I can’t believe you have spent so much time

I can’t believe you have spent so much time being sarcastic about how stupid you think faith in God is. People who have faith are not crazy, dillusional, or using religion as a crutch. I’ve heard it all. I don’t understand why people like you make fun of the single concept that believing in God comes down to–love. That’s all it’s really about. Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time. I feel bad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this FSM thing and are surrounded by people who agree with you. Some things don’t have to make sense to you to be true.

I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person. Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier.

If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride? Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?

Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth. And you may not believe me now, but I’m just trying to help you…the day that you die, if you find yourself afraid and alone, just call out to Jesus. Just remember this.

p.s. check out George G, Ritchie’s Return From Tomorrow.

Love,
Carolyn

162 Responses to “I can’t believe you have spent so much time”
  1. 1 - Aesi - Oct 12th, 2008

    Another misguided fool. Read. READ!
    We do not poke fun at any religions that do not deserve it. We may occassionally poke fun at certain followers of religions that deserve to have fun poked at them, but they deserve it too. :P

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  2. 2 - Cardinal Linguine - Oct 12th, 2008

    Sorry Carolyn, but people who believe in religion are sometimes crazy, always delusional, and frequently use it as a crutch. And no it does not come down to love – it comes down to believing in something that is not real and is just plain nonsense. Making a mockery of it is not a waste of time if it means that others will not be sucked in by the delusional nonsense that religion peddles. Oh and also, you do not need religion to be a pure and loving person – it is very easy to do that without religion of any sort.

    ramen

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  3. 3 - PonchoVilla - Oct 12th, 2008

    So why don’t you just call love instead of god? And if some things don’t have to make sense to be true: I’m god. Worship me!

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  4. 4 - PonchoVilla - Oct 12th, 2008

    Besides, if you torture a man long enough, he’ll say anything you want. If you make him desperate enough, he’ll believe anything you want.

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  5. 5 - merinoso - Oct 12th, 2008

    i agree with religion when it comes to loving people and having hope during life
    but that is the only good part of religion, the other part promotes intolerance, discrimination, it gives power to certain people and it wants to replace science like if it were a bad thing

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  6. 6 - The Evolved Ape - Oct 12th, 2008

    You should do a little research into Christianity and then you would discover the truth.

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  7. 7 - DavidH - Oct 12th, 2008

    I may indeed call on Jesus just before I die. If, for example, I fall from a high building and see the ground coming up, I may indeed shout, “Oh, fucking Jesus!” On the other hand, I might cry, “Bollocks!”, meaning much the same thing. Neither will help much.

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  8. 8 - tris - Oct 12th, 2008

    Hello Carolyn
    I can’t believe you have spent so much time implying how stupid you think faith in the Spaghetti Monster is… We’ve heard it all on this site. I don’t understand why so many people can’t understand the single concept that believing in the Spaghetti Monster is FUN. That’s all it’s really about. Criticising something we people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time my dear Carolyn!
    I feel a bit sad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this God obsession thing and are (probably) surrounded by people who believe the same stuff and don’t give you a chance to explore any other ideas. Of course I respect your right to limit yourself mentally and spiritually, just as I respect the right of smokers to kill themselves slowly!
    We on this site pretend to believe in the Spaghetti Monster (and intelligently discuss various ideas connected with science and faith) because it makes our lives fuller, funnier and happier. If we were to see a slideshow of our lives most of us would see ourselves sharing positive and happy emotions with others (also occasionally making fun of the wacky and fanatical aspects of religion)!
    Most of us are trying to find the truth (without a capital T!) but we don’t think a guy called Jesus who maybe never existed and even if he did exist died a horrible death 2000 years ago can give us it (nor can the guys who distorted his ideas in the following centuries in order to gain money, power and oppressive control). I think that the day that I die I’ll call out to a doctor (if I can still speak!) and if I find myself afraid and alone I call up a sympathetic friend for a chat (not a poor guy who was brutally killed 2000 years ago for trying to be nice to people). Just remember this!
    I am glad you were so polite in your email and didn’t use the usual Christian insulting tone, I’m sure you are a nice person and I respect your views, but please respect ours too (let’s live and let live, baby!)
    Love from Tris

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  9. 9 - tris - Oct 12th, 2008

    P.S.
    I’ve never heard George G, Ritchie’s “Return From Tomorrow” I’ve heard of Lionel Ritchie but not “George G Ritchie”. Are they related? What’s the song about?

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  10. 10 - tris - Oct 12th, 2008

    P.P.S.
    It’s so nice to be able to talk to a non-insulting Christian on this site without feeling “defensive” or angry or under-attack… thank you Carolyn… you’ve giving me a nice warm feeling!

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  11. 11 - tris - Oct 12th, 2008

    I mean “you’ve given”… I got my continuous and perfect tenses mixed up! I suppose I could say “you’ve been giving”… but let’s not exaggerate!

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  12. 12 - Drunken Dogg - Oct 12th, 2008

    1.Bull shit, you christains do not strive to be loving people. This message proves it.

    2.FINALLY SOME HATE MAIL. Keep it coming, keep it coming ^^.

    -Drunken Dogg, bored out of her mind with no hate mail >.

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  13. 13 - Nahmala - Oct 12th, 2008

    First of all, I’d like to thank you for your correct spelling.

    Second of all, this particular message stuck out from the rest because it just wasn’t a whole bunch of cursing (”F-you, asshole! This goddamn religion is a pile of shit!” and stuff like that). It really came from the heart. I’m not converting to your religion or anything like that, but I will take up your message about being pure and loving (I don’t have to believe in talking snakes or Jewish zombies to do that).

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  14. 14 - tris - Oct 12th, 2008

    P.P.P.S
    To Carolyn
    I wish all the “christians” who write in to this site were like you, trying “to be a pure and loving person”… but if they were like you, this site probably wouldn’t even need to exist! Unfortunately if you read their “hate mails” you will clearly see that they are not trying to be pure and loving. Instead they are mostly trying to be oppressive and hateful. They want to destroy other people’s right to free thought and to kill any alternative to their religious manias and to substitute science and logic with superstition and pathological deliriums (that is why Mr Henderson decided to set up the site in the first place!)

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  15. 15 - Keyser Soze - Oct 12th, 2008

    And I advise you to listen Aqualung by Jethro Tull. Just check the lyrics of My God and Hymn 43. And the rest of the album is a music masterpice as well.
    Religion is not about love, sweetheart. Sorry to put it so crudely. In fact, it’s a handy reason to kill. Don’t you read the news? At least watch some TV?
    YOU can call to Jesus when you’re about to die. Friendly advise: grab a comfortable chair. He’s not coming. Sorry for bringing the bad news.
    Yessssss, life is a spark of light between two eternal darknesses. Hope this perspective does not depress you.
    Love and a lot of kisses ‘there’.

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  16. 16 - Darwin’sMonkey - Oct 12th, 2008

    The funniest thing about this post is that you can actually hear your grandmothers voice saying all of it. Hey there Carolyn, you are actually the finest example of everything I personally hate about xtianity. You obviously believe anything that is spoon fed to you and I’m guessing that you are probably well into your 50’s or 60’s, am I right?, so there is no hope for you. If you believe the tales of the bible and that George G. Ritchie saw the other side then I would love for you to lend me a large sum of money that I promise I will pay back in the very near future. Ahhhh the life of a sucker.

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  17. 17 - Dan - Oct 12th, 2008

    Hi Carolyn,

    “People who have faith are not crazy, dillusional, or using religion as a crutch.”
    It’s not a requirement but try taking a look at some of the hate mail here.
    Not delusional? In my opinion you are, as you put blind faith over evidence
    Not using religion as a crutch? I’ve seen too many missionaries trying to convert people when they’re at their lowest to believe that.

    “I don’t understand why people like you make fun of the single concept that believing in God comes down to–love. That’s all it’s really about.”
    I have the love of real people in my life, I don’t need supernatural love.

    “Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time.”
    Not when it comes to fighting the teaching of religion as science it isn’t.

    “Some things don’t have to make sense to you to be true.”
    But it helps and there should be some observable evidence to base things on.

    “I feel bad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this FSM thing and are surrounded by people who agree with you.”
    Feel bad, we’re quite happy with it. I feel bad you’re surrounded by Christians who agree with you.

    “I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person. Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier.”
    I’m a humanist, I believe in being a good and loving person. It’s similar except I don’t rely on a preachers to tell me what good and loving mean, I came up with my own standards. I don’t always get there either.

    “If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride?”
    Yes

    “Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”
    The two aren’t linked. I do the former with no reference to the later.

    “Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth”
    Some day I’ll die and cease to be, knowing I lived a good life, a fun life and above all my life. Be careful, you may reach your death bed realising you wasted so much time believing in the lies of preachers.

    Return from Tomorrow – I checked it out on Amazon, there are copies available from available from $0.01. I’m not into near death, I saw the afterlife literature.

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  18. 18 - Ernesto - Oct 12th, 2008

    It’s sad that you just don’t get what this movement is all about. It’s not about “being sarcastic about how stupid we think faith in God is”. As you can see, we believe the FSM is the creator of all things. What really annoys us is that some people are trying to teach religion in science classrooms (read the letter to the Kansas school board). That’s just wrong.
    If you are going to include the absolutely religiously-funded “Intelligent design” in science classrooms alongside the scientifically proven theory of evolution, all we ask is that at least you include other religious points of view (dedicating them the same amount of time), such as Flying spaghetti monsterism.

    Sorry for my English, I’m a Pastafarian from Uruguay.

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  19. 19 - GummiHU - Oct 12th, 2008

    Read the old testament

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  20. 20 - zinc alloy - Oct 12th, 2008

    You say the Bible comes down to being a pure and loving person.

    That’s nice.

    Which part of the many killings and stonings and floods and smitings and general fire and brimstone in the Bible will make me a pure and loving person then?

    Your god is a jealous, spiteful, vengeful god. He has love for no-one but himself.

    Bollocks to your false god and your false Bible.

    He can stick his heaven up his arse.

    The FSM is all forgiving and all loving. After all, millions of us surely can’t be wrong.;-)

    May His Noodly Goodness touch you while He simultaniously gives your god a poke in the eye.

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  21. 21 - KatieBug - Oct 12th, 2008

    If I were to see a slideshow of my entire life, I would definitely feel pride. You don’t need religion to be a good person. Though mocking organized religion brings me joy, it is not my entire life. I find joy in actually being a good person. You may be a good person because you believe in the Bible’s teachings, but many religious people are only good because they fear God’s wrath, and I don’t believe that that’s the mark of a good person.

    But hey, thanks for giving us some literate hate mail. It’s very rare :]

    FSM be with you.
    RAmen.

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  22. 22 - The Mighty Meatball - Oct 12th, 2008

    I am glad you have better grammar than most people who write these things.
    Just because I am not Christian doesn’t mean I’m not a good person. Does that mean just because someone is or Arabian descent mean they are a terroist? I am an Eagle Scout for one and have given a lot to my community.

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  23. 23 - Bobert - Oct 12th, 2008

    I feel bad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this Jesus thing and are surrounded by people who agree with you.

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  24. 24 - Ishmael - Oct 12th, 2008

    Why don’t the “religous” have the confidence to be a “pure and loving person” without having to believe in a god?

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  25. 25 - Lisa - Oct 12th, 2008

    “to be a pure and loving person”
    You haven’t accedentaly read the bible, I assume from reading this. Do so, and you will surely see that His Noodlyness does make more sence.
    RAmen.

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  26. 26 - StJason - Oct 12th, 2008

    I see, an’ no oiter book be tellin all t’be a pure an’ lovin’ person? Poisonally, methinks that th’ Gospel tell it a lot clearer an better then ye Jewish-space-zombie guilt trip book.

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  27. 27 - Casual - Oct 12th, 2008

    Checked out that book, you can buy it on Amazon for a cool 1 cent. In this economy I’m not sure I can afford it. Anyway it looks like a very religious Christian wrote it and lo and behold his story matches up with his current religious beliefs…no suprise there. Plus Near Death Experiences are highly unreliable and not testable. His story may be inspiring but won’t change any minds around this place for sure

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  28. 28 - Fogey - Oct 12th, 2008

    The point of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster isn’t to mock people like you. I’m sure a nice person like you wouldn’t, for example, try to get your religious beliefs taught as science, and I’m sure you wouldn’t support legislation based on one religious view either. No doubt you accept the rights of gay people to get married if they want to. We reserve our scorn for those people who think that their religious beliefs give them the right to dictate the way we all live our lives.

    As to whether people who are religious are delusional, of course most of you must be. Since no religion can claim a majority of the human race as believers, and only one of them can be right, most of you must be deluding yourselves. It’s a bit of a gamble, isn’t it?

    It is, of course, perfectly possible to live a good and useful life without believing in god.

    p.s Check out Richard Dawkin’s “The God Delusion”.

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  29. 29 - benji - Oct 12th, 2008

    Ok that is concerned criticism, polite and honest, so don’t expect mockery of any kind from me.
    .
    First of all, I want you to know that most of us here have nothing against every message of love and peace that any person or book wants to transmit. We certainly are not mocking anything sensible and sensitive that Jesus said, for we are sensible and sensitive persons too. However, we do not believe that any kind of scripture is necessary for the application of these good values, that we believe are only human.
    .
    What we denounce is in fact the political and public dimension of religion nowadays, which insiduously tries to enforce middle age and antic scriptures values in our society. We want a secular society, which mean that religion is a private choice to everybody in the context of non-religious laws. That allows you to believe in the Bible and others to believe in the Coran or even Greek mythology, and everybody’s happy. Note that this allows us as well to make fun of religions, but it shouldn’t offend you because it is coherent with the respect of everybody’s (your) right to express their position on religion.
    .
    That was about the purpose of the FSM. Now you just said that something doesn’t not to make sense to me to be true. Well I would be interested in your definition of truth then. Your statement means that every religion contradicting yours is true as well because it makes sense to some people. But they cannot be all true at the same time, that is pure non-sense. I’m not talking about a great feeling about the meaning of life : I’m talking about scriptures : can they be all true? Why would someone write that? How can you compare this to the sectarian groups forming today? Are they so different? Think about it and may his noodly appendage be with you.

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  30. 30 - Richard - Oct 12th, 2008

    … *laughs like hell*

    Sorry we dispute religious bullshit and promote scientific fact… why do all these idiots, however, assume us so weak-willed that we’d just give up our beliefs one day? Seriously, it’s like they all assume us to be people who jump on any popular bandwagon just for the sake of us, so we’ll find the “Truth”. BTW, “truth” shouldn’t be capitalized there.

    Also, if we WERE LIKE THAT, we’d be Christian.

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  31. 31 - Reggie Dixon - Oct 12th, 2008

    Carolyn love, sadly you are just echoing a circular argument along the lines of you want your god to exist, lots of love is involved, therefore this god exists. You talk about truth but put forward no credible evidence to demonstrate this. What if you are wrong ? Wouldn’t you feel a bit duped ?

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  32. 32 - Ex-Captain Etay - Oct 12th, 2008

    Ah, thank you, Carolyn. You passed the test. Congratulations! You’re going to Heaven, unlike Mr. This Is A Complete Mockery Of God or Dr. OMG! You People Have Gone Mad!.
    The main reason why we do this is because so many Christians are complete assholes with no tolerance for other faiths.
    All we are are people who are intolerant of the intolerant.

    -XCE

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  33. 33 - son of the ugly one - Oct 12th, 2008

    I hate to tell you this but trying to have creationism in school as science is not an act of love either. That was the perciptating event of this as a movement. We don’t want your religion taught as science. What your religion is is up to you, but we should not have it jammed down our throats as science. I really hope that you’ve read the bible before you started thumping it(I did)and there are many things in there that don’t reflect Love (on the order of Genocide, incest,stoning of children for starts)

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  34. 34 - Bartolomeus - Oct 12th, 2008

    Dear Carolyn,

    As I am reading this while having some fun scrolling the website, I could -alomst- agree with you. In the end love is or should be a central theme in one’s life. But I don’t think someone building this website is only sarcastic, I think a lot of things come from the feeling that some religious movements make it hard for other people to love or be loved. Another aspect I still can’t grasp, is why you believe all the Bible offers you just because of the underlying message. Why not live with the underlying message and leave the necessary Jesus out of it? I mean to say, would he have existed I would have definitely liked his stance towards the world, but that doesn’t mean yu’ll have to leave the rest of history aside to get inspiration for a good life from.

    greetings,
    Bart

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  35. 35 - Shamar - Oct 12th, 2008

    I would be very happy and proud of my life.
    And I will continue to make a mockery of God.
    You never know…maybe something I say will one day cause one person to abandon their God and live a life with much more freedom than they ever imagined before. That would make every silly argument that I had with theists worth it :-)

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  36. 36 - Cape Buffalo - Oct 12th, 2008

    I don’t see why you need god to feel like a pure and loving person.

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  37. 37 - anonymous - Oct 12th, 2008

    Not nearly as much hatred as usual, but still a misguided individual. If only they understood that people who leave messages like this were the ‘good’ version of believers. The bad ones would put Hitler to shame if their book told them to.

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  38. 38 - didi - Oct 12th, 2008

    “Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time.”

    We are passionate about FSM.
    —————————-
    “Some things don’t have to make sense to you to be true.”

    Correct, sometimes ‘love’ doesn’t make sense, but it’s true. It’s just something you feel…
    A lot of people ‘feel’ god, but I’m sorry, I do not ‘feel’ him. But I do feel the lords warm appendages around me.
    —————————-

    “I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person. Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier.”

    Well, I’m not a xtian or whatever but I also strive to be a good person. Why do you think you have to be a xtian to be ‘good’? That’s so bullshit…
    —————————
    “If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride? Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”

    Yes, off course. Why wouldn’t I??? Do you really think that all non-believers are ‘bad people’? If you do, you have to come out of your house a bit more, misses.
    ————————–
    “Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth.”

    The same for you Carolyn…and you will go ‘ow ****, I wasted my whole life reading that bed-time-story-to-scare-little-children’
    ————————–

    Well, I’m maybe little, but I’m not scared and I’m not a child. I’m happy to be a free-thinker. You xtians are always talking about ‘dying’ and what comes next. Well, I’m rather bussy with my life now, to feel good about it now, and to have no regrets about my life later, bc I don’t like the thought, ‘what if…’. And I say again, also to be a good person bc I find that also very important. Life is the only certainty you have, not ‘death’ or the very little possibility ‘what maybe might become afterwards’.

    And IF there would be something afterwards, god/jesus and I would have a long talk, bc he really needs another job, he failed.

    Btw, I don’t like tyrants, they don’t match with my political views.

    (tyrant: a single ruler holding absolute power)

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  39. 39 - sigh - Oct 12th, 2008

    I have nothing against the teachings of the Bible. I simply believe that those who interpret it literally are foolish, and that one shouldn’t need the reward of heaven, nor the punishment of hell to be a good person.

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  40. 40 - ButlerianJihad - Oct 12th, 2008

    Here’s the thing that all of you relig-o’s seem to miss: We don’t need a book to tell us how to be good people.

    It’s called common sense.

    And, though you and others may feel differently, from my point of view, you *are* crazy, delusional, and using religion as a crutch.

    If you were not mentally crippled by fear of death, or fear of some sort of divine retribution, you might be able to use your reasoning skills.

    Why would any god give us the ability to reason and question, if he did not want us to use our reason to question him?

    Someday maybe you will, and then you’ll know the TRUTH!
    You may not believe *us* now, but we’re just trying to help YOU!

    Embrace his noodly goodness!

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  41. 41 - Amused - Oct 12th, 2008

    “People who have faith are not crazy, delusional, or using religion as a crutch. I’ve heard it all.”

    Evidently you heard it but have no idea what we mean by it. Just because xianity is all about Love doesn’t mean there’s a God, it just means xianity is about Love. So’s the Kama Sutra.

    “Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time”

    What else can we do? You can’t be reasoned with. We can’t argue or debate with you. We CAN, however, make fun of you and laugh at your naive attempts to “argue” your belief.

    “If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride?”

    Yes, having seen religion for what it is, I would feel an intense amount of pride.

    “Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”

    Bold. You think making comments here encompasses the ENTIRETY of our lives?

    “Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth. ”

    I wish I could just say, “Right back at’cha”… but you’ll likely believe in this delusional crutch for the weak minded ’til you die. Then, just when you think Jesus will come to you, you’ll see beer volcanoes and stripper factories and be like, “crap.”

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  42. 42 - XIII - Oct 12th, 2008

    Personally , and from what I’ve seen here , a lot of people share my opinion Carolyn , I don’t think having faith in something is bad in its actual concept , its the rest .

    I’ve asked a lot of questions , what do you want before being an atheist you start by asking yourself about the religions and the pre-made ideas , and all that stuff , so I’ve asked questions on extrem environements , the following answer is true , I’m not creating this :

    Q. If you were to be poor , and had nothing to eat for 2 days , and you saw something to eat , within your grasp , would you take it even so this food doesn’t belongs to you ?

    A. No , I would let myself die of hunger because it would be the decision of my Lord to take me back to His side .

    Q.O Ok and if you had a baby or a young child with you , would you take the food for them ?

    A . No , because I would respect the death of my child as the decision of my Lord and I would know that they would be at a better place .

    This irationality ( and I did not invented it , I swear on my honor it was what she said ) is what I think we have to fight . We have to make people understand that without proofs of this beared dude in the sky , we can’t be this blinded . Holy Wars , fights , deaths , political fights , etc , etc , etc … and for what …. the idea of one invisible beared dude in the sky or the idea of a invisible dude with 5 arms , or the idea of reincarnation … there’s no proofs of their existances but people have killed in their names . What’s the difference between an invisible and flying beared guy or and invisible flying spaghety monster ? The underlying message is it same for every relligion : be pure , love the people around you and killing is bad . So what makes a religion better than an other , how do you choose a religion if they are all the same ? Finally , all the relligions are fighting each others for the name of the gods they have …. nothing else since the messages are the same ……

    for conclusion I’ll write a little story I heard not too long ago and that’s a great humoristic picture on faith blinded people .

    -There was a major flood and a building was evacuated , but one old man decided to stay in the building , saying :

    - ‘ God will save me ! ‘

    - The water started to sink the building , the first of 3 floors was already completely flooded . A boat went to the building and reached for the old man .

    - ‘ God will save me , said the old man . ‘

    - The water never stoped and finally took the second floor . A second boat went to the building and reached for the old man .

    - ‘ God will save me , and the old man returned in the building .’

    - When the building was completely flood , a chopper went on the top of it to save the old man who was standing there , simply waiting .

    - ‘ I have faith , God will save me ! ‘

    - And the old man died . When he finally got the Heaven he went directly to God and asked Him .

    - ‘ Why haven’t you save me ? I had faith in You , but You never came ! ‘

    - And God answered .

    - ‘ I’ve send you two boats and a chopper , but you refused them . ‘

    Don’t be like the old man , save yourself don’t wait for a sign !

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  43. 43 - Halibut Pirate - Oct 12th, 2008

    Hello, Carolyn. I’m glad that you find self-betterment a worthwhile and satisfying process. I think most people do, or at least should. However, some of us think that self-betterment is due to a conscious effort on the part of the individual, and not due to an extracorporeal force working inside us. I’d agree with you that most religious people are perfectly sane, rational, and intelligent. What strikes me as odd, though, is why such people should believe that an undetectable spiritual force is what drives them towards self-betterment. Would you agree with the statement that it’s better to take your moral direction from your own heart, rather than what someone else says? Whether you agree or disagree, you might find it interesting to know that Yahweh of the Bible frowns on anyone following their own moral compass instead of Mosaic law, and promises to horribly curse those who do (Deuteronomy 29:19-20). Regardless of what the Bible may have to say, I think self-improvement has to start within, not without.

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  44. 44 - Plague Chicken - Oct 12th, 2008

    I share lots of fun emotions, not all are about ridiculing unsupported belief systems, but whatever brings you joy…so be it. You are free to believe in whatever entities you wish. Stay on your side of the theological divide and all is well. When you try to make me live my life in accordance with your beliefs…then we will have an issue, not before. Now as far as your Bible goes, it also commands that you burn animals, keep slaves, yadda yadda yadda. Now, how do you decide which parts of the infallible word of God to ignore?

    Just curious as to the mental controtions involved.

    cheers

    PC

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  45. 45 - Plague Chicken - Oct 12th, 2008

    …contortions…

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  46. 46 - Tenku - Oct 12th, 2008

    Oh! The TRUTH! OMG!!! Please tell me what this truth is! Because I can seriously believe things that do not make any logical sense as long as I have been indoctrinated into it,or “crazy, dillusional(sic), or using religion as a crutch”!

    I want to believe in a book that was made 2000 years ago, that was been edited heavily since, and has been spread primarily by force!

    Seriously though, if Christianity was the true religion, the world would not make any sense at all.

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  47. 47 - Fliegenden Nudeln - Oct 12th, 2008

    Carolyn,

    There have been times in my life when I’ve been afraid and alone, for example: when artillery and mortar rounds were falling all around me. Calling out to Jesus didn’t even produce an echo. The best secular survival technique was to find a hole and crawl in it.

    You obviously find comfort in your religion. That’s good. Please just don’t try to convert us to your beliefs. But since you did, here are some counter thoughts.

    You indicated that the basic message of the Bible is love. Pastafarians have read the Bible; parts of it describe great cruelty imposed on mankind by the Christian God. You have recited Sunday school teachings wherein those parts of the Bible are skipped over or explained as “God moving in mysterious ways His wonders to perform.”

    Read the Old Testament carefully; you will be surprised at what you find. And because you take the Bible literally, you will have to accept those bloody stories as true. Then you will have to consider if those were the acts of a loving God.

    -FN-

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  48. 48 - brian - Oct 12th, 2008

    Wait. You start off so on track. That is how we feel about his noodliness. And you dare mock our god. Well lucky for you he doesn’t burn you for eternity for not believing in him – that would be retarded.

    Some day you will come to know the Truth. Heaven has a stripper factory and a beer volcano. And pirates directly influence global temperatures.

    Oh, and you love us, gee thanks.

    Sauce be with you.

    Brian

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  49. 49 - mentos - Oct 12th, 2008

    Some things don’t have to make sense to me to be true? Name one thing that doesn’t make sense but is true nonetheless. And remember, once something’s scientifically proven that theory makes “sense”

    By the way, we’re not mocking love (except for the crazy kind of love). There ARE crazy, dillusional and crutchreligionwearing people. They’re the ones we mock. And I’ve SEEN it all (who cares about hearing).

    Besides, I never was proud of my life, and if I knew back then what I knew now I would’ve done a better job, even though I’m doing top class right now and I have enough friends. I’m not proud of my life, but I’m proud to reject religion.

    “If you were to see a slide show of your entire life, would you truly feel pride? Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”
    Religion isn’t with a capital.
    Anyways, of course everyone would. Everyone has one proud moment in his or her life. And everyone has had “happy emotion with others” (great grammar there). The fact that you have to ask this stupid question makes me laugh. What I think you’re trying to say is “are you proud and happy to piss on religion”? No, I’m not. I’m just here to see religious cooks contradict themselves.

    Here’s a hint: stop capitalizing every single word you find “inspiring”. The truth is important, yes, though religion always seems to twist that thing. It does not deserve a capital however.

    The day you die won’t have to be afraid and alone. Have you ever met someone who said his death was frightening and lonesome? NO of course not because all those people are dead already!

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  50. 50 - Sarah - Oct 12th, 2008

    Carolyn,

    Do you believe in dragons and fairies? Why not? Is that because it makes no sense to you that these creatures could exists and yet never have had their existence verified? Despite how much I love dragons and fairies, I would not blame you in the slightest if you said you did not believe in them; I would not even blame you if publicly mocked someone who wanted the existence of dragons and fairies to be taught in science class. I’m sorry if you are offended by the fact that I cannot accept as truth something that does not make sense to me, but I really can’t help it. Why would you God wire my brain that way and then punish me for something I can’t help? That really does not could “loving and pure” to me. RAmen.

    -Sarah

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  51. 51 - Katie - Oct 12th, 2008

    “..how stupid you think faith in God is. People who have faith are not crazy, dillusional, or using religion as a crutch. I’ve heard it all. I don’t understand why people like you make fun of the single concept that believing in God comes down to–love. That’s all it’s really about. Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time”

    No offence but I think you COMPLETELY missed the point of this whole website. No one is saying that God doesn’t exist so much as the idea of teaching creationism in schools is absurd as there is NO CONCRETE EVIDENCE that creationism happened whereas there is concrete evidence of evolution. Teaching that a flying spaghetti monster created the universe is no crazier than teaching the concept of creationism.

    And I do believe in God… God loves everyone and doesn’t care whether you worship him/her from a church or from home, whether you read the bible or not, whether you are a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Christian, ETC ETC ETC…. What matters is… as YOU said… LOVE.

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  52. 52 - Katie - Oct 12th, 2008

    my personal belief – and no clue why this hasn’t been adopted by christians/whoever (probably because the exact problem with organized religion is that it focuses on outdated texts instead of the core values of the faith) – is that God CREATED or BEGAN the process of evolution. What’s wrong with that…. anyway…..

    Definitely want both the FSM decal and a Darwin fish for my car, asap

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  53. 53 - Dave - Oct 12th, 2008

    Hi hi, ho ho,

    Dear Carolyn,
    It appears you have us pastafarians mixed up with some sort of religion bashing cult. I assure you, we believe in believing in yourself, and following the path that has been set before you. To us, we feel that following the Church of the FSM will lead us to the truth.

    We as a Church have faith in Ramen, and I do not call my brothers and sister crazy and dillusional. I love all my brothers and sisters, and we stand up for more than our fellow pastafarians. Did you hear about the peaceful marches against Westboro Baptist Church?

    Yours truly,
    Dave.

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  54. 54 - FrodoSaves - Oct 12th, 2008

    There’s a post-it note on my fridge telling me “to be a pure and loving person”. I feel that this allows me to be as morally sound as a Christian without the inconvenience of having to believe in Jesus.

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  55. 55 - Blackbird - Oct 12th, 2008

    Let’s just ignore the fact that more lives have been taken in the name of religion than any other (perhaps every other) reason.
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    Do we need religion to be pure and loving people?
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    I hope we have more self respect than that! Homo sapiens have been around for about 250,000 years. We went at least 245,000 of those years without the any of the modern “true” religions. If we actually needed a “god” or “djinns” or any sort of sky daddy to tell us that murder and theft aren’t kosher after all, we wouldn’t have made it to Sinai or anywhere else for that matter.
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    We do not need this foolishness to be good people. It is wishful thinking that unfortunately brings about the baggage that has been the cause of an embarrassingly large amount of human suffering. We have, as humans, earned enough knowledge and self awareness to rid ourselves of these superstitions. Get rid of this masochistic “but we need God to keep from killing each other” garbage. You’re better than that! We’re better than that! If you truly need belief in an invisible, unknowable celestial dictator to keep from being a bad person, I pity you.

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  56. 56 - Fart Bloosom - Oct 12th, 2008

    Hey Carolyn, Read the old testament lately? yhwh was such a hoot with all that slaughtering and damnation stuff…

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  57. 57 - Eric Millichamp - Oct 12th, 2008

    “be a pure and loving person”? Is this the same religion that encourages slavery and stoning people to death?

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  58. 58 - PYRETTE - Oct 12th, 2008

    I can’t believe you have spent so much time writing a letter about how stupid you think faith in The FLying Spaghetti Monster is. I don’t understand why people like you can’t understand the single concept that believing in the FSM comes down to – Fun. That’s all it’s really about. Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is a whole lot of fun. I feel bad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this Christianity thing and are surrounded by people who agree with you. Things have to make logical sense to be true.

    I believe in what the open letter offers me because it has a single underlying message: to dress as a pirate and drink beer. Although I’m not always doing this, I strive to do so at every opportunity… and this makes my life happier.

    Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth. And you may not believe me now, but I’m just trying to help you…the day that you die, if you find yourself surrounded by ugly strippers and stale beer, just call out to the FSM.

    Sauce be with you,
    PYRETTE

    P.S. the ‘Post signature’ comes after the signature.

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  59. 59 - Cheeetar - Oct 12th, 2008

    Oh, sorry, I’ll just get back to enslaving people and raping women, which is obviously the more pure and loving approach, seeing as the bible condones it.

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  60. 60 - Pho eater - Oct 12th, 2008

    Awww, ain’t that so sweet? “Love, Carolyn [XOXOXOXO]” Jesus loves you Bobby. LOL. She truly sounds like a genuine caring person. However, Carolyn my dear, not everyone needs a savior. Certainly not myself or anyone else around here. I personally take pride in the strength of SELF. To follow in the footsteps of someone else or to adhere to some tenets of some laid out way of life is truly not a way I want to live. You become robotic and directed much like a parent directs a child. “The blind leading the blind?” I care not to put my trust in age-old traditions. Life is all about change baby doll and “GOD” had his time. This is the dawn of a new era of enlightenment and it’s the era of the scientific method. Why concern yourself with something that does not manifest itself or can not be tested?

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  61. 61 - Theo - Oct 13th, 2008

    I’m very pure and loving. I don’t need religion for that.

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  62. 62 - Advocatus diaboli - Oct 13th, 2008

    Hi Carolyn

    It is nice to hear from a Christian who can write, spell, and punctuate correctly, and seems to represent the better side of your religion. Look at the “hate mail” to see what sort of person you are keeping company with. You seem to be saying religion is not a crutch, it is a wood or metal pole designed to remove loads from an injured or inadequate leg. Would you still “strive to be a pure and loving person” if you did not believe it would get you a good seat in the choir in the next life? In your case, I think you would.

    Parts of your Bible contain messages and sentiments that are far removed from universal love. Just as the Catholic church fought to stop the Bible being translated from Latin in the Middle Ages, and exposing its true contents to general scrutiny, some Christians seem determined to prevent their children hearing about the science of the earth’s, or to dilute it with their own creation story (which is one of thousands from around the world, including our own). This site is not making fun of religion. Our religion is every bit as valid as yours. The fact that you think yours is superior is an indication of the problem with your position, not ours.

    I do hope that, unlike most of the “drive-by” critics who post here, you return to this discussion.

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  63. 63 - PIratmonkey - Oct 13th, 2008

    Mabye you should stop coming here to tell us that our beliefs (which is just as valid as yours) and stop preaching your religion to other people who do not want to hear it? If your Bible’s message is one of love and tolearance (according to you), can’t you keep your damned opinion to yourself and shut up?

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  64. 64 - sarah - Oct 13th, 2008

    i just found this site… i love it.

    the key to FSM is not to make fun of ppl who read into the bible and get love out of it, it is to show how ridiculous it is to take it literally and to point out the extreme lengths that some groups will go to force their beliefs on others.

    keep up the good work folks!

    argh!

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  65. 65 - Arg Sayer - Oct 13th, 2008

    Thank you for your testimonial. You’re the living embodiment of Christian love. (Based on your first sentence, I’m free to use any amount of sarcasm.)

    Arg.

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  66. 66 - Mitch - Oct 13th, 2008

    Dear Carolyn,

    Your god is jealous, petty and cruel.

    P.S. Check out the movie Religulous.

    Sincerely,
    The Intelligent Ones

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  67. 67 - Stephanie - Oct 13th, 2008

    You’re trying to help us? LOL
    .
    Uh, no thanks. I like reality and sanity much better than your crazy alternative.

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  68. 68 - yaerav - Oct 13th, 2008

    “Some things don’t have to make sense to you to be true”.

    Heheh, ain’t that so, hm, Carolyn, ain’t that so ;-)

    “I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person. Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier.”

    I believe you believe that. Do be sure to keep to the gospel of Luke though, and do not make the mistake of ever reading Numbers, Deuteronomy, Leviticus or Revelations.
    But all that aside, personally I have read several “Holy Books”. All of them, eventually, have this same underlying message: to be a pure and loving person.

    And frankly, sarcasm or not, the Gospel of the Flying Spaghettimonster has twó underlying messages:

    1: “Religion is pretty stupid.”
    2: “Just be a good and compassionate person, nothing else matters”

    Regards and Love (and if you want, an encouraging pat on the back by His Noodly Appendage ;-) )

    Yaerav

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  69. 69 - jeremykeys - Oct 13th, 2008

    First things first. I have to thank you for at least not screaming and swearing at us. It’s a refreshing change. Now, onto the next point. You’ve obviously missed the entire reason for our existence. It is to stop this senseless teaching of creation “theory” in science class. The Christian creation “theory”. This should be taught in religion class not science. It’s NOT science. Another thing, all religious beliefs should be given equal time. Every last one of them. It should not be weighted in so heavily a Christian theme.
    You said that someday we will come to a point and know the truth. We do know the truth. Religion is a scam put forth purely to control and suck money out of naive and stupid people. You probably haven’t noticed this but out of all the hundreds of religions in the world only your people get offended. Why is that? A little self important perhaps?
    If I were to see a slide-show of my life, damn right I would feel proud. I’ve done a lot good things.
    I don’t; and I can’t speak for everyone here; think that faith in God is stupid. I think it’s a complete and utter waste of time but whatever floats your boat. What I think is that if you are going to be Christian than do it all of the way. You’ve got homeless people in your town? Then put them in your churches. Tear out the pews and build rooms for them to live in. Give them clothes right out of your closet. You only need so much and you probably have way more than you need. Give it to those in need. There is nothing that offends me more than a sanctimonious wealthy Christian who keeps his money for himself using the utterly shameless excuse, “Jesus wants me to be happy.” What a load of bullshit! Jesus (if you believe in him) doesn’t care one whit if you’re happy. It’s all about how you treat your fellow man. That’s ultimately what pisses me right off about you Christians. You’re selfish. Your religion has warped itself to the point where how you live your live is second to, “Do you have Jesus in your heart?” That’s just sick. I’ve been to a couple of your Evangelical churches and nearly vomited. Apparently you can be a pedophilic rapist and as long as; usually on your deathbed; you take Jesus into your heart you get into heaven. Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this picture? What bout the victims? I can’t see your God liking Cathedrals either. A truckload of money wasted on the so-called glory to him. Guess Christians have never seen mountains. For every suffering hungry person out there is a wealthy Christian hypocrate. Do the right thing. Help those that need it. Every last one. That’s the only way you’ll ever get into Heaven. You’re God isn’t even the slightest bit interested in praise or songs or any other shit that you think he is. Remember the First Testament. He’s be just as happy to set you all on fire and laugh.

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  70. 70 - Czar Bal - Oct 13th, 2008

    Why do you not believe in his noodly goodness? His teaching have taught me much in the short time I have been graced to listen.

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  71. 71 - Nahmala - Oct 13th, 2008

    *I forgot to add, though, your spelling of ‘delusional’ was quite funny.

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  72. 72 - Perna de Pau - Oct 13th, 2008

    Carolyn,
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    You seem an intelligent person. Therefore you certainly are not serious when you mention the “single concept that believing in God comes down to–love”. If you look into the history of religions (every single religion) you will see that such concept is unsupported. For you the bible has a “single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person”. It would be very good if all those who claim to believe in the bible reached the same conclusion, but you know well that this is not the case. Moreover the bible sends very many contradictory messages and to choose some and ignore the others you need to apply criteria, which is not in the bible.
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    Open your eyes, use your brain, and Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth. And you may not believe me now, but I’m just trying to help you…A long time before the day that you die, you will no longer need imaginary friends when you find yourself afraid and alone, just call out to real persons. Just remember this.

    .
    Love
    .
    Perna de Pau

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  73. 73 - Random Pastafarian - Oct 13th, 2008

    The Bible is about being a loving person? Someone needs to read more of the Old Testament. More to the point, the main purpose of Pastafarianism is to mock not religion as a whole or even all of Christianity. We are mocking those who try to force their beliefs onto others and into places they don’t belong. We have nothing against people who simply believe and mind their own business. While we hope you will someday see the light, if you don’t bug me about how I’m going to hell, I won’t bug you about how you believe in fairy tales.

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  74. 74 - Joe Marinara - Oct 13th, 2008

    You forget how much religion and all its arbitrary precepts has imposed itself into public policy. An understanding of this is essential to understanding why this site is here.

    As for love being the way or the goal or both, well, that’s awesome. But I never needed a bible to tell me that.

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  75. 75 - Penne Pete - Oct 13th, 2008

    The Bible doesn’t have a single message. Like most holy books it has the wonderful ability to have whatever message you want. Hate homosexuals? There’s a bible for you. Hate Jews, same bible. Oppress women, same bible. Polygamist, same bible. Love your neighbour, same bible. Thing is most religions have used their doctrines and “holy writs” to get people to go along with whatever worldly plans they have. The Crusades made lots of money for the church. The inquisition and holocaust saw property taken from infidels and given to the faithful. Because of the merging of church and state in the middle east, political disagreements turn into disagreements in religious doctrine leading both sides to believe themselves holier than the other. It’s the mess religion causes.

    Love your god all you want. We don’t care as long as it’s kept out of our science classes and government policies. Also, a hypothetical question:

    If when you die you find yourself afraid and alone. Calling out so someone who doesn’t answer, will your whole life have been a lie?

    Some of us don’t need the threat of hellfire in order to be good people.

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  76. 76 - Fullback32 - Oct 13th, 2008

    “If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride? Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”

    Absoltely. And I would have realized I’ve had a lot of fun and my family loves me. I was probably at my unhappiest when I was a believer in your gad. The FSM has been good. Praise to his noodlyness! Arrggh. RAmen.

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  77. 77 - JorickHorn - Oct 13th, 2008

    No, I don’t think I’ll ever know the ‘truth’ as you say it. Unless you’re right, which I doubt. You see, if I’m right, then at the point I die, I’ll be far too busy being dead to find out the truth. I won’t be around, and so there’s nothing to know. It is a simple dispersal of energy.

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  78. 78 - lazlow - Oct 13th, 2008

    “I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person.”

    That doesn’t sound like the bible, unless it just went through some heavy editing.

    “Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier.”

    Then why don’t you just strive to be a “pure and loving person”? Why on earth do you need a god to do that? Or a bible for that matter. I’m pretty sure if you truly want to be a “pure and loving person” and it makes your life happier, you could do it in the name of Tickle-me-Elmo with a Radioshack pamphlet.

    “the day that you die, if you find yourself afraid and alone, just call out to Jesus.”

    Or don’t! Maybe I could call out to Poseidon? I mean he’s the freakin’ god of water! Water! I mean I like the beach and I like the ocean. I like to sit on the shore and look out on the ocean. I like to go boating. I mean Poseidon seems like a better choice to me. I’m pretty sure that when Jesus went fishing he offered some goods to Poseidon so that he could reap from the riches of the ocean, which Poseidon truly governs.

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  79. 79 - TTT - Oct 13th, 2008

    I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person. Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier. – yes ok im onnly taking a bit out of ur message, but why would you have to read the bible or believe in a god to be strive to be a pure and loving person. I dnt understand why people associate being kind and good to religious people.

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  80. 80 - ttyp00 - Oct 13th, 2008

    man i didn’t even read past the first sentence before i fell asleep.

    *SNORE*

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  81. 81 - Lucifer - Oct 13th, 2008

    Dear Carolyn: I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..
    Dr. George G. Ritchie, In Return from Tomorrow, he tells of his out-of-body experience, his meeting with Jesus Christ, and his travel with Christ through different dimensions of time and space. Did he explain why we have not seen his face in over 2000 years? Everybody is waiting for the big party. Remember, Armagedon, Revelations… Did he explain why the Bible is so full of shit.
    CULINARY DEPARTMENT
    “…Hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?” –Isaiah 36:12; also in II Kings 18:27.

    The lord commanded: “And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.” –Ezekiel 4:12.

    “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.” –Levitcus 26:29.

    “And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons, and of thy daughters which the LORD thy god hath given thee…” –Deuteronomy 28:53.

    “So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.” –2 Kings 6:29.

    No wonder Jesus does not have any time to come and save the world. He is a time traveler through different dimensions in space. WOW, you mean like Star Wars. That fits perfectly with the Jesus soap opera.

    Lucifer

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  82. 82 - Peg - Oct 13th, 2008

    And we can’t believe you have spent so much time pursuing what you consider to be your divine being. At least the Church of the FSm doesn’t run around imposing its beliefs on other people and damning them to “hell.” Oh, and people CAN be good without participating in organized religion. Honest. I even know some.

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  83. 83 - Iron Mike - Oct 13th, 2008

    Dream on…

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  84. 84 - neal - Oct 13th, 2008

    Chapter 6

    “Do you want one or two meatballs?” he yelled from the kitchen, hoping his voice would carry to the bedroom. “Two!” Came the reply.
    He carefully spooned the spaghetti into two bowls, placed two meatballs on top of each helping, sprinkled real grated Parmesian cheese (some things must be genuine), hit each with a spray of sweat flakes and headed back to the bedroom, one bowl in each hand with Ralphie, his 5 year old Golden Retriever following closely behind.
    Pirate Girl was on the bed, wearing a long t shirt that said “Lazy Little Bitch” on the front of it, nothing more. He handed her the bowl of spaghetti and managed to get on the bed with his own bowl. Ralphie, jumped up on the bed, wagging his tail and easing his way toward the spaghetti. A gentle nudge with a bare foot kept him at a distance. “You’ll get yours in a bit, once we get busy, Ralphie” Pirate Girl laughed and started in on the spaghetti, a perfect Friday night snack. Her real name was Eileen. Eileen Thomkins, and he, met her in a coffee shop on a street outside Belmont University in Nashville, on the night when the second Bahamma-McFeign presidential debate was taking place. She was wearing a shirt with a scull-and-crossbones on it, and was right in front of him in line so he started calling her “pirate girl“, and harassing her about her attire. She was forty-two years old, with long blond hair, iridescent blue eyes with large black pupils, flawless skin, a model’s body, and could have passed for twenty-five even in a well lit room. She was a MILF even if she never had children, and Nigel Henderson, a fifty -something financial analyst was hooked at first sight. He kept up the banter, put his arm around her, kept putting his hand on her shoulder, telling her he was wiping “Parrot poop” off her shoulder. She smiled, knowing how lame it was, but deciding it was worth going along with anyway. The click must have been audible from across the room because her girl friend looked up and smiled with her warmest “I’m not gonnna cock block” expression
    The rest was history, as they say, she went home with him, and they became “significant others” in the last few months.
    “What’s on?”
    “Barry Ling, he interviewing these guy who say the Rapture Christians are actually being kidnapped by space aliens to be used as sex slaves”
    “Well, you know those flying saucers are nothing but bordellos with gyroscopes”
    “Anyway, why are all the people who watch these shows diabetic men with erectile difficulties who need to check their credit report?”
    “ Yahoo, YaWoodra! I dunno, why do all the women on the channels you watch need to reconsider their birth control method and look into spray -on personal lubricants?”
    “Touche.”
    “Anything new and newsworthy?
    “Not really, Nigel what do you think’s gonna happen? Some people say it’s the second coming?”
    “Ever read ‘Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.’ by Jonothan Edwards?”
    “Not really, wasn’t he the vampire on ‘Dark Shadows?”
    “No, that was a different Jonothan Edwards. This one said that Jesus was coming at the end of the world,
    And he was gonna punish everyone who wasn’t going to heaven. He said Jesus would be this 900 foot
    Tall, pissed-off, merciless sob who would trample everyone underfoot. “
    “So he would be Jesus Kong?”
    “Or, maybe, Christzilla.”
    She laughed and leaned herself against him, “Christzilla, oh, that’s hilarious”
    “But, I don’t think being stomped to death by Jesus would be the worst, know what really gives me nightmares?”
    “What? “ She was still giggling.
    “Getting impaled on one of his toenails. Think about it, he probably hasn’t had a pedicure in 2000 years, those things gotta be nasty? And you wouldn’t die right away, he’d keep picking ’em up and putting ’em down, and taking you along for the ride. And their would probably be others impaled on the same nail with you, it’s be like a kabob.”
    They were finished with the spaghetti, laughing she said “Isn’t it about time for Ralphie to get some spaghetti in the Kitchen?”
    YAHOO, YAWOODRA!

    From the upcoming novel “Glad To Be Left Behind” by neal

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  85. 85 - Ruse - Oct 13th, 2008

    You don’t seem like a complete twit, so go on you for finding something that makes you happy. The point is, that your religion looks just as stupid to others as ours does to you.

    The basic message of all (most) religions isn’t bad. Compassion, justice, the basics of right and wrong are not bad principles. It’s the people you describe, those that are crazy, delusional, and use religion as a crutch that are the problem. Those that follow blindly because they were told to, or raised that way. They never sit down and think for themselves. Or, the hypocrites who only act proper for an hour or two on Sunday, but call themselves religious all week.

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  86. 86 - Landlubber - Oct 13th, 2008

    I can’t believe YOU spent so much time writing your post, and didn’t take 2 seconds to run spell check.

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  87. 87 - nick - Oct 13th, 2008

    Now this I like, thanx for the kind words but please understand that there are some people out who don’t think there is one Truth. And don’t make the same mistake that ´plenty of people who came here, we, or at least me, are not wanting to mock of religious people, this began as an effort to prevent other people to impose their believes to others, with the ridiculous excuse to called it science.

    Viva the AlTomighty

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  88. 88 - Alex - Oct 13th, 2008

    I am simply astonished that Carolyn is capable of writing in complete sentences with punctuation in all the right places.

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  89. 89 - Spanky the Pirate - Oct 13th, 2008

    “I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person.”

    Hrrrmmm…. which bible are you reading again? From what I have read of the bible, I thought the underlying message was kill anyone who doesn’t do what you say, when you say. If someone doesn’t believe what you want them to believe, make their life (and afterlife) hell.

    One of us must have missed something.

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  90. 90 - Vermicelli - Oct 13th, 2008

    One need not subscribe to irrational ancient myths to to be a decent and loving person. Especially when when hypocrisy in the form of bigotry, hate and distorting the teachings of their prophet runs rampant among those that do.

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  91. 91 - RiTarDid - Oct 13th, 2008

    your pure and loving bible would have you murder your homosexual friends….sounds like love to me.
    may you be touched where the sun doesn’t shine by his noodly appendage.

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  92. 92 - CindyB - Oct 13th, 2008

    I think your post proves you are NOT a “pure and loving person.” Plus, God apparently did not bless you with a sense of humor. Bless your little heart!

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  93. 93 - mv - Oct 13th, 2008

    Love? Slavery? Rape? Stoning? Murder? Yeah sounds like a wholesome book.

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  94. 94 - Steve - Oct 13th, 2008

    I’ll just make one point. The rest can be dealt with by others.

    You say that you are not using your religion as a crutch and yet at the end of your message you also say

    ‘…the day that you die, if you find yourself afraid and alone, just call out to Jesus.’

    Sounds to me like you are afraid of death and that because your religion offers an afterlife it means that you don’t need to be. If that is not a ‘crutch’ I don’t know what is.

    Sorry I couldn’t be more sarcastic. For once, that was quite a nicely written little plea.

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  95. 95 - Michael Riley - Oct 14th, 2008

    You sound like my mum.
    Some things don’t have to make sense for you to believe in them?
    Religion-is-stupid in a nutshell. That’s what that says to me.

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  96. 96 - LittleAnimal - Oct 14th, 2008

    There’s not a rational comment in sight in your post.
    1.Why can’t you be a pure and loving person anyway?
    2.Why is your truth the right one?
    3.Delusional.
    4.Check out Robert A. Monroe’s less biased trilogy on out of body experiences.

    Love,
    LA

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  97. 97 - Fish - Oct 14th, 2008

    I just came across this website, though I was already aware of the theory after its initial presentation in 2005. It is sad to see the confusion people have about this. It is not so much a mockery of religion (e.g. Christianity), but of the blurred lines between church and state. One of the great freedoms we enjoy in this country is freedom of religion. While it is the belief of many Christians, I personally do not agree we need shove our beliefs down the throats of the youth through a state sponsored educational system. If we don’t like it, send your kids to a Christian school. Perhaps teach your children at home the different perspectives and theories, further allowing them to think critically and look at situations from different angles.

    This is a mockery of faith – it’s a mockery of the system. If we stand up and cheer for our democracy, pressing to spread it through out the world, then we sure better be able to back it up at home and allow people the freedoms which we supposedly hold so high.

    Just because we don’t agree with people on their faith doesn’t negate their right to believe it.

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  98. 98 - tris - Oct 14th, 2008

    Oh my FSM!!! Save this site!! I’m starting to get worried now! Have the forces of darkness finally succeeded in their evil intent of freezing this site?? Is this the long night of the soul?? Have they crucified the FSM?? Will He finally rise again and show them his divine power and make them finally believe and see the light of his ineffable divinity and delicious noodliness!
    I “await moderation” in a state of cosmic anxiety and dread, but the hope of His triumph still pervades my trembling soul…..
    Let us pray (I know I’m repeating myself, but that’s what prayers are all about, aint it?):
    Our monster so great who art in the plate
    Hallowed be thy scrummy yummy juicy sauces
    Thy kingdom come, some day, but not too late:
    Before we move onto our second courses!
    Give us this day our daily pasta
    And forgive us if we sometimes overcook it
    As we forgive them who eat it much faster
    (The important thing is not to overlook it!)
    And lead us not into false consummation
    Of dire dodgy dishes: nasty noodles or Ramen
    For thine is the source of the saucy sensation
    Forever and ever, spaghetti monster amen!

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  99. 99 - billy wright - Oct 14th, 2008

    Like any other pastafarian, I’m all for joy and happiness – so it doesn’t bother me at all (nor would it bother many other pastafarians) if it makes you feel happy and content to beleive in whatever religion you beleive in (I’m guessing christianity). However it isn’t right of you to come to the home website of pastafarianism; the home website of a peaceful, friendly religion, and then ask as all to question whether our lives have been unhappy and filled with regret and bad emotions because of the “FSM thing” we believe in.
    The concluding point of your post was another example of the ‘You’re wrong, I’m right’ statement. Although your way of saying it isn’t as capitalised, incorrectly spelt and swear word abundant as other hate-mailers’ approach, it still shows what you have in common with all the hate-mailers who aren’t as consirned with ‘love’ as you are: you assume that what you believe in must be right simply because you believe in it, you think that anyone else who thinks different to you is wrong and silly, and then you either try to convert them or you get angry at them or you ignore/dismiss anything they have to say.

    p.s. No, I’m not going to “check out George G, Ritchie’s Return From Tomorrow”… Whatever that is.

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  100. 100 - Jochem Atteveld - Oct 14th, 2008

    “I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person. Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier.”

    Hey, that’s funny… Iremember a nice guy named Joshua in the bible. I believe it had something to do with genocide…

    “If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride? Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”

    I would be very proud to see a slideshow of my life. Funnily enough, it’s not only religious people who are good…

    Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth. And you may not believe me now, but I’m just trying to help you…the day that you die, if you find yourself afraid and alone, just call out to the Flying Spagghetti monster. Just remember this.

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  101. 101 - Rain - Oct 14th, 2008

    Apparently Jesus is planning on forgiving us all, anyway, so I’ll just leave it up to him. Not you. Thanks, though, you do a wicked Jesus, impression.

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  102. 102 - Barelysane - Oct 14th, 2008

    Hi Carolyn

    Thank you for the unusually articulate comment (compared to the usual rants). Obviously I can’t speak for anyone else on this site, and while i do have an underlying intense dislike of religion, I have an absolute hatred of the dogma that all too frequently accompanies it, but I never preach at others on the subject unless invited to. Yes, I agree that the underlying message of the new testament is to practice love and understanding for your fellow man. That message can be and indeed has been corrupted so many times to cause so much suffering. Hence my problem with organised religion.
    I attempt every day to live my life with compassion and understanding (with periodic tough love), not out of any religious conviction, but because it feels like the right thing to do and is how I would like others to treat me (plus on a selfish level, I like the feeling of helping someone).
    Like everyone else, my life thus far has been a mix of everything between extreme joy and hideous despair both alone and with friends/relatives, and I wouldn’t change a minute of it. It’s made me the person I am today, and to answer your question, I’m always happy when I look in the mirror.
    Yes, one day I’ll realise my time is up and know that all I have to look forward to is oblivion. Right now that scares me (I’m only 34!), I’ve a lot of living left to do. But when my time comes I hope I’ll be wise enough to accept the inevitable and be able to look back on my life and say “yes, I’ve lived”.

    In short, my life doesn’t need or want “The Truth”, I have no use for “God” or “Jesus”. I enjoy visiting this website because it makes fun over some of the more outrageous things the Christian fundamentalists try to do through the application of parody and satire rather than personal attack. Always brightens my day.

    Barelysane

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  103. 103 - Greybeard & Polly - Oct 14th, 2008

    Carolyn – I can’t believe you have spent so much time being sarcastic about how stupid you think faith in the FSM is. People who have faith are not crazy, dillusional, or using Pastafarianism as a crutch. I’ve heard it all. I don’t understand why people like you make fun of the single concept that believing in his holy noodliness comes down to–love. That’s all it’s really about. Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time. I feel bad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this God thing and are surrounded by people who agree with you. Some things don’t have to make sense to you to be true. Besides, we too have a book, and also a graph!
    Greybeard

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  104. 104 - Dusty - Oct 14th, 2008

    This doesn’t really count as HATE-mail, does it? I like it better when they swear at us. And what’s with the almost perfect spelling and punctuation?

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  105. 105 - ET, the Extra Terrestrial - Oct 14th, 2008

    Gee, I hope I’m not dillusional, that would really put me in a pickle.

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  106. 106 - Nangleator - Oct 14th, 2008

    >I can’t believe … how stupid you think faith in God is.
    .
    Ooh, projecting your doubts? Show us where this site says faith in god is stupid.
    .
    >…the single concept that believing in God comes down to–love.
    >That’s all it’s really about.
    .
    Love? Really? Can you explain all the hatred, torture, killing and wars that have resulted from that love? Is this love you mention a love for pain and death? Is it a love of evil?
    .
    >I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has
    >a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person.
    .
    Sounds like a good plan. Christians should try to follow a plan like that. Perhaps all the Christians who come to post on this site from now on can demonstrate what it’s like to be a pure and loving person. I eagerly await the demonstrations, even though us Pastafarians will be put to shame!
    .
    (Hint: You aren’t being pure if you demand that strangers engage in anal sex. With or without boating equipment.)

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  107. 107 - Fred Nurke - Oct 14th, 2008

    hahaha “dillusional”, is that a delusional dillhole, or somebody having psychotic dreams about pickles?

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  108. 108 - JoshM - Oct 14th, 2008

    Well your view of the Bible is one of many but unfortunately for you, this will never sway my vote on this. I was intrigued with your message up until the end where you attempted to convert. That is what pisses me off. Stop trying to convert everyone! We don’t care what you believe in and neither should you! I myself joined this religion because I knew deep down that all the other ones were wrong. I know this one doesn’t have the right answer either but It’s better then the rest of em. I also joined because I wanted to get away from the other religions corruption. No one can say that there has never been a religion that has never undergone corruption, but this FSMism has the best track record so far. You may be one of the “good” christians, but there are too many people out there that just use religion as a means of getting what they want.

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  109. 109 - Redbeard - Oct 14th, 2008

    Carolyn, You obviously haven’t spent much time actually reading the bible, because that’s not what it says at all, especially the old testament. It’s horrible really, and if you have a single ounce of sense in your head (i.e you’re not delusional), you’d run screaming from the sight of it.

    Just as a thought experiment, imagine a rational person, living today, in the context of all the technological advances to date, who’s never, ever heard of religion, who’s never even imagined the possibility of God, picking up the bible for the first time and attempting to read it. Can you imagine his reaction? “Lot gave up his daughters to be raped?!?” “Jesus walked on water and came back from the dead?!?” “An invisible bearded gentleman in the sky is reading my mind?!?” “What the hell?!?” He might think it was a collection of short stories, maybe magic stories like Harry Potter, only poorly written and rather violent, but it would never occur to him in his wildest dreams to think of it as the truth.

    But that’s not why I spend so much time mocking religion. To put it in perspective, think of the millions and millions of dollars spent on plays and television and sporting events. It’s mind-boggling, really, how much time and effort is spent on entertainment, and here on this website, it’s all FREE! And there’s an apparently inexhaustible supply of people who write letters for our reading and commenting pleasure! So I don’t think it’s time wasted; I just think of all the money I’m saving by not watching TV.

    Thanks for your concern and Ramen!

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  110. 110 - baron_bloodbath - Oct 14th, 2008

    Carolyn,

    I respect and admire your willingness to engage in meaningful, religious discourse. Our Bible and yours have the same goals–to be a loving person. Even now, many use religious texts as propaganda to fuel discrimination and hate. As Pastafarians, we simply propose that there is another way to enlightenment without the irrational or convoluted dogmatic messages. Further, I postulate that your idea of God and my idea of God do not have to be the same. Billions of people live on this planet, all with differing religious ideologies. I’ve done things that I’m not proud of, but I can say I’ve lived a good life if I had to watch a slideshow of it. The core doctrines of FSMism are based on tolerance, except for Ninjas, who are asking for trouble anyway. Thank you for sharing your beliefs, Carolyn-they will become a valued contribution.

    Arrrgh.

    Cap’n Jack

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  111. 111 - Pirate 63569 - Oct 14th, 2008

    I’m glad you found a book to guide you, but what about the contradictions and commandments to kill? not very loving

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  112. 112 - galderon - Oct 14th, 2008

    You’ve heard it all, but listened to nothing. Congrats! Your religious brainwashing worked!

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  113. 113 - Spector567 - Oct 14th, 2008

    I can’t believe you spent so much time writing the above and couldn’t read the first line saying START HERE. Had you don that you would have written something intelligent and not insulting to everyone here. Now sadly you will probally be insulted in return for another 40 posts.

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  114. 114 - Lord Shplane - Oct 14th, 2008

    Hey so the Inquisition, Crusades, and Salem witch trials were about love?

    Damn, God must be into some hardcore S&M.

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  115. 115 - Nibos - Oct 14th, 2008

    Why do they always tell us to call out or seek Jesus.

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  116. 116 - Random Pastafarian - Oct 14th, 2008

    I can’t believe that you need the threat of eternal damnation to force you to follow those ideals. As can be seen by perusing the sight just a little, those of us in the Church of FSM are just as compassionate as most cristians, and specifically more so in certain cases, such as the counter-protest against religious hate monger Fred Phelps. Being happy with others is as simple as enjoying the time we have together, and religion is not a necessary part of this. If you find that you are incapable of performing good in this world without the influence of your religion and all the illogical and contradictory baggage that goes along with it, I pity you. If you are one of the those who merely takes the message of love and rejects the rest, I would applaud you. The fact is that many religions, most notably christianity actually cause more strife than good, and The church of FSM has yet to cause any on a noticeable scale.

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  117. 117 - Awakened - Oct 14th, 2008

    What I don’t think you realize that you use God as reasoning for something unnecessary. You can be a kind and loving person without believing in God, even your Bible will tell you that. And I feel very passionate about the idea behind the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I feel very passionate that our world should be freed from ignorance and blind acceptance. So realize your message can work for both sides, and don’t let words like atheism scare you. I so hate how that word makes people judge you.

    P.S. Check out “The God Delusion” or anything actually, by Richard Dawkins.

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  118. 118 - m610 - Oct 15th, 2008

    Carolyn – “People who have faith are not crazy, dillusional, or using religion as a crutch.” I’m afraid they are, but maybe not crazy as in damaged brains and stuff, but crazy because they were taught and unfortunately still believe that crazy Bible stuff. Bad learning makes for people doing crazy things, like trying to hasten the end of the world. That sure sounds crazy to me.

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  119. 119 - Raven - Oct 15th, 2008

    Yes. Pure and loving. That’s why when the crusaders rode to slaughter innocent muslims, their war cry was “God wills it!”
    Christianity has fueled wars and slaughter for centuries, and though that’s changed now, the enourmous amount of resentment and hate towards parts of our society is incredible.
    You people simply take yourselves too seriously. This is, and was creaed to be, a joke. If you don’t like it, no-one is forcing you to read what we have to say.

    On another note, to al those pastafarians out there, I suggest a novel by Terry Goodkind called “The sword of Truth.” Symbolisim at its best.

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  120. 120 - Devout Heathen - Oct 15th, 2008

    Well, let’s not trot out the Crusaders all the time… Look at Indonesia. Christians there are killing lots of Muslims because they are obviously evil. You can tell by the way they are killing Christians, with the lame excuse that Christians have been killing Muslims. For killing Christian dogs.

    Or what the North Irish tend to call “The Troubles”. That’s an all-Christian party, only some Christians are differently Christian from others, which is obviously Bad and Wrong and needs to be corrected by blowing up their pubs. Thank the FSM that at least in Northern Ireland, they are coming to their senses.

    Or, to hop over to another continent, the various priests of the Aztecs, who claimed that what their god really needed was for other people to have their heart cut out, and shown to them before they died.

    Now I’m not saying that the religious types *started* all that, but religion sure is a wonderful catalyst for turning a minor scuffle into a bloody war.

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  121. 121 - yo ho ho - Oct 15th, 2008

    Hey, crusading Xians, Jews & Muslims: Yer all a bunch of liars unless you go out and stone your wives that stray an inch, or set your sons on fire (or at least a goat or two). Read your holy bubble and OBEY!
    Remember your god loves you and yr gonna burn in hell. And sex is nasty dirty disgusting and you should save it for the one you love.

    Alternatively, you could get yourself some peace, friendliness, fun, kindness, logic and pastafarianism. Pasta be upon you.

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  122. 122 - Meisha - Oct 15th, 2008

    What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it’s all about?

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  123. 123 - FettucciniFreak - Oct 15th, 2008

    You’re boring

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  124. 124 - neal - Oct 15th, 2008

    In order to become “dillusional” don’t you need to eat pickles laced with LSD?

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  125. 125 - Fogey - Oct 15th, 2008

    Carolyn, I’m a bit concerned about your desire to be “pure and loving”. I don’t have a problem with the loving bit, but what is the pure bit about? Is it to do with not eating certain foods, or coming into contact with unclean people? Or could it possibly be to do with extramarital sex? As you’re xian rather than muslim, jewish or hindu it seems more likely to be sex.

    Actually, it’s not dirty. People who do it aren’t “impure” any more than people who don’t do it are “pure”. Anymore than you can become impure by eating pork or touching someone else.

    Pure and loving sounds like an oxymoron to me.

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  126. 126 - tris - Oct 15th, 2008

    Hello PYRETTE
    Wow, that’s kind of eerie! You said (Post#58 – October 12th):
    “I can’t believe you have spent so much time writing a letter about how stupid you think faith in The Flying Spaghetti Monster is. I don’t understand why people like you can’t understand the single concept that believing in the FSM comes down to – Fun. That’s all it’s really about. Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is a whole lot of fun. I feel bad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this Christianity thing and are surrounded by people who agree with you.”
    And I said (Post#8 – October 12th)
    “I can’t believe you have spent so much time implying how stupid you think faith in the Spaghetti Monster is… I don’t understand why so many people can’t understand the single concept that believing in the Spaghetti Monster is FUN. That’s all it’s really about. Criticising something we people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time my dear Carolyn! I feel a bit sad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this God obsession thing and are (probably) surrounded by people who believe the same stuff and don’t give you a chance to explore any other ideas.”
    Talk about synchronicity! I guess we were on the same wavelength at the same time…

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  127. 127 - Zinc Alloy - Oct 15th, 2008

    What amazes me is there are still people in the 21st Century who actually believe in this superstitious, hocus pocus, god nonsense.

    Your Christian god is about as real as fortune telling, tarot cards, reading tea-leaves, astrology and the Loch Ness Monster. Without the fun.

    And to think these people are allowed to vote. :-/

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  128. 128 - cjames - Oct 15th, 2008

    “single concept that believing in God comes down to–love.”

    I love fictional characters too, but that doesn’t make them real.

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  129. 129 - flyingspaghettiapostle - Oct 15th, 2008

    Save me jebus

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  130. 130 - thou shalt not worship penne - Oct 16th, 2008

    the bible says i should publicly stone my children to death if they are rude.

    but i should follow this, because really, the bible is teaching me to become a better and more loving person.

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  131. 131 - Lori - Oct 16th, 2008

    You seem to have missed the point of this site entirely.

    I see nothing here which says that your believing in Jesus or the bible is crazy, delusional, or a crutch. It is merely trying to point out that there are lots of ways to believe, and all ways should be respected. One flavor in particular should not be taught in schools as the “right” one.
    It is that very disrespect which is the basis of this website. And to do it with humor is brilliant, in my opinion. Apparently thousands of others agree, and support this attempt to enlighten those who would thrust their personal “god” upon others.
    Evolution is science. Belief in god, Intelligent Design included, is hearsay. The bible doesn’t prove a thing – it’s just a book. A nice bunch of stories written by human beings. For those who say they believe every word of the bible, I would say If you want credibility, you had better be using ALL of its content, including not wearing more than one fiber in your clothing, and stoning your wife to death for adultery. Picking and choosing the parts you want to believe is just lame.

    I see no evidence of this site not believing in love. If fact, I think that may be its single most important message. Open your eyes, open your brain.

    PS
    Isn’t evolution a miracle in itself?

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  132. 132 - Marcus Aurelius - Oct 16th, 2008

    The old testament wasn’t loving and nice and dispensing happiness and magic so much as it advocated the brutal and violent death of people who you don’t agree with. And I do feel pride when I look at my life. Maybe a few twinges of regret that I didn’t join up with the fsm sooner, but that is soon forgotten in a lake of pasta and strippers.

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  133. 133 - TheFewTheProudTheMarinara - Oct 17th, 2008

    Yeah, religion is all about love. We all should have gone to Afghanistan a few years ago when the Taliban ran it so we could feel the love. Or be stoned to death – one or the other.

    Thing is, when religion gains political power (like ID taught in schools as fact), that’s when science and freedom grind to a halt.

    When I die I don’t figure on calling out to anyone, and that’s the truth. I’d rather live with that inconvenient truth than a comfortable lie.

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  134. 134 - V - Oct 17th, 2008

    carolyn, you really do need to re-read the bible every once in a while. and not just the parts that make you feel all warm and fuzzy. it’s not all about love; it’s about control. read exodus. read leviticus. remember the travails of job, the poor slob who god allowed satan to torture on a bet (!) that he would not renounce his faith in his god. job’s wife was the one with the brains there; not job. she saw that god was essentially a bad “person” for allowing, nay encouraging, this nastiness to occur.

    the bible is all about metaphor and codifying morality in ancient societies. it was written by a bunch of control freaks and its influence was expanded by legions of barely literate scribes who made thousands of changes to the texts to match the times and the messages the leaders wanted out there.

    please also read carefully the introduction to our faith. you will recognize that the FSM would never do this to anyone, even someone, such as yourself, denies his existence. where your god’s earthly representatives regularly threaten life and limb and beyond, ours just wanna have fun. i know which one i’m choosing…..

    may you be touched by his noodly appendage….soon

    V

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  135. 135 - Mary - Oct 19th, 2008

    Personaly. I gave up on beliving in God and I don’t like the fact how christians, or some of them, push there religion on others. And I’m not only singling out the christians but I’m just saying that from the insane ones I’ve met. I really do hope you change your ways and be touched by the FSM noodly appendage. I don’t know much about the FSM but what I do know I seem to like thus far. I’m still researching and reading. Hopefully I make him proud.

    Ramen.

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  136. 136 - Shani - Oct 19th, 2008

    I’m with Lori on this. Carolynn misses the entire point of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. As the letter to the school board is trying to show, just because thousands or millions of people have FAITH in something, it does not mean it is SCIENCE and should therefore be taught to children in schools. She does not have to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster any more than I have to believe in Jesus, but neither should be considered on the same level as evolution. That, as I see it, is the real lesson of the almighty FSM.

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  137. 137 - david sharpe - Oct 20th, 2008

    Just come across this, all it does is reinforce my belief, that we as human beings will never find peace, its all so pointless, does any person with a little savvy expect this to change anything, this kind of approach only succeeds on one level, and thats to get peoples backs up, and that does nobody any good.
    Change peoples minds, you must be having a laugh, another layer of animosity has been created.
    I won’t be back, its all rather sad to be honest. peace to all

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  138. 138 - J.S. - Oct 20th, 2008

    That’s exactly what the Bible talks about: unconditional love. No wait, that isn’t what the Bible says. It says that there is only one path to God: Jesus. The historical figure. All who decide that worshipping him isn’t for them, all who haven’t lived long enough to hear his gospel, all who find different ways to celebrate God’s glory, all of those go to Hell. Fear God, worship Jesus, and be aware that my way is the ONLY way. Every other way has no hope, and that includes every other religion and philosophy that advocates peace, love, and nonviolence.

    When you are in heaven, and you find that every person who has tried to be righteous, but did not fit the criteria of the Bible by deciding that Jesus wasn’t God in the flesh, is suffering eternally, by God’s great creed of eternal love and caring, would you really feel a sense of love for God? You had better celebrate, your personal God did it for you. You won’t have to worry about scientists cause they are probably doomed. You won’t have to worry about the diversity of thought found here on Earth because everyone who disagrees with Jesus won’t be there; and you certainly won’t have to worry about changing diapers, because unbaptized infants who die early haven’t ever heard the gospel. Never forget, there is no love more perfect than Jesus. It’s not like we could imagine a more tolerant ending for everyone who is different.

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  139. 139 - Roland - Oct 20th, 2008

    Dear Carolyn,
    did you really read the Bible properly, or are you Catholic and just listen to whatever your priest is telling you ?
    The only passage about love is the ‘Golden Rule’ in Jesus teaching in the ‘sermon on the mount’, all the rest is mainly misogynic, murderous, genocidal incitement to violence and slavery.
    From a sadistic God betting with the devil about poor Job,
    persons like Lot who offered his own two virgin daughters for gang rape is considered as the only one worth of saving,
    Joshua’s raping, destruction and genocide spree of the ancient Judean population,
    God’s killing advise for all kind of sins in Leviticus,
    up to the stoning to death advise for collecting firewood on a weekend etc.. .
    Someone had counted the number of murders committed in the Bible : Satan = 10,God more than 2.2 million !! And this without the great flood to wipe out the entire fauna and flora because God’s frustration with his own ‘perfect creation in his own image’ of the homo sapiens species.
    So where is your “it is all about love” and to make one’s life happier ? It’s definitely not your Christianity or Islam !
    Abrahamic religions are sin obsessed misery cults, hoping just for ones death and a better afterlife, however the church of FSM is the religion of peace and fun here and now.

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  140. 140 - kathryn - Oct 24th, 2008

    in response to J.S., (just to clarify), God gives us unconditional love in that he loves us no matter what sins we do. He may not be able to MAKE you believe anything, but he will love you nonetheless. and the bible says that heaven will be full of rejoicing-no suffering, no pain, no regret.

    In response to Roland, Satan doesnt kill, he turns you from God. If God didnt have his hands in our lives at all, we wouldnt be dead, we would be suffering. As for bad biblical actions, were not perfect, and no one who has studied the Word will say that even the disciples were perfect- Peter even denied Christ 3 times. but we are forgiven by God. About the Love thing, one example is “…and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave up himself for us.” Ephesians 5:2. Yes, i have read the Bible properly-every night. Also, Christianity and Islam have a few similarities, but Islam (to my knowledge-im not an expert on it) arent necessarily about having relationship with God as much as doing good deeds and following the Qur’an.

    Also, i am a christian, and i feel like you are mocking what i believe. you can believe the things you like, but everything ive seen about this religion has made fun of Christianity. These are my beliefs, and i fully expect you to flame them. thats fine, but dont think that we are the only offenders, please. i dont want to fight, but i dont want to feel like the world is sinking even lower than it already is due to a plate of spaghetti.

    Just for the record, “Although they claim to be wise, they have became fools and exchange the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles”(..and food, now)Romans 1:22-23

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  141. 141 - Emm - Oct 28th, 2008

    To Dear Carolyn

    I can’t believe you spent all that time writing that… if you dont like it then ignore it. BTW

    “Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth. And you may not believe me now, but I’m just trying to help you…the day that you die, if you find yourself afraid and alone, just call out to Jesus. Just remember this.”

    JESUS IS DEAD!!!

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  142. 142 - michael - Oct 28th, 2008

    then follow what you believe, being pure and loving and all, but don’t follow some unbased claim that you will never be able to support…
    If all god is is love then believe in love not “god” which can mean whatever you want it to be. and If you’re really trying to be a “pure and loving person” respect what other people have to say and don’t tell people that your religion is the only way. Way to be.

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  143. 143 - noodleguy - Oct 28th, 2008

    “God gives us unconditional love in that he loves us no matter what sins we do.”

    Except gay people! They’ll burn in HELL! Oh, and Jews, and Muslims, and Atheists, and ummm…Anyone who disagrees with us! Yeah!

    “Also, i am a christian, and i feel like you are mocking what i believe.”

    It took you a while to figure that one out.

    “Also, Christianity and Islam have a few similarities, but Islam (to my knowledge-im not an expert on it) arent necessarily about having relationship with God as much as doing good deeds and following the Qur’an.”

    It is fairly obvious that you have no understanding of Islam whatsoever.

    Just for the record:
    “Although they claim to be wise, they have became fools and exchange the glory of the immortal Flying Spaghetti Monster for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles, for lo, their false and Made-Up Gods are much less Creative then his Greatness”

    I will do this to any Bible quote you throw at me

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  144. 144 - Blaze8902 - Nov 5th, 2008

    “I can’t believe you spent all that time writing that… if you dont like it then ignore it.”

    they are Christian, that should work fine with them. Or they could try to kill us all, that is the other way Christians have solved their problems before. Then the Internet was invented. Can’t kill us over the interwebs can you?! Didn’t think so.

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  145. 145 - stogoe - Nov 7th, 2008

    I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person.
    You…haven’t actually read that Bible of yours, have you?
    It’s okay, we’re not upset. It happens to a lot of people.

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  146. 146 - Eaver - Nov 29th, 2008

    I just love how they all miss the point that we aren’t even really mocking it. We’re mocking how seriously they apply it to everything, and try to force it on others. God can be a bitch sometimes, but Flying Spaghetti Monster is pretty lax.

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  147. 147 - Earthbreaker - Dec 2nd, 2008

    See I like this kind of Christian, they’re just trying to be nice :)

    But they have missed the point, the FSM was originally to have a dig at children being force-fed intelligent design…and due to the crazed reactions of religious people, a lot of people have just started having fun!

    It’s like teasing someone, and not stopping because they react so hilariously!

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  148. 148 - kevin - Dec 3rd, 2008

    fuck you fsm believers. go to hell and then realize the shit.

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  149. 149 - Can You Beleive Some People? - Dec 3rd, 2008

    I shall not mock you, for that is not the point of this website. I actually think that what you wrote was quite beautiful. The problem is that you DON’T UNDERSTAND. You say you have heard it all. Well, have you realized that some of us aren’t making fun of YOU. (there are those who are, and they just don’t get it either, sorry for that). Anyway, I am not insulting your religion, I am merely looking at the flaws of ALL religion. I am happy, though I have no faith. I am not an atheist, nor am I any other religion or faith (although atheism isn’t a faith). It’s hard to comprehend, but I currently have no faith, and rather than completely ignoring religion, I have plunged head first into it, exploring every angle on it. I CAN look back on my life and find joy, I do not need a god for that. Remember, I do not mock your religion, but rather analyze them all.

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  150. 150 - Dan - Dec 4th, 2008

    Kevin (#148), thanks for putting the ‘Fun’ and ‘mentalist’ into ‘fundamentalist’. I’m laughing at your mental dellusions, not with them.

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  151. 151 - Noodlicious - Dec 4th, 2008

    Aww..kevin @148 needs a hug. Sending a big Noodley group hug out to you Kev.

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  152. 152 - Ninj - Dec 4th, 2008

    Some things don’t have to make sense to you to be true.
    -I think that it’s time for someone to start heeding their own advice.

    I believe in what the Bible offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person.
    -Then apparently pure and loving people go out and fight wars over who has the better invisible friend.

    Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth.
    -We already know the truth, and it is the FSM.

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  153. 153 - Franko - Dec 4th, 2008

    Had a few minutes and couldn’t resist untangling the “George G(comma) Ritchie’s Return,” etc., business. Here’s what’s on Amazon: “From the Back Cover,
    “One man’s astonishing walk through the doorway of death When a young soldier named George Ritchie landed in an Army hospital with pneumonia, he had no idea of the uncharted journey he was about to take. Days later, barely comprehending his own death, he stepped out of the physical world and entered eternity. In this riveting and detailed story, Ritchie describes a series of “worlds” he visited–some hellish in their separation from life, some glorious in their heavenly brilliance. But overshadowing all was his longing to stay in the blazing presence of Jesus. Stunning and memorable descriptions make this one of the most amazing accounts of life after death ever written. This glimpse into the realm beyond can change forever your understanding of the world beyond our own. George G. Ritchie has served as president of the Richmond Academy of General Practice; chairman of the Department of Psychiatry of Towers Hospital; and founder and president of the Universal Youth Corps, Inc. He lives in Virginia.”
    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_G._Ritchie
    What FUN His Noodliness constantly provides!

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  154. 154 - Zack882 - Dec 10th, 2008

    You know it’s funny. We think the same thing about you.

    Also: I’m sure you would like to think your full of love. That’s why you love everyone into war right? Because that’s not hypocritical at all

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  155. 155 - someguy - Dec 17th, 2008

    “Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”

    Are you saying that bobby never has fun without making fun of religion? I don’t want to make assumptions, ut he probably has a life other than this.

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  156. 156 - Grated Cheese - Jan 10th, 2009

    Carolyn,

    Kindness and empathy are not trademarks of Christianity. Or are you suggesting atheists can’t feel love?

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  157. 157 - ObscurePasta - Jan 19th, 2009

    You know whats funniest about this, the way its signed love Carolyn, considering the content its practically schizophrenic to say love at the end o.O
    Carolyn:

    I can’t believe you have spent so much time being sarcastic about how stupid you think faith in The Flying Spaghetti Monster is. People who have faith are not crazy, dillusional, or using religion as a crutch. I’ve heard it all. I don’t understand why people like you make fun of the single concept that believing in The Flying Spaghetti Monster comes down to–love. That’s all it’s really about. Making a mockery of something people feel passionate about is kind of a waste of time. I feel bad that you have gotten yourself so deep into this God thing and are surrounded by people who agree with you. Some things don’t have to make sense to you to be true.

    I believe in what the FSM offers me because it all has a single underlying message: to be a pure and loving person and to live life to the full and eat spaghetti. Although I’m not always, I want to strive to be…and this makes my life happier.

    If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride? Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on subtly insulting others who do not share your faith?

    Someday you will come to a point where you’ll know the Truth. And you may not believe me now, but I’m just trying to help you…the day that you die, if you find yourself afraid and alone, you will realize that there is no god, and that your hope of the afterlife has been crushed.

    Love, Obscure Pasta
    RAmen

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  158. 158 - MAN - Feb 3rd, 2009

    Well, I made a pretty funny fart joke in grade four once. I AM PROUD.

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  159. 159 - Anon - Feb 10th, 2009

    Have you read your bible?
    It tells you to take slaves from neighboring states and treat those that the big G doesn’t like as less than vermin.
    If you’ve got a skin disease, it says that you should get shut out by your society.
    ._.;
    Very pure and loving. Mhm.

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  160. 160 - fluffy - Feb 12th, 2009

    “If you were to see a slideshow of your entire life, would you truly feel pride? Would you see yourself with images of sharing positive and happy emotion with others that isn’t based on making fun of Religion?”

    Pride? Hell yeah! especially that fun trick I just mastered on my board the other day. I’ve been trying to figure it out for weeks, and then I just had it. I was going off the stairs and tried it, for the hell of it, you know, and it WORKED. I was so happy! I got, what, ten hi-fives.

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  161. 161 - Blibbly-blob - Feb 16th, 2009

    What a nice letter. Probably the most sane of the lot.. I guess following the moral messages within the Bible, such as being “pure and loving” is a good idea. However, it is obviously possible to not be religious and to live by similar morals.
    Along with moral guidelines, Religious texts often have many conflicting messages within them. This can lead to other more sinister beliefs and practises within religion.
    All those “afraid and alone” people who resort to religion for comfort and hope are effectively being decieved – because it isn’t real. I know humans generally need faith of some kind – I just think i’d rather not.

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  162. 162 - FSM Follower - Feb 18th, 2009

    Ugh, NO I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE A SLIDESHOW OF MY LIFE.

    I look fat >.

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An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design, The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is neither too elaborate nor too spoofy to succeed in nailing the fallacies of ID. It's even wackier than Jonathan Swift's suggestion that the Irish eat their children as a way to keep them from being a burden, and it may offend just as many people, but Henderson, described elsewhere as a 25-year-old "out-of-work physics major," puts satire to the same serious use that Swift did. Oh, yes, it is very funny. -- Scientific American




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