. God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.
Christianity requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to the heart.
If hope you are opened enough to at least consider what I am saying. Do not stereotype Christians. We are not all the same. We are not all condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded.
-Soo
I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians
Published by Bobby Henderson October 31st, 2008 in Hate Mail (and concerned criticism). 228 Comments
228 Responses to “I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians”
I like Christians who aren’t assholes, but those who are assholes give their faith and their God a bad name.
I also dislike Pastafarians who are close-minded. I feel like many of us are just as bad as the few assholish Christians. Our job isn’t to bash other religions in the face. I feel like we’re all doing it wrong.
I want to be part of something that will teach everyone to be tolerant, not something that could start a war.
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Hi Soo, rejection of Christianity (at least as practised) doesn’t mean we’ve been hurt by Christianity, just that we don’t believe. It’s possible to reject the bible and not feel a void or hate.
Thank you for not descending into the usual abuse.
Dan
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I…… *sigh*…
This letter was calm, polite, well thought out, and non- confrontational.
And yet….. I still have the urge to track down the condescending son- of- a- bitch and slap them.
Thoroughly.
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I am very sorry for you, because you are so misguided. There is absolutely no evidence backing your insane claims of this so-called “Bible”.
Our religion is based solely on hard facts and truth. I hope you repent your retarded ways and accept simple logic.
Ramen
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Soo,
I have personally asked your God if he is real, but to no avail. I am still waiting for an answer. Does he have an answering machine, or an e-mail address? I must not be using the right medium to contact him. Any suggestions?
ralphie
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Dear Soo: If you want to see fucking creepy, read your Bible.
It was only when I finally decided to read the Bible through from beginning to end that I perceived that its depiction of the Lord God, whom I had always viewed as the very embodiment of perfection was actually that of a monstrous, vengeful tyrant, far exceeding in bloodthirstiness and insane savagery the depredations of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Attila the Hun, or any other mass murderer of ancient or modern history. I want nothing to do with your so called God. If your God wanted to show his ass to Moses then he is a pervert too. Your religion is not going to do anything for you except take you money, you brainwashed Idiot.
Lucifer
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Soo, are you winding us up? You either haven’t read the Open Letter (see home page) or you have failed to understand it. This is about xian attempts to hijack science education in Kansas and other parts of the USA.
Also, try to understand that the fact that something is in the bible doesn’t make it evidence of anything. It’s just a collection of myths and stories, that’s all.
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But I want to collapse his wave function =(
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Soo,
I thank you for your heartfelt response. I likewise would ask you to consider what we as Pastafarians are saying. The Flying Spaghetti Monster also wishes to remain unseen, but the proof of his existence is evident by the fact that he touches everything with his noodley appendage. This obvious by the fact that Bobby Henderson was compelled to write a certain letter to the State of Kansas School board when they were attempting to teach children a belief that was not consistent with our own.
I have actually asked your God if he is real. I unfortunately haven’t received an answer yet. Does he have an e-mail address that I can write to? When I asked I didn’t get an answering machine, should I have just let my question ring longer? I hope I didn’t hang up too soon…
ralphie
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Soo, it is so bad that you hate the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You can’t say he doesn’t exist because you haven’t seen him. If you even consider you may be wrong, you just ask him and he will touch you with his noodley appendages. Pastafarianism requires faith in the unseen. You can deny the FSM as much as you want, His Noodlieness is still the creator and he loves you. It is so sad that if you do not feel his touch you will be stuck with stale beer for eternity.
Peace.
PS: Whenever you have time you may want to look up the word “patronizing” in the dictionary.
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“You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.”
You can’t do scientifically disproven acts; you can’t smite people; there us actually solid proof that you exist, unlike God
“God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images and worship it because we have no idea what God really looks like.”
How do you know that God wrote the bible? You don’t, because your parents raised you to blindly believe this stuff.
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Soo, thanks for the kind words. I too am sorry that you have been hurt by rational thought and have apparently chosen to reject it.
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damn it, even though she was polite she made me angry.
it’s insulting how some christians think that everyone who doesn’t follow their world view is sad and angry… as if it’s the ONLY way to live…
well, as i said, at least she didn’t through some “go to hell” mail like the others.
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Right.
Step 1: Read the information on the site. Read the open letter.
Step 2: Understand that the bible was written by people. Humans. Folks who may or may not have believed what they were writing. Not a mysterious cloud-being.
Step 3: Understand further that the *original* bible has been copied innumerable times, with innumerable changes to the text, to the point where there are now scsores of different versions, each with its set of rabid defenders. Not one of these documents has any right to be called the word of god, since the fables and lessons are told from the viewpoint of men, not from the viewpoint of *god*.
Of course religion requires faith in the unseen. There’s nothing there to see, so one has to follow one’s imagination. It’s no different in Buddhism, or Islam, or anything else. There’s nothing special about xianity.
I don’t think any of the reasoning posters on this site hates god. I certainly don’t. How can I hate something that doesn’t exist? I admit a certain lack of fondness for those so-called xians who can’t keep their opinions to themselves, and who judge and condemn Pastafarians in direct contravention of their own religious tenets. Someone pointed out the other day in another string, a study that found an inverse correlation between IQ and religious fervor. I’m certainly not surprised by that. One of the reasons that religions like xianity remain so popular is that even the most intelligent of believers will steadfastly refuse to apply their intelligence in an analysis of their beliefs.
If, through some strange and bizarre turn of events, you actually come back to see what we have said in response to your post, please be as open as you admonish us to be, and consider the following quote:
**If a being of infinite wisdom wrote the Bible, or caused it to be written, he must have known exactly how his words would be interpreted by all the world, and he must have intended to convey the very meaning that was conveyed….If an infinite being cannot, in making a REVELATION to man, use such words that every person to whom a revelation is essential will understand distinctly what that revelation IS, then a revelation from God through the instrumentality of language is impossible, or it is not essential that all should understand it correctly. It may be argued that millions have not the capacity to understand a revelation, although expressed in the plainest words. To this it seems a sufficient reply to ask, why a being of infinite power should create men so devoid of intelligence, that he cannot by any means make known to them his will?
We are told that it is exceedingly plain, and that a wayfaring man, though a fool, need not err therein. This statement is refuted by the religious history of the christian world. Every sect is a certificate that God has not plainly revealed his will to man.
To each reader the Bible conveys a different meaning. About the meaning of this book, called a revelation, there have been ages of war, and centuries of sword and flame. …Is it not infinitely more reasonable to say that this book is the work of man, that it is filled with mingled truth and error, with mistakes and facts, and reflects, too faithfully perhaps, the ‘very form and pressure of its time’?**
(Some Mistakes of Moses, Robert Ingersoll, Prometheus Books 1986, pp. 89,90,91)
I’m sure you’ll find a way to rationalize yourself out of its logic. But maybe, just maybe, you’ll be touched by His Noodly Appendage, and see the light.
RAmen
ET
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On second thought-if God doesn’t have a body-how come he has a back?
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The story of Moses was derived from the Sumerian story of Sargon in which a chile was abandoned on a wicker basket on the river, taken in by the royal household and went on the receiver laws from the creator. As a matter of fact, numberous religions have the same story with variation in which the lawgiver has names like Mises, Muses, Mases, etc. Moses is only the last of these lawgivers, his biography is every bit as much a plagiarized rip off of earlier pagan myths, as is the biography of Jesus.
If you are truely open minded, you should look up a movie entitled “Zeitgeist” which exposes the fact that the Judeo-Xtain religion is nothing more than a rebrand of earlier pagan beliefs which floated around the Middle East for millenia.
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Soo,
Thank you for writing respectfully (if you check out the “hate mail” section, you’ll see that not everyone shares your civility). First, many FSM followers are really just against Religion in the Public Science Classroom. But you’re right that many have “taken the next step,” so I’ll address your questions from that perspective as well.
> I am sorry you have been hurt by Christians. It is obvious by your
> website.
Actually, I consider myself lucky–Christians haven’t hurt me anywhere near as badly as they have hurt so many others. Mostly, Christians just condescend to me and assume I’m a wretchedly amoral human being. Not bad at all compared to, say Palestine during the Crusades.
> You can deny God all you want but he will not deny you.
I don’t deny God. I just think he’s high in carbohydrates.
> You can hate God but he loves you. You can say all you want that
> there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you
> have never physically seen me either.
First, I don’t hate God any more than I hate, say, Tinkerbell. Secondly, we don’t deny a Christian God just because we have never seen him–you really don’t think we have other reasons?
> God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a
> physical body. That is why HE said himself do not create any images
> and worship it because we have no idea what God really looks like.
I don’t think that even Christians believe God stated anything at all in the Bible. Others claimed to write things about God in the Bible (that’s why we have “The Book of John,” “The Book of Luke,” and “The Book of Paul,” but not “The Book of Yahweh”).
> I was saddened by your website. I do not know your history and why
> you are so bitter and angry but I hope you would at least try to ask
> God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist.
Ummm–the site is not supposed to be sad–don’t take everything so seriously! Do the FSMers baking cakes and marching in parades look sad to you? I don’t think we’re bitter and angry at all (though some of us get a little salty when addressing the hecklers in the “hate mail” section). Also, I’d bet that just about everybody here has done some serious questioning about their spirituality–probably a lot more than most Christians (that’s reflected in some of the other posts referring to answering machines–God appears to be very rude in not responding to many of us…). If God hasn’t responded, it’s not for a lack of “asking.” Maybe you should open your heart to the wonderful meatbally goodness of the FSM.
> God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he
> wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he
> (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered
> Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s
> back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.
Again with the “God himself stated” (I think you meant “Himself” and “His hand,” but never mind)–to my knowledge, God hasn’t written any books yet. If you can clear up the attribution, the story will have a lot more weight. Also, why is God’s face so destructive, but not his posterior? Is he like Medusa or does he shoot lasers out of his eyes like Godzilla? Couldn’t he control the “killer gaze” if he wanted to since he can do anything? But I digress…
> Christianity requires faith of the unseen. The conviction comes to
> the heart.
Or it doesn’t. For me, it didn’t take.
> I hope you are opened enough to at least consider what I am saying.
> Do not stereotype Christians. We are not all the same. We are not all
> condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded.
You’ll find a lot of people here will be closed to your message–but that’s only because we’ve heard this message before. In fact, it’s pretty hard to get through life without hearing this particular message (over and over again, ad nauseam). Much rarer is the Christian who has given OUR message a fair shake. Give it a try–we really are a lot of fun! And you don’t have to tithe!
Arrr. RAmen.
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Soo, what really matters to us is the evidence. If God exists objectively and leaves evidence, sort of like you are leaving evidence of your existence, then that is what we really need. We will not believe something just because we join an ideological system (well, some of us will), nor will we believe something just because it feels good and we wish it. We need evidence. For example, if the evidence is like the Bible or the Koran or something, then we will need good reasons to believe that the writing was authored by God and not religious people from the bronze age. See what I mean?
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Insightful ape,
Thar was a true Pastafarian reply. Cheers to you!
Lucky
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I wonder why “they” (Xians) always feel we’re bitter and angry because we don’t agree with them. I have yet to find a more happy bunch than the Piratical Pastafarians. And how do they know that their god doesn’t look like FSM? Where are the pictures hmmmm??? “Man was created in God’s image” they will say. So, does God look like Charlton Heston? Osama Bin Laden? Stephen Hawking? Hmm? Hmmm????
cheers!
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Listen up. Specially Dan, Ron!
This is a religion of peace. We want christians to understand what they believe; something imaginary. And that they learn it from parent to child. Or from peer presure. Not by some holy gost that made them come to their senses.
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So. Stop reacting like a child, xtains, Ron, Dan, everyone and just tell each other what it is.
God is imaginary and you believe that he is real because you are brainwashed. That’s it.
Damnit.
Theo, a pastafarian untill someone proofs to me that the FSM does not exist.
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Just a quick question about your post.
“God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body.”
Then how did God create man in his image if he is a spirit?
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Dear Mrs/Mr/Ms/Rev/whatever -Soo
Can you please have a word with your supreme, all-knowing and ever-loving God and get him to sort out those condemning, judgmental and closed minded idiots that are worshiping him. Please make a special effort with the fundamentalist creationists, frankly they scare the shit out of me.
Oh and while you’re at it, can we at least get a description of what he looks like? So far the consensus view is ‘Old Fat Bearded Man In Cloud’ – this would be a big help to all the religious artists out there, and we could be sure that it’s his likeness we’re seeing in our toasted cheese and not just some random hippy.
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“You can say all you want that there is no God, but you can’t say I don’t exist just because you have never physically seen me either.”
Are you trying to tell us that you are the Invisible Pink Unicorn?
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Christian Cliche #4
“SALVATION IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY SORE SUBJECT FOR YOU – YOU ARE SO FULL OF HATE AND CONTEMPT”
Your arguments against born again fundamentalism make sense. I’ll have to change the focus of our discussion.
Christian Cliche # 5
“SOMEONE IN THE CHURCH MUST HAVE CAUSED YOU A GREAT DEAL OF HURT FOR YOU TO FEEL THIS WAY”
You couldn’t have possibly left Christianity just because you studied the Bible and you think you found inconsistencies and errors in it.
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Hello, Soo. It’s refreshing to see someone who doesn’t agree with the Pastafarians being polite and respectful in addressing them, and I’d like to thank you for that. Religious and areligious people alike can sometimes forget their manners, given the anonymity of the Internet. You seem to think that the reason many of us aren’t Christians is because we’ve had bad experiences with the Church or with its followers. In many cases, this may be true. However, a lot of Christians give this “bad experience” demographic too much attention. People can and do reject Christianity (or any religion) based on purely intellectual examination. Reading the Bible for myself and not relying on anyone else to tell me what it said was the event that turned me into an atheist. I used to have that faith in the unseen that you mentioned, and it hurt to lose it, but taking a good, hard, independent look at the Bible drove me away from Christianity once and for all. I’m not bitter at all; in fact, I’m happier than I ever was before. So please, Soo, I ask you not to chalk up all unbelief to bitterness and bad experiences. Some of us come by it more honestly and maturely than that. That said, let’s be happy together as people, recognizing and tolerating each other’s harmless differences.
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I’m wondering how Moses could know it was God for certain, if he wasn’t allowed to see him. It could have been Don Rickles in drag, for all we know.
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So your god doesn’t have a physical body… but apparently he has a back that he can show to moses? I just love these contradictions. I at least give you credit for not cursing us out and at least being calm about it, but that still does not excuse stupidity.
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First off, let me thank you for not wanting me to be tortured for all eternity. Second, as has been stated before, not all Pastafarians are atheists. I’ve considered myself a Pastafarian even when I was Catholic, although I am an atheist now.
In your letter, you say that I cannot claim you don’t exist simply because I never met you. As a matter of fact, I know for certain thatyou exist simply by the fact that you sent this e-mail. However, I cannot kow if you are who you say you are. You could be Soo, or Ashely, or Bobby Henderson, God himself, or even a bouncy ball that just bounced on the correct keys. The possibilities are endless. It is implied in your letter that you are Christian, but if you are just a bouncy ball, you of course are not Christian. Similarly, we know that God’s followers do at least exist because they left us the Bible, but we don’t know that what they say in the Bible is true. It could all easily be made up, or maybe God did exist but was really just some stupid drunk in town.
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Yes, I can’t be sure wether you exist or not, but your letter is a dead giveaway, don’t you think? But God never answered me. I asked a lot of questions some years ago, but I got no answer, so I thought, ‘What the heck, let’s talk so some other diety’. And that didn’t work either, but that’s another story.
And the calmness and grammar of your letter is pretty boring by the way. If you say, we are crazy you should say it in a funny way, making a fool of yourself in the process.
Ta Ta, T
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If you really loved your god, he would let you eat(partake) him everyday with a nice bottle of red on the side. There is nothing wrong with the christian god, but he doesn’t have an afterlife with beer volcanoes and strippers.
Honestly, its all about your belief system. If a website that exalts pasta and evolution is enough to shake your faith, then you really have NO faith at all!
RAMEN!
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I am beginning to think there is some xian group that makes it a sacred duty to send us posts that stop us from our sacred duty to drink beer because we feel moved to reply at great length. I am sure that this insight is a divine revelation and proof of the power of his noodley appendage, and I’m off up the pub. Soo, maybe I’ll see you there. It’s better than church, honest.
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“God himself stated in the Old Testament to Moses who also said he wanted to see God, if Moses was to actually see God face to face, he (Moses) would die due to God’s holiness, BUT God did pass by, covered Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s back. Even with that Moses face glowed from seeing God’s holiness.”
the story of goldilocks also says that she ate from porridge made by bears. Goldilocks is a little like the bible, as in not a real story.
If your god really existed, there wouldn’t be half as much trouble in the world as their is today. why spend all your time devoting this life to the bible when you could live it? Heaven can’t be that great if it follows all the bibles’ rules…
RAmen
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You are a testament to circular logic.
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You tell us not to stereotype christians. You say that you are not all condeming and judgemental, but then you also say that we’re all bitter and angry people, making you a judgemental person. Bitter and Angry people go to other peoples’ religous website and post hate mail like you have done. Just because you don’t type in capitals and swear in our post it doesn’t make you any differnt to the other hate mailers that do. You all take one look at a religion different to yours and immediately regard it as bitter, agressive and wrong. And you all follow the exact same typical guidelines and philosophy in you posts: You’re wrong, I’m right, shut up. Soo and fellow bitter christians, you’re arogance and bitterness created this website.
Post script: Of course you’re all closed minded, don’t be ridiculous.
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You say do not judge you, and that you are not all the same. I agree fully with you here. Not all Christians are like YOU. They are generally worse.
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Congratulations to you Soo, you are the author of the first polite comment made by a Christian in this site I’ve ever seen!
I’d like to thank you for your concern, but actually I’m not angry with God, it’s just that I don’t see how is it that a book written by men is so right and holy… and why is Christianity the right religion, if there were lots of religions before it, and so similar to it too…
Come to think of it, if you were taugh since you were born that the true and only god is the FSM, you’d find it strange to believe in a god called God, right? ^^
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Thanks for being so nice. But, unconditional niceness is overated, you say that we should believe in God through faith alone. Is that really enough?
I’d like to also make a point, assuming that there is a god, he is either unimaginably cruel, or he just doesn’t give a damn, because ‘he’ kills hundreds of millions of people per day from diseases like TB, AIDS/HIV, cancer, and countless others, your god should start showing some compassion, ours does.
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The whole world has been hurt by Christians. The advancements in our technology such as medicine have long been delayed. The “Dark Ages” were “dark” because knowledge and research were just witchcraft and anyone trying to advance science and medicine was tortured to death (because Christians just weren’t the peace loving people they are today). No point in finding cures for illnesses when we can just pray to God right? If you were doing chemotherapy would you quit it for prayer? But the hurt Christianity has caused me and the whole world isn’t why I don’t worship God. I don’t worship the Christian God because it makes no logical sense to do so. Why would a God gift me with a large frontal lobe capable of reason and logic and then tell me the only way to salvation is to live my whole life by not using it and blindly following OTHER MEN who claim to know Gods will better than I? God wouldn’t do that, though the Devil might (he’s an interesting fellow who might pull such a prank). Either the Christian God is DUMB (by definition of defying reason and logic) or Christianity is DUMB, but certainly for Him to exist one of these conditions must be true.
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We are nor bitter nor angry at God. In fact, we cannot be bitter or angry at something that we believe probably do not exist.
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I’ve myself talked to your God for a long time, and all of a sudden I realized that I did not need it and that I had no reason to believe that it existed.
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Plus you argue for God invisibleness with bible quotes, which in fact must be reliable since their the word of God. And how do we know they’re the word of God? It’s written in the bible, which is reliable because it is the word of God. Doesn’t sound a bit weird?
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Peace and pastas! FSM bless you.
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“God himself stated in the Bible that HE is Spirit, does not have a physical body.”
“BUT God did pass by, covered Moses eyes, then removed his hand so Moses can at least see God’s back.”
How the hell does he not have a body, but can show off his ass to Moses?
Also, how are we in his image if he doesn’t have a body… not to mention, why the hell would we be a bunch of raping, pillaging, and warring dipshits?
If God put his image on anything (although he doesn’t seem to have one, according to you), it would be a cockroach (watch the first episode of Heroes) or spaghetti.
And we all know it’s spaghetti. We have a graph.
RAmen
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this just another form of christians contradicting themselves. you say that god has no body, and that no one knows what he looks like, but why does the bible say that god created us in his own image?
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OK, here is your problem:
“I hope you would at least try to ask God if He is for real, then somehow show you He really does exist.”
You don’t need to ask someone if they are real, you obviously know they are real if you are asking them a question… You wouldn’t ask an invisable little pink unicorn if he is real, becasue you know he is not. So asking this question of god is not an ernst attempt to inquire about his reality, it is a thinly vailed chiristian mindgame: You WILL find that god is real if you ask him this question, not because he actually is real, but because you already believe he is. Falacy, Falacy, Falacy.
Well I don’t believe he is real, soo.
And there is no sign, and nothing anyone can ever say to me to convince me that he is. Never. Ever. Amen.
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Dear Soo,
I, for one, has never been hurt by your god. Well, there is the matter of my old neighbour’s son, and some sixty others, dying in a fire three dimwits started because they weren’t allowed to join the party, but since I’m an atheist, I don’t blame the christian god for that. If you feel that’s the sort of thing your god does to people, you’re free to do so as far as I’m concerned.
In fact, the god you present sounds like a nice guy… but wait, is it a guy, or some manner of ghost? (How CAN your god be a ‘He’ if he doesn’t have a body that follows anatomical guidelines, anyway?) As for not to create any images of him, most churches (all, really) that I’ve been in have failed in this directive – Jesus on the cross, Jesus on stained-glass windows, paintings symbolising the Trinity (OK, so no picture of the Father) – so unless you’re a Calvinist or follower of some other offshoot of Christianity I haven’t heard of, I’ll consider the churches to be a more accurate representation than the individual. Or maybe you’re really a muslim? I understand they don’t approve of likenesses of their god OR their prophet.
I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy the website – I found it stupendously hilarious. I don’t know if I laughed so much when I was a child. But, like I said, I have nothing against your god or your belief (well, I don’t believe in either, so it’s probably more accurate to say I don’t care enough to take a position in the matter). If you read further, though, it’s quite obvious why His Noodliness made himself known unto the world. Personally, though, I’m more concerned about whether or not I’m real. If the answer is yes, I can move on to worry about my day-to-day affairs. If not… I get worried. I don’t need a book to do that.
Faith in the unseen, you say. I haven’t seen my conscience anywhere, or the inside of my mind, yet I follow them as though in thrall.
I pleases my old and dark soul that you’re open-minded, but you still don’t seem flexible enough to grasp the full meaning of Pastafarianism, nor how it doesn’t in fact target your garden-variety christian. And saddened as you are by this website, how sad were you when you found out that your god would punish those who beleive in other gods through seven generations?
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“We are not all the same. We are not all condemning or judgemental. We are not all closed minded. ”
– this is wonderful material.
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RAmen
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Soo,
You poor deluded person, just because somthing is written down does not make it a fact. That is why we have fiction and religious sections in bookshops.
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How can you say such abominations as this fsm, this is blasphemy! And you say where is the evidence for our God above all others? Ill tell you where our God predicts the future, can your stupid pun do that! And if you will continue to spread this foolish mockery then your will know the the wrath of the Almighty God, He will come and strike you with every cruel thing, the LORD will strike thee with fire and hail, and great earthquakes, He will go so far as to throw the stars themselves down upon you. And yes it is true that when you read this you will say “this christian is a fool, he is judgmental and always pushing his Faith” but on the Day Of The LORD, then you will remember what I have said and there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth AMEN!!!
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My first visit to your website although I’ve heard of the FSM and his noodly appendage before! I like your photos. They’re very cute, if that’s not irreverent.
I’m a Christian so want to support Soo, and I appreciate the polite tone of Soo’s comment and many of the replies above. It does no good to any “side” to get rude and offensive. In my experience people don’t persuade other people anyway, and in that sense arguing is pretty futile generally – people just become more entrenched.
Cape Buffalo, above says, “And there is no sign, and nothing anyone can ever say to me to convince me that he is. Never. Ever. Amen.” and I think that sums it up for those of us who’re convinced of our position, atheist, Christian or whatever. I’m equally entrenched. Because I’ve now experienced what I believe (you will disagree obviously) to be a living relationship with God for several decades, you might as well try to persuade me that my earthly father doesn’t exist (I know you haven’t met my earthly dad, so you might think he doesn’t exist, but I KNOW he does).
I have no intention of trying to convince you though. And what I say below is to defend my belief, not attack yours. One of the things I believe is that God gives you free will and y’all are exercising that in choosing your path.
On the other hand, IF it turns out that I’m right, I’ll have lost absolutely nothing. I’m having a wonderful life as a Christian, and it’s led me to the fascinating world of prison chaplaincy, and also marriage to a kind, honest man. It’s given me a deep sense of peace and joy which is with me even when I go through times that are neither peaceful nor joyful. You will say I’m deluded. Even if I am, so what?! If I’m right, I will be able to go to heaven when I die. If I’m wrong, I won’t be lying in my coffin thinking, “Damn, I backed the wrong horse. I should have gone with atheism.” I won’t be thinking anything. So I’ll never know if I’m wrong. If you’re wrong, though, you’ll find out one day.
I know some Christians in history (or at least those claiming to be Christians) have done appalling things, but not all Christians have. We are all human and stuff up often, but we’re sometimes actually quite likeable. I have many friends who’re atheists and we get on great!
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“You wouldn’t ask an invisible little pink unicorn if he is real, because you know he is not.” This is NOT the best approach, Just because the Christians are being unfriendly , does not mean we should go & pick on the followers of the church of the invisible pink unicorn & other “Respectable” churches that refrained from holy wars & inquisitions (NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!) Granted Scientology is not as respected as Voodoo, the Harte Krisnas, the moonies, & the more established alternative religions, but then again, we dont want to single any of them out either as faith in anything, without proof, leaves ALL possibilities open… Sadly, organ donation is swelling the ranks of many faiths as brain donors are vulnerable to assimilation by fundamentalists……
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“We are not all closed minded.” Wot? I haven’t laughed so much since grandma caught her tits in the mangle.
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