Comments on: Canadian Pastafarian angers Catholic church http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:34:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ben Tremblay http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-713995 Ben Tremblay Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:58:27 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-713995 The point of FSM is not to make fun of other religions. Doing so would make us assholes, and, I quote from the gospel, "pastafarians are not assholes." The point is to ensure pseudo-science is never considered science, and that it says the fuck away from our government. Religion is already a plague to the planet, and this one is entirely made to anchor the other religions in place... to keep them from completely taking over... Anyone who disagrees should re-read the open letter to the Kansas City School Board and think about it. So, yes, this was a childish and horrible thing to do. It in no way represents the ideas of FSM. This boy is an immature, spiteful teenager who is just angry and wants to attack something. (More or less) The point of FSM is not to make fun of other religions.

Doing so would make us assholes, and, I quote from the gospel, “pastafarians are not assholes.”

The point is to ensure pseudo-science is never considered science, and that it says the fuck away from our government.

Religion is already a plague to the planet, and this one is entirely made to anchor the other religions in place… to keep them from completely taking over…

Anyone who disagrees should re-read the open letter to the Kansas City School Board and think about it.

So, yes, this was a childish and horrible thing to do. It in no way represents the ideas of FSM.

This boy is an immature, spiteful teenager who is just angry and wants to attack something. (More or less)

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]]> By: Vexorian http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-675648 Vexorian Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:31:29 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-675648 I am a pastafarian as well, I don't think this is a great way, the reason we all dislike religion is when they bully forcing their believes on us, when atheists do the same they lower themselves to that level, and that's not nice. I am a pastafarian as well, I don’t think this is a great way, the reason we all dislike religion is when they bully forcing their believes on us, when atheists do the same they lower themselves to that level, and that’s not nice.

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]]> By: psst http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-671263 psst Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:40:21 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-671263 To all who support the removal of fsmdude's videos, You think you are angry?! I am angry!! I am angry that once again supposedly 'holy people' are using threats of bodily harm to intimidate a 19 year old boy into taking down his videos. Wow that's pretty rich! I have to see lurid, demeaning, pornographic videos/pictures/comments about women and young girls in every single facet of my life in the name of "free speech" and "entertainment for men". I am subjected to horrific, false pictures and information about abortion; my 10 year daughter has learned from our society, that if you are not Christian you do not dare tell your beliefs. She's not even sure what will happen, but she feels somehow afraid despite the fact that we tell her that everyone has a right to their beliefs. And you people are angry and upset because a person took a cracker that *he* asserts is the body of Christ and did "mean things" to it????? Are you f**king kidding me???? Hell! My daughter's right to live free from pervasive, sexist, demeaning images be damned! Let's *really* go after this guy ----- I mean, *he* broke a cracker, *wilfully*, probably whilst laughing maniacally! Is there no justice!!!! For God's sake, you don't like the video - FINE! Debate, discuss, rant, rage, be proactive but really, I mean it, for *God*'s sake, ACT LIKE AN ADULT. Honestly, to threaten and intimidate another human's *personal safety* because he put a f**king cracker in a blender????? Please tell me, at the playground in the sandbox, do you guys all wallop the kid next to you because he makes a picture of your mom and then jumps on it????? I'm thinking that your god, whoever he or she is, would probably prefer you stick to addressing the issues at hand, rather than stooping to threats. I'm thinking that, when you stoop to threats you not only make yourself look bad but make the rest of us wonder - did you really have nothing more powerful in all of your godly teachings to fight back with than "Nja nja now I'm going to tell your Daddy on you and tell everyone where you live nja nja". I'm thinking that when this sort of thing occurs, it reminds me far, far too much of a little thing called "suppression of ideas in the name of ideology" which reminds me far too much of some *little* things involving people like Hilter and the Taliban. I'm thinking that we, as a society, can do better than rejoicing that an *allegedly* offensive website (how am I now to know, if I can't see it?!) was taken off for the wrong reasons. I'm thinking that, if I was your god, I'd be mighty embarrassed that I hadn't taught you better. To all who support the removal of fsmdude’s videos,

You think you are angry?! I am angry!! I am angry that once again supposedly ‘holy people’ are using threats of bodily harm to intimidate a 19 year old boy into taking down his videos.

Wow that’s pretty rich! I have to see lurid, demeaning, pornographic videos/pictures/comments about women and young girls in every single facet of my life in the name of “free speech” and “entertainment for men”.

I am subjected to horrific, false pictures and information about abortion; my 10 year daughter has learned from our society, that if you are not Christian you do not dare tell your beliefs. She’s not even sure what will happen, but she feels somehow afraid despite the fact that we tell her that everyone has a right to their beliefs.

And you people are angry and upset because a person took a cracker that *he* asserts is the body of Christ and did “mean things” to it????? Are you f**king kidding me???? Hell! My daughter’s right to live free from pervasive, sexist, demeaning images be damned! Let’s *really* go after this guy —– I mean, *he* broke a cracker, *wilfully*, probably whilst laughing maniacally! Is there no justice!!!!

For God’s sake, you don’t like the video – FINE! Debate, discuss, rant, rage, be proactive but really, I mean it, for *God*’s sake, ACT LIKE AN ADULT. Honestly, to threaten and intimidate another human’s *personal safety* because he put a f**king cracker in a blender?????

Please tell me, at the playground in the sandbox, do you guys all wallop the kid next to you because he makes a picture of your mom and then jumps on it?????

I’m thinking that your god, whoever he or she is, would probably prefer you stick to addressing the issues at hand, rather than stooping to threats.

I’m thinking that, when you stoop to threats you not only make yourself look bad but make the rest of us wonder – did you really have nothing more powerful in all of your godly teachings to fight back with than “Nja nja now I’m going to tell your Daddy on you and tell everyone where you live nja nja”.

I’m thinking that when this sort of thing occurs, it reminds me far, far too much of a little thing called “suppression of ideas in the name of ideology” which reminds me far too much of some *little* things involving people like Hilter and the Taliban.

I’m thinking that we, as a society, can do better than rejoicing that an *allegedly* offensive website (how am I now to know, if I can’t see it?!) was taken off for the wrong reasons.

I’m thinking that, if I was your god, I’d be mighty embarrassed that I hadn’t taught you better.

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]]> By: james http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-668065 james Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:49:10 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-668065 @Justin The whole point isn't to make fun of religions, that would be blastfamous. Surely the point is to prove how illogical and ridiculous they are? Well all of them apart from FSM. @Justin The whole point isn’t to make fun of religions, that would be blastfamous. Surely the point is to prove how illogical and ridiculous they are? Well all of them apart from FSM.

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]]> By: Colonel Reginald James Putershmit III http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-666891 Colonel Reginald James Putershmit III Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:22:27 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-666891 This is why people hate atheists. You can believe what you believe, just don't f**k with what others believe unless there open to discussion. Simple manners. Now I was raised Catholic, and have become an agnostic/atheist of my own choosing. Most legitimate atheists are atheists because either they see no grounds for the existence of god(s) or are tired of religion's pretentious, hypocritical, and often belligerent nature. However, I see more and more people becoming atheists because its the 'cool' thing to do, by sticking it to 'the man' and being a 'rebel' instead of converting because you believe it. Don't interfere with others business unless it either interferes with you or is directly harmful in nature. Nobody like it when you just start preaching things to them. Why do you think Jehovah's Witnesses are so disliked? Why has the world taken a stance against radical Islamics? Or the persecution in the Spanish Inquisition? Sure, these are extreme examples, but they all stem from the same idea: trying to force your beliefs on others. You shouldn't care if a catholic says to another catholic the the eucharist represents the body of christ, just as they shouldn't care if you say to another atheist that there is no god. your beliefs are your own, do not impose them on others. And likewise, don't try to blatantly insult others on a personal opinion, particularly if it has not to do with you. This is why people hate atheists. You can believe what you believe, just don’t f**k with what others believe unless there open to discussion. Simple manners.

Now I was raised Catholic, and have become an agnostic/atheist of my own choosing. Most legitimate atheists are atheists because either they see no grounds for the existence of god(s) or are tired of religion’s pretentious, hypocritical, and often belligerent nature. However, I see more and more people becoming atheists because its the ‘cool’ thing to do, by sticking it to ‘the man’ and being a ‘rebel’ instead of converting because you believe it.

Don’t interfere with others business unless it either interferes with you or is directly harmful in nature. Nobody like it when you just start preaching things to them. Why do you think Jehovah’s Witnesses are so disliked? Why has the world taken a stance against radical Islamics? Or the persecution in the Spanish Inquisition? Sure, these are extreme examples, but they all stem from the same idea: trying to force your beliefs on others. You shouldn’t care if a catholic says to another catholic the the eucharist represents the body of christ, just as they shouldn’t care if you say to another atheist that there is no god. your beliefs are your own, do not impose them on others. And likewise, don’t try to blatantly insult others on a personal opinion, particularly if it has not to do with you.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-666279 Mark Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:40:05 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-666279 As a Catholic Priest and Pastafarian I am distressed by what this man did. Let me ask everyone: If someone came into your home, took something you did not want them to have, and you found it on a web site the next day destroyed with a running commentary of taunting language toward you, how would you feel? Upset and disappointed at the very least I would bet. In case you think this analogy doesn’t fit because the Eucharist is given to everyone, you are wrong. All are welcome at Catholic liturgies, but we do ask that if you do not agree with us on what the Eucharist is, that you do not receive it. It is not only a mystical reality, it is a sign of Catholic unity. To denigrate it is to denigrate every Catholic. Also, I need to comment on the mistakes in Theology that have been made in these posts – and evidently by Dominique himself. (I joined this discussion after his videos were removed). First, we believe that the Eucharist is the RISEN Lord’s presence – not a human body curled up in a little disc, or part of a human body. DNA tests would not work on a spiritual reality. This is not unique to Catholicism. Almost every Faith tradition holds that God is powerfully present in various objects, images, prayers or places. Aa Pastafarians are we condoning the desecration of anywhere that people believe God's presence is? Second, Philosophy tells us that to try to prove that something doesn’t exist is illogical – and thus, un-Pastafarian. One can only prove – to a certain degree – that various things are present in a given place at a given time within the context of the scientific observer. Third, since Catholics believe that the presence of God in the Eucharist is the risen Lord, and not a physical human body, no one can “torture” it and more than they can “tickle” it and make it laugh. It would be like taking the presence of Christ that many Christians believe is in the Word of God, proclaimed verbally, and trying to desecrate the sound waves that carry the words. One doesn’t end up doing much to the sound waves, but one does make oneself look petty and un-intelligent. As a Catholic Priest I do believe in some scientifically unverifiable phenomenon. But I do not believe in an unreasonable or un-logical Faith. As a Pastafarian I was happy to challenge anything in my faith or any other faith traditions that defy reason or logic. But as neither a Catholic or Pastafarian can I condone taking things from others by deceit and deliberately and publicly defiling them. As a Catholic Priest and Pastafarian I am distressed by what this man did. Let me ask everyone: If someone came into your home, took something you did not want them to have, and you found it on a web site the next day destroyed with a running commentary of taunting language toward you, how would you feel? Upset and disappointed at the very least I would bet. In case you think this analogy doesn’t fit because the Eucharist is given to everyone, you are wrong. All are welcome at Catholic liturgies, but we do ask that if you do not agree with us on what the Eucharist is, that you do not receive it. It is not only a mystical reality, it is a sign of Catholic unity. To denigrate it is to denigrate every Catholic. Also, I need to comment on the mistakes in Theology that have been made in these posts – and evidently by Dominique himself. (I joined this discussion after his videos were removed). First, we believe that the Eucharist is the RISEN Lord’s presence – not a human body curled up in a little disc, or part of a human body. DNA tests would not work on a spiritual reality. This is not unique to Catholicism. Almost every Faith tradition holds that God is powerfully present in various objects, images, prayers or places. Aa Pastafarians are we condoning the desecration of anywhere that people believe God’s presence is? Second, Philosophy tells us that to try to prove that something doesn’t exist is illogical – and thus, un-Pastafarian. One can only prove – to a certain degree – that various things are present in a given place at a given time within the context of the scientific observer. Third, since Catholics believe that the presence of God in the Eucharist is the risen Lord, and not a physical human body, no one can “torture” it and more than they can “tickle” it and make it laugh. It would be like taking the presence of Christ that many Christians believe is in the Word of God, proclaimed verbally, and trying to desecrate the sound waves that carry the words. One doesn’t end up doing much to the sound waves, but one does make oneself look petty and un-intelligent. As a Catholic Priest I do believe in some scientifically unverifiable phenomenon. But I do not believe in an unreasonable or un-logical Faith. As a Pastafarian I was happy to challenge anything in my faith or any other faith traditions that defy reason or logic. But as neither a Catholic or Pastafarian can I condone taking things from others by deceit and deliberately and publicly defiling them.

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]]> By: XX_EE http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-666122 XX_EE Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:21:19 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-666122 Haven't read the comments yet; please pardon if this duplicates other remarks. Having been a devout Catholic acolyte in my youth, I'd like to remind our Christian friends that the Eucharistic wafer is not holy until it has been blessed by a priest -- and I strenuously doubt that this young man would have been able to obtain blessed wafers. I'm sure he ordered his un-blessed wafers over the Internet -- many sites offer them. I haven't seen the videos yet, so I can't make any claims re the content other than to affirm that he is not desecrating anything holy. And he is most likely supporting Catholic religious by purchasing their altar goods. So, please don't get your knickers in a twist over this issue when so many of our fellows are suffering and dying from poverty and the slow starvation of fascism (aka socialism for the rich) and imperialism. Please use your energies to help those around you -- spreading love will make you feel much better than wallowing in hate. I'd also like to point out that FSMism's primary purpose is not to mock religion. Please read Bobby Henderson's open letter to the Kansas School Board. The primary purpose is to mock the teaching of religion in the science classroom. Since I am sure that you would want your children to receive the best education possible, I hope we can all agree that that is a worthy goal. Re the use of FSMism to mock religion, it is unfortunate that so many Pastafarians adopt a mocking tone -- it reduces the common denominator of the discussion to mud-slinging and name-calling. However, our religious friends might want to think seriously about some of the points being made: if it seems obvious to you that FSMism is a made-up religion, then it seems equally obvious that your religion seems equally made up to someone who doesn't follow it. Thus, Christianity seems made-up to Muslims and Jews, Islam seems made-up to Christians, and all religions seem made-up to non-religious people -- all religion looks like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and leprechauns to the un-indoctrinated or recovering post-indoctrinated. Please try to remove your blinkers and think rationally about your religion and why it doesn't make sense to non-followers. Here is a great place to start: http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/. Being religious is fine as long as you really understand what you are doing and why (because it makes you happy) ... and as long as you can be tolerant of those who do not follow your religion. Signed, XX_EE, a Born Catholic but Born-Again Pastafarian (Carbo Diem) Haven’t read the comments yet; please pardon if this duplicates other remarks.

Having been a devout Catholic acolyte in my youth, I’d like to remind our Christian friends that the Eucharistic wafer is not holy until it has been blessed by a priest — and I strenuously doubt that this young man would have been able to obtain blessed wafers. I’m sure he ordered his un-blessed wafers over the Internet — many sites offer them. I haven’t seen the videos yet, so I can’t make any claims re the content other than to affirm that he is not desecrating anything holy. And he is most likely supporting Catholic religious by purchasing their altar goods. So, please don’t get your knickers in a twist over this issue when so many of our fellows are suffering and dying from poverty and the slow starvation of fascism (aka socialism for the rich) and imperialism. Please use your energies to help those around you — spreading love will make you feel much better than wallowing in hate.

I’d also like to point out that FSMism’s primary purpose is not to mock religion. Please read Bobby Henderson’s open letter to the Kansas School Board. The primary purpose is to mock the teaching of religion in the science classroom. Since I am sure that you would want your children to receive the best education possible, I hope we can all agree that that is a worthy goal.

Re the use of FSMism to mock religion, it is unfortunate that so many Pastafarians adopt a mocking tone — it reduces the common denominator of the discussion to mud-slinging and name-calling. However, our religious friends might want to think seriously about some of the points being made: if it seems obvious to you that FSMism is a made-up religion, then it seems equally obvious that your religion seems equally made up to someone who doesn’t follow it. Thus, Christianity seems made-up to Muslims and Jews, Islam seems made-up to Christians, and all religions seem made-up to non-religious people — all religion looks like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and leprechauns to the un-indoctrinated or recovering post-indoctrinated. Please try to remove your blinkers and think rationally about your religion and why it doesn’t make sense to non-followers. Here is a great place to start: http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/.

Being religious is fine as long as you really understand what you are doing and why (because it makes you happy) … and as long as you can be tolerant of those who do not follow your religion.

Signed,
XX_EE,
a Born Catholic but Born-Again Pastafarian
(Carbo Diem)

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]]> By: Zane http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-665885 Zane Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:01:04 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-665885 @noodleguy #71 I agree that the videos were a bit immature, but supported him because of his right to free speech, but he is in Canada so the First Ammendment doesn't apply here. We have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms instead. @noodleguy #71

I agree that the videos were a bit immature, but supported him because of his right to free speech, but he is in Canada so the First Ammendment doesn’t apply here. We have the Charter of Rights and Freedoms instead.

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]]> By: neal http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-665747 neal Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:32:23 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-665747 @Lucifer. I bet if she ever gets to sit in the big chair in the Oval Office, she'll have Vera Wang design a "Nuclear War-Starting" outfit special for her. @Lucifer. I bet if she ever gets to sit in the big chair in the Oval Office, she’ll have Vera Wang design a “Nuclear War-Starting” outfit special for her.

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]]> By: Joe Fogey http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-665723 Joe Fogey Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:21:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-665723 Hey, Tomek, what an awful thing to do with pasta. First, why don't you get proper long spaghetti like grown-ups eat. Second, you put the lid on the pot to cook it - that makes it sticky. Thirdly, eating it with tomato ketchup is really gross. Tomato ketchup tastes awful. Bacon, muhrooms, anchovies and olives would be much better. Hey, Tomek, what an awful thing to do with pasta. First, why don’t you get proper long spaghetti like grown-ups eat. Second, you put the lid on the pot to cook it – that makes it sticky. Thirdly, eating it with tomato ketchup is really gross. Tomato ketchup tastes awful. Bacon, muhrooms, anchovies and olives would be much better.

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]]> By: noodleguy http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-665719 noodleguy Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:14:24 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-665719 fsmdude took all the videos down himself, so the argument is pointless now anyway. I personally thought they were immature and annoying, but honestly that's free speech for you. It was a stupid argument anyway, read the first amendment people. fsmdude took all the videos down himself, so the argument is pointless now anyway.

I personally thought they were immature and annoying, but honestly that’s free speech for you. It was a stupid argument anyway, read the first amendment people.

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]]> By: Tomek http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-665502 Tomek Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:17:54 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-665502 To understand whole new world of sarcasm you need to see my youtube video, as I mentioned before. :P To understand whole new world of sarcasm you need to see my youtube video, as I mentioned before. :P

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]]> By: Lucifer http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-664405 Lucifer Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:16:38 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-664405 @ Neal. I love your description of Tomek. Are you one of the Christian Hillbilly redneck Bush supporting white trash Republicans who gave us this mess and expects us to believe your stupid, illiterate, irrational, nonsensical creed under threat of eternal torture? By the time I got to the word torture, tears were running down my cheeks. I bet you that Tomek also likes Mc Insane and the Beauty Bimbo Queen just a few breaths away from the nuclear codes….. Lucifer @ Neal. I love your description of Tomek. Are you one of the Christian Hillbilly redneck Bush supporting white trash Republicans who gave us this mess and expects us to believe your stupid, illiterate, irrational, nonsensical creed under threat of eternal torture? By the time I got to the word torture, tears were running down my cheeks. I bet you that Tomek also likes Mc Insane and the Beauty Bimbo Queen just a few breaths away from the nuclear codes…..

Lucifer

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]]> By: ODDONE http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-664281 ODDONE Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:12:53 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-664281 So when the "blessed wafer" is eaten and it becomes the "body of Jesus," does that make Catholics cannibals? Luckily, eating our blessed one only results in a full stomach...yummy. RAmen So when the “blessed wafer” is eaten and it becomes the “body of Jesus,” does that make Catholics cannibals?

Luckily, eating our blessed one only results in a full stomach…yummy.

RAmen

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]]> By: GetFuzzy http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-662910 GetFuzzy Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:11:02 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-662910 Right on Justin. I'm also a new Pastafarian, hello. Talking to this Justing v 63 - October 24th, 2008 at - Justin Says: Anyone comparing this to “racism” as a few of you are (talking to you GraveOne,) is a retard. Second, for any of you dipshits that say “this is disrespectful towards other religions” needs to get a clue. THE WHOLE IDEA OF FSM IS TO MAKE FUN OF RELIGIONS. Damn, were you kids dropped on your heads as children or something? You whining about so called “hate speech” is pathetic as well, it isn’t hate speech, it is FREE SPEECH. Religion has fucked with society for too long, this is our chance to fuck back. Right on Justin.

I’m also a new Pastafarian, hello.

Talking to this Justing v

63 – October 24th, 2008 at – Justin Says:

Anyone comparing this to “racism” as a few of you are (talking to you GraveOne,) is a retard. Second, for any of you dipshits that say “this is disrespectful towards other religions” needs to get a clue. THE WHOLE IDEA OF FSM IS TO MAKE FUN OF RELIGIONS. Damn, were you kids dropped on your heads as children or something? You whining about so called “hate speech” is pathetic as well, it isn’t hate speech, it is FREE SPEECH. Religion has fucked with society for too long, this is our chance to fuck back.

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]]> By: neal http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-662855 neal Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:14:20 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-662855 @Tomek. Are you one of the Christian Hillybilly redneck Bush supporting white trash Republicans who gave us this mess and expects us to believe your stupid, illiterate, irrational, nonsensical screed under threat of eternal torture? Bet you think if one of us gets cancer or has a heart attack that it's the old guy in the sky personally reaching out and touching us with the finger of his vengeance. Yet in the next breath I bet that if a small child gets cancer you'll be the first one to point out that "No one can understand the ways of the Lord". And, I bet, you don't even see the contradiction of holding these two positions in your mind even when I bring them into close justaposition for you. Bet you're really that lacking in self awareness, bet you're really that irrational and self-deluded. No wonder you hate us. It's a reflection of the hatred that wells from within, now isn't it. @Tomek. Are you one of the Christian Hillybilly redneck Bush supporting white trash Republicans who gave us this mess and expects us to believe your stupid, illiterate, irrational, nonsensical screed under threat of eternal torture? Bet you think if one of us gets cancer or has a heart attack that it’s the old guy in the sky personally reaching out and touching us with the finger of his vengeance.
Yet in the next breath I bet that if a small child gets cancer you’ll be the first one to point out that “No one can understand the ways of the Lord”.
And, I bet, you don’t even see the contradiction of holding these two positions in your mind even when I bring them into close justaposition for you.
Bet you’re really that lacking in self awareness, bet you’re really that irrational and self-deluded.
No wonder you hate us. It’s a reflection of the hatred that wells from within, now isn’t it.

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]]> By: D http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-662825 D Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:26:28 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-662825 I cannot say I agree with the desecration of what a following believes holy and does not hurt anyone is a good idea. I was raised catholic but now consider myself a pastafarian. All I have to say about this is that there are extremists in every group and they should not be held as representatives of their beliefs. The Eucharist does not hurt anybody nor does it force any incorrect facts on people. It is a piece of bread that has been blessed by a person who has strong enough beliefs in his religion to make a job out of it. Therefor since it is not hurting anyone I do not think it should be mutilated for no better reason than raising anger against for pure spite. I cannot say I agree with the desecration of what a following believes holy and does not hurt anyone is a good idea. I was raised catholic but now consider myself a pastafarian. All I have to say about this is that there are extremists in every group and they should not be held as representatives of their beliefs. The Eucharist does not hurt anybody nor does it force any incorrect facts on people. It is a piece of bread that has been blessed by a person who has strong enough beliefs in his religion to make a job out of it. Therefor since it is not hurting anyone I do not think it should be mutilated for no better reason than raising anger against for pure spite.

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]]> By: benji http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-662644 benji Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:27:38 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-662644 You see, what he did may not be ok, but yet he had to resign under threats, and that is really the problem, the shame, and it's unacceptable. This is not a good reason for somebody to resign. You see, what he did may not be ok, but yet he had to resign under threats, and that is really the problem, the shame, and it’s unacceptable. This is not a good reason for somebody to resign.

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]]> By: Justin http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-662323 Justin Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:36:18 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-662323 Anyone comparing this to "racism" as a few of you are (talking to you GraveOne,) is a retard. Second, for any of you dipshits that say "this is disrespectful towards other religions" needs to get a clue. THE WHOLE IDEA OF FSM IS TO MAKE FUN OF RELIGIONS. Damn, were you kids dropped on your heads as children or something? You whining about so called "hate speech" is pathetic as well, it isn't hate speech, it is FREE SPEECH. Religion has fucked with society for too long, this is our chance to fuck back. Anyone comparing this to “racism” as a few of you are (talking to you GraveOne,) is a retard. Second, for any of you dipshits that say “this is disrespectful towards other religions” needs to get a clue. THE WHOLE IDEA OF FSM IS TO MAKE FUN OF RELIGIONS. Damn, were you kids dropped on your heads as children or something? You whining about so called “hate speech” is pathetic as well, it isn’t hate speech, it is FREE SPEECH. Religion has fucked with society for too long, this is our chance to fuck back.

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]]> By: Orthar http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/fsmdude/#comment-662291 Orthar Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:46:12 +0000 http://www.venganza.org/2008/10/22/canadian-pastafarian-angers-catholic-church/#comment-662291 FSMdude is childish and an embarrassment to the church. One of these videos would have been plenty, and he didn't need to incorporate the FSM name into this shit, its making all Pastafarians look bad ... FSMdude is childish and an embarrassment to the church. One of these videos would have been plenty, and he didn’t need to incorporate the FSM name into this shit, its making all Pastafarians look bad …

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