This is a complete mockery of god. You all are going to hell for that.
P.S Don’t even think that a Damned spaghetti thing made-up by an asshole will save you.
-T
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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American
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I stumbled upon this site because of a button I saw on Northern Sun. I’ve done my research on religion and have spent time talking to everyone from atheists to zoroastrians. I was born catholic and I was happy till about 15 when I started to question it. I don’t know if I’ve ever come across the right religion but Pastafarianism makes the most sense to me. If for no other reason than it pisses people off and that’s always a good thing.
May his noodly appendage keep you safe for all time.
V
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@197 flemish girl, thanks :) im glad you enjoyed it :) one must do what one can to help the unenlightened lol for does it not say , on some wall somewhere , before enlightenment, eat meatballs and pasta in sauce. After enlightenment , eat meatballs and pasta in sauce …
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I just watched a video on YouTube entitled ‘Attention Texas Voters’. All followes of the FSM should watch it immediately and set to work. Shocking.
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Let’s give ourselves a pat on the back. A COMPLETE mockery means we were 100% effective. Go Pastafarians!
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OMG (pardon the pun) I just stumbled across this site. Pastafarians..LOL.
You have made my day. You even have emblems for cars and such. This may catch on.
Ramen, Ramen,
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Point-by-point irrefutable refutations to “T:”
“This is a complete mockery of god.”
- Well, duh! That’s the idea.
“You all are going to hell for that.”
- This statement is not supported by the text of The Gospel of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, which is the inerrant and infallible Word of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. For proof of the inerrancy of The Word of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, look no further than The Word of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. According to The Prophet Bobby Henderson (see next item), hell is simply another manifestation of FSM Heaven, but with stale beer and ugly strippers (Page 83, Paragraph 4), which, upon reflection, DOES seem hellish.
“Don’t even think that a Damned spaghetti thing made-up by an asshole will save you.
- Don’t blaspheme! His name is The Flying Spaghetti Monster, not “Damned spaghetti thing.” On the other hand, he doesn’t really care what you call him (see The First I’d Rather You Didn’t; if you’re not familiar with The Eight I’d Rather You Didn’ts, you can look them up on the internets, or just wait until they are displayed in every courthouse and government building in the United States), go ahead and blaspheme if you want. It just makes your pasta taste overcooked.
- The Flying Spaghetti Monster is most certainly NOT made up. He revealed himself to The Prophet Bobby Henderson in a Never-Ending Pasta Bowl (how appropriate, don’t you think?) at The Olive Garden, and told of his existence via the Parable of Mosey The Pirate (http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/The-Flying-Spaghetti-Monster-266455.html). The Prophet Bobby Henderson was the only one at the table, and The Flying Spaghetti Monster spoke to The Prophet Bobby in a secret language that only The Prophet Bobby Henderson could understand, therefore The Revelation of Pasta to The Prophet Bobby Henderson must be true. Or not.
- I believe you mean to say “made up.” The hyphenated form of “made up” (i.e., “made-up”) forms either an adjective or a compound noun. In either case, the dependent clause in the second part of the sentence lacks a verb, which renders the statement an incomplete sentence. This one is actually true (see http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/hyphens.asp)
- Strictly speaking, an “asshole” is the hole in an ass which forms a passageway for fecal material exiting the distal colon. I will grant that the word “asshole” has a colloquial meaning indicating a “a stupid, incompetent, or detestable person” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/asshole). However, it is extremely unlikely that The Flying Spaghetti Monster would choose to reveal The Parable of Mosey The Pirate (and, necessarily, the source of The Infallible – more or less – Gospel of The Flying Spaghetti Monster) to such a person. Many (now discredited) mythological stories have similar underpinnings. For example, in the fable known as “The New Testament,” the character of Jesus did not reveal himself as the “son of god” to the deceitful and traitorous Judas. Or maybe he did, I don’t know. The history of The Book of Mormon provides further evidence: God would not have communicated directly with a greedy, illiterate, war-mongering polygamist. Oops! Turns out he did. Boy am I embarrassed!
- Finally, luckily we don’t need The Flying Spaghetti Monster to save us, although we will save leftover pasta. However, The Flying Spaghetti Monster is an ephemeral entity, and leftover pasta won’t taste better the next day like soup will. This is why many restaurants now serve Flying Spaghetti Monster-friendly meals which include the innovative inclusion of a choice between soup and salad. Salad, though, gets all wilty and limp in the refrigerator, which is why Orthodox Pastafarians invariably order the soup. Or dessert.
I hope this post helps clarify some of your confusion with regard to The Flying Spaghetti Monster.
May you be touched by his noodly appendage.
RAmen!
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Woohoo 100% effective, nice!
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I was over at Answer Bag last night doing my best to gather converts, seems many already are. His noodley appendage reaches out to the internet heathens without judgment and gathers them in much liketh the ever popular Spagetti Feasts thrown throughout the year at FSM temples (Firehouses, Women’s Auxiliary fundraisers,SaveanXian.org,Olive Garden etc)
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Oh, forgive me Oh Noodley One.
RAmen.
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@ Patty:
May catch on? MAY catch on?
It WILL catch on, for the FSM has willed it so. Otherwise, why did He send us the Prophet, to show us the way?
@T:
Wow. He is so damned that it requires a capital?
I say to you, Damnation is another word for Truth.
(Why yes, I do have a fucked-up mental thesaurus)
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Oh no! You said a naughty word! You will go to hell!! And the “Damned spaghetti thing” is called the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER just in case you can’t read.
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Damn straight it is a mockery. That’s the point. We’re pointing out how dumb people like you are. Especially YOU.
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T,
i find it distubing that so many believers in the abrahamic god presume to know his mind by uttering threats of eternal damnation and the like at those who do not follow their particular path. this god of yours has only faith to sustain his existence; no factual evidence whatsoever. unlike the FSM.
if you are truly his servant, you are quite arrogant in this behaviour. threats of harm or punishment, eternal or otherwise, generally do not go over well with intelligent people, of which pastafarians i know most certainly are.
if only people would read the darn letter sent by bobby to the powers-that-be in kansas. crikey, it’s right up front, the very first link – i honestly don’t know how you can miss it! if all of you haters out there would just do that one simple thing, there would be no hate mail section on this site, let alone one with so many venom-filled comments. (as an aisde, could their origin lie in fear, perhaps, of a challenge you know instinctively to be right? bears further thought, doesn’t it?)
i pity you, my friend, for not allowing your eyes to open enough to accept us. we accept you, even if you are a bit – oh what’s a good word here? oh, i know – vehement in expressing your intolerance.
i thought your religion preached love. guess you didn’t read the memo, h’uh.
RAmen,
V
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A man with one initial has to be awesome.
We should make this “T” a high priest of FSMism.
hes got my vote.
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dear everyone, evolution is wrong because it breaks the first law of science, which state that something cannot be taken out nothing. If the big bang happened,in which a very dense piece of matter appeared in the blankness of unspace and then exploded, were faced with the inevitable conclusion that the matter could not have appeared without cause. And even if it somehow did appear through some impossible way, it would have collapsed under its own mass during the first few seconds of the big bang. May the Lord Jesus rule over Gods people forever Amen!
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Christian (#215) – Evolution theory has nothing to do with Big Bang theory. Please learn to distinguish beetween the two.
It is very correct to say we do not know why the Big Bang happened. However, to ask what caused the Big Bang is a strange question. The word cause, can be defined as the event or condition existing before another event that allowed it to occur. The important word is before. There was no before the Big Bang, the Big Bang created time as well as space. Therefore nothing could have caused it in the sense we know the word.
So we don’t know why the Big Bang occurred – this does not mean we default to a supernatural explaination. After all, if you believe god created the Universe, then who created god?
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Speaking on behalf of many of the C’thulu worshipers I know here in the UK may I just say that your noodly words of wisdom have touched our dark cultist hearts
Let’s face it a giant elder god living in a city of non-Euclidian geometry at the bottom of the sea…..that’s just plain silly
Where do we sign up?
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Dear Christian: Your ignorance of science is appalling.
1. If something can not come from nothing, explain how an omniscent being (God) came from nothing.
2. Evolution and the big bang are 2 separate arguments.
3. Things which collapse under their own weight DO explode. Ever hear of supernovae?
May the FSM rule forever Ramen!
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@Christian #215
Boy, there’s a well articulated line of reasoning. I never knew there was a first law of science. Go back to your church and play nicely there, please don’t bother us with your nonsense any more.
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@Christian: a typical christian form of argument is to misstate some alleged law of science or other and then draw conclusions that would be absurd if the misstatement were correct. If you don’t wanna believe in evolution, fine. The argument is elsewhere: don’t teach theology as if it were science, that’s all.
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On a side note, please quit butchering the English language. On both sides.
May he bless you with his all-loving noodly appendage.
Ramen.
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Responses
Dan-If the big bang didn’t cause evolution then what did?
Fewthepround-God doesn’t have to have a cause because an infinite God is independent of time, and therefor ageless. Also, evolution and the big bang theory are so intertwined that to say they are different in anything but the most literal definition is absurd. No scientist separates the two, because if they don’t it becomes laughable to consider a second possible cause.
ET-I did not mean that it was literally the first law of science, the law of conservation of mass and energy is simply a very important law.
Apprentice Fredric-I attest with the utmost confidence and of pure desire for the truth declare that God is scientific and mundane and as real and undeniable as gravity, the sun and the moon. Only an absolute fool would consider for a moment that God is not scientific, its the very foundation of western civilization. The greatest scientist of all time were christian, Galileo, Issac Newton, etc. And as proof that God is both real and scientific I’ll give you a good example. Because its cold and wet underground, the natural explanation is that it will continue to get colder and muddier and wetter until you hit the core which is the coldest, muddiest and wettest, very similar to being underground. Christ says the center of the world is not cold,muddy and dark, but rather a place of fire and lava. No one can disagree that the romans believed in a cold, underground underworld (Hades), but the fact that Jesus knew the center of the earth was a place of fire and lava (Hell,Earths core) is undeniable evidence of God’s intelligence and understanding of nature. To deny this is to deny all of human knowledge. May the Lord Jesus rule over Gods people forever Amen.
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@Christian,@all: I’m sorry and do apologize. One of the great snares in these discussions is for one to let one’s self be sucked into believing that one can argue with a lunatic. I’ve done that, and should know better, LOFLMAO.
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I always found it funny that a supreme and all powerful being would be so sensitive as to be offended by mortals “mocking” him. Sounds like your “God” is a pussy.
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I don’t know, but I think your God would probably be pretty steamed that you didn’t spell His name right. It’s got a capital “G.” You know, proper nouns, respect and all that. Whoops, looks like you’re going to Hell now, too. Bummer. Meet you there, Hell I’ll even cook you a pasta dinner.
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Oh my FSM, you get it. :D
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Spaghetti made up by my asshole? I remember that was a great night! Hangover lasted a few days though.
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people keep saying that “God” loves everyone yet he sends most people that die to hell for all eternity. that guy is a prick.
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Jesus says to love all people as you would love yourself and that he will always love us and be there for us,(not that he is real) but if we decide to turn back to him now, if we find out that our evidence of The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not true when we get to “heaven” or the next life, then “god” will forgive all if they are truly sorry, also by saying all of those unkind things God will reject you for being so hateful to someone who is not effecting you in any way at all. So best not to judge others lest you be judged, and judging by what you said you are not following jesus’ teachings very well.
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Psst!
Good follower, you forgot to capitalise the ‘G’.
Tsk tsk.
Twenty centuries in hell for that one.
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a mockery of god?
dude christianity is the biggest joke out there.
adam and eve committed unspeakable amounts of incest to populate the earth.
god lives in the clouds and saint peter is his receptionist, and if you’re a good enough person you get to be there.
for eternity.
followers pay money to churches every day. the church pays no taxes, take in billions of dollars, but they always need more money for that golden steeple and a 100% marble statue of the savior nailed to a post.
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“You all are going to hell for that.”
HTF do you know? Dyou get some first hand testmony from a guy that came back from Hell and to;ld you “Dude, I should never hav mocked the other dude upthere”
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Okay, this Christianity thing is getting out of hand. What makes your god any more real than ours? There have been so many made up invisible sky ding dongs that you can’t possibly say yours is real! arrrrrrrghhhh!!!!!
i pray you shall be touched by his noodley appendage
- RA-men
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You’re right, the Flying Spaghetti Monster won’t save us. We’re fine. He will save you! All you have to do is join Pastafarianism!
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T,
The Flying Spaghetti Monster must have a sense of humor, as He keeps on creating idiots like you for us to be amused at.
Thank you for being born, and thank you for being so dumb. I just wish there weren’t so many of you out there being so dumb together.
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Good grief. I just read Christian’s post #222. What a warped view of reality. Christian, I’ve tried several times to have intelligent discourse with you on various threads on this site, and each time you fail utterly to grasp the idea of what constitutes a discussion, what is the definition of science, and you show no ability to construct a logical argument. Not to mention your complete disregard for the usual conventions of spelling, grammar, and syntax in the English language. I am forced to conclude that you are a hopeless idiot.
“Christ says the center of the world is not cold, muddy and dark, but rather a place of fire and lava.” And just where does your book claim that he says that? Do you remember the analysis I showed you in this link ( http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/tbhell.html )? Of course, you are much smarter and better educated than Thomas Thayer – he only had a Doctor of Divinity from Tufts and sat on the Board of Overseers at Harvard. I’m sure you had that beat before you were twelve. Hades, for your future reference, was not seen as cold and damp. It was not seen as being any different than the real world, other than it was populated by the dead. Not just the bad ones in eternal torment like Dante’s scary story, but ALL the dead. Virgil made up the part about torture and damnation. Dante embellished it. The xian church took it and ran with it as a device to scare more simple people into signing up. This tactic appears to have worked remarkably well in your case.
Your god is emphatically not scientific. A scientifically defensible claim is a claim or assertion that can be demonstrated experimentally, the results repeated consistently with each repetition of the experiment. That’s what science fucking IS, you moron. Even if the buy-bull did say something about the center of the earth being hot (which it doesn’t), it still wouldn’t be SCIENCE unless there was a description of the methodology that had been used to establish the claim. A lucky guess is not science. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? I think I know why. It’s because your brain is incapable of understanding anything. You only know how to blindly accept whatever someone tells you it says in that stupid book – without bothering to check for yourself – and reject everything else. You are a fool. You can yell at us and curse us all you want, but that will not change anything, you will still be a fool. I am through trying to have an intelligent discussion with you, it’s pointless. Only a fool argues with a fool. I still reserve the right, however, to point out the inconsistencies in your statements and your inevitable digressions from reality. Have a nice day.
RAmen
ET
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Christian: Evolution wasn’t caused by the Big Bang; Big Bang caused everything to start existing. Evolution needed life before it could begin, and I understand this little chunk of rock existed for a few billion years before that happened. So… Big Bang DID NOT cause evolution. Little cyanobacteriae can be said to have begun the race, as far as I know.
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From the few replies that I have seen in this tread, it is obvious that there is nothing but opinion being thrown around. I also see that there is a total disregard for respect and dignity. If someone were to make a mockery out of islm and the muslim religion as you people have done to Christianity and God in this thread. There would be people in the streets writhing with anger and horrified with your insensitivity. As for the evolution theory, when you study evoluion all you see is circular reasoining. Like for example How do we know how old the earth is? By the different fossils that we have found in different areas that have a certain amount of layers of sediment and rock. Well than how do we know the age lof the dinosaur?? By the position of the fossil in a particular layer of rock. Are you following me?? Does this work?? are we this foolish to accept something that contradicts itself so plainly?? I would think not and yet the world is consumed by it. Why?? There are a few reasons. First If evolution is true than there can’t be a God who is all powerful and will judge us for our sin. Second if there is no God than the Bible no longer exists and hey we no longer have a moral guide to our lives and we can do what ever we want. All we need to do is justify it by passing some stupid law tht lets us do it. Like abortion, everyone knows thisis murder but if we go buy our own simple reasoning and what we can see than life only begins when the baby comes out of the womb. I guess this means that i can kill all my babies. God forbid that we could be such a selfish nation where we would rob our children of the chance to live life, and yet there are many people who feel no remorse for it. i know there are bad circumstances in everyday life that make you feel like it’s ok. But just because you have a bad day doesn’t mean you should kill yourself so you don’t have to see tomorrow. Of course not you continue to live your life and things ussually get better. I’m tired of this world opening there mouths with their PHD’s and their Dotorate’s, and dis regarding the fact that one day they will face death, maybe today,and what will they have accomplished?? A bunch of plaques, certificates, maybe even a 100 years of recognition for their accomplishments. I’m glad that this isn’t me. For I know whom i have believed and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I hae committed unto him against that day. That day is when i will die and God will receive me into his loving arms as my personal saviour and I will live with him forever and ever. Now that is hope.
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To Jake first of all spell check your work as its hard to read. secondly God was created in a time when there was no scientific explanations that could describe life so they made religion to give hope, explain life and in somecases control the people. Why do dinosaur fossils contradict how old the earth is.
May you be touched by his noodly appendage and be enlightened.
RAmen
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“I’m tired of this world opening there mouths with their PHD’s and their Dotorate’s, and dis regarding the fact that one day they will face death, maybe today,and what will they have accomplished?? A bunch of plaques, certificates, maybe even a 100 years of recognition for their accomplishments. I’m glad that this isn’t me.”
Your ignorance to fact and cluelessness will be remembered for a long time to come.
And is it just me, or are you mocking people who actually care if their beliefs are valid (people with PHDs, etc.)? You might wanna think upon the possibility, that there are people who actually want more than a claim from some fantasy book, and are interested in how stuff came to be.
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Jake (#237)
“How do we know how old the earth is? By the different fossils that we have found in different areas that have a certain amount of layers of sediment and rock. “
No we don’t, we age the earth based on radiometric dating. Of course it seems most fundamentalist christians don’t believe in radioactivity.
“are we this foolish to accept something that contradicts itself so plainly??”
You’re foolish for not checking your facts
“First If evolution is true than there can’t be a God who is all powerful and will judge us for our sin.”
Correct, and as evolution is the best explanation for what we observe there can’t be a god.
“Second if there is no God than the Bible no longer exists and hey we no longer have a moral guide to our lives and we can do what ever we want.”
I live by my own moral code, it features mutual respect. Without god, you might go around raping and killing, but don’t assume we all share your weakness.
“Like abortion, everyone knows thisis murder but if we go buy our own simple reasoning and what we can see than life only begins when the baby comes out of the womb.”
I’ve never seen such a complex issue simplified so radically. A foetus at one month is two layers of cells, less complex, less able to feel pain, less able to think than a chicken. If abortion is murder, then by your assertion, so is eating meat. I don’t pretend to know when a feotus becomes human, but it’s an arguement that conducted through reason, not dogma.
“I guess this means that i can kill all my babies.”
There’s a lot of difference between a baby and an early foetus, learn your biology.
“I’m tired of this world opening there mouths with their PHD’s and their Dotorate’s”
Anyone who studies, gets a PHD (which is a doctorate) and applies will probably achieve a lot more than you and your praying. Your own insecurities about your education/IQ are showing quite badly.
“That day is when i will die and God will receive me into his loving arms as my personal saviour and I will live with him forever and ever.”
Good luck with that.
“Now that is hope.”
But in terms of rational thought you’re pretty hopeless
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Jake, that’s so sad… I see why you are angry about the great FSM, science and scientists. It’s because at the beginning, God was everywhere : lightning, natural disasters, death, creation of the world… so that make humans think that they were a part of a divine plan. The world was flat, the Earth was the center of the universe… But the science explained all those facts… so God was kicked out of all those things. We now know that there is no God in the sky, because we have airplanes… he is not in the space… science push God out of everything and now he doesn’t have a lot of place to hide Himself. So that makes u very angry, because you CAN’T admit that your are just a human being, amoung billions and that you are only there to pass your genes, if they are good, to your children and nothing else. You going to die, your brain will stop functionning and your life will end. You are not a part of a divine plan, your are only a very evolved virus called DNA which has for objective to spread itself everywhere without limits. You have about 70 years of usefullness in this world, so have fun, live our life and try to make this race better by your knowledged and skills… that’s it. There is no gods or kings, there is just mankind
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And jake, about the abortion clinics, I think abortion is bad, but it’s a choice and there are bad choices everywhere. If you decide to eat McDonald instead of a good homemade meal, that’s a bad choice, but are we going to close all McDonalds?? And it’s strange, but pro-life people are usually the one who vote republican, are located in the center of the US, agree with the war on terror, agree to let people burn on a electric chair and think it’s OK to bomb an abortion clinic… WOW, that’s a pro-life choice!!
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@ Jake #238,
You are quite beyond ignorant!
Firstly, making fun of Islam, well they are a religion also. And just as ass backwards as Christianity. You choose to believe in God, fine. But just because you believe in something doesn’t make it so. Prove there is a God, don’t give me quotes from books, give me his goddamn phone number.
Circular reasoning in evolution? Like I said earlier, you are beyond ignorant! If you had really read the threads, you would have seen argument after argument about the geological record, how difficult it is to make a fossil, plate tectonics,and the like. You didn’t read them, you ignored them! They don’t follow your world view. You ask: “How do we know how old the world is” and you claim its ” By the different fossils that we have found in different areas that have a certain amount of layers of sediment and rock.” That statement doesn’t even make sense; fossils are aren’t used to determine the age of rocks! Any 5th grader could tell you that, but I guess that if you don’t have an education that’s worth a damn, you’d just make up that kind of nonsense to back your argument, right?
And you have to talk about abortion! Abortion isn’t even in the Bible! You know, I really wish that guys wouldn’t give their two cents about the issue because it doesn’t concern them! Men don’t get pregnant, women do. Why should you even have an opinion about something that really doesn’t affect you? But that’s what you bible-thumpers do, try to impose your will and beliefs on others without thinking about why it truly upsets you. Because you can’t control their behavior. You say that if there is no God, you’d have no moral compass. If you believe that, then you are a weak-minded fool. You think that you are incapable of controlling your impulses on your own? Dare I say, without divine intervention? You pussy! I would like to do alot of things that are illegal in all 50 states and most countries, but I don’t do them because:
A- I like being free. The penal system sucks, I hear.
B- I would like to keep my man-cherry, which can’t be done in the penal system.
C- Its called the PENAL system for a reason!
By your own admission, you think educated people suck! You’re glad you not one of them, you say? Well, fuck you! We’re glad you’re not one of us!
RAmen!
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@Jake #238
It’s obvious that you have not read very carefully. It’s obvious that you have no understanding of evolution. It’s painfully obvious that you cannot recognize a circular argument (hint: read your post). I’ll try to provide some information for you to assist your understanding.
1) This site, and Pastafarianism in general, is not a mockery of xianity. Pastafarianism’s primary goal is to avert the teaching of so-called “intelligent design” in science classes in publicly funded schools. “Intelligent design” is not science, it is religion. It belongs in a philosophy class. Because xians are so insecure in their religion (since it lacks any proof other than the bible), they continually come whining around here about mockery and disrespect, all the while mocking and disrespecting us. We would object just as strenuously to Muslims or Navajos or Inuits or anyone else attempting to foist off their nonscientific creation myths as science. The difference is, they don’t try to do that. So the xians take it as a personal insult that we object to them trying to stuff their nonsense down the throats of our children.
2) Fossils are used to date sedimentary rocks because they are easy to identify in the field. The age of the fossils is determined by analysis of the ratios of radioactive isotopes and daughter products present in the fossils and surrounding rocks. A radioactive material decays at a known rate into certain daughter materials. By looking at the relative amounts and using the known rate at which one turns into the other, an age for the material is readily arrived at. This is not circular reasoning, it is calibration of one scale (the age range of fossils) by using another, more expensive and involved method (radioisotope analysis). Circular reasoning is saying that xianity and (un)intelligent design are true because it says so in the bible, and the bible is true because xianity says so. Notice the mutual interdependence of these statements, Jakey?
3) I don’t know about you and your xian friends, but I don’t need the buy-bull to tell me what’s right and what’s wrong. I don’t need to be terrified of eternal torment to be a nice person. I try to be nice because it’s the right thing to do, not because some imaginary deity is breathing down my neck telling me how to think. I have a brain, and I’m not afraid to use it. Unlike most xians. You might want to check your book before you complain about abortion killing children. The authors didn’t seem to have a problem with it: “Some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” And … he cursed them in the name of the Lord. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys.”
– II Kings 2:23-24. There are numerous other references to killing children, so why is it a problem from the xian standpoint? I notice that you use the term “God forbid” in attempting to make your point. Why not “I would never do that because it’s wrong”? You have no concept of right or wrong without falling back on that silly book? Can’t think for yourself? How very xian of you.
4) Go back to school and learn to spell. Learn some basic English skills like sentence structure and punctuation. You have not advanced your cause by your post above, on the contrary, you have further solidified my conviction that only the poorly educated and underintelligent are readily duped into following the myth of xianity.
RAmen
ET
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Really?
We’re going to hell for this?
Well darn.
But thanks for the warning anyway.
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Jake-
The theory of evolution does not rely on circular reasoning; that’s what your religion does. I’ll try and address some of your misunderstandings of evolution. Yes, part of the theory of evolution is based on fossils and the understanding of the age of the earth. The earth and fossils and layers of the earth can be dated through the known and measurable decay of certain elements. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating. However, geology and paleontology are only two parts of evolution. Over the last 100 years, biology, genetics, biochemistry, and many other sciences have added too the understanding of evolution and through DNA mapping, we have been able to map out and better understand how evolution occurred and how species are interrelated.
Unlike your bible, which is not only internally contradictory, but contradicts with most of know history, evolution stands on its own. Each discovery in biology only strengthens the theory while each finding of history and science only weakens your religion. Also, I’d like to mention that just because evolution is true, that doesn’t mean there is no god. I don’t personally believe in one (aside from the FSM), but I know many people who are able to believe in a god and think that evolution is absolutely true. I think, however, that it does discredit pretty much everything that’s in the bible, and if you’re using it for a moral guide, then you’re pretty pathetic. There are few collections of horrible, immoral and heinous deeds than those that are in the bible: murder, child killing, rape, genocide, and the list goes on. Before you go around attacking evolution, for which you have little to no understanding, perhaps you should take a look at this history of your religion, your holy book, and this history of religion in general, since you seem to have little understanding in that area as well.
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Have you ever read the Bible, Jake? It was God who killed every single living baby upon the face of the earth. It’s called the Great Flood.
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@ Jake 238
am i the only one how feel’s seeck when peapl say “when i will die and God will receive me into his loving arms”?.
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first of all I don’t think this was intended to save anyone from hell or get them to heaven it was more to show just how anyone can create an idea that some people will believe and follow and if the school systems want to teach these different beliefs then they should teach all beliefs. i personally believe in God but i do know people who don’t and they can make very valid points. get a sense of humor, you know some things are done just to show others just how unenlighten they are about the world around them..plus what happen to separation of church and state
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